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Thousands Rally to Resist Occupy Portland Evictions

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 13, 2011, 2:04 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

10,000 filled the areas around the Occupy Portland encampments last night as the deadline approached for eviction. 12:01 am came and went but the cops could do nothing: too many supporters blocked their path. It was peaceful.

The cops waited it out and are clearing out the Chapman and Lownsdale Park camps this morning, tearing down the remaining tents. There is a General Assembly meeting at Pioneer Square at noon today. Occupy Portland will continue. The whole world is watching!

http://occupyportland.org/

#opdx #occupyportland

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[-] 7 points by stanchaz (36) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

Our emperors have no clothes. Our emperors have no shame. These governors, mayors, city councils, police chiefs and street cops of America need to realize that it is NOT UP TO THEM whether or not Americans peaceably gather , protest, discuss, or demonstrate. It's up to a document called the US CONSTITUTION. Zuccotti Park is no longer just  a place - Zuccotti Park is everywhere. You can beat us and arrest us and tear-gas us, you can try to "permit" us to death....but you can't kill an idea. You can't keep down a people’s hopes and dreams for a better life.....a life with dignity and freedom....for us, and for our kids. More power to Occupy Wall Street, as it spreads to every town and city. Because OWS is us, and for us, and by us. It comes up from the grassroots, and it lifts us up in turn. With OWS America has found it’s voice, and that voice demands fairness and justice - for ALL. This land IS our land! AND WE WANT IT BACK! We want our LIVES back! We want our FUTURE back! But it’s much more than just words.... it’s much more than just politics.... it’s your LIFE, and how you want to live it. So why not take some time, find a quiet place somewhere, and consider this: Each of us has only one brief life....one chance....one roll of the dice....and many choices. The time has come to choose....to risk...and to act. If not now...then when? If not you, then....who? You DO have the power my friend....and the choice IS yours. Don’t let your dreams die....

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Stanchaz, the OWS needs lots of people like you. The world needs lots of people like you. Thanks for your inspiration.

[-] 1 points by ediblescape (235) 3 years ago

"You DO have the power my friend....and the choice IS yours. Don’t let your dreams die...."

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 3 years ago

Beautiful. Right on.

[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

I like it. from a fellow brooklynite.

[-] 0 points by dotsend66 (43) 3 years ago

Bravo.I smell a freeeeeeeeedoooooooooooooom.

[-] 0 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Beautifully Written!

[-] 7 points by Jeffreyjmores (5) 3 years ago

I am a former U.S. Marine and I Support you 100% the movement.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Jeff, have you been to www.oathkeepers.org? Just take a look at it before you listen to the media about it. The media lies about Occupy too.

[+] -5 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

You’re a fucking traitor…A total disgrace to the United States Armed Forces..And as a Marine as you say you are..You are an embarrassment to the Corps … …

[-] 4 points by creamstp (40) 3 years ago

this marine has a different view than you and that makes him a traitor...what kind of American are you...who's the traitor.

[-] -3 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

You to by the looks of it...Fuck off loser

[-] 1 points by Jaid0gz (7) 3 years ago

If you're judging a person by his personal experiences with a country/service yet calling him wrong and a shame with NO reasonable evidence to support it, with any evidence being provided as biassed, than you, sir are the shame. Shame on you for being judgmental. Go occupy a penis.

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

I am judging him for what he is...And you are no better...Enjoy your little bit of time in the lime light as it is fading fast...We the real American people are sick of your crap...

[-] 1 points by Jaid0gz (7) 3 years ago

Sorry for being a terrorist, after all, that is what we are, right? You're so ignorant to the fact that if it weren't for us, so many issues wouldn't have been brought up. You're content with living the way you are because OH NO CHANGE. Wake up and realise how much good is being done. And for out time in the light, it hasn't even started yet. Prepare your anus because it's going to continue getting bigger. As for the American statement; thank fuck I'm not one because I have felt the influence of government and corporations, but not to the extent of you who is completely oblivious to external influences. And bud, no one's got sick of us. Those who have watch the wrong news and don't do any research of their own; proving that we're being overrun by bullshit. According to The New York Times, 84% of people have voted for Occupy Wall Street to be the 'person of the year' Thus proving your point wrong and further insinuating your ignorance and our intelligence. Good day sir.

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Wow....You guys really are brainwashed....You can talk all the bullshit you want...But somehow you guys never say anything about how to fix anything. Just a bunch of bongo beating & chanting.. And costing taxpayers dollars...Oh…And you have a good day to….Fucking Moron

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[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

are you a marine?

[-] 0 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

He claims to be have been in the Air Force, but look at his comment below. He didn't even know the upside down flag is a distress signal that the armed forces use.

I think he was in Ghaddafi's Air Force.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Air Force

[-] 5 points by JohnWa (513) 3 years ago

Election Lobbying

To avoid buying of candidates which is what happens, some other counties have legislated to limit campaign funds applied by any candidate for advertising. One cap for all.

This would be an improvement but still the best ideas may not get to the publics eye and ear from the most brilliant potential representatives due to their lack of funds, We want to elect leadership and representation with our ideas, not with money.

To over come this a better models has been used.

All candidates advertising is paid for by Govt coffers and no private money can be applied in any way. All candidates are put on the same footing.

Then we may well see a better range of voting options. The cost would be peanuts, and the quality of what we could see would be an out of sight improvement.

Added to that make stringent laws prohibiting any corporations, companies or groups from endorsing or supporting any candidate.

Presidential elections should be direct from the people, independent of middle men. Dump the Electoral College intervention by big money.

There are many ways to break this rotten system of oligarchy that oppresses us.

[-] 5 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

Message to participants in the Occupy movement:

In my new article ”The Transition Phase: The Road To Freedom” posted on my blog I share my thoughts on how to deal with state/police brutallity. This is something we have to expect, but it means that we´re doing the right thing; the elites are getting scared! In my article I also share my ideas as to what to do in general in order to achieve freedom and democracy. Please check it out. Thanks.

"What you should do is exactly the kinds of things that are going to lead to hysteria among privileged and powerful people" - Noam Chomsky NC at Occupy Boston (q&a at 28:30)

[-] 4 points by BreadLandPeace (359) 3 years ago

Hi, Chomsky also said in an earlier interview this year that the Vietnamese wanted the Americans to do legal, peaceful actions because violent actions would hurt their cause. In contrast, a group called the Weathermen would break windows because, as Chomsky said, it made them feel good. He said you have to do what might not feel good, like something peaceful, instead of something that feels good and hurts the cause. Thanks.

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[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 3 years ago

Brilliantly written.

I am not optimistic, but I hope and pray that those who are in positions to "represent" us, get off their behinds do just that. It is certainly difficult to make fundamental change. Much easier to keep rowing in the same direction... even if the boat is headed over Niagara Falls.

This movement is growing.

Lets not wait until we have another Kent State Massacre before something gets changed.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

so just as long as we have a constitution and no kings ruling us we shouldnt strive for making society better...? State, government and corporations are also power centers and hierachical; we should get rid of all power centers, especially the undemocratic power centers: the private tyrannies (aka corporations)

[-] 2 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

we need centers! we don't need an hierarchy. absolute equality in love and unity in our peaceful community. we need to remove the agents of the male hierarchies in the freemasons and the christian churches. they are obeying orders to "do good and infiltrate!" but we need centers for everything. centrers for healthcare, centers for justice, centers for mathematics, centers for poetry, centers for drumming, centerbs for general assemblies, centers for fire services, centers for engineering etc etc but now we are living under a fascist tyranny what can we learn from the French Resistance???!!???!! we need concentric centers of defence to slow down the imminent forcible evictions.

[-] 2 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Occupiers need to make it clearer to the police what the police have been asked to do.

I suggest following the Egyptians and the Libyans: Carry the Flag when they attack Americans. We have as much right to use it as they do.

Carry it upside down if you want to, and chant "We are Americans," to paraphrase Sharmar Thomas' "These are US citizens."

The police will not sense the wrong they are doing unless we make it clearer for them, that they are attacking Americans exercising their constitutional rights. Win them over. They are the 99% too.

http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Sorry to dissappoint you, you don't have a constitution any more. The Patriot Act converted it into toilet paper. The President is like God, omnipotent, above all rules and laws, with the only difference that the president is under orders from Wall Street and God is not.

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[-] 3 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Talk to any member of the military, police or sheriffs that you know NOW. And ask them, what would they do if given an unlawful order?

They have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. What would they do if given an order that violates it? Just get them thinking, that's all. Because at some point they are going to have to know what they would do.

Direct them to www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 3 years ago

What? The economic instability isn't enough for you? You want blood?

[-] 2 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

You are very right. As long as the police follow order blindly, and orders are given by the police chief, who is under orders of the mayor, who is under orders of the governor, who is under orders from Wall Street, there is no hope. There has to be a police revolution, like in Egypt police and army refused to shoot protesters.

[-] 1 points by bailoutapalooza (0) 3 years ago

And so what about Egypt's new boss? Is it any different? Or is it worse? The problem is the Egyptians still want Govt. to solve their problems. They should create a truly free market instead. Corporatism is what we have now, not true free market capitalism. http://www.voluntaryist.com/

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Oh, yes, there is free market, but free only for a few.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

exactly. and like anything grassroots it starts one person at a time.

[-] 2 points by FreeMarskeet (10) 3 years ago

Here are the facts: The Police have no duty to "protect." Go look it up. I'll help the Peanut Gallery with the (most-recent) reference: Castle Rock.

This case was about a woman with a protective order against her estranged husband. He kidnapped their three children. The local police department failed to act for a period of several hours, despite there being justification to get that protective order in the first place. The estranged husband ultimately murdered all three kids, then died in a shootout with police.

The United States Supreme Court ruled that there is no duty of protection toward any particular citizen by the police.

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

absolutely correct. They don't have to protect any particular citizen. They do however, swear to defend and protect the constitution. Which by doing so, protects the general citizenry.

[-] 1 points by Nersi (6) 3 years ago

Police has 2main duties. Keep the law and order . The law that protects the system that feeds it , and the order that keeps people in their places. They are also afraid of losing their job , mortgage . When you are on a horse and carry batons , you probably feel great about a system that puts you in a protected position to practice legal savagery to keep your masters and also enjoy the excitement , and the system knows well how to manipulate its uniformed thugs.

[-] 0 points by Dio1313 (69) 3 years ago

Do not act like an ass and you will not get beat. Quit crying about the police, ya big baby.

[-] 1 points by Nersi (6) 3 years ago

Your language is hardly one of dialog . I'd rather not comment.

[-] 2 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

Watch out for oathkeepers, they have something of a reputation as a being a collective of mercenaries and extremists and their interpretation of the constitution is questionable.

[-] 4 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Mercenaries would imply they are not active duty soldiers or veterans, which form the large portion of their membership. We do want them on our side you know.

Also, it is very hard to misinterpret that people have the right to 'peaceably assemble' or be free from warrantless searches and seizures and have the right of due process. Rights we are trying to stand up for ourselves. The only misinterpretation of these basic rights seem to be coming from Mayor's offices these days.

And remember they got their reputation the same place we get ours for being greedy lazy lice-ridden anarchists. The Main Stream Media. Divide and conquer at its best.

[-] 1 points by protest (43) 3 years ago

Mother Jones (not exactly mainstream wouldn't you say?):

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/02/oath-keepers

[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

You should look a little deeper into the oathkeepers. Also it is not unimaginable that our president could declare a police state and the rights go right out the window. Hopefully that won't happen.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Thats why I push Oathkeepers. Military need to think ahead what they would do if the government starts calling protesters 'enemy combatants'.

[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

The US military is also limited by the Posse Comitatus Act and only congressional approval would allow them to enforce the laws of the land at which point I don't know who has rights anymore.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Under Bush, they amended the Posse Comitatus to read it could be enacted if the president declares martial law or a state of emergency., no Congress needed. And added a clause which said Congress couldn't review it for 6 months.! State of emergency is what happened in Katrina, and national guard and regular army(!) were enforcing public order. The police chief made announcement on national tv declaring that the national guard, us army, sheriffs and police would be going door to door and removing all civilian owned weapons, and they did. The NRA helped the citizens sue and made them give them back. Lot of material and television video available to view about it. It was done once, it could happen again. YOu have to wonder how much would it take to declare martial law or a state of emergency in a city from OWS?

[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

I am having a hard time imagining a declaration of martial law to deal with peaceful protesters. But then again I'm sure the government could twist the facts to make it appear that peaceful protests are a threat to national security because they are impeding business and commerce and creating more debt for the country as a result or some other bullshit excuse like that.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

^ that's the fear. that it will be 'used'. to make elections impossible or other political advantage?

[-] 2 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Occupiers need to make it clearer to the police what the police have been asked to do.

I suggest following the Egyptians and the Libyans: Carry the Flag when they attack Americans. We have as much right to use it as they do.

Carry it upside down if you want to, and chant "We are Americans," to paraphrase Sharmar Thomas' "These are US citizens."

The police will not sense the wrong they are doing unless we make it clearer for them. Make it clear to them that they are attacking the 99% of Americans.

http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm

[-] 3 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Agreed

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

And in violation of the Constitutional rights they swore to defend.
Peaceful assembly. Freedom of speech. No arrest or detention without habeas corpus. (spent all day today immersing myself in that one.)

And if you KNOW any military or police, just ask them to go to www.oathkeepers.org ..and maybe they will begin to see we are not enemy combatants.

[-] 1 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Yes, we need to free the police from the clutches of Koch. They have been indoctrinated. Re-educate them. Remind them that they are there to protect Americans.

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

They will pull the trigger since the mind works on auto pilot from their training. Push someone and they will push back. A law of nature.

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

more and more of them are thinking about occupy and about the question of unlawful orders. www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

I think that when a person can decide right from wrong on his own then that person will use more of his common sense to make a decision.

[-] -1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Agreed! They get the same training as the Marines. Shoot to kill at the chest. Ask questions later! Beat with night sticks. Twist arm to it burns to break. Ask questions later! This informaiton was given to me personally by two police officers ,one is a sargent.

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[-] 2 points by Ratico (21) from Fredericksburg, VA 3 years ago

Your article is completly right about the people needing to take over the economic instutions - jobs. Society has evolved to the point where we no longer need money, trading or bartering to keep society funcioning. We only need democracy and a majority of the people to volunteer for jobs and nothing would have to change except starvation, war and genocide would all vanish. There are enough people who care for family and love and peace that people would volunteer and all would soon have enough. But first the people must come together. Only together can we take back what is ours, the reverence of life. Tried to post this on your blog but was not able. Great blog.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

glad you liked it. Thanks (comments on my blog just need approval before theyre posted)

[-] 1 points by ediblescape (235) 3 years ago

It takes 5 year for Wikipedia and Wikileaks to beat old powerful systems by volunteers. It will take a year for OWS to beat old political system by wolunteers.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 3 years ago

How are strong text and link text posted here ?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/tracking-post-variations/#comment-347879

[-] 4 points by Idaltu (662) 3 years ago

Go Portland Occupiers! The cops simply cannot hold back the wave of human bodies. I noticed that even the cops on horses could not push their way into the crowd....this is working!

[-] 3 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

the movement´s growing for each day. This is the beginning of somthing huge!

greetings and solidarity from Norway. SFF

[+] -5 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Can't wait till the Police dump the rubber bullets and start using real ones...

[-] 1 points by Frizzle (520) 3 years ago

Not to crush your dreams or anything. But when that happens and people get killed on purpose. That would most likely only fuel the support for the movement. And make it grow beyond our wildest dreams.

Lets be clear that i do not want to see that happen. Any death or suffering from any human being is a shame. And should be prevented at all cost.

[-] 4 points by jph (2652) 3 years ago

Why are cops so sadistic? The guy in the white shirt is cooperating, and still five cops twist his arms and beat him to the ground. Pathetic.

[-] 2 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

It's a show. Read about William Randolph Hearst and how he made news up in order to boost sales of his rag newspaper. Same thing with contemporary media. The media is owned by the 1%. I'm sure there are some in the 1% who are getting anxious and so that is why OWS is getting mainstream news coverage.

[-] 2 points by groobiecat2 (746) from Brattleboro, VT 3 years ago

The US is a violent country. The police in this country are often violent against protests--and have been throughout history. And yes, they do protect the existing order, and often have little problem abrogating essential constitutionally guaranteed rights.

It's not like this <a href="http://www.groobiecat.blogspot.com/2011/11/tale-of-two-cities-two-demonstrations.html"> everywhere</a> however. Peace.

Groobiecat

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

It´s just means we´re on the right track. The financial elites are getting scared and desperate. Please read my new article ”The Transition Phase: The Road To Freedom”

greetings from Norway SFF

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

The cops are trained to be brutal. They would beat their own mother if they saw her in the crowd of 99%.

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

They would. That's why we have to get them thinking. Got a brother in law, a neighbor who is a cop? Send them to www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 3 years ago

I partially agree. I think it´s more that the cops are simply just taking orders. And the ones giving them orders are the business-run/infuenced states/government whose rulers are getting scared and desperate. This is something we have to expect in our struggle for freedom yours s SFF

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

it's obvious they are trained to be brutal. they are controlled by the fascist elite through the male-only hierarchy of the freemasons. the freemasons/knights templar control main street through the legal system of property rights.

[+] -5 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

If I was a Cop...I'd beat your ass for being such a fucking idiot...

[-] 2 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

That's why you're not a cop. You're a psychopath. The police make a good effort to weed people like you out.

[-] -3 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Good thing to...People like you would not be protesting

[-] 1 points by Jaid0gz (7) 3 years ago

What he is implying is that they are legally obliged to do what the commander tells them. They would be treated like normal citizens. If you haven't understood yet, let me paraphrase: They would have to be arrrested, and if it was a pig who had to arrest their mother they would, because they've been brainwashed to think along that train of thought.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

"if it was a pig who had to arrest " Sorry bud...You lost me there...If thats what you call them then that shows what you really are....

[-] 4 points by ayantheworld (3) 3 years ago

Congratulations, Portlandians(?) on a hard-fought victory. The city of Portland belongs to the people of Portland... the streets, parks,... all of it is the peoples'. The cops are welcome to share in it, but no way can they bar access. Bravo to all you brave souls for staying out ALL NIGHT. Keep up the good fight!

[-] 1 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 3 years ago

After the inevitable looting of fort knox, I'll personally make each one of you gold medals. You truly are the Champions. THANKS PORTLAND!! Way to blaze the trails!

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Indeed!

[+] -4 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

As filthy as the camps are...Nice way to get Tuberculosis among other diseases....:)

[-] 3 points by Gratt1 (2) 3 years ago

I am a firefighter in Arizona and have been following the movement on the internet since the media stopped covering it. It disgusts me to no end to see law enforcement being used against the very people that they swore to protect. I don't understand why the police and firefighter labor unions don't speak out against these attacks on the public. After all, labor unions and the movement share the same goals. I support the movement and educate everyone that I can. Keep up the good work and God Bless. On a side note, a local councilman in Phoenix wants to put a price on freedom of speech be billing the protesters for all the police overtime from Occupy Phoenix.

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Gratt, send everyone you know to www.oathkeepers.org. its a group of military, police and firefighters who are beginning to 'get it', and have re-affirmed their oaths to uphold the constitution.

[-] 3 points by shill (60) 3 years ago

If you want to know what the police & military will do check out what happened at Kent State 1972 if i remember right.

[-] 1 points by cat7757 (18) 3 years ago

It was 1970, the national guard killed the kids at Kent State - and old dude that totally supports OWS.

[-] 1 points by cat7757 (18) 3 years ago

Be careful my young friends, the same was true during Nam, the right wingers do not care if your killed, the governor of Ohio was re-elected after ordering the shooting of the kids at Kent State. Keep it strong but use your head.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

that was the national guard, and if you read it, the kid who fired the shots was scared to death. horrible. but remembering Kent State could keep shots from being fired again.

Please, if you're police or military, go to www.oathkeepers.org. just spend a few minutes there. We are Americans, not enemy combatants.

[-] 3 points by JPage (7) 3 years ago

Rebuild the camp tonight, the cops are exhausted.

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Yep. Suck the energy out of those 'lawmen". They gotta go home sometime!

[+] -5 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

When you all have Tuberculosis...You will go home...:)

[-] 0 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 3 years ago

biological warfare?

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

No...Just filthy hippies...They do it themselves

[-] 3 points by Jeffreyjmores (5) 3 years ago

I am a former U.S. Marine and I Support you 100% the movement.

[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 3 years ago

Awesome! Thank you for your service to our nation, and thank you for your support of a movement working to restore Democracy to it..

[-] 3 points by Skyeskye1 (49) 3 years ago

Thank you Portland! From West Palm Beach FL. We are grateful for what you are doing for this country, for humanity. Be safe and God bless.

[-] 3 points by Barny197 (7) 3 years ago

Today the corporations and monied run our country. There is a need for a 28th Amendment to our Constitution to restore rights to we the people. 1. Congress will no longer accept campaign monies from any corporation or lobbyist group, no exceptions 2 Upon leaving public service, no former member of Congress shall be employed as a lobbyist in any form.

[-] 2 points by redhead3 (1) from Windsor, ON 3 years ago

Add to that: Politicians are elected by us as Civil Servants. They are not Demi gods. We can vote for their pay raises, benefits and vacation time. Did I read that they just voted to give themselves a week off every 2 weeks? Pensions that amount to 6 digits MUST STOP!! They are currently not working during work hours - must they be paid to do Nothing? Oh, they did pass the baseball hero coin and we can still use In God We Trust on our money - hard work? or hardly working. I'm afraid that there is no difference between the 2 parties anymore - they are all too big and rich to care and am sure they have already laid out their battle plans for us - the people who voted for them - what a world we are leaving for our children - wasn't my American Dream and nor will it "BE" their's - --OWS - Thanks for your enduring what some of us cannot (age/disabilities); but, we are with you in networking, petitions, contributions, and exercise our Occupations at local levels - in the streets - even if only for a day. You are doing the hard work but when it comes down to it - we will rise.

[-] 2 points by TheFred (43) from Clinton, IL 3 years ago

Plus, they shouldn't receive a huge pension for life, nor Cadillac healthcare. They should get no more than what the people receive.

[-] 2 points by nicky1 (1) 3 years ago

I love Oregon

[-] 2 points by tkf (1) 3 years ago

More than 450 years ago, this was written

"You sow your crops in order that he may ravage them; you install and furnish your homes to give him goods to pillage; you rear your daughters that he may gratify his lust; you bring up your children in order that he may confer upon them the greatest privilege he knows — to be led into his battles, to be delivered to butchery, to be made the servants of his greed and the instruments of his vengeance; you yield your bodies unto hard labor in order that he may indulge in his delights and wallow in his filthy pleasures; you weaken yourselves in order to make him the stronger and the mightier to hold you in check. From all these indignities, such as the very beasts of the field would not endure, you can deliver yourselves if you try, not by taking action, but merely by willing to be free."

Etienne de la Boetie - "The Politics of Obedience".

We face a very long standing problem, over centuries.. It is long since time it was put to rest so that Man may enjoy his humanity with fellow Man. You are mankind shouting "no more", shout loud with peace in your hearts and waken those that still slumber.

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http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?9wgd1y9m6352qow

[-] 2 points by Bellaciao29 (99) 3 years ago

The policemen defend the elites because are paid by them. The day that the money to pay these monsters will come to an end, they will back us. That is happening in Italy, where the policemen haven't enough money to buy the petrol and to repair the cars. In the meantime we can organize a national or an international "class action" with million people who denounce their brutality. The elites are playing their last cards. They know that, if the citizen win, they will have lost forever. This permits to foresee their imminent debacle.

[-] 2 points by squarerootofzero (81) 3 years ago

I knew that there would be push back from the establishment. But, I certainly haven't expected the blow-back from the "middle-class". However, I can imagine that anything that is even remotely questioning established rule will be fought with anger - MLK, Right(s) to Vote, and Integration. Anger because of fear in change. Fear because we are all "supposed" to be at home watching our TV's and that is "safe".

[-] 2 points by mikeh9 (18) 3 years ago

Keep it up OWS, your cause is a just one. Those who can't be there with you appreciate what you're doing for us. Never give up! Push the government to make changes. The government doesn't rule us, WE rule them.

[-] 2 points by Howard (25) 3 years ago

Members of congress are so corrupt! Watch this Sixty Minutes story on how they leave Washington as millionaires based on illegal insider trading from their Wall Street buddies on our backs! http://www.breitbart.tv/60-minutes-reports-on-massive-washington-corruption-exposed-by-investigative-journalist-and-breitbart-editor-peter-schweizer/

[-] 2 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

May I suggest following the Egyptians and the Libyans:

Carry the Flag when they attack you. You have as much right to use it as they do.

Carry it upside down if you want to, and chant "We are Americans," to follow Sharmar Thomas.

The police will not sense the shame unless you make it clearer for them.

This is your country. Those of you out there protecting our rights: You are really the brave ones. Thank you.

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Carry it upside down if you want to??? ...And you wonder why everyone thinks your Idiots...Well there you go.

[-] 3 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

You claim to be in the Air force and you don't even know this?

http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm

You must have been in Ghadafi's Libyan Air Force.

[-] 2 points by Thisisthetime (200) from Kahlotus, WA 3 years ago

Occupy Portland. I am not worthy. Your Courage is Inspirational. May You Be Strong and Protect Each Other. Fair-ness.

[-] 2 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

don't lose your marbles under their hooves or you will bring them down off their high horses!

[-] 2 points by pinker (586) 3 years ago

The whole world is watching - all but those 1.6 billion who live without electricity.

[-] 2 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

Talk to any member of the military, police or sheriffs that you know NOW. And ask them, what would they do if given an unlawful order?

They have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. What would they do if given an order that violates it? Just get them thinking, that's all. Because at some point they are going to have to know what they would do.

Direct them to www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 2 points by JohnWa (513) 3 years ago

Conflict, war - someone will be making money and it is not you and I.

History repeats so we know what happens. Large scale wars find bankers usually funding both sides of war as well as get a large slice of the spoils. The bankers are related.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm

[-] 2 points by DonHawkins (37) 3 years ago

http://knowledge321.wordpress.com/ Stay strong you are correct.............

[-] 2 points by daddyo14171 (48) 3 years ago

I thought the video below was a powerful statement of unity. Portland may be full of crazies but they do have balls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxbowRmzetY

[-] 1 points by antinyx (0) from Tacoma, WA 3 years ago

Whats wrong with our police? I thought they were supposed to be helping and protecting people!
What's wrong with our news sources? They seemed to think that the security forces that sided with the people during the Arab spring were hero's, why aren't they investigating why our police aren't supporting the people?

[-] 1 points by jane1 (100) 3 years ago

OWS the World is With You!

[-] 1 points by apato (6) 3 years ago

HOW MANY ARE WE ?!?! GO TO THIS SITE !

www.theindignados.org

Go to this website, and show your indignation, just by putting your name in a text box ! Let show the world how many Indignants/occupants are we !

[-] 1 points by shifty2 (117) 3 years ago

A 60 Minutes report on Sunday examined the ways that members of Congress trade on inside, privileged information to make themselves rich — without breaking any laws. Even though many positions in the federal government are bound by conflict of interest laws, Congresspeople are exempt from insider trading rules and are perfectly free to make business deals based on information they learn through their jobs.

The story is based on the work of Peter Schweizer, a researcher at the Hoover Institution. (Others have been studying the issue. As Bloomberg's Lizzie O'Leary and others have pointed out, The Wall Street Journal has reported on this issue quite recently and Megan McArdle dedicated her column in The Atlantic's November issue to the phenomenon of "congressional insider trading.") Schweizer and his team have looked at financial transactions made by Representatives and Senators and found that many, including the past three House Speakers, have made deals that appear to be based on non-public information that they had access to thanks to their position in Washington. Schweizer calls it "honest graft," since many people would consider it unethical, even though it's not illegal.

Some times it's stock trades (John Boehner reportedly invested in several health care stocks shortly before killing the public option in last year's legislation) and other times it's simply making a well-timed business deal. (Like when former Speaker Dennis Hastert secured an earmark for a federal highway project that just happened to pass by some land he already owned. He later sold the land for $2 million dollars.) Nancy Pelosi has participated in eight IPOs, including some involving companies that had business before her House. Schweizer says that giving a Senator or Congressperson pre-IPO shares in a company is allowed under current rules, even though giving them an equal amount in cash would be considered a illegal bribe.

A Pelosi spokesperson criticized the 60 Mintues report, though he did not actually deny the facts that were presented.

The problem, of course, is that not only are these transactions perfectly legal under existing law, the people who benefit the most are the ones who write the laws. Naturally, most members of Congress don't seem eager to take away these special benefits that can turn humble public servants in the multi-millionaires.

Meanwhile, when Wall Street insiders make similar moves, they end up in jail. You can watch the entire 60 Minutes report below:

[-] 1 points by Ubuntu (34) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

I love seeing the police in riot gear, standing in a formation, walking backwards. Just such a potent image.

[-] 1 points by eidos (285) 3 years ago

awesome

[-] 1 points by art5 (0) 3 years ago

The use of Animals against the people should be illegal and considered abusive for both us and the animal. Attorneys should be teaming up with a festival a lawsuits.......

[-] 1 points by GreenbeltCarousel (15) 3 years ago

Enjoy the wrath of the pigslop the bankers ate tonight and punish your eliminatory functions. Rejoice in the moving of your bowels for the 99.

[-] 1 points by jaimeordonezvictoria (4) 3 years ago

I have extrapolated this from three recent NPR news casts. I believe that the 99% Occupy Movement should capitalize on this recipe of three existing wrongs that appear to be among (if not) "the" major contributors to this tragedy that we are all protesting:

Imagine (1) a transparent Congress who is not allowed to withhold the names of companies who financially support their campaigns, while (2) abolishing the 501c4 non-profit "campaign contribution" organization tax code loopholes (that they hide their crime behind,) and (3) repeal Corporate Person-hood, and you will have America back. Period. These are the three legislated policies that formulated this disaster.... It's called "conspiracy," and conspiracy is illegal in this country.

I believe that if you investigate these extrapolations, you will have a story that needs to go viral. — Reform Congress = Reform the 1%!!

Hey,... the 99% Occupation Movement is constantly being criticized for not having a goal and set of requirements. Why not these three?? Why not you??

I am sending this out everywhere, even the White House. Please pass it on. I think NPR has given us clues.

Jaime Ordonez Victoria

[-] 1 points by ALeftLibertarian (-1) 3 years ago

We must not stoop down to their level, but we must not be afraid to defend ourselves from the state's tyranny. The people at Occupy Portland should have stood up and defended themselves from the henchmen of the state. There should've been resistance. We cannot stand by while these thugs beat us down, kidnap us, and throw us in cages to rot.

[-] 1 points by xOccupyx (66) 3 years ago

Portland, you were amazing in this video. I cannot applaud you all enough; well done!

[-] 1 points by RonPaulallthewayin2012 (5) 3 years ago

Ron P a u l is the only one who will end the corruption between politicians and the Wall Streeters. He has never allowed a lobbyist in his congressional office ever in 30 years. End the wars,end the Fed, restore freedom!!!! Ron P a u l 2012!!!!

[-] 1 points by RonPaulallthewayin2012 (5) 3 years ago

End Washington D.C. and bankster corruption, end the wars, end the Federal(nonfederal) Reserve, Ron Lawl 2012!!!!!

[-] 1 points by dbmetzger (0) 3 years ago

from reuters

Police, Protesters Clash in Portland Police clad in riot gear confronted "Occupy Portland" protesters in Oregon over the weekend. http://www.newslook.com/videos/371178-police-protesters-clash-in-portland?autoplay=true

[-] 1 points by Motherfckerjones (0) 3 years ago

If they single one person out make sure to stop the arrest. If their going to try to arrest one might as well try to arrest everyone.

[-] 1 points by littlebiggygirl (26) from Hesperia, CA 3 years ago

do events like last night's improve public opinion about the Occupy movement? http://littlebiggy.org/4660547

[-] 1 points by Shenonymous (3) 3 years ago

We are getting the news that crimes are being committed by those among the Occupiers. It could be claimed that these are false reports. It is up to Occupiers to find out the truth, though.. because that kind of thing gives the movement a bad name. Occupiers need to police themselves. Their mission is much too important to hide criminals. While Chomsky is not my hero, he often says things that are sensible, like to be a peaceful movement regardless of the emotions that are motivating violence. Anarchistic passion is initially needed to move a body to action (since self-interest is primary in the human psyche) but it burns itself out leaving only chaos in its wake as well as risking rejecting by a public that is coming around to supporting the movement. So it is prudent to know when to turn the corner to more propitious activity. It depends on what Occupiers really want.

[-] 1 points by rcarmstrong (115) from Cadyville, NY 3 years ago

I'm inspired and I hope you are too:

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/11/13

A moving anthem, "We Are the Many, Not the Few"

[-] 1 points by tribalscribal (7) 3 years ago

Sick of watching Occupations busted by Democratic mayors? Contact the National Conference of Democratic Mayors at 202-969-1695 or email at info@DemocraticMayors.org

[-] 1 points by TarigAnter (33) from Khartoum, Khartoum 3 years ago

Western Democracy is a Financiers’ Joke The financial and economic crises of Europe and in the West in general are bringing new corrupt solutions and concepts. It is impossible to understand and not to be outraged by the new practices of Western “democracies”.

One late example, in Greece and Italy the elected prime ministers and governments were forced to resign. The pressures on them didn’t come from the peoples but from the EU and from the financiers. This means that elections and the decisions made by voters are useless.

Government cabinets and members of parliaments are no longer answerable to the people but primarily to the EU and to financiers. Sovereignty is now being sold in European and Western financial markets. It is the same old story that changed the map of Europe and toppled European systems in the in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Did anyone learn?

People are very concerned about the way the EU demanded austerity is being distributed; but the “democratic” politicians are only worried about the EU and financiers interests.

The former Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou was swiftly removed just because he decided that a referendum is essential to approve the EU debt package agreement. His plan infuriated European leaders, and rocked globalist financiers. Then the proposed referendum was emphatically scraped to appease them.

In a similar manner, the former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi of Italy was hastily ditched because he insisted that Italy will not ask for loans from the IMF. Europe and the USA are victims of the same systematic sabotage of overspending; debts; speculations; and financiers’ control for a very long time.

Is it possible in the near future to see voting being conducted in stock exchanges rather than in voting centers?

Western democracies on both sided of the Atlantic are influenced by financiers and not by the people. It would be better for them to rename their own form of “Democracy” to be “Finocracy”. http://tariganter.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/western-democracy-is-a-financiers%e2%80%99-joke/

[-] 1 points by jdf (3) from Micanopy, FL 3 years ago

The police state has begun to crack down on the various Occupy movements, but the Occupiers' passion for change is irrepressible. This IS revolution, and the flimsy excuses invoked to break up the encampments change nothing.

To countenance injustice is to be complicit with the malefactors. When lives and livelihoods are threatened by the unbridled greed of a parasitic plutocracy, the oppressed must needs rise up--with intelligence, and in a spirit of nonviolence--to subvert the rule of their oppressors.

The Empire of Mammon will fall.

[-] 1 points by walret (2) from East Orange, NJ 3 years ago

What's OCCUPY'S solution? Anything but Greed of the Entitled.

[-] 1 points by joesmith7789 (31) 3 years ago

Is there any truth to the rumors that some of the police breaking up the occupy camps are foreign military wearing local police enforcement uniforms? The theory is that foreign military are not part of the 99% and will do what they are paid and told to do by their superiors

[-] 1 points by zarathustra (18) from Orrington, ME 3 years ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

seriously made my day

[-] 1 points by Keakevene (0) 3 years ago

This song and video that I created speaks to all of this. Spread the word. #IAMTHE99 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFYV-SHU7w0

[-] 1 points by Howard (25) 3 years ago

WATCH SIXTY MINUTES! It exposes members of congress making millions off of insider trading from their Wall Street connections.

[-] 1 points by worker1 (2) 3 years ago

Guess a lot you did not know the police went in and cleared out the people in the park there. Won a battle but lost the war.

[-] 1 points by occupyoccupyoccupy (14) 3 years ago

live feed of PORTLAND RIGHT NOW. http://www.katu.com/news/live

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 3 years ago
[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

I would like to know whats going on in the cops minds.

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Same as mine...What a bunch of stinking filthy losers...

[-] 2 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 3 years ago

God help you sir or madam, I really hope there are not that many people reacting the way you are. This kind of negative stress is not good for you. Do you know what that does to your body? your mind? You may want to take a breather. Just step away, there is really nothing to see here. Peace.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

That would be Sir...And there are plenty of folks that are thinking the same as I do...I guess I am just a glutton for punishment because I post my thoughts here...But hey...Somebody has to.

[-] 2 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 3 years ago

Well to each his own. If it is punishment you want, you probably will not find too much here though. There are however, plenty of people posting their thoughts and some even willing to engage in intelligent debate. You may find that you can get your point across better, if you tone it down a bit. There is really nothing to panic about. It is what it is.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Well I was toned down if you read any of my post from a day ago...But after I got banned for the 2nd time...I said fuck it...I am saying what is on my mind..They can keep banning...I can make new IP addresses just as fast as they ban me

[-] 1 points by USCitizenVoter (720) 3 years ago

My comment was for struggleforfreedom80. Didn't your mother teach you any manners mrdman. madman

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Ummm ...this is an open forum ...Least I thought it was

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Yes! Now the the police only have to comprehend that they are part of US...The 99% ! Move Forward Portland! Move Forward OWS ! Lean Forward 1 % America and Listen Up...We The 99% will not be silenced. We The People are within our right to Peacefully Assemble!

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 3 years ago

New chant when faced by the police:

Keep your oath!

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Then try doing peacefully ....

[-] 1 points by SNM (9) 3 years ago

This is all over the news in New York. I am sure it will be in the news tomorrow. I spent the day in a quiet sub-urban town watching the kids play soccer. Sideline conversations were about the 99%. Most of the moms and dads agree with the movement. Keep up the fight. I am too old to do it..

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 3 years ago

The 'news' from Occupy tells a really different picture than what Reuters is saying:

Occupy Portland protest sites emptying out

(Reuters) - Occupy Portland encampments were nearly empty on Sunday as protesters packed up and left after warnings by city officials that they would be evicted over the weekend.

Fewer than a dozen tents remained at two downtown parks where protesters have camped since early October as part of the nationwide Occupy Wall street movement against alleged economic injustice.

City officials said they planned to put up fences around the two Portland parks to close them to protesters on Sunday afternoon.

"The parks are going to be closed to the public effective when the Portland Police Bureau feels that it can be done in a peaceful and successful way," Mayor Sam Adams said at a Sunday morning news conference.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/13/us-usa-protests-oregon-idUSTRE7AC0W720111113

[-] 4 points by ARealNewYorker (227) from Brooklyn, NY 3 years ago

The other day in the Park I was facilitating a discussion when I was approached by a Reuters reporter and asked for my name (by the way, before he identified himself, which is a journalistic no-no). I told the reporter he could interview me if he wanted to, but he could not quote anything I said while facilitating, since I would be synopsizing other peoples' positions (which would mean that he would be quoting me paraphrasing someone else, and not speaking my own position). He promptly left. Reporters who come through Zuccotti Park regularly quote us out of context or ask deliberately leading questions. I'm not saying they're all lying all the time, but they certainly have agenda.

[-] 2 points by squarerootofzero (81) 3 years ago

News media is all about appealing to the broadest audience as possible and being as pro-establishment as possible to attract advertisers whose main goal is to sell some sort of a product. A large percentage of people actually believe most of what they read on these "news" sites or from the TV (which is basically some kind of infomercial in disguise.) OWS is getting crucified in the media. Because people don't like to hear the truth and it sure as heck doesn't sell a product.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 3 years ago

All of the news media is lying when they tell me that the Occupy Portland encampment was cleared out by cops?

[-] 0 points by jayp74 (195) 3 years ago

OWS is getting "crucified" because you have no unified message and no spokesman to represent you to the media. The result is that the media randomly selects anyone who is willing to talk to them and this then becomes the "position" of OWS.

[-] 1 points by squarerootofzero (81) 3 years ago

That has been covered Ad nauseam already. I really don't feel like beating a dead horse. All I can do is ask people to be more informed. I can't make them do it.

[-] 1 points by jcm1027 (32) from Eugene, OR 3 years ago

media outreach groups would be a good idea ...

anyway, there were two near-death overdoses and an incendiary device planted at a business, all of which were related to the portland encampment. those are some pretty epic failures from people who are supposed to be building a new society. can't even keep the junk out of your camp? LAME!

[-] 1 points by CancelCurrency (128) 3 years ago

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. July 4, 1776.

[-] 1 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 3 years ago

Term limits are a bad idea. They take away our right to vote for candidates we want. Remember it was a right wing Republican congress that imposed term limits on the Presidency because they were afraid of another popular president like FDR.

[-] 1 points by karenpoore (902) 3 years ago

Think about it they do not let the "homeless" sleep or camp in public either. Something like the main stream news they do not want the general public to see truth!

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[-] 0 points by stevo (314) 3 years ago

Maybe you have't been keepin up on current events...but you just got your asses...EVICTED

[-] 0 points by Thisisthetime (200) from Kahlotus, WA 3 years ago

Congratulations to Occupy Portland for Holding Their Ground. It took a lot of Courage to Stand Up to the deputies of The Sheriff. Keep Up the Good Work and Keep Moving Forward. Fair-ness.

[-] 0 points by stevo (314) 3 years ago

Another hippie shanty town ..shut down. Boo hoo. Back to your mom's basement, and World of Warcraft, until the spring thaw

[-] 0 points by jayp74 (195) 3 years ago

You people are delusional. ".. police are foreign military..", ".. we no longer need money, trading or bartering to keep society funcioning.", "After the inevitable looting of fort knox, I'll personally make each one of you gold medals..."

You are not the 99% - more like .01%. The other 98.99% of those you think are part of your 99% are turning their attention away from this disorganized mob.

If you seriously want change, do it incrementally. Every day you act more like an angry mob and use rediculous rhetoric to make your points, you lose more and more of those who are following this movement. I carefully read many of the posts here and agree with a lot of what is said. But this kind of shit is getting you nowhere.

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[-] 0 points by kennyrw (92) from Salem, OR 3 years ago

Portland has a population of about 584,000, if generous 10,000 people were at the protest last night not all from Portland per the Occupy Portland "representatives". Even if all were from Portland, that means only 2% of the city is making up the 99%.

What are the numbers like in other cities?

[-] 0 points by freeusa (14) 3 years ago

The constitution is an article that described the right people should have and protected.

However, where is the line between obey the law vs. braking the law? You all have the right to protest and exercise your freedom of speech etc. but the other side of the coin there is law and order. The police officers, law enforcements, and military are representing the law that the very same constitution had stated and they sworn to protect. If the people of a city 100% agree upon the movement of OWS, then yes maybe the officer is on the wrong side of the fence, but this is not the case for a town, city, or the whole country at this time yet. The office are holding the laws and defending the constitution for those individual who are opposite of the OWS movement, those individual could be the 40% 30% or even 1% of the whole, but we too have the same right you guys are preaching. I am the individual who is on the opposite side of OWS, I do have the same right as what the constitution had written. The officer in uniform are protecting my right to have a clean and quite public park I can visit, a clear road and sidewalk I can use, and they defending my right of freedom of speech to say NO to OWS movement if they are no longer a peaceful protester. The current government system is base on election; come up with a fair non-leaning election process is going serve greater goods vs. challenge the authority or the law which written base upon constitution to protect all individual having the very same right.

[-] 2 points by squarerootofzero (81) 3 years ago

You need to have a better understanding of Constitutional law. You actually don't have those "rights" as you call them. You have the Constitutional right to assemble and to the freedom of speech for the purpose of a more "perfect" Union. Should Rosa Parks NOT have violated the "law" and sat at the back of the bus, so that whites had the "right" to sit in the front? Have some courage to stand up.

[-] 0 points by goingdown (9) 3 years ago

When the crack down comes.. and it will.. remember, you asked for it.

[-] 1 points by cat7757 (18) 3 years ago

And when ever the crackdown comes this vet will be ready, prepared, and full of vigor!! Go OWS!!

[-] 0 points by goingdown (9) 3 years ago

full of vigor? I think you misspelled liquor.

[-] 1 points by cat7757 (18) 3 years ago

Cute, but there is a difference, vigor is strength and resolve, liquor is for little sheep republican boys like you.

[-] 0 points by goingdown (9) 3 years ago

LOL. Another internet tough guy.

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[-] 0 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

This is great! The big numbers of people are what is needed at every occupy site. Peacefully outnumbering the police, authorities and whoever else wants to crush this protest is the way to go, it's a win win.

[-] 0 points by sufinaga (513) 3 years ago

beautiful people! great to see the police retreating. our numbers can beat the AOPD in every city. they will be back and filled with hate! beware wednesday 16th november!! COME OUT AND SHOW THEM.

[-] 0 points by crashingglobalmarkets (43) from Brick, NJ 3 years ago

Beautifully. Peacefully. Go portland.

[-] 0 points by RapturedPhoenix (1) 3 years ago

So far, most of what i see are fringe ideologies and a message for change with no fair, equitable, and just plan for implementing that change. Seems like anarchists that resent and want to destroy the very mechanism that enabled them to have a voice in the first place. An idea, lots of hard work, and hopefully, ethics, can produce financial success in America. Godlessness produces corruption in the wealthy and poor alike. Attacking the godlessness of Wall Street is hypocritical when those attacking are equally godless. You cannot separate morality from godliness unless you first blur what godliness actually is. Thus far, I see too much godlessness on both sides of the fence and I fear the OW movement is simply a vehicle being used to intiate civil unrest to the degree that martial law can be declared and subsequently suspend the very constitution that gives you your right to speak. Might want to really really think about who's pulling the strings and question their motives. It's easy to paint a picture of innocence and stick it on the face of a tyrant. Government control of American lives is exactly what so many died to set us free from. To now hear voices crying out to re-enslave is disconcerting.

[-] 2 points by Jonas541 (72) 3 years ago

Which god do you speak of.... The god of the old testament, the god of the new testament, bale, Zeus, Thor, or any number of other invisible gods? Why can't we have the simple understanding of what is good for us and what is bad for us without some absent father figure telling us what to think and who to be?

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 3 years ago

"Anarchist" was defined by The Catholic Worker during the Great Depression as "One who is bound by the dictates of his conscience." Your use of the word reflects the propaganda you have swallowed.

Today, the Sisters of St. Francis of Philadelphia are working toward many the same goals as the Occupy movement. Are they "Godless" too?

I find it a shame that you disparage a group of people who are demonstrating against avarice and covetousness, who - whether they believe in Jesus or Krishna - are representing the spiritual values of egalitarianism, fairness, and concern for their fellow human beings, as somehow Godless. You may need to look at your own piety if these are the values you reject.

One final thing: remember the Good Samaritan? He was a gentile, a non-believer of Jesus's religion. But he acted upon the right values. Who did Jesus favor? Those who believed in God the way he did but didn't act on that belief, or the one who acted on the values he espoused? Think about that before you judge so-called anarchists. They may very well be the Samaritans of our age.

[-] 0 points by freeows (84) 3 years ago

No apology needed because of the data. You keep us posted of what's happening over there We are proud of you. We love you, people in Portland! Best wishes from California!

[-] -1 points by Dio1313 (69) 3 years ago

By to all you lazy losers. I have wasted enough time here. You are losing. I will be visiting a bunch of "occupy" sites over the next few days in case any of you want to beat me up. I am easy to recognize. I will be the filthy hippie walking around spouting off stupid shit. Walk up and kick my ass if you dare.

[-] -1 points by kennyrw (92) from Salem, OR 3 years ago

Let th Occupy movements stay in the parks! Let them live in their own filth, let them overdose, let them become ill from exposure. It is the world they want they have created let them live in it, keep them from away from the real world. Keep them away from those who work every day, care for their children, families and friends. Do not allow the poison to leach out of their camps. Let them gather and chant slogans this is their way of changing the world. But in the end what has changed, how many of those they hate spend sleepless nights worrying their position is in Jeopordy. The Tea Party changed the face of the US House of Representatives. Put fear in the hearts of those who suckle from the public tit. Has the Occupy movement done any of this, no.

[-] -2 points by roloff (244) 3 years ago

God I hope they shoot those people dead

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

I sure hope the Police are wearing their Hazmat Suits before going into any of the camps…Yuck..How nasty

[-] -2 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

The headline should read..."Thousands of Fucking Filthy Idiots Rally to Resist Occupy Portland Evictions

[-] -2 points by bohratom (22) 3 years ago

People think the police and just big dumb fat guys. In this case they outplayed ows pretty damn good.

[-] 1 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 3 years ago

Outplayed? They have guns and batons. How does that indicate intelligence, rather than brute force?

This movement has attained critical mass. When one gathering place is shut down, another one opens up, ALL OVER THE THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD. Guns and batons are poor weapons against an idea. Outplayed? Hardly!

[-] 0 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Don't you have a cop car to go shit on?

[-] -2 points by justaguy (91) 3 years ago

If they see someone throwing a Molotov cocktail is it within the rights of the police to shoot and kill him?

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[-] -3 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Here is a thought for you fucking idiots….After you get arrested and now have a criminal record…How do you expect to get a decent job?...You do know that any respectable company will do a background check don’t you?..I know there is no way in hell I would hire any of you clowns..

[-] 1 points by GVP (0) 3 years ago

Most prosecutors are not charging the protesters with any crimes and just releasing them as they are not breaking any laws.

[-] 1 points by jdoggma (25) 3 years ago

If you get arrested it does not disqualify you from being in the US congress. About half of them have criminal records.

[-] 0 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

You do have a good point there...lol

[-] 1 points by mvjobless (370) 3 years ago

I don't think protesting gets you a criminal record, misdemeanor at most.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Damn...You got me there...LOL

[-] -3 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Ban my IP address...That’s nice...Problem is I know how to change it...I was being nice on here but all bets are off now..As far as I am concerned ...You can all drop dead from whatever filthy disease you get from there...And the sooner the better..None of you fucking sheep have a clue as to what your even protesting…Go ahead and insult me all you want but I and as most Americans know who the real pieces of shit are…Try my 3 G plan….Grow up..Get off drugs and Get a job

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Karma! It will have away of backfiring on you! Everything you say about the 99%,the people in the movement and the hateful things you say on this forum,may it come to you 10 fold!

You sir, are a small unhappy man!

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

I am 6'4 ,,,Retired and happy....Sorry but your insults mean nothing to me coming from a low life shit such as yourself

[-] 2 points by creamstp (40) 3 years ago

For a 64 yr. old man you certainly behave like a babbling 3 yr. old...I read all your posts...get your therapist to change your medication...or better yet sit in your garage with your car running....

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

I ride a Harley...Sorry

[-] 2 points by Jaid0gz (7) 3 years ago

Harley's can't turn. Shit wheels. And the concept is the same, both pump out noxious gases polluting our environment. Don't bring up shit like 'you're a filthy fucking hippy' because I'm actually an environment student.

[-] -1 points by MrDman (-57) 3 years ago

Ok you filthy fucking environment student....When mommy and daddy are done paying for your collage....You can walk to whatever job (If you get one that is) and then you don't have to worry about you making any noxious gases...

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 3 years ago

Get some help.

[-] -1 points by Dio1313 (69) 3 years ago

Well said.