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Anonymous Says: Take Back the Commons on MayDay!

Posted 11 years ago on April 29, 2013, 2:26 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: mayday, anonymous

Greetings World.

We are Anonymous. We hereby call forth this May 1st a Global Day Of Resistance. We call upon every person in the world, every city or town, every country; Unite, rise up - and take back the public commons from the oppressors. March in your streets, occupy public space - be free and reclaim your world. And stay. Become part of a world-wide "Global Spring". From Idle No More in Canada to the pro-democracy protesters in Bahrain), on May 1st let us shake the world and the very foundations of all power and authority.

Anonymous will use all the tools at our disposal to facilitate and encourage this Global Day of Awakening. We are tired of having activists around the world hunted, jailed - and abused. We are tired of watching our own fall. And so Anonymous will stand with our freedom loving comrades all over the world and in unity raise our fist to the sky and shout: We Are Not Afraid!

We Are Anonymous.

We Are Everywhere.

We Are Legion.

We Do Not Forgive.

We Do Not Forget.

Expect Us.

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Channel: #MayDay

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[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

"Workers From All Around The World Are Angry, Rising Up, And Protesting Today", by Joe Weisenthal :

''Thousands rally against European austerity in May Day protests", by Renee Maltezou and Clare Kane :

'''May Day march and rally in London'' :

Also see :

"Solidarity with workers around the world who are the backbone of their nations. No workers, no profit. No profit, no capitalists. Be proud! The struggle for fair wages, benefits and hours is a noble one. Never give up!" ['bw' @ O.W.S. forum]

SOLIDARITY @ WORKERS EVERYWHERE - 'you have nothing to lose but your chains' !!!

per ardua ad astra ...

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

http://MayDay.tk/ Take Back The Commons !!! Defy The 0.01% & their stinkling lackeys !! Viva OWS !

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 5 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

I'll be leaving in the morning for NYC

Unfortunately OTS didn't get it together to do anything as a group, but several of us will be hooking up with other groups like Immigrant Workers, Free University, The TWU,etc...and then all meeting at Union Square Park, followed by the march


[-] 4 points by Renneye (3874) 11 years ago

Today, I and many others, will have to be content to live vicariously through you...and when you come back, we want details!

Have a wonderful journey, Odin.

Love & safety be upon you.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Thanks Renny


[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Solidarity Odin & give them our love and best wishes mate :-) You are an inspiration. Be well and enjoy.

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 4 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

"Man gets tired, Spirit don't
Man surrenders, Spirit wont
Man crawls, Spirit flies
Spirit lives when man dies

Man seems, Spirit is
Man dreams, the beautiful Spirit lives
Man is tethered, tied, bound, Spirit is free
What Spirit is man can be (repeat)

He with body (?) he waged a fight
the body warn (?) and it walks upright
and then he struggled with his heart
and innocence and peace depart

Then he wrestled with his mind
and his proud heart he left behind
Now his wars on god begin
and on the stroke of midnight
God shall win - Oh God shall win (repeat)

Fear is a black tower built by man
brick by brick and deed by deed
it is the fuel on which our faint hearts feed
Love is just a whisper a breath and nothin more
but love will win
because love is coming from an endless store
Yes love is coming from an endless store (x 2)
Thats all you need

It aint why (repeat) it just is
Right now
If you runaway (repeat) I will follow
Swing low low low sweet chariot
oh coming for to carry me home"

Shadz: I've just been schooled. I'm speechless.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Thanx for the lyrics 'Ma' and very glad that you liked one of my all time favourite songs. I cut and pasted those lyrics where I could on 'Mayday LiveStream Chat' yesterday, so your effort above was re-used and well appreciated. Save the song link and hit play if and when you ever feel a li'l blue. Solidarity mate :-)

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 years ago

I appreciate the kindness. Saved and Listening again.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

You're ever the graceful interlocutor 'Ma' and therefore, both in compliment and solidarity :

pax vobiscum ...

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Thanks for printing up the beautiful lyrics

I'm going to listen to it again


[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Thanks shadz....having a free spirit can make up for a lot of what i may be lacking

There's an opening for my opponents...lol


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Consider : you don't have ''opponents'' only folk (& possibly fukwitz, lol) who inspire / provoke you to think bigger and better !! Also cross referencing here for The 99% :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 4 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

I try to keep my eye on the "bigger and better" picture while recognizing and knowing that the cumulative effects of all the little projects being taken on by so many Good People is what will comprise the new 'mosaic'....

And it will have an enormous potential, as more and more people awaken

It's very heartening for me to see all this, and like most of us here, I feel so fortunate to be able to play a small part in this uprising

Thanks for the 'par excellence' links...Sodlidarity


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Viva O.W.S. & Go Odin - doin' it for the the kids - and ALL of us !!! Love & Solidarity !! Viva The 99% !

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Thanks shadz. I returned home early this morning after having had a beautiful May Day in NYC . I have lots to reflect on.

For me, it started in Bryant Park where I met friends.... the TWU (Transit Workers Union) were returning from a march & where an Immigrant Workers Justice group gathered...then onto Union Square Park for the big gathering..... people & different groups streaming into the park all day before the march down Broadway to City Hall...then onto Foley Square for the OWS People's Assembly...then finally onto Washington Square Park for the dance party & OWS gathering...lots of good vibes...and sore feet too! lol

I marched with an Immigrant Rights group down Broadway, and the chant, which was led by a vibrant young Latina woman with an infectious smile is still ringing in my ear

Everywhere we go....people want to know....wh-o-o we ar-r-r-re....so w-e-e-e tell them-m.....We are the people....the mighty.... mighty people...fighting for justice...and our liber-ration


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Thanx for the smile inducing and simply excellent report back Odin. Probably a bit late to advise soaking your tired feet in a bucket of hot, salty water but I'm recommending it anyway, lol.

I took the day off and spent an eye wateringly long time on 'LiveStream' yesterday, starting the day with 'OccupyIstambul', who had it rough with their paramilitary cops ; then some time with 'OccupyMadrid' before spending the bulk of the day with 'OWS-GlobalRev' (see the 'LiveStream' tab next to 'News' on the site toolbar above), with Live Streams from NY, DC, Chicago, Oakland & Seattle.

There were many, many hundreds of thousands of people world wide, marching, protesting and partying too - a bit like you mate. Japan, Phillipines, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, Ivory Coast, ALL over Europe, Venuzuela etc., Etc., ETC. !!! The Corporate Whore MSM and various 'State Media' orgs. still refuse to correctly tell us The Real News, tho' some will creeps through their filters ... but thank goodness for The InterWeb !! Solidarity @ u, Odin !

Finally, I append a few links :

SOLIDARITY @ WORKERS EVERYWHERE - 'we have nothing to lose but our chains' !!!

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Your good advice must have filtered across the seas, but I went a bit further, and had one of my rare epsom salts bath which was pefecto!

I looked at all the May Day links above from around the world, and a lot more

Somehow seeing all the people out in the streets reminded me of Henry David Thoreau who wrote the renowned essay Civil Disobedience which influenced both Gandi and King

When Emerson went to visit Thoreau in jail for refusing to pay the poll tax in his protest of slavery, he asked him,

"Henry what are you doing in there?" Thoreau replied, "Waldo the question is, what are you doing out there?"

In that same light, if i were to be asked the question; What were you doing in the streets? I would answer with the famous quote which was on a handmade poster in the 1968 French uprising, because

"La beaute' est dans la rue"



[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Oui, mon ami - ''la beaute' est dans la rue'' - c'est vraiment :-) I really appreciated your thought provoking reply - especially after my somewhat energy sapping previous reply to a certain mutual ''friend'' of ours - [ http://occupywallst.org/forum/if-syria-does-have-chemical-weapons-and-has-used-t/#comment-967254 ] on that extremely singular thread, lol.

I've a stonking cold and a friend is due soon but before I have to go, I would like to strongly recommend the following link and my reasons for doing so will become very clear as you watch later at your leisure :

Good move on the Epsom Salts bath & I may have one of those myself as I grind through my cold here.

Solidarty @ u, yrs & OTS.

pax ...

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Replying here. Yes some of our "friends" can be quite 'wearing,' but rejoice in the fact that they are not your family members & 4 U the +'ed bonus of them not even being fellow countrymen....lol

I have been suffering the effects of a cold too, and that did slow me down a bit on MD, but just to be there amongst all those wonderful people....well...c'est vraiment fantastique

Seeing one of the only journalist 'worth his salt,' Bill Moyers interview Morello was a real treat... Thanks. Although I had heard him play during last year's S17 anniversary at Foley Square (S16), I had never seen him interviewed, hence I did not realize what a compassionate, intelligent young man of conviction he is. It's simply wonderful to know that so many people like him are in this struggle with us

While he was on stage singing this Land Is Your Land...., I was on the outskirts of the crowd handing out these beautiful 11"x17" posters, and yes singing along too...;-)



Although I know that she was tired in preparing for last year's anniversary, and maybe a bit nervous in this S15 interview at Washington Square Park, this young lady who has been a friend of mine for well over a year is exemplary of the kind of energetic, dedicated people that are near to the heart of this movement


I wore my new La Beaute Est Dans La Rue tee shirt with the image from the previous link/comment (printed by an Occupier for a donation) for the first time today

Solidarity shadz ~Odin~

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

O.W.S. is ''a call for a convergence on Wall Street, still the epicenter of the financial, political and environmental crisis, where still no one has gone to jail. They gave up even trying to bring charges against Goldman Sachs, the vampire squid, the bank so evil it gave capitalists pause. No charges.

''It’s a restatement of the fundamental reasons that the phrase “Occupy Wall Street” made so many people reply “Hell, yeah.” !

''It’s more than that. It’s the emergence of three clear priorities within the Occupy movement. They represent our impossible demands. OWS demands an end to corruption in politics. Of course, that would mean overturning the jaw-dropping Supreme Court fix known as Citizens United; it would mean abolishing the endlessly corrupt interface between corporations and legislators; it would mean regulating advertising and reinventing government by the people. So in the present system, to even make this demand is ... impossible. !!

''We demand debt abolition. Debt is the engine of financial capitalism from the payday loan, the high interest store card and the pawn shop that prey on the low- or unwaged, via the exploding disaster of mortgages and student loans, to the debt vultures who generate spectacular profit on debt. It is unthinkable to abolish debt in the present system, just as it was once unthinkable to abolish slavery. At the same time, it is increasingly clear that the current rate of exploitation cannot be sustained.

''Nowhere is that more self-evident than in the crisis of life, the environmental crisis. When you watch little kids play on the beach on a cloudy day in broad-brimmed hats, as in now standard practice in Australia to protect from the UV radiation, you know this has gone too far already. Our bodies feel out of sorts with the weather and strange new patterns. Crops dies in the fields for want of rain in one part of the world, while floods devastate elsewhere.

''For thirty or more years, the forces we call “Wall Street” have devastated the social, cultural and biological worlds with their theory of rational actors. In short, all actions are economic at heart and are calculated by each person for their maximum economic benefit. It is this theory of the rational that Occupy challenges as being patently false. It is irrational to sell politics to the most corrupt. It is irrational to have debt collectors pursuing one in seven Americans. It is suicidally irrational to treat the biological resources available to us as infinite.

“Free yourself” means you have the freedom to think for yourself and to do otherwise.''

[Excerpted from your excellent link to the 'beautiful poster']


Another slogan from 1968, Paris was ...''Be Realistic - Demand The Impossible'' !!!

Thanx for your excellent video linx & am again recommending 'Morello & Moyers' to all readers here :

Bet you look dapper in your cool-T. You just keep wearing it like you've been walking it and talking it ... y Solidaridad Siempre Compadre :-)

paz y luz ...

[-] 4 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

You encapsulated what Occupy is about extrememly well

We should never stay within the parameters of normalcy that 'they' have reset, and which defy the 'natural order' of human decency

'They' simply do not deserve our respect anymore

"Be Realistic - Demand The Impossible !!!

Or as another poster here put it to me "Keep Chasing Unicorns"and while I know that he does not mean it in a complimentary way, I wear his label as a Badge of Honor

I just got back from a meeting/lecture in NYC on Creative Direct Actions. The person who did the presentation was one DYNAMIC young lady

I mean WOW!...what CHUTZPAH!!

It's amazing to me, and so, so admirable, that this beautiful young woman could easily be living a cushy life with a couple of Mercedes parked in the driveway, but instead she has devoted a good part of her life to fighting for social and economic justice, and she has done so by incorporating it, into not only her love of theatre and bicycling, but also into her 'love of life' which comes through loud and clear

She came home early from her bike tour because of the birth of Occupy


She has been arrested most recently with other Occupiers for protesting the Spectra Pipeline. Here she is giving an interview at S16, and later you see her chained to a piece of heavy duty equipment


And she has come up with a unique way to protest mountain-top removal by bringing some of the dirt back to one of the banks who is finacing the operation. Here she is playing the accordion and singing with a couple of her co-conspirators...lol



And yes..you're right I do look quite dapper in my new revolutionary shirt...lol

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Re. the 'encapsulation of what Occupy is all about' above, I can't claim any credit whatsoever as I just took it almost verbatim from your link of the ''beautiful poster'' which you had been handing out on S17 :

Thanx for your interesting links about your interesting friend Odin and do note also that you - in your ''new revolutionary shirt'', are no less interesting and inspiring to most of the rest of us here too.

Encore, solidarite' mon ami et encore aussi - oui, c'est vraiment que ...

La Beaute' Est Dans La Rue ! Vive La Revolution !! Maintenant et Toujours !!!

[-] 3 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Yes factsy put up a good link there. It's just when........

Thanks shadz, I try to do the best I can, but that woman and people like her are inspirational,

And considering the negative consequences if we were to fail, it should be all our objectives to do a better job of progressing our revolution

I am not in the same class (Yet ;-) as Ms. Hunken, nor the young lady who has been the facilitator of these meetings over the last few months, and who I learned only the other night has been a leader for years in a great, radical organization called CODEPINK

"CODEPINK is a women-initiated peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to stop new wars and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities. CODEPINK rejects foreign policies based on domination and agression, and instead calls for policies based on diplomacy, compassion and a commitment to international law. With an emphasis on joy and humor CODEPINK women and men seek to activate, amplify and inspire a community of peacemakers through creative campaigns and a commitment to non-violence.


Yes Solidarity....Maintenant Et Toujours...Nu Och For Evigt..&..Now and Forever


[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Code Pink do great work & disrupted the NRA news conference during Wayne [The Stone!] LaPiere's Utter B-S following the Newtown, CT massacre :

Solidarite' mon frere et en avant - maintenant et toujours

And from the archives, DK @ DNC '08 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VLHNpwju0 - 'Wk-Up A' !!!

respice ; adspice ; prospice ...

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Replying here. I love the in your face style of Code Pink, and i am not surprised that this person has be a leader in NY's Code Pink for years

Overcoming your fears in going up against a rotten system that has propagated them, and has done its best to legitimize them is essential not only for struggle we are in, but also for your own personal health

I'm a work in progress...still at this age ;-)

Solidarite' mon frere et en avant...err Solidarity my new friend?? Maintenant Et Toujours


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

''Overcoming your fears in going up against a rotten system'' is indeed absolutely essential and we are ALL works in progress actually, mate & 'en avant' = 'forwards' / 'onwards' with a view to 'upwards' ~{:-)

That final link is an education in & of itself. Solidarity to you, yours, your good works, OTS and @ your temporarily tired limbs as you prep to go north and give 'em what for in Wasilla et al,lol ;-) Be well Odin.

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Replying here...good links...thanks. All of us here are the "hope," and we must do our best to propagate ourselves, and our beliefs

We know we are succeeding when more people start to question the twisted, inhumane 'norm,' and being a 'gadfly' becomes respected


Edited: Yes,...I leave for the God's Country in about three weeks to see my little hafita, first tho.. tomorrow leaving for Vermont to visit one of my Tenatious Trio....I fully expect chores to be waiting for me...so no respite for me..lol


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

You know you love the chores really, lol. No more links for you just a high five and a hug to say SOLIDARITY to you, 'The Tenacious Trio', hafita & all who know you. Safe journey out & happy homeward leg too. Be well, warm and aware - wherever you go. We did good work here. Thanx.

vade in pace ...

[-] 0 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 11 years ago

Replying here. yes i do like helping my kids out on different projects...a huge 2' deep x 10' long x 8' high shelving unit in my daughter's garage in AK last year....splitting 2 cords of wood for the daughter in VT last year..etc. ;-) Putting up cedar siding on my other daughter's cabin in AK the previous year. Err...i don't really get pissed.. if I can just lay about on the couch tho...lol

I talked to a very politically minded friend in VT earlier about Occupy, and to tell him i was coming up. I also told him to check all your posts and the links you put up as well as a couple good web sites like Truthdig and Truthout. And i had a great conversation about Occupy with my doctor today whose parents are from India. Once again I was amazed how another person was so understanding and supportive to the struggle we are in

I must admit though to becoming a 'consumer' today in ordering my little hafita a late birthday (2 yrs old) present, that i will hand-deliver to her....a National Geograhic globe that lights up!! Made in the USA

I just want to make sure that she grows up to be a worldly young woman that appreciates human life no matter where people live in the World

And in your honor, i will add Britain to one of the first places that i teach her on the globe. Where's shadzy live...hint ...?...bridges falling down... falling down..my fair lady lol

Thanks for the good wishes...Solidarity....~Odin~

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 11 years ago

Resistance is fertile,You will be assimilated!

[-] 1 points by gsw (3410) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 years ago

Get to may day local events.... don't become the soylant green formula

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 11 years ago

Classic sci fi


[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

"Corporate profits have risen almost 20 times faster than workers' incomes since 2008." Hmmmm. And, what of the general welfare of the people? Does the Constitution now say the government exists to promote the general welfare of the corporation?


[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

''What of the general welfare of the people? Does the Constitution now say the government exists to promote the general welfare of the corporation?''

That bears repeating as does the question who would stinkle you for such a clear, concise and cogent comment ? That's a rhetorical question of course, given the Corporate Trolls and PR Whores who seem to requent this forum, lol.

From your highly relevant link, copied here in its entirety :

''Corporate profits hit record highs in the second half of 2012, but that prosperity hasn’t led to the creation of jobs, since America’s biggest firms are sitting on stocks of cash instead of investing them back into the economy.

''At the same time, wages hit record lows, and corporate earnings are rising nearly 20 times faster than disposable incomes, the New York Times reports:

''As a percentage of national income, corporate profits stood at 14.2 percent in the third quarter of 2012, the largest share at any time since 1950, while the portion of income that went to employees was 61.7 percent, near its lowest point since 1966. In recent years, the shift has accelerated during the slow recovery that followed the financial crisis and ensuing recession of 2008 and 2009, said Dean Maki, chief United States economist at Barclays.

''Corporate earnings have risen at an annualized rate of 20.1 percent since the end of 2008, he said, but disposable income inched ahead by 1.4 percent annually over the same period, after adjusting for inflation.

''From 2009 to 2011, 88 percent of national income growth went to corporate profits while just one percent went to workers’ wages, and hourly earnings for workers actually fell over that time. And while they aren’t investing in job growth, corporations are also paying taxes at a rate that hit a 40-year low in 2011.''


Such bald faced avarice is outside the comprehension of most normal folk and indeed we could and should speculate as to the levels of psychopathology amongst The Parasitic 0.01%. More upliftingly :

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

"Co-production is based on five core principles. First is that people of all ages have something to give that is real and that those gifts should be recorded and valued. Second, what is commonly called volunteering should be honored as work. Third is reciprocity, that we give help and receive help. Reciprocity creates the awareness that we need each other and develops a "pay it forward" mentality. Fourth is social capital, which means we must invest in ways to bring people together and embed them in a support group in order to have lasting results. And fifth is respect, that everyone's voice is equal and that there must be ways to know when something is not working."

Sounds humane and sensible. I'm sure TPTB won't like it.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

''Humane & sensible'' is very far from the damaged and deranged minds of TPTB & ... ''You do not hear about the revolts happening across the United States because the corporate media does not want you to know that America is in revolt.'', from :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

"A popular resistance is developing throughout the nation; and the more the government fails to listen, the more the media fails to report it, the bigger the explosion of resistance will be."

Thanks for the uplifting article. It gives me hope.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

''Like a caterpillar now becoming a butterfly thrashing around in its old caterpillar cocoon to get out and fly, so are we awakening by our heads being held under the water, not by the loving hands of St John but by the strangling hands of the oligarchs who have been drowning us for years and years, and at last humanity has suffered enough and is determined to break free.'' from :

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Very Nice

And O So True - "TPTB won't like it."

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago
[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

In compliment - taken from: http://occupywallst.org/article/congress-still-corporate-still-criminal-still-capt/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (24845) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago


Try it you'll like it.

@FSCDems U R supposed to be supporting the Constitution - Not CorpoRAT Charters. U R supposed to be supporting the People ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (24845) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago


This is fun.

@FinancialCmte U R supposed to be supporting the Constitution - Not CorpoRAT Charters. U R supposed to be supporting the People ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

The Constitution does not state anywhere that we must have a capitalist economic system or that the general welfare of corporations must be promoted.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Hey BW and G-Day

The Constitution does not state anywhere that we must have a capitalist economic system or that the general welfare of corporations must be promoted.

Absolutely TRUE

That is why they are fighting so hard to keep their ( false) people status.

People support Move to Amend and all complimentary actions/groups like it. copoRATions ARE NOT PEOPLE !!!

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

I am amazed at the lunacy that some people will fight to defend.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

It all comes back to greed and what some will do to try and get a piece of the action.

In a way this reminds me of a Star Trek episode - the mobster planet. I keep expecting Kirk to beam in and demand the federation's cut of the action. (only wish it were fiction - a bad dream/nightmare ).

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

Correct, but without freedom of speech, we could never decide which economic system is best. It appears that ROBUST free speech must exist for the people to prevail over the corruption's that enable the destruction of vital elements.

Some native tribes had what can only be termed "spiritual capitalism". Having more material to give away made people powerful.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

That the Constitution does not state anywhere that we must have a capitalist economic system or that the general welfare of corporations must be promoted are pure and simple truths.

Native Americans, and most indigenous people around the world, for the most part, have had subsistence economies.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

Hmmm, subsistence. Is that better than extinction, is it either or . . . or can we control our consumptive impacts to see ourselves evolve?

Agreed, the constitution favors people over groups and w/economics, it favors real material value.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

Sorry, I don't understand the question. But, native Americans were no where near extinction until the capitalists arrived. There were several million on North America in the 17th century. Keep in mind that most of Africa rarely suffered from starvation until Europeans arrived.

Some good books about this are "The World and a Very Small Place in Africa" by Donald Wright and "When Jesus Came the Corn Mothers Went Away" by Ramon Gutierrez.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

I was questioning what evolution might consist of, beyond subsistence as compared to extinction.

It appears pandoras box was opened with technology/energy etc. Now we really have to control ourselves, and have vision to know what we are doing in the long term.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

The problem is that capitalism has no vision other than extracting profit at any cost.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 11 years ago

I think it might be worse than that, but yes, at any cost. It actually might be something else altogether and the "at any cost" serves that goal.

Capitalism as it is practiced has no long term vision. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution indicate long term principles,

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

NICE - Tweet - Thx.

Local Fights Against Austerity Are Growing Across the US http://truth-out.org/news/item/16266-local-fights-against-austerity-are-growing-across-the-us SEE ALSO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 11 years ago


[-] -1 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

Solidarity. Never forget the disgrace last year of your government tearing down your tents and taking your stuff and preventing you from peacefully protesting.

[-] -1 points by beautifulworld (23783) 11 years ago

LOL!! :)

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

In compliment : A simple message to share.