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#S17: NO to Politicians as Speakers at OWS Events

Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 9, 2013, 12:44 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: #S17, OWS, politicans

The very nature of a politician's job grants them a public forum. That is what they do--speak to and for the public (ie their constituents). They have access to it at their fingertips at any given moment.

The people (in this instance meaning non-elected officials) have to make their own platform. Thus the occupation. Thus the many brilliant and the many unrecognized struggles across NYC and beyond looking to deliver a message about the health and well being of their communities.

Of course, there are some important distinctions between the "you only rep yourself and not any group of folks" approach that the NYCGA took and the larger NGO and non-profit structures and culture of representation. And it can be/has been argued that various orgs and unions also have a platform given their access/members/funds/influence. Not ignoring that...but for the moment let's acknowledge the everyday platform that politicians have, as well as the generally ineffective way that many of them have put that access into play around OWS and bigger police brutality issues (barring recent work around Stop and Frisk--which would not have moved without strategic and consistent organizing).

We don't need to share space with politicians. They need to be pushed. Hard.

Politicians have a lot of people to placate/appeal to--if they can take small steps that don't cost them much that is GUARANTEED what they will do.

Being able to say "I stood with so and so and said some things about that important issue" will be enough for them to justify "movement" on an issue.

Which is clearly NOT enough.

This isn't about us vs. them, it's about role distinction. Let's not confuse the role of social change agents with those of social mouth pieces. Just like many of the bigger non-profits, politicians rarely step out and lead from a place of radical compassion. That's why we are here.

We have to teach them. We must must must inspire them to be better than they are.



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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

ALL Elected Duopoly Politicians are bought and paid for before they even get a chance to sell out !!! Do you want politicians on the platform ?!! Here are my suggestions : Cynthia McKinney; Dennis Kucinich; Ralph Nader; Jill Stein etc. ie. No Incumbents tho' call Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff & Cornel West too !

Two years & still rocking & sometimes 'rolling' (with the punches) but still in The Game, God Damn It !!! Nothing worth having ever came easy !! The Struggle Is Hard and The Struggle Is Long ... But Worth It !

For insights few if any politicians will ever give u, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgOTQ7D_lk It won't change our lives but it'll absolutely help to explain the lives we're forced to live and ways forward.

per ardua ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by jhecht410 (3) 10 years ago

"Nothin' worth having comes without some kind of a fight "Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight..."

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Thanx for the nice tune but somewhat more prosaically, please see :

''Forty years ago today, Salvador Allende's democratically-elected government in Chile was overthrown by a US-backed military coup.

''Under Allende's administration, the people in Chile tried to pursue their idea of a new kind of society: equal, free, and justice for all. The US government, bent on undermining the possibility of democratic socialism in its hemisphere, did its best to destroy that idea with low-intensity warfare, political and economic sabotage, and support for rightwing army leaders that wanted to overthrow the government.

''The brutal consequences of that coup remain one of the most glaring examples of the inhumanity of imperialism and since the violent overthrow remains a universal symbol of “anti-democracy at its best,” as the recently deceased author and filmmaker Saul Landau once put it, the anniversary should be taught and remembered in the United States, which played a decisive covert role in the events of forty years ago.''

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Oh shit you said the "D" word.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Dirty, Disgusting, Duplicitous, Deceptive, Dubious DemoCRAZY, DeMOCKERYcy - you mean ?!!!

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

They already have platforms on tv.

[-] 1 points by mideast (506) 10 years ago

Our leaders - david & charlie & rush & shawn & wayne have have led us to become a great political force - as the tea party took over a major Amrtican political party.

We must not let our enemies - inside the progressive political movement
(such as Elizabeth & Bernie) & .outside the progressive political movement ( such as OWS and MOVEON ) form a powerful team like we did

here's my tactic - go the the enemies' marches with a sign
[ W E W A N T F R E E D O M ]

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Thats a message I can support.

[-] 1 points by rgrwilliamsii (1) 10 years ago

Although I believe that our economic and political systems are broken, fatality flawed and require totally new systems, there are a few candidates that were/are fighting the good fight: Alan Grayson, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders. Is it fair to exclude these politicians who are the real heroes of the common person? Slippery slope argument is valid but...

[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5909) 10 years ago

If you do not chose to unite to make legal demands upon candidates


the politicians you chose to continue electing will continue to serve corporate demands with your electoral endorsement.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Those who work for private interests while in office.

It is not enough that they be removed voted out of office.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

And so We Protest ( this to get the public's attention )

And so we should petition ( this also to get the public's attention )

And so we should out those in government that are not working for the people. Showing where their support goes = The very wealthy ( surprise? why? many in office "are" the very wealthy ) the MIC, Fossil Fuel, wallstreet - Corp(se)oRATions in general. (this to educate the public)

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

a hole in crowd control

down in Cairo our allies rolled

with weapons we sold

10 Devastating Photos One Day After Egypt's Massacre