Portland Re-Occupies
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 3, 2011, 8:54 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Occupy Portland has reoccupied a new home. Marchers arrived at Shemanski Park at the corner of SW Park & Salmon around 5pm PST today and began setting up tents, canopies, and other infrastructure. Two police with batons arrived and threatened the crowd, but were shouted down by the jubilant Occupiers and eventually left. There is an open kitchen and live music on stage. As of 6:30pm PST, there were already over 20 tents set up.
There will be a General Assembly at 7pm PST. Occupy Portland is anticipating an eviction and encourages all supporters in the area to join them in peaceful, nonviolent solidarity tonight! You can also follow @OccupyPdx and @OccupyOregon on Twitter.
Like other occupations across the country, Occupy Portland has recently experienced police repression and was evicted from their original encampment. However, as in other cities, Occupiers have not allowed this to deter their efforts to protest economic inequality. In Portland, supporters have been organizing mobile flash mobs on bicycles to "bike swarm" banks. Meanwhile, Occupations in Los Angeles, Boston, and elsewhere marched today. In Philadelphia, Occupy Philly marched to proclaim: "You Can't Evict an Idea."
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Weird opening line in this, it's really distracting. How do you REoccupy a NEW home?
I was wondering if it's cold at the Oregon occupy. Here in NY is getting cold, and we can use some donated coats.
Why do you want donated coats. If you go to work, you can buy a coat.
Yes see we need the coats
Occupy Humanity
They hate your child before it’s born Counting day and plotting ways So vile are these people scorned Stealing dreams while making slaves What wicked place did they come from Where greed is honed until they’ve won There’s no redemption in their plight Let’s not go down without a fight Let’s take them down, their lofty heights Give back to man our HUMAN RIGHTS! KW-Bey 12-04-11
1% masters 99% slaves and 99 people can not take down 1 slave owner? time for a slave revolt
You speak for the dysfunctional, not the 99%. I am part of the 80 % who are contibutors to society. 10% have disabilities and 10 are just lay-a bouts. Where do you fit in?
part of 80% of the lowest paid
The point of what, illegally taking over a park? Wow, Occupy should be jailed for all the laws they break. Your perfect utopia won't ever exist in this country.
Yer right. Who is going to jail us? The 1%? Get real. There are 99 of us for every one of you.
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ows will be even more successful than we now imagine...the govs worldwide cannot afford $$$ continually man hrs/eqpt/court costs then the civil rights violation lawsuits....
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Umm...when is NYC going to reoccupy? Seriously....
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I think the Pacific Northwest is the vanguard of the American Revolution.
It may be more active, but like NY, it will be hard to spread outside the area. NYC, LA, San Fran and the Pacific NW are liberal enclaves. The rest of the country is mainly conservative.
conservatives want to join also, don't leave them out find a way to include them
More militant.
Militant liberal? Yeah, you are right.
I was a soldier stationed for a while at Fort Lewis, Wa. The only time I ever got to be out in that part of the world. (Vietnam days). I remember the anti war demos and pro Black Panther movement was more ready to rumble than New yorkers. I think it's the air, the Wobly history and that lots of people have guns.
Possible. It's important to understand that Oregon and Washington became hotbeds for alternative lifestyle proponents decades ago. It became the place to go for the metaphysical. Most of these city dwellers in the Pac NW do not own a gun. These urban people you are seeing. Not much different than Toronto or Quebec.
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be well, be safe, be smart, be strong - to my hometown of PDX !!!
YAYYYY!!! Camping is not easy here in NH this time of year but come spring its fresh air for me!
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Someone below posted this: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK
If the US Gov't remains silent and our cities become more violent toward Occupy - if the first amendment fails to wake up our country then we will be forced to rely on the second amendment.
NEVER FORGET, the 2nd paragraph of the US Declaration of Independence, it applies NOW!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
hey don't spread that around the masters won't like it time for slaves to revolt
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Democracy is a great thing! But capitalism will always destroy any democracy because it is based in greed and self consumption. The only way for democracy to ever flourish, is for a fair and even distribution of moneys and goods to every man, woman and child in any democratic state or country. To believe in that self consumption and greed mindset can make a society stronger makes the greatest fools of men!
I want a fair and even distribution of goods and services. I need someone to paint my house. Does someone have some time to spare?
As long as you do the same and even work for that person whod agree to thats the way things can change! Even though you are trying to be slick in the way you answered the question--in all actuality if person to person neighborhood to neighborhood we can begin to help each other for means other than pure profit and greed in taking advantage of each other than things can change!
I think by nature we are "fools", we compete and have a need to win at things. You don't have to agree at all with the tea party to see what it means, millions of people that don't want to pay tax for others. Not saying they are good or right, just that there are a lot of people that want to keep what they make. Socialism wouldn't work somewhere if a big part of the country opposed it. Total socialism hasn't worked anywhere.
I think like a lot of folks your thinking of socialism as communism. They are not close to being the same thing. In a capitalistic society if you stack the deck against hundreds of millions versus the few million who "keep" what they make. Those who are fighting for scraps in the street will do whatever they can for mere survival and will take it by force.(Not saying thats right either, but its a law of averages--put a person up against the wall where they are trapped and they will fight with everything in them to survive) Creating a large part of society that have to murder or steal for sheer survival is wrong. Just because a few (very few people) are born into it, or get extremely lucky (regardless of how people get their wealth, even by hard work its still ultimately who you know or being in the right place at the right time--like hitting the lottery) For a society to not have anarchy or a kind of civil war, those who have everything should understand what they are leading the world towards. What will their money mean then? Nothing--because when a system collapses then its too late.
I was thinking of the European countries that are going broke trying to cover everyone's needs, and yes the old USSR, China, that has greater economic inequity then the US, Cuba.
I don't see the truth in your statement that people here are killing and stealing to survive, in large numbers. There were something like 10.3 million crimes in 2010, less then 15000 murders. If you could take out the drug crimes and the crimes of simple greed you're not going to have that many offenders left that you could possibly say are committing crime to survive.
What I do see is people being told that their life would be made better if we took money from this 1% that are rich. Looking at the amount of money they have, and comparing it to what we do now with social programs, I realize the rich don't have enough money to pay for what we are doing now.
Thats where the Republicans have hurt us badly too! signing their pledge to Grover Norquist to not raise taxes under and circumstances has kept the system grinded to a hault. It has to be a combination of raising taxes and taxing the rich,(If you tax a person who makes a million dollars a year exactly 50% say, they still will bring home $500,000 a year which is by far more than many 30 families combined in the United States) Both the things needed to be done are up to the Republican Party to do, but because of immense greed and the "loyalty" to their party, that will be used against them during the next election--they are allowing the capitalistic system to be at a stalemate. The selfishness to that alone is quite staggering. They will adhere to a pledge that hurts the system they covet, yet will insure their own individual survival by raping the system over and over--as long as they get theirs I guess thats the important thing. The Soviet Union only started to suffer when the went to a capitalistic style of government. Not saying Communism is good at all! It gives the people no rights, but shelters, clothes and feeds them--so its sacrificing one thing for another. China was much the same--since they have gone to a system that is more capitalistic in its nature that gap has widened. They however have done this by not improving their peoples overall situation by not allowing certain freedoms to grow along with it. Thats the worst of all situations. I believe that as long as we keep all of our freedoms, and take care of each other through wealth distribution will be the greatest leap forward in the progress of mankind! It would be socialist in its money aspect, but capitalistic in its basic freedoms aspect. To capitalize as far and making the most of who we are as people is the most important thing I feel. When the aspect gets money gets involved--that has only poisoned our society--because its driven by the worst in us and thats the coveting of money and materialism.
Until you can convince people the tax money you are taking from them is doing something useful you'll get resistance. Everyone is greedy and selfish, there are people that cheat the system, collect disability and work off the books. There are people that get things from the government and complain they aren't given enough, but they produce noting. That's being selfish and ungrateful.
Russia slipped into famine when the small farms were collectivized under Stalin, yes the transition back to capitalism also caused problems, but communism wasn't working too well for them either. China has done better by allowing little bits of capitalism here and there.
The problem is always with the people. In every system people try to take advantage. It's in the nature of life to get the maximum reward for the least effort. In a socialized system that causes things to break down once people realize they will be cared for even if they don't put out and effort. Put another way the greed of the poor kills socialism. Was it Thatcher that said, "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money"?
The way things are whoever can convince a majority of the congress will get what they want. Currently it's the capitalists.
Your points on people using and abusing the system regardless of their finacial staus is a very valid one! I agree that there are those who abuse things such as the welfare sytem and it becomes ingrained in their family through generations, and needs to be overhauled drastically!! Also, like you said Congress is already bought by the corporations (capitalists) before they get into office. It doesnt matter if its a Republican or Democrat both are owned and are chosen as our choices because of that fact. Go ahead vote for whoever you want--it doesnt matter because we (Corporate America) owns them! As far as what Margaret Thatcher said about socialism I disagree with her. If a capitalistic society runs in fact to people spending and making the system run--nothing speaks to making the system run as to everyone having money to spend on goods and services. If there are only a few who keep gaining and gaining everything, they take it and hoard it at their disgretion to put into the system as they see fit, and for the few dollars an average person comes across in a capitalistic society, they can only spend it on the few basic things they need to survive (food, shelter etc) if they can even pay that. While I disagree with the Tea Party and what they desire--I whole heartedly respect their abilities to fight for what they want. And while my voice is behind the Occupy Wall Street viewpoint, I believe that the system is broken for both sides do to the fact that our political system is bought. If the Tea Party and Occupy groups can in my opinion begin nominating those in the camps and groups that are rising up in the United States can begin in those groups to elect officials they know are not bought (and hopefully wont be down the road) A new Republican field can be created representing the Tea Party, while a new Democrat field can come of the Occupy movement. If across the board we can create a whole new system of government for the people and by the people I believe America will reachieve its greatness! From top to bottom from the President and Vice President to a true group of Congresspeople and Senators, and down to our state and local leaders, we can create out of that a solid and true government that serves all peoples needs rather than just the corporations that run it. Due to the fact as long as groups have different viewpoints but can work together having a sense of a united purpose rather than self interests and corporate interests--we will as a country once again find our true path!
I've read similar opinions about occupy getting into politics, I agree with that. They are national and can run candidates for congress in many primaries. Offer support for laws regulating corporations. A much more effective action then just protesting.
A video showing the "WEALTH GAP" in the United States. Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tmZv1o5Ac
What's the point? Just looking at the US alone doesn't give us any reference point. Goggle World Income Inequality. As far as economic equality is concerned, it's better here then China and a couple of European countries, a little worse in some of the others, including Russia. Some of the European nations with greater economic equality are in very poor financial shape. Can we improve? Of course we can but inequity seems to be a fact of life and occurs in all systems of government.
I saw the comment below and looked at world inequities. There is a gap in the US but it's not much worse then many other developed countries. Also, in light of the comment about capitalism vs socialism, The socialist countries are experiencing the same thing. We can tax people more, but we'll never get equality.
Peace and Love to my sisters and brothers in Portland Oregon tonite! My heart and soul are with you all. Stay safe and warm. Namaste'
The revolution continues worldwide!
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK
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That is beautiful, we love Occupy Portland and we are all excited about 12/12. I wish I could visit there; I've been to 4 different Occupy camps here in California. This crackdown on all our camps is a base act from a debased State.
At Occupy Oakland, we are trying to set up a vigil for Oscar Grant and other victims of State violence, but the police will not allow us to set up any structure at night even for the purposes of a vigil. Now they are telling our Inter-Faith Council, made up of Priests and Rabbis and Imams and elders of the Native Peoples, that they cannot set up a canopy in the park during the day. I guess they say it is a "blight" or something like that.
Yes, folks, free speech is a "blight" on the nation's pretty parks. It's come to the point where their main argument against us is that we somehow damage commerce, and our fellow citizens in the 99% seem to accept this message as if they're all fucking brainwashed into thinking money is more important than freedom. But it couldn't be that they really think money is better than freedom, could it? Can we contemplate that America? Because it seems like we live in it, doesn't it?
Thank you Portland!......:)
Keep it going as long as you can.
Does having a point or a purpose ever enter into it?
If you don't understand what the point is by now, what are you doing on this forum?
But that's what makes mocking OWS so easy It's about protest itself. Keep "it" going. I understand that OWS doesn't have a point, just like you.
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