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Retribution Against the Financial Elite

#OWS holds Action Council and Spokes Council Tonight!

Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 3:19 p.m. EST by carbonogram

There are two councils happening tonight:

  • The Spokes Council will be at 56 Walker Street at 7PM (2 blocks south of Canal between Broadway and Church St). We hope to do some assessment in our groups of were we are now and where we want to be going.

  • The Action Council focused specifically on actions for tomorrow (N17) will be at 8PM tonight on the 19th floor of the UFT Building at 52 Broadway. The meeting is for affinity groups planning for tomorrow. Groups new to the planning are asked to come to an earlier Non-Violent Direct Action training from 4-6 or 6-8 at the same location, prior to the Action Council.

Those of you coming to neither -- it would be great to keep up the spirit of solidarity in the park and in front of the jail.

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[-] 4 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

The entire Occupy movement should come down to DC and camp in Anacostia Park, site of the original Bonus March Encampment in 1932. Do what the Bonus Marchers did. Set up a clean, formal encampment. I'm sure there are enough sponsors who will pay for potties and showers.

Then, every day, all those at the encampment should get up at 6:30 a.m. and march down Maryland Avenue to the Capitol and spend the day visiting their Senators and Representatives. Every day until they get something done, like a nationwide Section 8 subsidy program so that everyone pays no more than 1/3 of their monthly income for housing.

Let's get organized, Fellow Workers!

[-] 1 points by Korpocalypse (23) 2 years ago

we should only take a trip to DC to change our politicians minds by visiting them if every time we want to change our politicians minds we take a visit to DC and visit them. Also, politicians respond better to huge paychecks from the 1% than they do to visits from the public. There's no point in going along with the system when it doesn't work. It needs to change. get the message out and rally everyone, don't waste your time with politicians

[-] 0 points by quercus (93) 2 years ago

agree, the bonus march encampment of 1932 needs to be known, re-enacted, made real to the now generation. the better, if veterens define the issues: the military-industrial complex; the political-economics of the V.A.; what part macarthur - patton 'heros' played??? a few questions, to be made real, as demonstrated, re-enacted as patriots do.

[-] 0 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

right on. do me a favor and "like" my comment, so it will rise up in the list and be seen by more people

[-] -1 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

OldLeftie - You already know that I "like" your comment. LIKE hardly describes my the elation I feel.

[-] -1 points by quercus (93) 2 years ago

i aplogize, i do not know the algorithms - rules of this site, i am old school. i am not literate to the new school communications paradigm.[ + ]; [-]; up,like; down,dislike, click, reply; permalink, etc, ; perhaps, is the new 1% punch-card talk, google-speak, yahoo-laugh. the sad-double speak of. ambivalence-irony-cynicism.

the point i would like to ask: is this site capable of [ ] out side - the box of hierarchy[worse,bad,good,better,best]???

[-] -1 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

One of the best ideas I have seen posted here yet. Way to go and an idea I can support.

PS I own a four-plex here in the Southwest. Man 1/3 or most tenants monthly income for their housing would be a monumental boost to the amount of rent I can get now.

You sure got my interest with that one.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

I can't imagine that. You mean to say that your rents are less than 1/3 of your tenants' monthly income? How much are your tenants making a month that gives them so much that they're paying less than 1/3 of it in rent, and where would they go if you raised the rent? As far as I know, there is no place in the US where rents are less than 1/3 of their respective population's monthly income for anything decent enough to reflect the lifestyle of the tenant. I mean, a person making $500 per week would have to be paying less than $700/month for their apartment. So you're saying that you're charging less than $700/month (presuming your tenants are making $500/week or more) and you can't raise your rents because your tenants could find comparable housing elsewhere for less?

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

DUDE - you may be Old but you really need to get out more. The going rate for a brand new 2bd apartment here is about $600-650 per month regardless of how much you make.

I DID NOT make any mention of raising the rent and have no intention of doing so. Your post implied that everyone would pay 1/3 of their monthly income for their housing and I simply stated that that is a great idea.

That would push my rent far above $650 per month for all of my tenants and I would be the do-nothing beneficiary. I have a tenant in one unit now that works at the power plant for $57.00 per hour and I would gladly let him pay me 1/3 a month in rent. If I figured it correctly, that would e $3,296.39 per month.

In response to your question about where they would go, they would probably go to a 2-bd apartment renting for $430.00 per month.

Your world is WAY too small.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

well, although I am happy you like my idea, it would not require anyone to pay 1/3. It would only allow for a subsidy if one's rent was greater than 1/3. And therefore, unless you chose to raise your rents, knowing that the government would be subsidizing the increase, your local market would still control. So, you could try to "game the system" if you wanted to destroy the experiment, or you'd have to continue to receive the market price.
I hope that doesn't sour you on my idea. I won't be surprised if it does, just disappointed.

Oh, and if there are apartments renting for $430/mo as good as yours, how is it that you're getting higher rents for yours? Just askin'...

and while you're at it, how about telling me approximately where you live? If rents are that cheap, I might just move there myself....

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Location, Location, Location

And if in case you have not gotten out to the Great American West, our areas as serving as major routes for your drugs.

All it takes is for one Cartel member to move in next door and your whole neighborhood is shot - no matter how new or nice your building is.

Do you have the same problem where you live, Just askin' - if not, you will.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

perhaps, but still, you know how difficult it is to believe you under the circumstances. So why don't you tell me what city you live in, so that I can verify the rents?

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Hey - just wrote a whole post and then got a "system malfunction" message when I tried to post, so will retype it here.Man - read my message to you. I pull a leg now and then to get someone to think outside their box, but I don't BS or kick cowpies.

No shame whatsoever here - I told you the truth and every word was just that. You see, we live in different parts of the country - you got your standards and I have mine.

I work hard, I treat people right, I go to church on Saturday evenings, because the place is too crowded on Sunday and I love life.

I regret that you misunderstood me. That does not mean that we aren't friends - just that we really didn't know each other very well to start with. If you have been reading my Coffee Shop posts on here, you would pretty much know where I am from and my philosophy of life. Happy Thanksgiving to you too. We will be home with the kids and grandkids, my brother, and probably a handful of others who may not have anyone to share with on that day, including a lady from your neck of the woods who is a traveling nurse here on a three month assignment with no family in the area.

And I do feel bad about this, please forgive me.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Please post your mailing address and I will forward a State published fact sheet regarding rents in all cities and towns in the whole state.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

Not sure which council would handle this but you need to bring this up

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-can-we-contain-this/

[-] 1 points by classynancy (-73) 2 years ago

Temperature check this.... A spoke council sounds a lot like an oppressive control wing of your little band of commie boy scouts. Pretty soon you will need to have more high level control just like a real governing body because that's what's required to run a group of individuals. By the way, how are those capitalist t-shirts selling, thank heavens for the free market enterprise system you dorks.

[-] 0 points by Vooter (441) 2 years ago

Meanwhile, you'll be watching "American Idol" and drinking beer, like the lazy, standard-issue, talentless coward you are...enjoy your waste of a life! LOL...

[-] 1 points by classynancy (-73) 2 years ago

Point of order... No consensus was reached, but american idol was super fab last night and my miller lite beer tasted soooo goood. I had to dislike your post with all ten fingers wiggling downward. I'm so lazy and stoned I almost couldn't raise my arms.....

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Ahhhhhhhhh classynancy - You know I am from out West. OK if I bring my own Coors ----- it's that mountain spring water you know.

[-] 1 points by classynancy (-73) 2 years ago

Maybe you could take the Coors Light silver bullet train!

Besides, I'm thinking of switching to Bloody Mary's, I hear that pepper puts a great kick in the drink, lol!

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

I you get the stomach for it - try T with the worm in it.

[-] 1 points by classynancy (-73) 2 years ago

Tried it back in college....never again unless it's in a Margarita...

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Thanks - I love your humor and I love Mexican food, Margarita or not.

I can see turkey tacos and ench's coming up soon.

[-] 1 points by classynancy (-73) 2 years ago

I've got a great recipe for turkey ench's! That's a great idea! Lovin your humor too, wish that a few of the other people here were not so serious....

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Me too. I am afraid that Harold Camping is going to return when he sees all this doom and gloom and lead them all over a cliff.

Hey, Nancy - Red, Green or Christmas??

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

I am going to watch Rachel on MSNBC, drink some fine wine with a little caviar and a handful of saltines, then so throw up in the toilet.

Call me later classynancy, a beer actually sounds pretty good right now.

[-] 0 points by wassup (-4) 2 years ago

FYI...In my training of pepper (OC) spray, there are two types, oil base and water base. with oil, you cannot use water to wash it off. it stays on your face and when the effects are over, when you take a shower later, water will re-activate it. Water base will wash out with water. What they told us was to always cary a bottle of baby shampoo to wash it off in case we spray ourselves. I was lucky enough to never need to use baby shampoo on myself, but that is what I was told in OC Spray training. FYI

[-] -1 points by samplocracy (26) 2 years ago

london occupy movement has just started its own spokes council this week... good work ny..... i've just set up a blog about direct democracy... have a look if you want... samplocracy.wordpress.com

[-] -1 points by LastWaltz (115) from Medford, NY 2 years ago

I wish I would of known about this meeting earlier. There will be a small group coming from Occupy Long Island tomorrow. Will these meetings be online?