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No War, Not Now, Not Ever

Posted 9 years ago on Aug. 31, 2013, 1:14 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: obama, syria, assad, war

The “No War With Syria” movement denounces the complete disregard of the government of the United States for the will of the American people as reflected in the government's decision to start yet another war. The movement in no way support the actions of the Assad regime, but we recognize that US intervention will instigate more violence and suffering in Syria. As the U.S. is already hurting from a recession and perpetual wars, becoming involved in Syria will only create further destabilization in the Middle East and strip the people of the United States of desperately needed resources. The “No War With Syria” movement recognizes that the only the American people can stop U.S. intrusion in the Middle East, just as only the people of the Middle East can stop their own internal struggles.

We call on everyone to join us in saying no to yet another U.S. invasion. We recognize that peace cannot be reached through bombs, drone attacks, and murder; peace is created through compassion and forgiveness, which must come from within. Please join us as we gather across the country to begin a campaign to stop the United States government from invading Syria.

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[-] 10 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank You OWS. Big success in Parliament------We must do the same in Congress.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

''Is Attacking Syria Necessary For US National Security ?'', by Glenn Greenwald :

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Leaving Out Assange Who Exposed US War Crimes, Trump Pardons The Blackwater Guards Jailed for Massacring Iraqi Civilians" by Jake Johnson:

NB "While US Army contractors convicted of massacring civilians in Iraq are pardoned, the man who exposed such crimes against humanity, Julian Assange, rots in Britain's Guantanamo." Also consider

fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"US Intelligence Community, Flouting Laws is Increasingly Involving Itself in Domestic Politics"!

caveat!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

So "Are the motives of War Profiteers .. driving us to the brink of a New Cold War?!" - by Wm. Rivers Pitt:

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

Consider that "The Iraq War Exposes the West’s Ukraine Hypocrisy" by Andrew Murray:

Re. 19th March 2022 "On this day in 2003, the Iraq War began. It was an illegal invasion in

the same mould as Putin's war in Ukraine but almost two decades later - its architects have

faced no consequences."

respice et adspice!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 6 months ago

The invasion of Iraq was likely due to a failure of intelligence because Saddam Hussein was faking it that Iraq possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction ( also the language and culture of Iraq weren't well linked to the U.S. at all -- how many capable U.S.-trusted translators of Arabic were there available to U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001? Not many ! I have my estimate but I suspect that it was actually classified information at the time. Which U.S. schools offered Arabic ? Even if we had foreigners who understood Arabic, did we Americans trust them if they weren't White enough or "pale, male, and Yale" enough ? I thought that there was something very weird or absurd going on when Saddam Hussein was accused of hiding WMDs below his palace or when [face-centered-crystalline-structure] aluminum and not special [body-centered-crystalline-structure] steel-alloy tubes were found for usage in gas centrifuges.) Saddam Hussein successfully fooled U.S. that Iraq had WMDs. In a different vein, Poo-tin's invasion of Ukraine was well warned in advance. Of course, many Ukrainians and Russians disbelieved Western Intelligence. I understand that Ukrainians and Russians are indeed "brothers" but I also know that I had destroyed my Big Brother's huge tropical-fish aquarium with an angry jerk of my leg at the tank upon hearing his unappreciative words and false accusation. Brothers are brothers but anger knows no bounds. Avoid becoming angry in the first place. Poo-tin's facial expression was angry in the video recording regarding the Ukraine separatist regions. I wasn't just staring at his lips or hearing what he said.

Obeying Star Fleet's Prime Directive is important. My Big Brother upgraded my tropical-fish keeping to a whole new level after all of my guppies had died out after years of keeping them but that caused a problem with my ability to maintain the huge aquarium's living conditions and he had stocked it with more expensive varieties of tropical fishes than my old guppies. I "won" by never having to keep any tropical fishes at home again but did I really "win" ? I fell into the trap of intervention "owning his tropical fishes."

In another instance, my Mom's dismissive city-girl attitude about the serpentine deities living in Dad's ancestral chieftain dwelling caused a major familial disaster and more, plus a curse ( if she didn't understand them, she shouldn't have messed with them.) I therefore favor the stronger peoples' adopting a conservative bottom-up attitude. Avoid shoving things down weaker peoples' throats but offer help once they realize that they want assistance. An open society's good for information exchange (гласность) and good governance so that peoples can see how things truly are in other countries and may choose to change for the better. For example, we hated all Japanese goods but our neighbors' electric rice cookers convinced Mom that unattended and perfectly cooked rice was worthwhile to breach sanction against swords-to-scissors plowshare Japan.

The Russian Orthodox Church can tell the Russian parents whose conscripted children would never come home that God greatly favored them for their liberating work walking with God in Ukraine, just as Enoch did, that God took them away so that they would never taste death and live with God forever more. Since biblical time long long ago, only Poo-tin's loyal subjects in special operations have ever been accorded this honor. Poo-tin will want them to visit Ukraine's holy bomb sites where their children's souls had ascended to Heaven by the mighty arms of God. If they should find the bodies of their children in a bomb crater, tell them that their children have been chosen for a mission to the underworld as Jesus was. If there be bloody holes on their children's bodies, tell them that in order for their children's souls to be released from the bodies, God arranged to have holes punctured there and there to free the souls to ascend to Heaven. I understand the power of White Lies. My Mom was coded DNR by her doctors. What can I really say in order to avoid piercing her own optimistic prognosis ? Everyone is going to the same coded-as-DNR place anyway so I didn't pierce her bubble, saying nothing about the [probable-only] truth. It's "the pursuit of happiness" for a little while longer. White people should go to Whites' hospitals and Black people should go to Blacks' hospitals, etc. due to misinterpreting cultural cues used in coding people. Voluntary Apartheid helps save lives. Wealth has its privileges but only in the correct cultural context. In Red China for example, an admission to a hospital requires the accompanying certification of the potential patient's bank's proving that the patient has enough money in the bank to pay for the hospital stay. In cross-cultural hospital stays, people can be coded for death without their consent. Also remember this if one goes to prison. Hello, Cheatose(R), find an orange prison with no apples, just in case. Deglobalization and deintegration are underway.

The Chinese Arctic, Chinese Far North, and Chinese Far West will be "recovered" by a "special operation."

The American Far West can offer N.A.T.O. westward expansion due to Red China's objection to N.A.T.O. eastward expansion.

I predict that an actual expansion in Red China will be coming from Winnie the Pooh's waistline from eating HUNиy. In my adolescent days in Hong Kong, there was a "[too many] people [already]" problem there. Almost everyone who wanted to leave could leave without governmental hindrance. There's a problem, though. Which countries on the receiving ends would accept the people leaving Hong Kong ? Dad had extremely long-ago connections with the U.S. dating back to around WWII time so emigrating to the U.S. was a logical option. His children already knowing British English made our transition to American English fairly easy. One of his decades-old U.S. friends sent their child to Hong Kong to live with us for a fairly long vacation so we learnt of the up-to-date conditions of the U.S. Emigrating to the U.S. later on was thus an educated gamble. My Big Brother was also saying that Hong Kong would undoubtedly revert to [Red] China's control so our choice of nationality would have to be made sooner or later. Mom knowing CCP reforms' results concurred { her frigid arm squished my warm baby-head }. I was a bit unnerved by what the young man'd told me of his having to strip stark naked for his swimming class in school. I was neither ancient Greek nor American. Skinny-dipping wasn't a quirk; it was institutionalized for boys in U.S. 》Gymnasium《 as U.S. was obsessed with pale clean skin, race & hygiene. Do you see why I didn't strip stark naked for swimming class ? Yeah, what about the girls ?! Don't they have an even bigger hygienic problem going swimming clothed ?

My H.K. Queen Elisabeth School pioneered tearing down gender barrier. Decades later, it's knocked down in my U.S. high school (》Gymnasium 《 <gumnos/naked). The U.S. one was traditionally male-only having gone "coeducational" shortly before I arrived. I think that the girls in my U.S. school believed that the newly opened-to-female schools were "better." There was ¿facility problem? in my college for exercising gender-specific bodily functions. However, I doubt that most families have gender-segregated toilets+bathrooms ( because that requires at least two bathrooms; kitchens and bathrooms incur high construction costs due to the utility wiring, fixtures, and plumbing; high costs lead to rarity ) so I'm not much disturbed by a "unisex" bathroom which I had experienced, unlike some people who are obsessed with this to enshrine legal restrictions in heavily contested laws.

Russia should offer its citizenship to everyone in Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea and return all three to Ukraine. This will let people divest and move to Russia which needs people. E.U. worked this matter out very well until Brexit. The U.S. is tighter integrated than the E.U. Any U.S. state's citizen can become a different U.S. state's citizen by moving their primary residence, amongst other methods.

There is only one American Military for operating outside of the U.S., not fifty state militaries. There are individual state National Guards which generally have restricted domains of operation, primarily in their own state and for emergency safeguard, rescue, and supply missions ( there is a provision federalizing them which JFK had used in integrating schools in the Deep South to allow Blacks' attendance at federalized gunpoint; it was extremely brave because otherwise the National Guards took commands from their state's segregationist governor; if they didn't agree to be federalized, JFK could've sent in the U.S. Military to quell the state's rebellion; the U.S. Civil War began in 1860 with a state attacking federal troops.) The U.S. President can act very promptly sending the U.S. Military abroad because in the short term, he exclusively controls their supreme command.

The Swiss who had copied the U.S. federal-state governance structure after their extremely brief days-long civil war didn't go for having an extremely powerful presidency. They had a small council representing their cantons instead so they may react a bit slower than the U.S. ( which is fine because the Swiss aren't policing most of the World; U.S. is analogous to Switzerland as far as geographical security features are concerned; Switzerland is high up the Alps and U.S. is an ocean away, from fractious and quarrelsome Europe; neutrality had long been the dominant policy doctrine for both, providing centuries of domestic peace to breed prosperity, but emerging Medieval-in-outlook Military Japan attacked U.S. which had "annexed" American Far West { Okinawa [Taiwan] and Guam are its islands; an Ohio-class leviathan was lurking there when Cheatose(R) masturbated his ¿Biglier? Red Button } so it had interests in China to protect ) but are not easily hacked using yellow journalism for Cheatose(R), the orange rooster, by newly anointed D.P.R. Rustia.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

Your "Words of Mass Deception" are just like U$A's WMDs re.Iraq and everything else and your 10+ Paragraphs of total horse $H!T with N0THING rational to fkn say about anything are exactly as we can expect from U; U fkn useless, self-referential, narcissistic moron! EVERYTHING U think U know about ANYTHING - is probably totally wrong!! U shit-spewing dolt!!!

Ergo, prior to any reply - please go explore the evidence here below & then, go and rethink your whole approach to things on this forum . . .

which starts with --- "The Cold War, from 1945 to 1989, was a wild Bacchanalia for arms manufacturers, the Pentagon, the CIA, the diplomats who played one country off another on the world’s chess board & the global corporations able to loot & pillage by equating predatory capitalism with freedom.In the name of national security, the Cold Warriors, many of them self-identified liberals, demonized labor (& unions), independent media, human rights organizations - and those who opposed the permanent war economy and the militarization of American society, as soft on communism. That is why they have resurrected it."

And ends with: "It is an imperative that we must be better, do better. We owe it to the future. Gather our courage & although difficult - be prepared to speak and act against what is plainly wrong if we have any semblance of conscience within us!"

per aspera ad iudicium - et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Furthermore grapes, tho' only IF your self-absorbed li'l brain can actually handle it - also try to consider:

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Noam Chomsky on --- "the worsening threat of nuclear warfare, how to end the war in Ukraine, the self-justifying myths propagated by imperial powers, why the Global South finds American moralizing laughable, and more ... "

from which - "So I’m not criticizing Zelensky; he’s an honorable person and has shown great courage. You can sympathize with his positions - but you can also pay attention to the reality of the world. And that’s what it implies.I’ll go back to what I said before: there are basically two options:One option is to pursue the policy we are now following, to quote US Ambassador Freeman, to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. And yes -- we can pursue that policy with the possibility of nuclear war. Or we can face the reality that the only alternative is a diplomatic settlement, which will be ugly—it will give Putin and his narrow circle an escape hatch. It will say, Here’s how you can get out without destroying Ukraine and going on to destroy the world.

and: "We know the basic framework is neutralization of Ukraine, some kind of accommodation for the Donbas region, with a high level of autonomy, maybe within some federal structure in Ukraine, and a recognizing that, like it or not, Crimea is not on the table.You may not like it, you may not like the fact that there’s a hurricane coming tomorrow but you can’t stop it by saying, “I don’t like hurricanes,” or “I don’t recognize any hurricanes.”That doesn’t do any good. And the fact of the matter is every rational analyst knows that Crimea is, for now, off the table.That’s the alternative to the destruction of Ukraine and nuclear war.You can make heroic statements if you’d like about not liking hurricanes, or not liking the solution. But that’s not doing anyone any good."

per aspera - ad iudicium?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

"Chomsky: Our Priority on Ukraine Should Be Saving Lives - Not Punishing Russia"! ... with C. J. Polychroniou:

from which: "Our prime concern should be to think through carefully what we can do to bring the criminal Russian invasion to a quick end &, to save Ukrainian victims, from more horrors. There are unfortunately many who find heroic pronouncements to be more satisfying, than this necessary task. NOT, a novelty in history, regrettably. As always - we should all keep the prime issue clearly in mind and act accordingly"!!!

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax et per aspera ad iudicium!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Note "Talks to End War in Ukraine Are Collapsing as US Seeks Regime Change in Moscow" Nina Khrushcheva at DemocracyNow!

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 days ago

"A War on the Earth?! via https://tomdispatch.com/

"In so many ways, you still wouldn’t know it - not, that is, if you focused on the Pentagon budget or the economic growth paradigm that rules this country and our world -- but this planet is in a crisis of a sort humanity has never before faced.Whether you are even considering heat in the American West, floods in Pakistan, the drying up of the Yangtze River in China, record drought in Europe, or the unparalleled warming of the Arctic, we are, as scientists have been pointing out (& ever more of us ordinary people have noted) - in an increasingly, “uncharted territory of destruction.” In the process, ever more climate “tipping points” stand in danger of being passed as the overheating of this planet becomes the stuff of everyday life.

"And sadly despite all that,Vladimir Putin’s Russia brutally invaded Ukraine,ensuring the release of yet more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere as among other things,various European countries were forced to turn to greater coal use. Meanwhile the U.S. & China, the 2 largest greenhouse gas emitters, are now heading into what’s being called, without the slightest sense of irony, a “New Cold War.” In the process & responding to House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s decision to visit Taiwan,China recently suspended planned climate talks between the two countries.

"Today - TomDispatch regular Stan Cox, the author of - "The Green New Deal and Beyond: Ending the Climate Emergency While We Still Can", explores just what it means, in climate terms, for the U.S., no matter the administration, to pour ever more taxpayer dollars into the Pentagon & the rest of a national security state. Yes, it’s long been a commonplace to claim that war is hell (and if you don’t believe that, just check out the nightmare in Ukraine right now).One thing should be ever clearer sadly enough; that way of life is now all too literally the path to hell. Let Cox explain." IN ...

Now please go & consider "A Big Carbon Bootprint and a Giant Sucking Sound in the National Budget"!

per ardua ad iudicium et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 days ago

"Climate Change is the only story that matters."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a41355745/hurricane-fiona-climate-change/

"Last week, the remnants of Typhoon Merbok slammed into hundreds of miles of Alaskan coastline. There was no ice to slow it down and most of the permafrost was gone, so the heavy rainfall made the earth unreliable. Houses came off their foundations. One was spotted sailing down a river until it snagged on a bridge. The typhoon came ashore with the strength of a tropical storm, if not an actual hurricane. From Alaska Public Radio:"

"National Weather Service climatologist Brian Brettschneider described the storm on Saturday as the “worst-case scenario.” Forecasters had predicted earlier this week that it could be one of the worst storms to hit Alaska’s western coast in recent history. And it was. “In some places, this is clearly the worst storm in living memory,” said University of Alaska Fairbanks climatologist Rick Thoman. Hundreds of people across multiple communities are sheltering in schools, which are serving as emergency evacuation centers. In some communities, local leaders’ early actions helped residents do what they needed to move valuable vehicles and boats to higher ground. In other communities, the storm overwhelmed efforts. “This is the first time I’ve seen it this bad,” said Alvina Imgalrea in Chevak. In Napakiak, Job Hale said, “It’s just a lake everywhere.”

"The climate crisis has taken away all of Alaska’s natural defenses, so now it takes the full fury of storms that in earlier days would never have made landfall intact. They would have expended themselves on the frozen sea or shattered on the rock-hard earth."

And "Low income countries bear the brunt of climate change."

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/low-income-countries-bear-brunt-of-climate-change-149163589931

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 months ago

There are more important things than money. Americans have always been struggling ( for the four freedoms: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want, and the freedom from fear; my Dad was enlightened by the comfort of having running hot water at a sink/washbasin of a public toilet ). The U.S.A. needs to protect the rule-based global order which has ushered in unprecedented postwar prosperity in U.S.A.-dominated/underpinned parts of the world: Japan, Netherlands/Germany, and Hong Kong, each having seafaring capabilities for handling cheap cargo-container surface-ship freight transportation for global trades. Trading is often highly profitable but not always available ( because there must be a reason for the ships to stop there e.g. in Sri Lanka to trade; in aviation, for example, why did I fly to Alaska to get to New York to immigrate to the U.S. in the early 1970s ? The Boeing-707 didn't have the range to fly from Tokyo to New York nonstop; Fairbanks' airport in Alaska was a one-man show: a "gas station attendant" refueled the airplane; there was no Immigration-and-Naturalization-Service personnel there in the airport to check us in onto U.S. soil; why do more flights to Alaska nowadays land in Anchorage instead of Fairbanks ? Does the closer connection to the U.S. mainland and the trans-Alaskan Pipeline Systems' terminus make refined aviation fuels cheaper and more available in Anchorage than Fairbanks due to the existence of the seaport of Anchorage ? No matter what one looks at in depth, the maniacal Supreme Artist's signature "alpha" is there; Money talks in economic matters: money doesn't make the World go round; it makes people's minds spin around; as "youth is wasted on the young" -- George Bernard Shaw, so wealth is wasted on the rich.)

In my opinion, other countries often misunderstand the U.S. while pointing out the hypocrisy. Well, I got an understandable answer from someone. The U.S. isn't being hypocritical -- it's struggling. It's huge, diverse, infighting, and always "struggling." He asked me whether I would like the U.S.A. to be non-idealistic and always be consistent in words and deeds so "that's the way it was; that's the way it is; and that's the way it shall be."

The U.S. is always changing and evolving. That's why the U.S. is often a dominant trendsetter country. We surely have many idiots and fools but my Mom used to say, "Wise people came from the fools who had become experienced." The more foolish experiences one has had and if one is retrospective enough, the more one becomes wise. Many of the now dominant U.S. technology companies are very young. For example, do people still remember MySpace(R) or Obama's Blackberry(R) device ? Exxon Valdez oil-spill disaster in Alaska near Anchorage taught U.S. oil companies under U.S. government to use double-hulled oil supertankers for carrying crude to the U.S. mainland. Life can be a hazardous voyage but going "double-hulled" prevents disaster even if an Exxon-Valdez-type oil-supertanker-hull breach should happen. 有錢使得鬼推磨。It's important to be 有錢 i.e. have readily available money backup. High inflation is detrimental to people's monetary reserve so they get anxious and some become distressed. The economy becomes unstable at high inflation because people may start behaving schizophrenically: to spend quickly what money they still have before the money becomes worth even less but when they run out of money they stop spending suddenly. Another reason is high inflation makes financial numbers untrustworthy and unreliable so economic signals become garbled and investors may just get spooked suddenly to become risk-averse. However, rich people who have borrowed other people's money are greatly relieved by high inflation. Joe Biden owns so much real estate ( Trump is in the same league of owning real estate and still owes a lot; he, too, will welcome even higher inflation; most joe the plumbers in the U.S. have probably been wealthier than these heavily indebted leadeners because they needed no bankruptcy protections to fend off thousands of lawsuits from their suppliers and workers; Jews are wise people because they know the real nature of money -- it's manufactured by "insiders;" if you don't have money, borrow it and you have money; where did the money lender get the money ? if it's a national-association bank such as JP Morgan Chase or Citi, they printed their cashier checks "out of thin air" subject to Federal Reserve requirements on fractional banking; it was over my head why the Jewish students some wearing yarmulkes in my Economics class were awestruck by the teacher's revelation/statement that what had made this dollar bill "money" was this phrase printed upon it: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private" -- they got it ! it took me many years to "get it" finally; it helped, of course, to be required to be in the same class as the Jews as I was being given an opportunity but I wasn't receptive at the time {my kid was vastly smarter than I had been by intuitively grasping what we adults did 《i.e. creating notes》-- writing the phrase 'for sale' on our home and also curly Greek alphabets for account name and an ¡astronomical! number on a bank withdrawal slip to present to me to get money; of course, I laughed it off but I understood why I kept U.S. dollar-denominated assets -- there are so many U.S. dollars and U.S. denominated assets out there that even a major hack 《U.S. has nation-state-level enemies which were building scary "things"》 couldn't affect the U.S. dollars' value much; in the depth of the 2008 crash, the U.S. had to dual-source the 24/7 round-the-clock printing of U.S. dollars to a firm in Switzerland to prevent locally Europe's financial systems from collapsing}; in something akin to flip's words, "money is like the 'inch' standard used for measuring wealth; one may never run out of 'inches' if one shrinks the standard by borrowing from a licensed money creator such as national-association banks like JP Morgan Chase and Citi; each newly created dollar on a bank cashier check has the same purchasing power as each dollar you have earned by working at a job; "stiffeneders trade labor [like pregnant women about to give birth or die painfully]; rich people trade favors [which often dwarve labor by many orders of magnitude in a moral equivalent of wealth]" ) that he must be feeling greatly relieved by our fairly high inflation in the U.S.

The hallmark of a highly innovative country such as the U.S.A. is "that's the way it was but what it shall be doesn't have to be the same way; there are better ways." Often there are -- that's why Red China tried to plagiarize so much "American defense stuff" and come up with "Real Democracy" by collaborating with Democratic People's Republic of Rustia. Poorer island peoples who emulate Sri Lankans who had got Red China's major investment money flow will probably get timely "stabilizing policing" help from Red China, too ! Mao Zedong held the "eternal revolution" theory of perpetual unrests ( Mujahideen can swarm nearby Rustia to eat Rustian [not only Ukrainian breadbasket's because they're brothers of Poo-tin's "one single people"] grains, too, drink the Volga all the way up to Moskva; Viva город Мэри ! Viva Maria urbs ! ) Enjoy revolutions: perpetual revolutions 永遠的革命 and the eternal revolution 永恆的革命. Mao & Mew2.

When will Red China's aircraft carriers start puffing as much black smoke as Poo-tin's aircraft carrier does ? I miss those "Real" Physics black-smoke puffing trains for Baby's playtime.

Beware of a rapid launch of food & fuel prices, primarily the grocery bills ( worldwide food reserve is dwindling towards zero, which is the great ignition point heralding the arrival of famine's black horseman ). The Russia->Ukraine conflict's inflationary pressure is coming home to the U.S.A. while U.S. Government is mandating more corn ( which feeds chickens and cows so chicken and beef prices will shoot up but I'm working towards net-zero so these won't affect me much: Chinese culture didn't eat much beef at all {my Mom refrained from eating beef for religious reason, I think, because Buddhism came from Greater India which largely refrains from eating cows} so I had never eaten beef until after my Big Brother became a civil servant, picked up the culinary culture of his colleagues, and introduced beef to me; as for chicken, I got so much of it that I grew sick of eating it in my adolescence; I've since recovered but I still think that Hong Kong's chickens tasted much better, perhaps due to the agent creating the tastiest foods: hunger; moderation is important for happiness: there can be "too much of a good thing" that is really bad ) to be made into ethanol to be mixed into gasoline and burnt. That's true: burning up more food is coming. Food or fuel ? -- Biden administration said, "Fuel !" to look good at the gas pumps. I prefer food over fuel.

Much work can be done from home without using gasoline to commute to workplace. The purpose of having workers in-house was to showcase power of high-paid [White] managers "supervising." It mattered very little if one's working with a computer at home or at the office. ( Everyone has to eat food so everyone must chip in to sponsor Poo-tin's wanking with German characteristics & [primarily poorer] people can blame Russia more for its blockade of food shipments from Ukraine and join the Mujahideen ). Last time when the U.S. did this conversion of food into fuel under Obama administration, it helped jack up food prices which when combined with the climate-chaos-collapsed West Australian wheat harvest triggered Arab Spring. Viva Mujahideen !

Europe's security may be better secured by U.K. allying with the countries threatened by Russia. U.K. has the spirit, whisky not vodka/milk. Yogurt...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

Eg: https://news.antiwar.com/2022/06/01/us-sending-ukraine-advanced-rocket-systems-as-part-of-700-million-weapons-package/ !

Now go read the link U moron, before U spew your Anglo-Saxon worshipping, U$A-supremacist, GOP-centric, RW, b-s!!

No one reads your irrelevant ever-expanding logorrhea and utterly reactionary psycho-spew; U fatuous dickhead!!!

Also, per the OP ...

NB - https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-we-must-insist-that-nuclear-warfare-is-an-unthinkable-policy/

From which, consider:"The war in Ukraine is now in its fourth month, but there is no sign of a ceasefire or resolution anywhere in sight. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has ruled out a ceasefire or concessions, yet he maintains that only diplomacy can end the war.

"In the meantime .. Russian forces are trying to capture eastern Ukraine, while the policy of the United States, is to provide military support to Zelenskyy’s government, for as long as it might take to weaken Russia in hope that regime change will come to Moscow."

Furthermore, "These developments do not bode well either for Ukraine or for the world at large, argues Prof Noam Chomsky, a public intellectual regarded by millions of people as a national and international treasure. In this new and exclusive interview for Truthout, Chomsky urges the forces capable of ending the war to devote their energy to finding constructive ways to put a halt to the unfolding tragedies.

"In addition he analyzes the new and highly dangerous global order that is taking shape.Perhaps to the surprise of many, especially considering the ongoing war in Ukraine,he doesn't describe the US-Russia confrontation as the central element of the new global order in the making."

And which ends with "...while the masses may be controlled with “necessary illusions” and “emotionally potent oversimplifications” (in the words of Reinhold Niebuhr,venerated as the “theologian of the liberal establishment”), there is another problem; the “value-oriented intellectuals” who dare to raise questions about US policy that go beyond tactical decisions. They can no longer be jailed - as during World War I, so those in power now seek to expel them from the public domain in other ways." +Please never forget:

fiat lux et 'Pax America' - temet nosce!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 3 months ago

Noam Chomsky is correct that we all have "a bigger fish to fry" than Russia-Ukraine Conflict and Russia-U.S. "Cold War Il".

We have authoritarian Nationalism, State-is-the-only-god-theism, populism dictatorships, etc. all rising globally while the U.S. is shrinking from its traditional role of championing Freedom and Democracy.

All conversions lose some. Here's where values matter. Corn conversion to ethanol to be burnt needs drying of ethanol because most foods are wet and corn being a food is wet, too. How do we dry up in order to upgrade fermented corn to low-water-content ethanol ? Distillation, which usually uses natural gas, a fossil fuel. The U.S. does have fracked gas to use but hydrofracking is injecting "proprietary chemicals" (known to include some carcinogens) into the ground, probably into the water table so communities might be drinking diluted "proprietary" wizards' brews. Although "dilution is the solution to pollution," is the time-tested-and-honored corporate method of killing off its customers in favor of profits, we should at least ban the known carcinogens and mutagens in the hydrofracking fluids.

It's not entirely clear how much the U.S. actually gains with ethanol's to-be-abundant production being able to suppress the price of gasoline. Ethanol if exposed to ambient air will over time re-absorb from the air the water removed from it by burning natural/fracked/synthetic gas. Water, may be thought of as the "zero-carbon [mono]hydrool," and alcohols, in particular the two-carbon-atom ethanol, (one-carbon version is meth-an-ol; I like to think of 'meth' as mono meaning 1-carbon; 'an' .) can never be separated completely from each other regardless of how much distillation we do. Residual water plus the reabsorbed-from-air water when put into a not-often-used engine tends to rust the engine much faster than gasoline without ethanol. Hence, boat engines and lawn mower engines which are only used seasonally can over time not be started due to too much water in the ethanol-containing gasoline or the rusts formed by water catalysis weld engine parts together immobilizing them.

If we have to use fossil fuels anyway, we should try to avoid conversion. Ethanol might be justifiably used though, as a solvent or delivery medium for helping to deliver natural gas in liquid form through some chemical reactions.

We are indeed too U.S.-centric to see that despite what Russia is saying in its donestic propaganda narrative, Russia isn't fighting NATO or the U.S. If it were so, the conflict in Ukraine would have been over a long time ago.

Russia has a much bigger security problem than on its western borders. It's why I kept on saying that Russia is really a European country because it's obsessing over its European-side security because of its eurocentric mindset. ( we are all "biased" by the way in which we were brought up; for example, we want to look good with "experts" so we got lots of "experts" who are great at seeing each tree but we didn't have the "non-experts" who could see what is buried underground between the trees; when a conflagration comes by, we ask why the "experts" didn't prepare us for the fire; conflagration by its nature goes far beyond a single tree -- one has to look in-between-the-trees distance, prevalent wind direction, under-the-trees underbrush, underground watertable, etc. in many many areas; it can be so broad that no "expert" chosen to have great expertise in one specific area can span that and besides it's not their job, which actually is to look good so that they can protect their piece of "turf" against the other "experts" or uppidty "non-experts" who dare to encroach upon their power preserve; we have many dots and we play dots trying to connect them in time to see what's going on and take appropriate actions.) The defining war in this century will be in Asia, the most non-isolated continent. The partnership 屌 between Stool-in & Hißler to "share" Europe [佢哋兩個嘅]老母 worked out well, didn't it ?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

"The Lie of American Innocence" by Chris Hedges:

which starts with --- "The Cold War, from 1945 to 1989, was a wild Bacchanalia for arms manufacturers, the Pentagon, the CIA, the diplomats who played one country off another on the world’s chess board & the global corporations able to loot & pillage by equating predatory capitalism with freedom.In the name of national security, the Cold Warriors, many of them self-identified liberals, demonized labor (& unions), independent media, human rights organizations - and those who opposed the permanent war economy and the militarization of American society, as soft on communism. That is why they have resurrected it."

And ends with: "It is an imperative that we must be better, do better. We owe it to the future. Gather our courage & although difficult - be prepared to speak and act against what is plainly wrong if we have any semblance of conscience within us!"

Re. your "the U.S. is shrinking from its traditional role of championing Freedom and Democracy" - as usual, U are full of RW Establishment PR/opaganda! Just reprise this very exchange on this thread; OR re-read this entire forum-post; OR - just go try to face the facts here below; U $H!T Spewing RWNJ!

Furthermore, as U are the voice of RW, reactionary, American Conservatives here; U'll be resisted, hard and as U are trapped in a world of deep RW b-s gripes,I'll put U straight every time U reply; guaranteed!

et nosce te ipsum!


PS: "Ukraine war | An unmitigated disaster | John Mearsheimer"

via: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDt2NWmlV4 (58 minutes)

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"Why Is Ukraine The West's Fault?" -- Prof. John Mearsheimer:

Not sure how anyone can have a position on Ukraine, without this.

MSM will Never give this depth & history - so this is a Must Watch.

From 2015, yet it's Very Relevant to the current events in Ukraine.

respice et adspice - et fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

Ukraine is a buffer between the "West" and Russia, says John Mearsheimer in the enlightening video above.

He claims that the West is seeking to place Ukraine into it's own orbit and thus remove it as a buffer. This would place Russia in a very precarious position with NATO and Western Europe right on it's doorstep.

As a result, Putin, Mearsheimer says, refuses to let this happen. If we think back to the Cuban Missile Crisis, we didn't like it very much when Russia had weapons so close to America. This attempt to incorporate Ukraine into western Europe and NATO is not dissimilar.

The West works on "expansion" while pushing "democracy" and they do this all over the world.

(Note of hypocrisy: Black people in America are losing their right to vote all over this country, yet we claim to be pro-democracy!)

Also, it's important to remember that Russia was already in Crimea in 2014 when they incorporated what is a vital piece of real estate for Russian security.

Mearsheimer says that Putin is not looking to incorporate Ukraine, he knows he can't do that, but he will attempt to wreck it so that it can't be incorporated by the West either. It is very important to Putin and Russia that Ukraine remains a buffer, and outside of the West's orbit of power.

Surely, there is a diplomatic way out of this.

If we can imagine how it would feel in the U.S. if the Chinese tried to take over, say, Quebec, and how frightening that would be to the U.S. we can try to understand Putin's position.

Diplomacy, peace and reasonableness with understanding of both sides' interests and goals is the only way out of this. NATO needs to abandon it's plans of expansion and the Ukraine needs an economic plan to move forward where it can remain successful between the two powers of Western Europe and Russia.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Re. Mearshiemer on Ukraine: the summary above is excellent. Thanx and your "If we think back to the Cuban Missile Crisis - we did not like it very much when Russia had weapons so close to America. This attempt to incorporate Ukraine into western Europe and NATO is not dissimilar" is spot on and is further confirmed by the Very Important Link (video and transcript) below:

Re. "It's important to remember that Russia was already in Crimea in 2014 when they incorporated what is a vital piece of real estate for Russian security" - further please consider that The Crimea was NEVER a part of any iteration of Ukraine - prior to 1954 - when Nikita Krushchev (himself an Ukrainian!) decided unilaterally to "give" Crimea to Ukraine - as per some kind of a gesture, in cursory recompense of Soviet wrongs committed against Ukrainians!

The Crimean Peninsula is actually named after The Krim Tartars - who are Muslims and who never gave in to the Soviet hegemony and so were persecuted and then deported en masse to Siberia by Stalin and they only returned after their de facto genocide, in dribs and drabs over time.Crimea can ONLY really be 'returned' to the Krim Tartars - NOT to Ukraine!

Now also please consider - This Fact: THE ONLY year round, ice free, warm water ports that Russia has are Sebastopol and the other Crimean Ports! What is now left of The Krim Tartars are now scattered and a minority in their own original homeland. Russia is the preferred option of the majority of Crimeans, who are now either Russians or Russian speakers. I do not see that the USA is hankering to - 'return' present day US territory 'back' to the Native Inhabitants, on the very same rationale they now demand of Russia!

Finally, please try to engage with the links in the comment immediately below - I promise that U will NOT be disappointed! Solidarity bw and thanx again for your informed responses. x

respice, adspice et nunc - fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Closely consider: "George Kennan, American diplomat and author of the concepts of “Cold War” and “containment,” prophetically warned America about the danger of this policy in the New York Times on February 5, 1997":

  • “….. expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in the entire post-cold war era.... Such a decision may be expected to inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion; to have an adverse effect on the development of Russian democracy; to restore the atmosphere of the cold war to East-West relations, and to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking.” - FROM:

  • "Ukraine, NATO, and the Most Fateful Error of American Policy" by Alexander Markovsky and Ted Belman: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/12/ukraine_nato_and_the_most_fateful_error_of_american_policy.html [Article Dated: 29th Dec 2021]

which concludes: "As long as America & its NATO allies are contemplating punitive measures against Russia instead of trying to resolve the problem they have created, the invasion seems inevitable.

"Should an invasion take place, Ukraine would no longer remain a unitary state. Russians would split Ukraine into three separate countries Eastern, Central and Western. For Ukraine, which is racked by internal incompatibilities, the separation would be almost natural. It will also send a strong message to the former Soviet satellites – NATO is not the salvation, it is a liability." Also note this more recent item:

respice; adspice; prospice - et caveat!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

They have poked the bear and now Ukraine and the world will suffer the consequences.

"He (Putin) made it perfectly clear that he would not allow Ukraine to join NATO. To resolve the issue peacefully, he suggested to President Biden that the U.S. would offer Russia a guarantee that Ukraine would not be admitted to the NATO military alliance. But NATO’s secretary-general, Jens Stoltenberg, rejected the idea and affirmed a NATO right to bring more countries into the alliance. Unless the situation changes, Moscow will have no choice but to invade Ukraine."

From: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/12/ukraine_nato_and_the_most_fateful_error_of_american_policy.html

The West/NATO knew this, but they escalated the situation anyway.

We could have peace on this earth if humans weren't governed by animals.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

Note - "Russia’s Military Offensive Against Ukraine is an act of aggression that will make the already worrisome tensions between NATO and Moscow even more dangerous. The West’s new Cold War with Russia has turned hot!

"Putin bears the primary responsibility for the latest development - but NATO's arrogant tone deaf policy towards Russia over the past quarter-century deserves a large share as well.

"The analysts committed to a US Foreign Policy of 'realism and restraint' - have warned for more than a quarter-century that continuing to expand the most powerful military alliance in history - towards another major power, would not end well.

And consider: "George Kennan, the intellectual father of America’s 'Containment Policy' during the Cold War - perceptively warned in a May 1998 'New York Times' interview about what the Senate’s ratification of NATO’s first round of expansion would set in motion.

“I think that it is the beginning of a New Cold War,” Kennan stated (&) ”I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.” - from:

"It has long been clear that NATO expansion, would lead to tragedy. We are now paying the price for the US’ arrogance."

pacem in terris?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 6 months ago

"Let the horror in Ukraine open our eyes to the suffering of war around the world" Great piece by Nesrine Malik.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/01/let-the-horror-in-ukraine-open-our-eyes-to-the-suffering-of-war-around-the-world

"...From the tone of much coverage, this seems uniquely distressing and more alarming to them because the lives of non-Europeans have less value, and their conflicts are contained, far away from us.

I thought it was just clumsy phrasing from a couple of reporters under pressure, but soon it became clear that it was, in fact, a media-wide tic. From Al Jazeera to CBS News, journalists were appalled that this was not happening in “Iraq or Afghanistan” but in a “relatively civilised European city.” One said: “The unthinkable has happened. This is not a developing, third world nation. This is Europe.” Another reflected: “These are prosperous middle-class people … these are not obviously refugees getting away from the Middle East. To put it bluntly, these are not refugees from Syria, these are refugees from Ukraine … They’re Christian, they’re white, they’re very similar.”

Ukraine’s former deputy chief prosecutor, David Sakvarelidze, told the BBC, unchallenged: “It’s very emotional for me because I see European people with blue eyes and blond hair being killed.”

One thing Malik doesn't touch on is the utter glorification and romanticization of the Ukrainian people and their President across social media and in MSM.

I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I've been seeing on Twitter. It's like people are playing a video game and they're choosing their favorite characters! This is a real war for god's sake! Wake up! There is nothing sexy or exciting about it!

Turning those who are going to suffer quite a lot, into heroes, may satisfy those sitting in their comfortable homes well out of the way of war, but it is not facing the truth of what is to come, which is a lot of suffering.

Had these same people paid attention to wars around the world of people whose skin is not as light, they might not be feeling so excited because the outcome while it will be different because so much more aid will be given, the suffering will still be vast.

And, yes, NATO expansion combined with Putin's unhinged aggression are both to blame for this mess.

No War. Not now. Not ever, is what I say!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"I am concerned when I hear familiar drumbeats in Washington demanding we ‘show strength’ - when we’re faced with what could be the worst European war in 75 years!" - from a month ago yet powerful:

respice et adspice et per ardua ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 6 months ago

Regarding the lionization of Zalensky: We must all be aware that his charismatic calls for a No-Fly Zone would bring more war, not less, and are far from a cry for peace.

That some consider him a candidate for Nobel Peace Prize when he's calling for WWIII makes me shudder.

The war in Ukraine must be de-escalated, not escalated, at all costs.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

"War in Europe and the rise of Raw Propaganda"! by John Pilger:

From 1st linked article:"Marshall McLuhan’s prophecy that “the successor to politics will be propaganda” has happened (and) Raw Propaganda is now the rule in Western democracies, especially the U.S. and Britain.

"On matters of War and Peace - ministerial deceit is reported as news. Inconvenient facts are censored, demons are nurtured. The model is corporate spin, the currency of the age. In 1964, McLuhan famously declared: “The medium is the message”. The lie is the message now.

"But is this new? It is more than a century since (Sigmund Freud's nephew), Edward Bernays the father of spin, invented “public relations” as a cover for war propaganda. What is new, is the virtual elimination of dissent in the mainstream."An alarming reality & this is ultimately how Fascism was/will be facilitated!

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 6 months ago

A No-Fly zone may be problematic if enforced in certain ways but there are some cost-effective ways of enforcing it from the ground. The $oviet Red Army learnt a painful lesson in Afghanistan. In a war of attrition, how much $$$$$ damage can Russia sustain considering its economy is around that of the size of Spain or Italy, smaller than France, Germany, U.K., vastly dwarfed by the U.S.A., plus around two dozens of other European countries. Russia's economy is also shrinking rapidly ( but judging by the prices in rubbles on price tags, expanding rapidly ) under sanctions. Young Russians' outflow has increased, too. Every country eventually dies without its young people, Russian or otherwise. Besides, at least several thousands have gone for building Crimson [cannon] fodder "security" wall with their bodies already.

Russia has no long-term staying power even though it may hollow out Königsberg/Kaliningrad to fight Ukraine.

When the sky is only filled with one side's aircraft, it becomes easy to enforce a No-Fly zone from the ground with missiles: shoot any and all things hot flying up there. How much is an aircraft worth relative to a heat-seeking missile ? How long can Russia's supply of aircraft last ? How many European countries' and U.S. missiles can be brought to bear to enforce no flying ?

Enforcing no-flying using friendly aircraft requires friendly ground forces holding airfields. With Russian forces taking over some relatively flat and exposed areas in eastern Ukraine, they will probably have a tougher time with the more forested western Ukraine, great for fighting a guerilla war ( in North America, when the U.S. was fighting for its independence, [mostly non-red] trees were great for shielding and hiding snipers using rifles on the Redcoats who were obviously and royally marked well as targets for terrain-savvy marksmen who "disappeared into the woods" after having fired their shots first from a longer distance at the Redcoats; U.S. soldiers are usually the best-equipped ones in the world; the equipment cost a bundle but their operators seldom end up as cannon fodder; opponents can invest in equipment, too, but can their economies afford to outspend the U.S. for long ? The dead Russian soldiers thrown into the bomb craters their fellow soldiers had created with their artillery surely saved Russia money, not having to dig graves, pay for burials, or return them to Russia, lowering the verifiable death count to boost the strength of Poo-tin's mesmerizing grip on Russia; Russians are ingenious labor-saving people: ¿cannons? dig graves for cannon fodder.) In mountainous Afghanistan, the mujahideen also didn't have much of an airforce but they shot down many $oviet aircraft with missiles.

What does Poo-tin want after all of the destruction ? A gargantuan reconstruction job to award to Red China's construction companies ? Who pays the Red Chinese ? The U.S. spent 80 billion dollars to "rebuild" Afghanistan. When Afghanistan became safer than some of our exciting "innovative popping corn kernels," I started to forget about it as expected because bin Laden, the "bone of contention" between Islamic custom and U.S. supremacy, had already been sunk. How much will it cost Russia to pay Red China ? Viva D.P.R. Rustia. ( "wealthy" land of crimson rust; well, after Steelin, what else could it be after decades of neglect ? I think that Russian Far East can probably grow some expensive and valuable mushrooms to export to Japan but now it's all just "milk under the bridge." ) I believe that the U.S. could have done better with its relations with Russia but Bushit's national security policy was misguided, being unipolar. It's fine to let everyone know that the U.S. carries a big stick { its size doesn't matter at all if no one knows; its being big does serve deterrence purpose even if one has absolutely no intention of using it } but it doesn't help matters to act towards Russia with Realpolitik disdain. Teddy Roosevelt said, " Speak softly." Otto von Bismarck of Realpolitik would certainly concur.

Poo-tin has a filled-up chamber-pot balanced upon his head. I hope he knows how to stop fidgeting. I learnt from God's first attempt to baptize me. I started taking "scenic routes" around and away from those seven-level resettlement buildings. God won in my case, due to persistence, not of mine, though. Agnosticism differs from Atheism. I had gotten it; I got it; okay, I get it !

A millstone around D.P.R. Rustia's neck is stone-coin money for showing off the prestige of crimson "wealth" to the benighted Russians ( i.e. the rectum-sky-shroud "operated" ones stuck in state-warped television mode; younger Russians have planetary-level internet consciousness -- Russian is the most used language on the internet { now reddernet for Russia, } second only to English; although there are many different countries which people know Russian, I suspect that Russia is still the most populous source of the Russian-language internet users; Red China is the most populous country on our planet but its populace is largely shunted to the outernet for state-control and -propaganda purpose; besides, a huge segment is still very poor despite the so-called "Communism" sharing the wealth of the nation; the D.P.R.K. has a gonernet/information-supercut-way for state purposes -- I wonder whether it's really true that the D.P.R.K. is so dark at night because the people there are so poor that they rip out public copper cables and wires to sell as scrap metal in the black market to make ends meet to survive ). The D.P.R.K. can also grow mushrooms to sell to Japan to get richer were the animosity between them to disappear: 和氣生財。Red China is getting a new bitch called D.P.R. Rustia soon, so the old bitch may become less valued. My Mom loved cooking with liquefied petroleum gas far better than the hard-to-ignite and dirty-burning coal briquettes. Despite our traditional animosity against Japan due to its despicable invasions of China, my Mom was a convert to the Japanese "National"-brand electric rice cooker which eventually cooked my austerity-measure rice with two Chinese sausages steamed atop perfectly every time. Electricity is cleaner than liquefied petroleum gas which is cleaner burning than either kerosene/kerosine used by a stove or coal briquettes. The Chinese Arctic will be favored for its gas.

Why did Japanese but not Chinese rice cooker come out earlier despite China's been cooking rice for millennia ? The Old China didn't have the combined East-rice-cooking-meeting-West-electric-controlling culture as Japan did. I had no experience with coal briquettes but my Mom hated using them in my Dad's clan's chieftain dwelling. My parental family sanctioned Japan for at least 20 to 30 years until neighbors' electric rice cookers impressed Mom in the late 1960s. I continued the sanction on my major purchases.

Dad apparently violated the sanction once, bringing home a Japanese lady doll, a bamboo-spined oiled-paper-sheathed umbrella, and a small and most beautiful dark-purple-colored-velvety-flowers very-dark-green-furry-leaved plant which Mom's attendance at my infamous kindergarten graduation ceremony killed it off because she had forgotten to take it into shade before leaving home ( it was likely a plant native to very high latitudes so I believed that it was Japanese because it appeared at the same time as the other obviously Japanese things ). My guess is that they might be souvenirs from his last good-bye to his Japanese family. I only discovered indirectly the silken Japanese artwork together with his cancelled bank passbook after he had passed away. He probably meant it as a precious reminder of his lost Japanese family. Dad told me that the pouch on the back of the Japanese lady doll traditionally carried mementos ( bone ashes ) of the lady's ancestors and was like a shrine.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 6 months ago

We must have solidarity with all war victims around the world, not just Ukrainians because they are European.

"In 1857, the English poet and Chartist leader Ernest Jones wrote a series of articles in the People’s Paper about the “Indian Mutiny” of that year. It was, he observed, no “mutiny” but a “national insurrection” that Britons should support as much as they had supported similar struggles in Europe. Britons were “on the side of Poland” when it “struggled for its freedom against Russia”. If Poland was “right”, Jones insisted, then “so is Hindostan”.

I was reminded of his argument as I read and listened to some of the commentary about Ukrainian resistance to the Russian invasion. The invasion is brutal and unacceptable, an assault on democracy and sovereignty. We should oppose it just as we should oppose the Saudi assault on Yemen. We should support the people of Ukraine just as we should the people of Syria.

From "The people of Ukraine need our solidarity. But not just because they’re ‘like us’" by Kenan Malik.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/06/people-of-ukraine-need-our-solidarity-not-just-because-theyre-like-us

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"Contrary to what hypocritical U.S. rulers and their loyal mass media suggest; two propositions can both, and indeed are – true ...

1) that Russia has grossly, brutally, and criminally - mishandled the situation it has faced with respect to Ukraine, and ...

2) that the US government since the late 1990s has been entirely responsible for imposing that situation on Russia." And ...

"If you want the fine(r) details, you can do no better than to" ---- READ THIS ARTICLE:

"The goal must be a ceasefire. Biden can facilitate that by doing what he should have done long ago; put in writing that Ukraine and Georgia will not join NATO, that the missile launchers will be removed from Eastern Europe, and that the war exercises on Russia’s border - will end. Ukraine could help by accepting the status of neutrality with Finland-like assurances that it will never let its territory be used offensively against Russia. Biden should also propose that arms-control treaties - trashed by George Bush II and Trump will be reinstated in talks with Russia.

"Russia, of course - should pledge to leave Ukraine and, offer compensation, while the heavily ethnic Russian areas in the east are given the freedom to join Russia.

"We need not be at war – even if it’s a new cold war – with Russia."

Many thanx for your excellent article "The people of Ukraine need our solidarity" too bw. Solidarity.

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 7 months ago

Ukraine is a sovereign country. Russia has no business to restrain what club membership Ukraine seeks. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is wrong.

Russia had tried to hide and lie about the fact of its violation of foundational international behavioral norm. Russia must be beaten back and taught a painful lesson.

Peace in N.A.T.O. is maintained by its members relinquishing hostility towards other members. Members also agreed to defend each other should any one of them come under attack. As such commitment to mutual military aid can obviously incur bad karma if a new potential member hasn't settled scores with others before becoming a member, admission to membership is restricted to the ones without territorial disputes. N.A.T.O. doesn't want to fight to resolve the "baggage" of a potential member because N.A.T.O. is a defense-oriented organization.

There is a policeman to underpin the security guarantee and that is the U.S. but by no means, the U.S. can shoulder the burden alone. There are responsibilities on all members of N.A.T.O. not to fund the potential enemies of the alliance. Germany had obviously violated this rule. Germany has been going for "cheap" gas from Russia while underfunding its defense as promised after Russia's annexation of Crimea. Of course, Germany wasn't alone in doing this, but Germany is a "Big Brother" in N.A.T.O. that others look up to in Europe so Germany must set a good example.

When my Mom had found out that my Big Brother and I had gone on our roaming to doing something terrible, whose pants got pulled down and whose butts got spanked ? Not mine ! Mom wouldn't spank the license plate of a car whose driver had run over a pedestrian deliberately with malice. Witnessing much, the license plate learnt of the idea of discretion quickly. Mom never knew that we had gone to a dangerous { if one falls } "Skeleton Pit" or ate what I believe to be stolen guava and sucked flower buds' nectar ( because I recall that we had climbed over a low wall { maybe about three to five feet tall } in a group with other children whom I didn't recognize.)

I've discovered that it's indeed true that Imperial Japan and China was "one single country" ( and also "one single people.") There was Manchukuo so following the precedent set by Russia in eastern Ukraine, we can create Greater Manchukuo for Bixi in northeastern Asia.

Effecting a much faster market-based transition to green energy via higher prices for fossil fuels can take out a significant chunk of the economy of Russia, Iran, and Venezuela, all being unsavory actors. The non-sanctioned fossil-fuel producers will get higher revenue meanwhile. That will help them find the ways and means to transition away from fossil fuels with the money they get by taking over the market shares of the sanctioned fossil-fuel producers. It pays to behave. Sanctions without real teeth are babushka's denture. Extend sanctions to those entities engaged in helping pariahs evade sanctions. Once Russia has built up fossil-fuel export facilities on the Black Sea shore, de-facto shut them all off by denying Russian or Russia-chartered ships' passage through the strait ( there was agreement about keeping it open but there was also the Budapest Agreement which amounted to a prime signatory party, Russia, blatantly violating it so N.A.T.O. can impose the modernized ahistorical mathematical-breakthrough 0-dash line upon the strait; anything can be transformed into anything if we take away that first anything to get nothing and put in that last anything to be with that nothing; out of everything comes nothing and out of nothing comes everything; everything is measured by some unit, say 9 dashes; if 9 dashes are taken away to form 0 dashes which is just 0 without any unit and also 0 with any unit, such as 0 = 0 chickens = 0 dogs = 0 pigs = 0 cows = 0 food animals.)

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

So - "Why the US and NATO want war with Russia"?!

And btw, WTF are you even talking about, U crazy fool?!

multum in parvo?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

"Glenn Greenwald sounds off on lengthening Ukraine War"

MULTUM in parvo!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

Note: "Western Officials Admit Ukraine ... Is Crawling With CIA Personnel"!

cave - multum in parvo!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

"Fueling the Warfare State!" - by William D. Hartung:

"America's $1.4 Trillion "National Security" Budget Makes Us Ever Less Safe"!

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 7 months ago

"Watch what Russia was doing, not what Russia was saying," has been a better guide to Russia's intention for an armed invasion of Ukraine. To be honest, I did both but I trusted what Russia's hands were preparing for an attack more than what Russia's lips were saying about "no invasion" and "withdrawal."

Hasn't that been borne out already ?

Many eastern European countries chose to join N.A.T.O., not because of coercion by the West but because of their [justifiable from their own experience living under the thumb of the U.S.S.R.] fear of their East. I haven't checked how a country can withdraw from N.A.T.O. but I will certainly believe you that N.A.T.O. was imposing itself on these countries if Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, etc. eastern European countries withdraw from N.A.T.O. There are N.A.T.O. troops in some of these countries. I don't see these countries' peoples demonstrating in the streets to get the troops out of their countries. I believe that they're glad that they are in N.A.T.O., seeing what has happened to Ukraine.

N.A.T.O. expanded to include these countries because they had wanted to join N.A.T.O. despite the somewhat-involved-and-stringent membership requirements ( Belarus doesn't qualify because it's not democratic so it will be absorbed by Russia due to its leader's desire to hold on to power for a while longer until Russia takes it over.) France had withdrawn from N.A.T.O. before but look at where France is located geographically, definitely not on the eastern flank exposed to Russia.

In a hypothetical attack by Russia towards the Atlantic coast, France would probably be the last to be attacked and possibly overrun so France is relatively safer than the eastern European N.A.T.O. countries and thus has the luxury of not needing N.A.T.O. protection as much.

It looks like now is the right time to start a special economic Operation Crimson Chaos on Red China, fashioned upon Russia's lead in the military area. Whenever one buys anything from a shop, first ask whether it has come from Red China. If it has, put it back onto the shelf. Russia needs all the help to buy cheaply with [stranded] rubbles ( same as those billions upon billions of rubbles already spent on Crimea to attract enough people who needed freshwater to push Pootin to invading Ukraine to get more; ethnic Russians in formerly Soviet republics can learn to adjust to second-class citizenship by not setting foot in areas where they are discriminated against as I analogously haven't ventured to most of the Deep South of the U.S.; the U.S. is huge enough that I had quite enough of it left to roam; the primary determinant of ethnicity is language which prevails upon culture's importance as a determinant because one can quickly learn and acquire the culture once one knows the language and then be culturally immersed; { about six months of adjustment was all I had required to acquire American English from my foundation of British English as all of my secondary-school classes were conducted in British English except for Chinese and Chinese History; there were different types of secondary schools in Hong Kong -- one important distinction between them being the language in which the neutral subjects such as Mathematics and the physical sciences were taught, Cantonese Chinese or British English -- note that I've never formally learnt 《although I can communicate in it by extrapolating from several other Chinese dialects used in my parental family which I knew because I had been living all my life between first- and second-class citizenship 》the official language of New China so I understand the feelings of frustration of Beijing's shoving Putonghua 《which is not mutually comprehensible in speech with Cantonese, unlike British and American English》 down the throats of young Hong Kongers 《some of their parents had been driven out by Vietnam but taken in as refugees by Hong Kong with the help of Red China so I consider them as being first-class <an adoptee had founded our clan so our clan's tradition was that all adoptees who joined us were first-class; our adopted Grandma was thus first-class> Red-Chinese citizens by Grace inheritance but [de facto second-class] British [Colonial] subjects by birth -- "British National Overseas"; People here didn't say that John S. McCain III was "American National Overseas"; we of course should take into account the very different homeland size and resources of the British Isles vs. the continental U.S.; my Dad was saying "a few islands" regarding the densely populated U.K. vs. the sparsely populated [and thus suitable for a car-based transportation/mobile-"often-conception-to-cradle-to-grave"-habitat population-already-dispersed-for-a-nuclear-war-via-the-Interstate-Highways-System/GPS/ARPANet-now-Internet-linked culture] U.S.》by linking their lives' economic opportunities to an invading language; it's never smart to drive a [rat or otherwise] into a corner because a guided funnel can work so much better for avoiding confrontations; laws are to be obeyed but need to be enunciated in comprehensible manner and pre-warned-of to the targets } Russian is widely used in the formerly Soviet republics so ethnically Russians can somewhat easily integrate with a chosen republic; the Commonwealth of Independent States still exists so "cross-state federation" citizenships can be created by the ethnicity experts; the U.S. has distinct states with different laws but there are mutually recognized rights of all other states' citizens -- we only have interstate checkpoints on special occasions such as just before Memorial Day when people drive long distances and tend to drink alcohol [to excess] or when there are escaped criminals afield ) the [stranded] goods made by Red China.

Pootin's claim of genocide in Ukraine has been heeded at the U.N. once more, demonstrating Russia's great influence on the U.N. Humans Rights body, goading it to act.

Framed in the archway of the sunset, see the homeward Cossack go; Noiseless saved for a raven's croaking, and the hoofbeats in the snow.

If only the U.S. had learnt from Great Russia, we, by banning Twitter, wouldn't have had to suffer through years of Cheatose(R)'s freedom of speech.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Re. Ukraine, Russia and NATO, as with everything else on this OWS forum, I do not give a flying fk wtf U think or what U think U know about anything!!! I've read enough of your spew over the years, to ONLY be interested in WTF U can substantiate!! U 'First Person, Singular' obsessed fkn moron! Ergo, watch ...

and note: "Professor John J.Mearsheimer is the 'R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science' at the University of Chicago,where he has taught since 1982. He graduated from West Point Military Academy in 1970, and he then served five years as an officer in the U.S. Air Force. He has published six immensely influential books on International Relations Theory. In 2020, he won the "James Madison Award", which is given once every three years by the American Political Science Association, to "an American political scientist who has made a distinguished scholarly contribution to political science'”!

"This interview was recorded on Tuesday15th February before Russia invaded Ukraine" but facts stand!!

PS:Your five paragraphs were 4, 1, 7, 5 & 3 lines long when I made my reply; in case U add more later!!!

"temet nosce" et "e tenebris - lux"?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

So consider are "US/NATO Preparing False Flag Chemical Attack In Ukraine?" Outlandish claim?!

"On the heels of vociferous denials from US officials of biological weapons labs in Ukraine,the public is being warned that the country may be facing an imminent chemical weapons attack. Russia and NATO are both already blaming the other for this potential war crime, but the only group with an incentive and the depravity to deploy chemical weapons ... are the Ukrainian neo-Nazi militias like the Azov Battalion.

"Jimmy Dore and The Grayzone’s Aaron Maté ( https://mate.substack.com ) .. discuss the bio weapons propaganda war that’s already raging over a potential attack."

MULTUM in parvo?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"So this is what they've been hiding!" [when it comes to just Ukraine, so imagine re. eg. Iran!]

The "they" in this case, is US State Department & DoD! After those links read this year old article:

omnia causa fiunt!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"Noam Chomsky: US Military Escalation Against Russia Would Have No Victors"! - in exchange with C.J. Polychroniou:

ad iudicium?!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 7 months ago

I wouldn't mind it a bit if Russia should take over and move into Quebec because many Canadians don't live or work in Canada anyway. They live and work in the U.S.A. ( with some commuting nearly every weekend to Canada.) Pootin, by studying synergistic-with-Russia Canada ( a competitor but also a possible good friend sharing advices and helping each other ) could've anticipated the problem of not having enough water for the fast growing population of Crimea after his annexation of it.

The Canadians working in the U.S.A. usually own significantly underused дача, beach or lake house, cottage, summer house, etc. in Canada ( often lakeview ones but not loaded with urban conveniences such as natural gas or municpal sewage treatment and drinking water; it's like upscale at-home camping ) and can thus become Russia's landlords and landladies. Pootin can understand this very well. I thought that he was in Moscow working but no, he was in the warmer Sochi. Crimea is such a big problem now because for Russians it's a warm destination to which they can freely move. Besides, Pootin had to pour billions upon billions of rubbles into making Crimea a showcase for repatriating formerly Soviet-Union lands so at least hundreds of thousands of Russians had already moved to live and work there. People need freshwater to live. Crimea already had problem with droughts before its being annexed. It is thus made by the numerous newcomers even more water-stressed so Russia needs to invade Ukraine to get freshwater for Crimeans. Red China has a system called Hukou for handling this population control problem for many decades already. The U.S. has a similar-aimed identification and resource-allocation system after 9/11 ( because we couldn't guard our national borders well enough so we are guarding our improvised mini-national borders at every school, every town/city hall, every pharmacy, every bank, every airport, etc.; here's why the U.S. has to fight overseas at the sources to reduce the influx of terrorists ) so Reisepass wasn't a Nazi monopoly.

Hukou system helped starve "excess" population to death during Red China's "three years of natural disaster" to achieve the glorious Great Leap Forward under Mao's steering leadenship ( as modeled after Stallin's miraculous transformation of the breadbasket that was Ukraine, which Hißler lusted after, { Wehrmacht soldiers and officers dreamt and talked of owning a farm in Ukraine as they were fighting their way deep into the U.S.S.R. during WWII; Ukraine was Lebensraum } into graveyards where zombies and cannibals roamed; the redress after Stallin for that: Crimea and eastern Ukraine may soon become the tripwire for a great war in Europe and the collapse of the territorial integrity and sovereignty international order constructed post-WWII and maintained peace in fractious Europe.) From Munich: "Peace for our time !" History almost never repeats itself but it rhymes by staying within a confined region of possibilities embedded within the dimensions created by physical properties because the Holy Bible says, "There is nothing new under the sun," but there are numerous new permutations ( corresponding to rotations of amplitudes in amplituhedron.) What is now "death process" ? The diplomatic process ?

Being so cold up there in Canada, maybe Russia knows more technologies to develop Canada with. There's that arctic-country synergy of circumstances and experiences; for example, ice hockey, ice skating, insulating and heating technologies, and long-haul railroads/railways.

Russia has attacked Ukraine so Russia doesn't want to keep N.A.T.O. away but to get closer to it ( all that fear of N.A.T.O. getting close to Russia expressed by that lunatic gone rogue as a patient of Bloomingdale Insane Asylum was faked.) The new "ice-breaker," ( no, not the one born in Austria who ate his own bullet, got kerosene/kerosine poured upon his body by a deputy in order to make a burnt-fish offering of himself in his own one-quarter-Jew version of "holocaust;" he didn't want to be urinated upon as his partner-in-crime's body was; the practitioner of Fascism didn't care about having great skin on his body, unlike the Facism users of skin-repair lotion with the three main ingredients: water, glycerin, and urea ) Russia, has voted for the free speech of bombs and missiles in our worldwide democracy. Citizens United versus FEC.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"As the United States has de-industrialized, its trade and balance-of-payments deficit is becoming more problematic. It needs arms export sales to help reduce its widening trade deficit and also to subsidize its commercial aircraft and related civilian sectors. The real challenge is how to maintain its prosperity and world dominance as it de-industrializes while economic growth is surging ahead in China and now even Russia.

"America has lost its industrial cost advantage by the sharp rise in its cost of living and doing business in its -- Financialized Post-Industrial Rentier Economy. Additionally, as Seymour Melman explained in the 1970s, Pentagon capitalism is based on cost-plus contracts: The higher military hardware costs, the more profit its manufacturers receive. So U.S. arms are over-engineered – hence, the $500 toilet seats instead of a $50 model. The main attractiveness of luxury goods after all, including military hardware, is their high price.

"This is the background for U.S. fury at its failure to seize Russia’s oil resources – and at seeing Russia also break free militarily to create its own arms exports, which now are typically better and much less costly than those of the U.S. Today Russia is in the position of Iran in 1954 and again in 1979. Not only do its oil sales rival those of U.S. LNG, but Russia keeps its oil-export earnings at home to finance its re-industrialization, so as to rebuild the economy that was destroyed by the U.S.-sponsored shock “therapy” of the 1990s.

"The line of least resistance for U.S. strategy seeking to maintain control of the world’s oil supply while maintaining its luxury-arms export market via NATO is to Cry Wolf and insist that Russia is on the verge of invading Ukraine – as if Russia had anything to gain by quagmire warfare over Europe’s poorest and least productive economy. The winter of 2021-22 has seen a long attempt at U.S. prodding of NATO and Russia to fight – without success."

"Where did America’s Neoliberal Cold War dream go wrong? For starters, China did not follow the World Bank’s policy of steering governments to borrow in dollars to hire U.S. engineering firms to provide export infrastructure. It industrialized in much the same way that the United States and Germany did in the late 19th century: By heavy public investment in infrastructure to provide basic needs at subsidized prices or freely, from health care and education to transportation and communications, in order to minimize the cost of living that employers and exporters had to pay. Most important, China avoided foreign debt service by creating its own money and keeping the most important production facilities in its own hands.

"The only way for the United States to sustain its international financial balance is by monopoly pricing of its arms, patented pharmaceutical and information-technology exports, and by buying control of the most lucrative production and potentially rent-extracting sectors abroad – in other words, by spreading neoliberal economic policy throughout the world in a way that obliges other countries to depend on U.S. loans and investment.

"That is not a way for national economies to grow. The alternative to neoliberal doctrine is China’s growth policies that follow the same basic industrial logic by which Britain, the United States, Germany and France rose to industrial power during their own industrial takeoffs with strong government support and social spending programs.

"The United States has abandoned this traditional industrial policy since the 1980s. It is imposing on its own economy the neoliberal policies that de-industrialized Pinochetista Chile, Thatcherite Britain and the post-industrial former Soviet republics, the Baltics and Ukraine since 1991. Its highly polarized and debt-leveraged prosperity is based on inflating real estate and securities prices and privatizing infrastructure.

"This Neoliberalism has been a path to becoming a failed economy and indeed, a failed state, obliged to suffer debt deflation, rising housing prices and rents as owner-occupancy rates decline, as well as exorbitant medical and other costs resulting from privatizing what other countries provide freely or at subsidized prices as human rights – health care, education, medical insurance and pensions." -- FROM:

Please Note: THIS^IS MY EXCERPTED EDIT OF A TREMENDOUS, DOT-JOINING, EXPLANATORY ARTICLE & IS ONLY FOR GROWN-UPS! ONLY REPLY - IF U CAN READ & REPLY AS AN ADULT!

fiat lux, fiat justitia et ergo - fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

"Instead of a real military threat from Russia and China, the problem for American strategists is the absence of such a threat.

That, for me is the most important sentence in the Michael Hudson article, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56997.htm

Also, the U.S. does not want it's allies, Western European and certain Asian countries to purchase fuel and other products from Russia. They want them to be dependent on America. This is the main reason for NATO's existence, keeping the allies dependent.

Hence, "Europe is to impose sanctions at the cost of rising energy and agricultural prices by giving priority to imports from the United States and foregoing Russian, Belarusian and other linkages outside of the Dollar Area. As Sergey Lavrov put matters: “When the United States thinks that something suits its interests, it can betray those with whom it was friendly, with whom it cooperated and who catered to its positions around the world.”[3]

America’s sanctions on its allies hurt their economies, not those of Russia and China."

And, "Quite apart from the threat of actual war resulting from U.S. bellicosity, the cost to America’s allies of surrendering to U.S. trade and investment demands is becoming so high as to be politically unaffordable."

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"Ignored Warnings: How NATO Expansion Led to the Current Ukraine Tragedy"! by Ted Galen Carpenter:

"History will show that Washington’s treatment of Russia, in the decades following the demise of the Soviet Union was a policy blunder of epic proportions."

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Note "The New Doves on Ukraine" by Benjamin Wallace-Wells:

"Could the U.S. prevent a war by giving up on NATO expansion?"

dum spiro - spero!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

John Pilger says in a tweet that Putin offered peace to Ukraine on Thursday if they agree to remain neutral.

https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1497560700125790209

He didn't give any proof of this but it's interesting.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Note that: "After the fall of the Soviet Union ... there was a near universal understanding among political leaders that any NATO expansion would be a foolish provocation against Russia & - how naive we were to think the Military-Industrial Complex would allow such sanity to prevail?!

"The War Industry, did not intend to shrink its power or its profits. It set out almost immediately to recruit the former Communist Bloc countries into the European Union and NATO.

"The consequences of pushing NATO up to the borders with Russia - there is now a NATO missile base in Poland 100 miles from the Russian border - were well known to policy makers.Yet they did it anyway!

Finally note - "It made no geopolitical sense. But it made commercial sense. War, after all, is a business & a very lucrative one. It is why we spent two decades in Afghanistan although there was near universal consensus after a few years of fruitless fighting that we had waded into a quagmire we could never win."

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"How convenient for western leaders - that every time another country defies the West’s projection of power, the western media can agree on one thing: that the foreign government in question is led by a madman, a psychopath or a megalomaniac.

"At a drop of a hat - western leaders are absolved of guilt, or even responsibility for the terrible events that unfold. The West remains virtuous - simply a victim of the world’s madmen. Nothing the West did was a provocation. Nothing they could have done would have averted the disaster.

"The US may be the most powerful state on the planet by far, but its hands are apparently always tied by a deranged, implacable foe like Russia’s Putin.

"Vladimir Putin, we are simply told, isn't advancing any rational - from his perspective – geopolitical or strategic interest by invading his neighbour, Ukraine.And so no concession could or should have been made because none would have prevented him from acting as he has.

"The West; meaning Foreign Policy Hawks in Washington - gets to decide when the timeline of events started,when the original sin occurred.The compliant western media give their blessing and our hands are washed clean once again.

"The subtext; always the subtext - is that something must be done to stop the "madman" and because he is irrational and a megalomaniac, such action must never be framed in terms of the concessions or compromise - that would be appeasement, after all. If every enemy is a new Hitler - no western leader will risk a comparison with Neville Chamberlain.

So, "Instead, what is needed urgently, western politicians and media agree, is the projection - whether overtly or covertly - of yet more western power and force." - from this important 28th Feb. dated article:

this: "As the possibility of a Russian invasion looms, NATO's eastern expansion remains at the heart of the conflict."

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

"Arms Industry Sees Ukraine Conflict As An Opportunity . . . NOT A Crisis"! ... by Jonathan Ng:

ad iudicium?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Consider how TV pundits quietly paid by the defense industry- are given media platforms, to demand military escalation and a war and corporate media is not disclosing their financial ties to the weapons contractors that would profit!

"To explain the crisis, Corporate News Networks are leaning on hawkish ex-military officials - without disclosing their current defense industry ties" as the owners of MSM also own the US War Machine!!

bella detesta matribus!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Also consider "1 in 3 Big Defense Contractors Profit from US Prisoner Suffering" by Alan Macleod:

NB: "There exists a situation whereby prisoners earning pennies per hour; are making multimillion-dollar weapons; fired by individuals being paid barely $20,000 per year ... at civilians, who might not make that much in their lifetimes!"

e tenebris - tenebris!

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PS: Re. the 'wall of fk knows what' below, please refer to this previous recent reply for insights into wtf is going on in wider society, though as ever, there are still no insights into wtf grapes is trying to talk about!

minima maxima sunt!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 5 months ago

That article proved that Macron had the foresight to help Ukraine defend against Russia. France selling Rafale fighter jets to Ukraine is a brilliant idea. I just hoped that it could be done in time to make a difference in Ukrainian air superiority.

Flying an unfamiliar new fighter jet without much prior training can be a problem, especially if going into a high-stake dogfight. I wonder whether France has some airborne air-to-air missiles which are compatible with the aircraft in Ukraine's possession. Denying Russia air superiority over Ukraine is important for Ukraine's defense. An airborne missile platform can have much longer range of shoot-down coverage ( up to aircraft's range + missile's range ) as well as versatility due to having the networked pilot's intelligence and situational awareness to decide the spacetime venue for engagement.

It's fine to rip out unnecssary or unused equipment from an advanced fighter jet if the pilot hasn't gotten used to using it. Israel got great wartime victories with U.S. fighter jets which had "too many bells and whistles." It's understandable because Israeli Defense Force trained their pilots extremely well so they didn't really need as much automated early warning from avionics as a U.S. pilot would desire to have. For great pilots, alarms were distractions.

It's an issue similar to whether one should drive a car with automatic or stick-shift transmission. One can get superior performance out of a stick-shift car with a great skilled driver but not for mundane drivers who will probably get better performance from the automatic transmission on ride smoothness and gas mileage.

"May the force be with you." Always !

My Mom would have plunked down all of our savings to de facto "charter" a Boeing-747 jumbo-jet ( probably the Clipper "Gem of the Sea" ) to catch the flight from Tokyo to New York, with refueling at Fairbanks. La Cucaracha ( ranked as number 8 of ice-cream-truck songs,) Periplaneta americana, showed the way out at the tip of the neck of the Johnnie-Walker Red-Label whiskey bottle which dropped down and broke our kitchen sink. It flew up high with all its might so quickly that I couldn't take one of my [¿Japanese?] flip-flops off my foot in time to squash it. A Boeing-747[¿SP?] jumbo-jet "Gem of the Sea [or ¿Ocean, previously as an aspiration for trans-Pacific-Ocean flights?]" could cruise at 39,000 feet altitude, and arrive at Tokyo from Hong Kong in less than two and a half hours.

Russia is immoral killing in multiple Ukrainian cities the Ukrainian civilians, especially the mostly women and children who were waiting in a train station for evacuation to get out of way of the Russian-ice-cream-depraved Russian invaders. I strongly recommend ice-cream trucks be included and playing their songs in Red Square's Victory Day March but don't crush any roadside snail. The poor souls trying to besiege Kyiv had a blood-sugar-too-low problem. Human bodies run on glucose but ice-cream served to me in edible egg-batter-baked-wafer cones worked well for me. My Big Brother knew that a bigly ice-cream cone would keep my mouth busy nipping, sucking, licking, and chomping. Why was the tip of the bottom of an ice-cream cone always so irresistable for me to bite it off first causing melt drips later on, which I had to suck and lick quickly to avoid losing them by their dripping down to the floor or running down into my sleeves ? Could it be due to the structure of the human visual system ? If I forgot to complete the eating of ice-cream in a warm place and got the ice-cream melt frozen onto my chin as I walked to the frigid outside, would there be Red Cross service in a march to lick that sweetie off ? I could probably lick my own lips and fingers by myself if I hadn't lost them to frostbites.

Learning how to fight a fierce hot war with Chinese characteristics can help spare combatants' lives and avoid casualties. The Chinese Civil War's decades of continuance got a shelling schedule figured out by both sides to avoid anyone being hurt. One can have "the big fat piece of rotten [kosher] pork" and the other can have "the big fat piece of rotten [halal] beef."

"Chings and Japs are one single people, bound by a bayonet stuck into a vagina, inseparable, one power family, of East Asia, which no party in power wants to admit that it's existed, lest the mighty Money be cast into shame."

History comes as rhymes of inky circles.

There's no time for anything and there comes everything in "no" time, especially blood-sugar-level-low-triggered Color Revolutions in countries which imported Russian & Ukrainian wheat.. : Türkiye(не индейка,) Egypt, Lebanon, Sahel Africa, Red China... 2011 Tunisia to Libya, Syria.. serves as an excellent example for West Australian climate-¿chaos or decade oscillation?-caused-wheat-harvest-failure-triggered Color Revolutions. Poo-tin wants to prove that he's more powerful than the rain god for West Australia in creating food supply chaos leading to "Stool-in-Poo-tin's invisible hand" in the coming [East Mediterranean & mainland China] Color Revolutions. Hallelujah !!! Ice-cream, sugar, flour, & wheat can all increase blood sugar level of peoples if eaten in moderation. My favorites are ice-cream, chewing gums, & egg tarts. My Big Brother learnt to pay for "insurance & registration" and take care of his "license to roam." Some grown-up-as-single-child world leaders may have missed that soft-skill socialization and lead-and-carry-his-younger-brother-on-his-back life-skill training opportunity.

Russia's leadenship-failure is due to not having included ice-cream trucks in its Red Square Victory Day Marches. Russia's Military needs a sick leave. U.S. soldiers in scalding-hot Saudi Arabian Desert near Kuwait had initiative and wore water-soaked tampons upon their heads to cool down while waiting.

Hong Kong prostitutes drove the Imperial Japanese Army occupying Hong Kong nuts with their venereal diseases' transmission to their Nihoni. It's why the Japs created the infamously brutal Unit 731 to "research syphilis, frostbites, munition-blasts' effectiveness on PoWs, waterborne diseases, plague-infected lice..." I suspect that "the curse" attributed by the blind clairvoyant to be imposed, after my Mom had dismissively killed the male serpentine deity, by his mate, the female serpentine deity, living in my Dad's ancestral chieftain's dwelling, might have been due to the lingering effects of the Japs' bioweapon research done on Ningpo/Ningbo which was probably used as a scientific model for testing typhoid, dysentery { my family heirloom of a nearly empty bottle of opium extract made in India was probably a memento left over from saving the lives of many people dying from dysentery }.. waterborne diseases' bioweapons ( for conquering all of China ) due to Ningbo's having small rivulets similar to China's having large rivers. The Japanese rapists ( or "beloved" customers ) celebrated their gonorrhea, herpes, and syphilis for the rest of their lives. Gonorrhea is a gift that can keep on giving. Herpes are forever, and syphilis is gruesome, disfiguring, and often deadly. The surviving Russian soldiers who got their "lifetime-achievement war trophies" would probably share them with their sexual partners once they got back home in Russia. Their sexual partners will probably say, "We'll always remember you [whenever there comes to us yet another eruption]."

The flip-flops which I was wearing might have been Japanese in origin because this flip-flop culture appeared about the same time as the other Japanese things my Dad had brought home. Dad had probably introduced flip-flops to our family since he had once said that Japanese women would fetch their men's flip-flops, kneel, and bow down to put them onto their homecoming men's feet ( among other niceties such as massages and more; ) he lamented the American occupiers for spoiling Japanese women's subservience virtues so back massages and more went missing.

In a military dictatorship, men usually occupy the superior social positions because most men were evolved to be [brute-force] warriors { but not all wars were won by brute force or Stool-in, the bank robber, would have conquered the World.} Men as a statistical population are bigger, stronger, and faster at the means than women as a statistical population. Men are nearly a different species due to the Y-chromosome's lacking most of the X-chromosome's genes but having evolved the palindromic-redundancy genes with powerful control functions. Make war and men tend to dominate the society in their power. Men got genetic "lobotomy" on the cellular sex-chromosome level so men tend not to be "average" but somewhat deviant or spread out from the norm, in both good and bad directions.

A euglycemia brigade with ice-cream-laden ice-cream trucks can forestall the much-feared-by-Poo-tin Color Revolutions better than the spec-nuts who had tried to besiege Kyiv and failed. Radiation poisoning can make future cancers for and sterilize the pee-nuts exposed to Chernobyl radioactive-hazard zone. Iran going nuclear will stabilize the Middle East as well as Pakistan and India going nuclear next to nuclear states nearby had stabilized the Indian subcontinent by preventing all large-on-a-per-capita-scale terrorist attacks there for decades. Afghanistan had suffered too much for one man, bin Laden, because New York's World Trade Center and Washington D.C.'s Pentagon possessed nuclear weapons but al Qaeda in Afghanistan didn't. Japan can found New Asia Treaty Organization. Global Plutonium Association can jumpstart it with critical knowledge 92, 94.

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[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 7 months ago

Ukraine has potential. It's the reason why Russia's still lusting for it and trying to ensure that it fails in aspiring to be a free and prosperous democratic European country despite its coming from the same Soviet roots as Russia which has obviously failed to achieve the same objective, partly due to its having the backing of its Asian part. Pootin's actions demonstrate that he's desperate for Russia which has an economy as measured by GDP smaller than U.K., France, or Germany. Russia has no staying power for a prolonged occupation of Ukraine. Reagan used to dismiss CIA intelligence, stating there's no reason why U.S. couldn't out-compete the "Evil Empire" given that U.S. economy is twice as big as U.S.S.R.'s. It's why there was an arms race and he claimed that the U.S. could finish off nuclear weapons of both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. by shifting nuclear defense doctrine from MAD to ballistic missile defense ( he had even suggested sharing the developed technology with the U.S.S.R. so that both sides could dismantle their respective nuclear weapons; he worked in his youth as a lifeguard so he was probably genuine in wanting to dismantle the nuclear weapons which were only good for mass killing and "burning a hole in the national pocketbook;" it turned out that the heightened nuclear-war fear of the U.S.S.R.'s assuming that the U.S. was actually acquiring a first-strike capability with the missile defense helped lead to the nuclear catastrophe at Chernobyl, so yeah, there had indeed been a rather odd nuclear "war" in what's now Ukraine near Kyiv; the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe helped end the Cold War through the subsequent events it fostered; Arpanet was released from nuclear-war defense and became the internet we are using every day worldwide; it's on the level of the first truly planetary scale consciousness.) Nowadays the U.S. economy dwarfs Russia's by even more. Unless Russia goes for a nuclear war, it has zero chance that it can prevail against N.A.T.O. which includes all four countries, each with an economy greater than Russia's which is roughly around that of Italy's. Well, Italy is also a member of N.A.T.O. ! Plus dozens more others such as Poland Türkiye which held grudges against Russia. Russia must be out of its mind if it goes to war with N.A.T.O. I very much doubt that Russian Orthodoxy has the same mind-blinding power as Sunni Islam practiced by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Russia won't hold Ukraine for long if it's smart. Even if Russia can conquer Ukraine, Ukraine can still be tough to be governed because Ukrainians are already angry at the Russia-instigated war in Ukraine's East ( by Russian military pretenders ) and annexation of Crimea. Ukrainians know a lot about Russia, Russian culture, and Russian language, and are right nextdoor to Russia proper. It's stupid to have an enemy who knows "too much" right nextdoor to wreak havoc. Has Russia the blood, tears, and treasures for yet another long-duration occupation ? The Sidewinders bit in Afghapakistan, didn't they ? I don't pretend to commit adult-ery so this reply isn't childish.

Red China's surge in economic growth is over. Russia is hardly "surging." Which country is Red China's biggest customer ? Isn't Red China going against its biggest customer at every turn arrogantly ? That did wonders for Red China's economy, didn't it ? Is there any chance that Red China will surpass the U.S. in its size of economy by 2050 ? Absolutely not. Where's the market for that economy ? People consume and create the market. We just don't produce enough people to greatly expand the market for consuming Red China's economic growth. Besides Red China's productive workforce is rapidly aging and dying. We can induce people to fuck more if we become supportive socially but growing a zygote into an adult still takes decades. We also have severe environmental pollution and overcrowding in Red China due to its policies and culture. The chemicals we use have probably reduced our fertility tremendously already. Russia's economy isn't expanding much because it's still under sanctions for its stupid grab for Crimea, now needing Russia to go to war with Ukraine to get water for it. Crimea has been a sink for Russia's wealth. I somewhat empathize with Russia's negative view of LGBTQIA because Russia can scantily afford that with its dwindling population. LGBTQIA doesn't offer a way to increase the population much. The U.S. is different due to its large influx of immigrants. LGBTQIA doesn't drive our population into decline. The U.S. may be one of the very few developed countries which has a still growing population with possibility of its workers becoming more productive.

Red China's one-child policy has dealt quite a blow to its demographics already, not withstanding its poorly socialized for sharing, highly self-aggrandizing, never-outside-looking-or-understanding ( partly government's policy of politicizing and warping reality to further its power's continunance ), hyper-nationalism playing the-victim card, and crooked-view-of-history Little Emperors and Empresses. Current Red China's collapsing any goodwill towards it is no less due to this one-child policy. Good luck with growing its economy with this "quality" group of productive workers who don't have the grit of the older generations of Chinese !

Many Left wingers don't even know why there are $500 instead of $50 toilet seats for the U.S. Military. Give you a hint: it's the same reason that we haven't driven any Russia-manufactured cars in recent decades despite Russia's capability to make them. Defense goods are different from consumer goods for which a little change here and there, slapping on a new release model name & serial number to advertise it as a new product work. Defense goods have different objectives ( DPRK affords many expensive rocket launches despite North Koreans are being starved ) and can command vastly higher prices. There's a reason why the U.S. is the world's topmost arms exporter. It's because U.S. arms are some of the best if not the best in the world. Worldwide dominance requires superior arms of course but even neighborhood security (Ukraine) can use them , too, especially the ones already been proven in real-world battles.

How much is freedom ? I'm not idealistic and say "priceless" but I'll say that it's definitely not "cheap." Germany is rapidly relearning that forgotten lesson. They might have far too short a duration for a generation. How many living Germans have parents who were involved in WWII ? Note that I am not talking about grandparents but parents. By the third generation, much of the cultural heritage is naturalized. My parents were participants in WWII and even the earlier-starting Second Sino-Japanese War. I still remember what they had said about their experiences. With the help of globally available knowledge ( obviously blocked by some state-imposed informational walls to promote State Facism and Fascism,) I could reconstruct and at times correlate and verify their sayings. "Freedom is not free," is a cliché and blasé to many modern Europeans but, "Freedom is worth fighting for," isn't a cliché.

Has Germany succeeded again with its Master Race of Business Administration trading acumen yet, as it had so successfully ended the Cold War with the help of the Stasi ? When will Europe get Nord Stream 3 for Ukraine and elect the by-now-energy-experienced director Hunter to its board ? Promise Russia that Königsberg will be leased under legal guarantee with Red Chinese characteristics to Russia for 99 years starting in 1914 CE to ensure nearly an entire century of peace. Help the poor old U.S.A. get a promise from mighty Russia that any Russian regime henceforth shall never invade Kauai, in a legal guarantee with Russian characteristics starting in 2014 CE.

I've secured for Russia, from Adriatic-Pacifica (AP) a legal guarantee that AP shall not invade Crimea for a century starting in 1917 CE when Russia will withdraw from fighting the aristocrats' war. Slave-trade sailing ships availed of the Trade Winds blowing near the Equator from West Africa to Barbados laden with Black Homo cargoes for slave auctions. Then Amazoned them to the southern U.S. with the help of the Gulf Stream all along the U.S. East Coast to buy cash crops such as tobacco from the South or manufactured goods such as a new sailing ship from the North using the proceeds from selling slaves. Then ride the Gulf Stream to the British Isles, sell off the goods from North America and stash some profits in Bermuda or England. Then take the rest of the proceed with the trip going south to West Africa to buy more war-captured Black Homo cargoes, completing the Great Gyro of the Trilateral Trade with the wind-in-the-sail stream-under-the-hull gold-to-Europe blessing of Almighty God. Looping around the Great Gyro of the Trilateral Trade ( Europe->West Africa->America->Europe ) depopulated West Africa, farmed and fostered commerce in America, and enriched Europe, thereby cementing skin color to the Gordian knot of racial superiority and inferiority complexes. You are stuck in that cement but I came from a place where I didn't even take skin color to denote any particular superiority or inferiority ( 99% Chinese there and I rarely saw any other skin colors besides my skin "molting" color change after my many fun days in the sun playing at the beautiful sandy beaches of Hong Kong; for the generations born after the [free-range] Baby Boomers as I presume that you belong to, you should count yourself lucky to have sunscreen creams or lotions to reduce the chance of skin cancers and not to be spanked by parents anymore.) I also saw dark-skinned people such as Gurkha soldiers but their skin color didn't catch my attention or register in my mind -- maybe the Gurkhas got suntanned by going to their beaches once too many times !

I'm a Baby-Boomer-II U.S. Northerner. I don't farm on any large scale because of the weak sunlight here in a cold high-latitude area, though warmed by the Gulf Stream. I dislike slavery because I don't own any slave and slavery is morally repugnant.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"US Push to 'Reign Supreme' Stokes the Ukraine Conflict: Noam Chomksy"! by C.J. Polychroniou:

Fk alone knows WTF your ever expanding screed of rambling crap is about, but your standard allusions and bleatings about "Red China" .. do not bode well! Did U even read the excerpted article, or the whole linked article?!! I think NOT - U shit spewing dolt!!!

fiat lux et temet nosce!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Note that "NATO and America now say aloud what they have planned for years - to 'break the back of Russia'. In other words, prelude to world war in which Ukraine is merely a convenient pawn.Read on:"

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 4 months ago

A moth of Mothia flew into a flame of food and wealth normalization to zero. Poo-tin did not spit well ( Mao Zedong & Richard Nixon had more practice perhaps with the KGB-bugged White-UFO spittoon between them; the "incompetent" Abwehr/Unterseeboot allowed the common DDR people to live better than the conquering U.S.S.R.'s KGB officers because they hadn't killed off their future customers such as my Dad.) He needs to be dragged by one of his ears back to kneel inside the huge circle of his influenza, for social distancing.

N.A.T.O. will greatly expand soon due to Poo-tin's ingenious "preventive"-war push for its expansion. Finland, Sweden, Moldova, and Georgia will probably try to join N.A.T.O. very soon. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to the ice-cream trucks to appear on May 9th in Red Square to placate the troops for the "Victory." [ The Chinese Civil War heroes still got their valiant service medals despite zero casualties due to each side's having been shelling each other for decades already and intelligently figured out the life-saving schedule and rhythms to protect their own troops; whether hiding the troops in bomb shelter and shelling on schedule was a silly "boys' racket," superb "heavy-firework acrobatics" with Chinese characteristics, or not, is in the eye of the beholder; Russia can just as well declare and glorify the victory if the troop casualties' count is low and simply pull the wool over the ardent "special operation" supporters' eyes yet again, like all good Reds do; make-believe can "solve" any problem; liberally bestow the troops with many valiant service medals and celebrate with a great ice-cream bash; consult the very-experienced Cheatose(R) if any help is needed; "How do I get to Carnegie Hall ?" Get back to the Russian Tea Room first and then go next door to watch the Nutcracker show before releasing any me-Thane, me-Thane, me-Thane. ] Eat ice-cream; make no wars. Blood sugar level being high helps make people satiated and calm so they don't start a coup. If Cheatose(R) were to get re-elected, I would want our soldiers at the orange inauguration to wear wetted Depend(R) pads ( tampons ? also allowed ) on their foreheads to show that they have initiative because they think, therefore they are.

D.P.R. Rustia is well blessed with year-round ice-cream availability. I used to wonder why the women seemed to be more substantive, curvaceous, or well-endowed there than other countries' women. Much ice-cream may have something to do with it. Every time I went to visit my Dad's ship, he served me ice-cream ( that huge halibut of a meal was memorable { my Big Brother took me to his Hong-Kong Government Kowloon headquarters' cafeteria to eat lunch <Char Siu (Roast Pork) noodle soup at H.K.$1.20 or U.S.$0.24 was a great and cheap entrée 《汉书·郦食其传》“王者以民为天,而民以食为天。” (biography of 郦食其 in the historical record of 汉 dynasty) > on a day in the early days of my attending secondary school; he told me that the cafeteria would accept customers from outside, too, such as me from the next-door neighboring school; we often commuted together in the morning to work and school but not afternoon because I got out of school earlier to walk home than he did from work } but Dad told me that no flipping of it was allowed { or his ship would ¿sink? according to superstition. }) The ship's engine room was extremely hot, though. I wondered what they were doing which had made its temperature so high at 50C(122°F), perhaps a maximum power test ( because when I went for a shower, that shower-head nozzle was gushing hot water so forcefully that it flew right out of my hands like a thrashing wild dragon taking off flying, impressively demonstrating Newton's Third Law of Motion.) I ran right back outside of the engine room -- I read the temperature from the big thermometer placed next to the engine room's entrance: 50C ! Dad whose workplace was the engine room didn't earn easy money to raise us, his children. This obviously entered into my decision in later adolescence to get e-duc-ated rather than just do "[literally] extremely hot" jobs.

When my Big Brother belittled the amount of money my parents had loaned him, I told him that he should appreciate what he got from them because he needed to look at the amount based upon their income level, not how much he had wanted. I was "incisive," said my Mom, who had asked me to loan him money to cover the shortfall and I said that he had already enjoyed privilege by getting some money from my parents and I wouldn't loan him the money. I got zero from them when I needed to buy a car to get to work with and worse yet, my leftover-savings-after-my-finishing-college funds were all withheld by my parents to fund him. It's why I don't believe in bailing people out repeatedly. It's a moral hazard. It's fine for me to be stubbing "toe-to-toe" and doing "dog eat dog."

Mother's Day arrives. Please your Mom with some flowery phytoporn of executed fragrant-smelling sweet-juicy phytourogenitalia. Mead, melito, medu, and 蜜 are probable linguistic cognates of the phytourogenital secretion collected by "tongues," mixed with saliva, and blown dry to have a golden-yellow-or-brown color for indefinitely long-term preservation and storage. "There's gold in them Pis." Perhaps Linear-A script of the ancient Minoans has a glyph for 蜜. I concur with my Mom's chant of the heart sutra that included the phrase 菠蘿蜜多. Pineapple's socialist minigenitals ( florets ) indeed hold much sweet juice underneath in the collective ( Magic Bean sprouts, in lyrical chant in English.)

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Per OP - "'Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire' with Michael Hudson"

Finally U shit-spewing moron: http://occupywallst.org/forum/climate-change-is-happening-now-a-carbon-price-mus/#comment-1081193 - where U'll find a permanent reply to your ongoing reactionary logorrhea that no one here is reading, never mind decoding and trying to actually understand your psychobabble!!!

ergo - temet nosce!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

"“Fortress Mentality” Among US Leaders Has Trapped Us in a Cycle of Militarism" - by Norman Solomon:

"Mainstream media and politics routinely assume that the United States is a well-meaning global giant, striving to keep dangerous adversaries at bay. So - it was just another day at the imperial office on July 19 when FBI Director Christopher Wray declared - “The Russians are trying to get us to tear ourselves apart. The Chinese are trying to manage our decline - and the Iranians are trying to get us to go away.”

"Such statements harmonize with the prevailing soundscape.The standard script asserts that the United States is powerful and besieged — mighty but always menaced — the world’s leading light, yet beset by hostile nations and other sinister forces aiming to undermine the USA’s rightful dominance of the globe.

"A fortress mindset feeds the U.S. government’s huge “defense” budget, which is higher than the military budgets of the next 10 countries combined - while the Pentagon still maintains over 750 military bases overseas. But victimology is among Washington’s official poses, in sync with a core belief that the USA is at the center of the world’s importance and must therefore police the world to the best of its capacity.

And ends with these 3 paragraphs: "What continues with countless instances of repetition compulsion - is the proclaimed vision of the United States of America leading the charge against the world’s badness. Beneath the veneer of goodness, however, systematic hypocrisy and opportunistic cruelty persist on a massive scale.

"A case in point - is Biden’s recent journey to the Middle East: The presidential trip’s prominent features included fist-bumping with a Saudi monarch whose government has caused a quarter-million deaths & vast misery with its war on Yemen, and voicing fervent support for the Israeli government as it continues to impose apartheid on the Palestinian people.

"Leaders of USA's government never tire of reasserting their commitment to human rights & democracy. At the same time - they insist that an inexhaustible supply of adversaries is bent on harming the United States, which must not run away from forceful engagement with the world. But the actual US agenda is to run the world."

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

"War Poisons Everybody": Remembering Legendary Historian Howard Zinn on His 100th Birthday"

"We remember the legendary historian, author, professor, playwright and activist Howard Zinn, who was born 100 years ago today.Zinn was a regular guest on Democracy Now! from the start of the program in 1996 up until his death in 2010 - at age 87. After witnessing the horrors of World War II as a bombardier, Zinn became a peace and justice activist who picketed with his students at Spelman College during the civil rights movement & joined in actions such as opposing the Vietnam War. He later spoke out against the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"I believe neutrality is impossible - because the world is already moving in certain directions. Wars are going on. Children are starving," Zinn said in a 2005 interview - "To be neutral … is to collaborate with whatever is going on, to allow it to happen." His classic book, "A People's History of the United States," retells the country's history from the real perspective of everyday people who resisted oppression and exploitation by more powerful forces."

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

"Whose war is the US fighting in Syria, and why?!" by Daniel Larison:

From which: "Keeping American troops in Syria has been a serious mistake that multiple administrations have failed to correct. The longer that U.S. forces illegally remain in that country, the more likely it is that one of these clashes'll result in casualties that could have been avoided. Joe Biden's administration may be reluctant to withdraw any troops from another country - after what'd happened during the Afghanistan withdrawal but their continued presence in Syria makes them targets & does nothing to make the United States more secure." Also see ...

ad iudicium - et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 1 month ago

"They got money for war, but can't feed the poor." Tupac Shakur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLQsNdhGmTw

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

"Don’t Ignore the Threat of Right-Wing Violence in Wake of Mar-a-Lago Search"! William Rivers Pitt:

The US Corporate MSM fed US populace, is no longer equipped to resist the constant PR/opaganda!

ad iudicium!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Note: "The United States has assumed the role of arbiter of good and evil, casting itself inevitably as a most decent nation with the right to condemn and punish others.

As - "History has demonstrated that America’s belief in exceptionalism has bred an arrogance that has accustomed its leaders to believe they have the right to use their political & military power destructively around the world.

But "Before condemning the behavior of other nations - America needs a national truth & reconciliation reckoning with its own violent past and present. For a country to chart a new course ... it must make its injustices visible." - from ...

'Pax Americana' ... Temet Nosce!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/

fiat lux et fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Drone Whistleblower Gets 45 Months in Prison - for Revealing Ongoing US War Crimes"! ... by Marjorie Cohn:

fiat lux et fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Consider that "1 in 3 Big Defense Contractors Profit from US Prisoner Suffering"! by Alan Macleod:

NB: "There exists a situation whereby prisoners earning pennies per hour, are making multimillion-dollar weapons - fired by individuals being paid barely $20,000 per year .. at civilians who might not make that much in their lifetimes!"

fiat lux; fiat pax; fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

Slave labor in American prisons.

Yep, this is going on right now. From your article above "Prisoners are coerced into working for as little as 23 cents per hour (minus taxes and other fees) for subcontractors who manufacture parts for Patriot missiles that cost up to $5.9 million apiece, meaning it would take nearly three thousand years of round-the-clock working for a prisoner to be able to afford what they are making."

And, "incarcerated individuals across the U.S. make electronics, harnesses and optical equipment...For this work, prisoners reportedly receive around $100 per month.

YET, NBC and CNN and many other news outlets and Biden and company are constantly bashing China over human rights issues.

Hypocrites!

Here is Amnesty International's list of human rights abuses in the United States: (Somehow they missed prison labor):

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/americas/north-america/united-states-of-america/report-united-states-of-america/

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

U$A is a "democracy" ... like I'm the fkn King of Norway! It is a demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy!! Or more precisely - a de facto Military Industrial and Banking Oligarchy!!! Furthermore, it's worth repeating that...

"Here is Amnesty International's list of Human Rights abuses in the United States (tho') somehow they missed Prison Labor ..."

et veritas vos liberabit!

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[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

make sure you don't kill his grand daughter by collateral like we did with Gaddafi

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

So guess what? "Ike Was Right!'', by Eric Margolis:

ad iudicium?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Gawd - poor thing - I hope she looks like her mom..........just sayin....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''US Weapons Makers See Stocks Surge, As Trump Moves Closer To A War With Iran'':

cave - bellum se ipsum alet!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''MLK Jr. Warned That the Poor Pay for War With Their Lives'' by Nicholas Powers:

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Coronavirus Is Exposing How Foreign Crusades Bled America’s Domestic Resources Dry'', by Murtaza Hussain:

From which - ''Even after two decades of nearly unmitigated strategic failure in the Middle East coupled with the disastrous self-harm of unchecked defense spending ... it seems that significant portions of the U.S. elite have still not awoken from their intoxication with foreign wars of choice. Amid global pandemic that could kill millions and cripple the American economy for years to come .. there are strong signs that the U.S. military might be ordered to embark on yet another war in Iraq, this time to fight Iranian-backed militias in that country whose ambitions are ultimately local to the region.'' +further to the link above, NB

spero meliora ...

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

There's no escaping inherited karma so if Iran wants to continue to kill or maim U.S. nationals directly or via proxies, the fight must go on until the parties get tired of it. I have no problem at all in defending our armed forces anywhere in the whole world.

For us, the choice of guns or butter is unnecessary. It's really for us both guns and butter, no choice between them being absolutely necessary. I personally don't like guns { my Big Brother had bought me a light assault carbine with which I didn't play much, considering it as a boring light-and-noise-maker; the slide rule was far more exciting and interesting } and my Dad hated them, too, but he went through without much choice the Battle of the Atlantic ( sunk and became POW in Westertimke, Germany ), the Pacific War ( no good idea about where he was but I can guess that he had been all over the ocean and definitely in Hawaii { as he talked of the shock which came with the day that would live in infamy and tried to teach me on a day the hula while pulling up the sides of the legs of his loose-fitting pajamas and related the Big Boys' Club's oral story about the "open" secret of the "grass skirts" which we lacked but were necessary to do the holy dance, native justice } and gained some lifelong U.S. friends ), and the Korean Conflict ( in or near Greater Yokohama { color-painted-and-faded black-and-white photograph of him in front of the Great Buddha in Kamakura }, Japan, supporting the U.S. Occupation of Japan which was where the military operations on the Korean Peninsula had been directed from; the firing of General MacArthur was a traumatic shock, maybe due to MacArthur's plan to cross the Yalu River and use nuclear bombs if necessary to finish off the Chinese Communists who were backed up and armed by the Soviet Union ). When he was caught up in these wars, it was due to inherited karma so he had to fight for decent tomorrows for his people, his parents, his family, and his children. I know that we and specifically I enjoyed the unprecedented postwar peace to which he had contributed. I like being a trust-freedom baby much more than being a trust-fund baby.

This CP/C virus' attack on the U.S. homeland could have been thwarted largely by a better-led administration, not the Moscow-Mitch administration that we've got. The "dry" rot has been going on for many years. Of course, it's absolutely not a "dry" rot but a wet rot. Its being called "dry" was a diversion from the facts.

Don't worry, the virus will attack Moscow as a splashback ( yep, it's karma again because the U.S. has grown a huge invading force of viruses despite our brave attempts to "arms-control" it ) and Redfuckgina will experience another wave ( its hiding the truth on the ground in Wuhan and trying to control the narrative outside of its cage of power will fail--here's what the CCP may well say to the caged Red Chinese chickens, "this new wave of infection is caused by foreigners invading our country because the foreign countries such as the U.S. couldn't get it under control... Your beloved CCP has banned the export of N95 masks made by 3M so that your glorious and superior motherland may protect you with them { after first trying to price-gouge worldwide like those evil foreigners of New Jersey, U.S.A. }"

Think now, with CCP's tight control of the thoughts of its people ( there were vastly more deaths than the CCP had allowed to be reported.. isn't it strangely coincidental that the CCP-reported numbers suddenly dropped precipitously when the U.S. started regaining its traditional number-one position in almost everything? ) and borders, which "foreigners" can get over there without the CCP's permission? Yep, I agree with the people who say that those "foreigners" are actually Red Chinese nationals being used as pawns by the CCP.

Just try sneaking into Redfuckgina without permission. Is it easy?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

WTF is that ^B-S^?!!! Do U think I or anyone here or anywhere, is reading^that?!! Dick! Per the OP - try:

which ends .. "Even in quarantine the people can and must go out into the streets. Mass actions can be done with safety in mind. If protesters have to wear masks and gloves for the sake of safety, then so be it. The only thing worse than U.S. aggression would be silence and complicity.

''The Soleimani assassination put thousands of people out in the streets demanding no war against Iran. This moment is one that cries out for more sustained activity & not for falling into complacency when the Trump team is seemingly quiescent.

Finally - ''There must be unquestioned support for the people of Iran and Venezuela. Any critique of their governments, no matter how valid they may be ... must be put on hold. These Sovereign Nations have a right to self-defense and their people .. a right to live in peace. Critique must be reserved for this country, its political parties, and its corporate media. They can all be counted on to march in lock step when other nations are attacked. There must be a clear resolve to be unsparing in our Principled Opposition to all of the aggressors and their accomplices should the worst come to pass.''


There U go grapes; my gripes about your usual b-s aside .. your gropes for a reasoned response will be most amusing to behold & because I'm not reading your b-s above - it doesn't mean I won't read shorter & reasoned responses to the above or any other article I or others post on this Still Extant OWS Forum!

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax - et temet nosce!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

It looks like everyone can have their nuclear weapon sovereignty, legally if that matters at all. It's time to station U.S. nuclear missiles in a new U.S. military base in Vietnam. We can let Russia verify that we are moving to Vietnam some of our nuclear missiles currently targeting Russia when the move happens.

Free Europe loves to cozy up to Russia anyway so we shouldn't be the proverbial lightbulb getting in their way of love in the dark. I hope that the Free Europeans will enjoy managing various kinds of government-issued coupons for buying goods. Different coupons of the correct kinds and quantities must accompany the purchases for oil, cloth, fish, meat, and even underwear. Before traveling to a new place, one must apply for the official permit to do so sufficiently in advance so that the central-planning government can make these important life-sustaining resources available for one to purchase in the new place to which one will be going. This elaborate procedure if accompanied by strict and meager personal allowances helps greatly in demobilizing any escaped fugitives from reeducation camps and thereby supports national security.

Europe loves regulations so these coupons will be in line with the pay-to-piss/pee need for anyone to scrounge ( presenting hardship to young kids or children on Mom's "austerity program" of a jellied doughnut and a plump finger sausage { i.e. "ein Berliner" und "ein Frankfurter" } atop "just-R|ice for all" ) for euro(s) to pay to visit a toilette. The U.S. affords more Capitalism-funded Socialism than Europe. Our fast-food restaurants often offer Free usage of their "bathrooms" ! Be aware of the term "bathroom" being a peculiar euphemistic Americanism: bathrooms in U.S. restaurants generally have No bathing facility such as a showerhead or a bathtub. Some U.S. nationals may well mistakenly ask for using your 》Badezimmer《 to excrete into because virtually all ( definitely more than 99% ) U.S. homes have at least a bathroom with toilet facility in it. Bathing and excreting tend to be more separated in venue worldwide than in Middle-Class ( having a combined facility saves on plumbing cost so it's a possible sign of poverty but having it in-home at all is a possible sign of wealth so in the U.S., we're mostly in the middle class; in my childhood shantytown, our neighborhood output facility was an extremely stinky public outhouse so I loved my satellite kiddie chamber pot ) America.

Many military and bean-counting jobs will be created on all sides for this continuing "pivot to Asia," exactly what everyone needs at this moment.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"The US is Militarily and Economically Impotent" - by Scott Ritter:

Fk only knows what U have written above OR what It means gripes...

but "Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer. He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty, in General Schwarzkopf’s staff during the Gulf War - and from 1991-1998 as a UN weapons inspector." ie. he knows his stuff whereas your brianfarts are nonsense!

fiat lux et temet nosce!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

How does a militarily and economically potent U.S. behave? Going to war? Doesn't it seem silly?

In my opinion, it's rather foolhardy to go against the Anglo nations of the world, of which the U.S.A. and the U.K. tend to lead. The U.K. is the most powerful [professional as opposed to other countries' such as Russia's conscript] military force in Europe ( excluding Russia's nuclear arsenal, of course, but if that's included, shouldn't we be including the U.S. nuclear arsenal as well? It starts to sound silly so we'll only include Poland's, Germany's, Netherlands', France's, Spain's, Italy's, Norway's, Denmark's, Belgium's.. armed forces and it seems that Russia's non-nuclear armed forces seem well outnumbered.) It also often has quite a formidable entourage ( Canada, Australia, etc.). The British Empire no longer exists but many significant former British Colonies which are now independent countries in the British Commonwealth still often act in unison with the U.K.

Maybe Redfuckgina believes that it can overcome the U.K. but it may well just be the proverbial "tip of the iceberg." Note that the Germans who were married into British royalties had match-made Americans to be married into British royalties as well so I would say that the U.S. had largely patched up with the U.K. the original split at the founding of the U.S.A. more than two centuries ago ( e.g. "Conquer Canada !" has largely lost its fervent appeal from centuries past; if 70-some years of peace has already dozed Germany off, more than twice as long a peace as that which existed between the U.S. and Canada will surely make anyone in the U.S. crying, "Conquer Canada !" appear to be either crazy or "WTF" ! ) Besides, the U.S. saved Great Britain from a sure defeat in WWII. The British Navy was the guardian for the British Isles' supply routes but the U-boats often cut them off in the early days of WWII. Then once the U.S. joined the war, it turned the tide of the war, being fought de facto in logistical supplies.

The U.S. homeland from where the supplies came wasn't much invaded by Germany's ally Japan because of our pervasive firearms culture ( more guns now than people ! Although I don't know how pervasive guns were in the U.S. at that time, I think that they were surely numerous due to our владизапад culture including blue jeans, cowboy wardrobe, etc. needed for putting down the restive original or enslaved peoples. )

The U.S. response to the Cold War produced several very significant breakthroughs: Interstate Highway System, microelectronics, artificial satellites, GPS, and ARPAnet/DARPAnet/Internet so the preparations for nuclear and high-tech wars had significant non-military spinoff which cemented the U.S. leading position to know, monitor, communicate, locate, and act domestically and globally. A speeding bullet fired by Donald Trump which hits someone on Fifth Avenue would be to that person, in White-culture reckoning emphasizing individualism, not much different from a nuclear bomb detonating in Manhattan, City of New York, N.Y.

Remember though that a Fallout Shelter can be used for different purposes, such as a place to hide from a tornado, a stash of sealed deionized water, non-perishable foods, baseball bats for hitting skulls, long sturdy-handle knives enough to pierce the heart by going in between the ribs, bayonets, glass wine bottles to be broken to make stabbing tool with jagged broken-glass sharp cutting edges, triangular stainless-steel hole-boring chisels, radios, batteries, guns, flares, and ammunition in case of civil unrest, plastic sheeting, plastic bags of different sizes, towels, first-aid supplies, duct tape, strings, ropes, scissors, raincoats, baking soda, etc. The ramps and elevators built for easing disabled people's travel are actually used for people with babies in strollers or delivery people with heavy merchandise so they're used differently than intended. Another example is the Interstate Highway System for moving large missiles all around the country but it's ended up enabling mostly White people to move away from city centers, develop banks' redlining, and defund cities to keep "some people" in their "rightful place" by throttling credit availability and government loans and grants.

As for the U.S. Marines changing strategies, it's to be expected of any flexible military force facing a changing threat environment ( Redfuckgina has gone with great resolve to break the Chain of Pearls for which the U.S. had shed blood, sweat, and tears to secure in WWII to provide peace on America's new and necessary frontier--ALWAYS remember Pearl Harbor's being sneak-attacked; nowadays with faster water vehicles, our West Coast could be attacked by Redfuckgina so the Chain of Pearls had been made the U.S. frontier for vital U.S. national security.) I doubt very much though that these new strategies include the U.S. Marines storming those rather stupid artificial molehills in the West American Warm Lake. For what? If the U.S. should go to war with Redfuckgina, they would be destroyed rather quickly, like popping weather balloons.

Should Mars be called Salty Rustia?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

So is it "foolhardy to go against the Anglo nations of the world, of which the U.S.A. & the U.K. tend to lead"? .. because just look at whereTF being led by them has led!!! Can't read your psycho-babble gropes but where U will be wasteful with words, then here I will lead with brevity and bravura. Ergo, NB:

fiat lux et pacem in terris ....

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 years ago

"The killing of Martin Luther King Jr was the ultimate result of the fusion of ugly white supremacist elites in the US government and citizenry and cowardly liberal careerists who feared King’s radical moves against empire, capitalism and white supremacy. If King were alive today, his words and witness against drone strikes, invasions, occupations, police murders, caste in Asia, Roma oppression in Europe, as well as capitalist wealth inequality and poverty, would threaten most of those who now sing his praises." - Cornell West

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/04/martin-luther-king-cornel-west-legacy

We can only imagine how different the world would be today, had he lived.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Note ''Working Class White Americans are now dying in middle age at faster rates than minority groups.'' by Alison Burke:

BECAUSE IF Martin Luther King Jr. was alive now; CLASS ISSUES WOULD BE HIS ANALYSIS, imo!

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 years ago

Deaths from despair. Alcohol, drugs, suicide.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-11-26/life-expectancy-decline-deaths-of-despair

We need a restructuring of our society and economy to end this madness. The very same economic and societal ills that gave us the Trump presidency are giving us the decline in life expectancy. These are all symptoms of inequality and greed, debt and consumerism. We need to change drastically our vision of how we want our future to be.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 years ago

Jail for Unpaid Medical Bills!!!

From https://businessmanagement.news/2019/10/16/this-is-america-where-people-go-to-jail-for-unpaid-medical-bills/

"More than half of the debt in collections stems from medical care, which, unlike most other debt, is often taken on without a choice or an understanding of the costs.

The sickest patients are often the most indebted, and they’re not exempt from arrest."

So, it's make profit off their health, then make profit off their imprisonment!!! This is on all of us. It is OUR FAULT if we let this continue.

We must fight like hell for Bernie Sanders and Medicare For All to end this madness.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Jail for Unpaid Med Bills" is so fkt up! + FYI ...

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 years ago

What has become of us? Jailing people for unpaid medical bills. Sick, sick!

Medicare for all now!

From the Democracy Now article:

"DR. STEFFIE WOOLHANDLER: Coronavirus is a very good case for Medicare for All, but, as doctors, we see the case for Medicare for All all the time. Our diabetic patients can’t afford the insulin they need to stay alive. People with chronic conditions come in late, when they’ve already gotten complications, because they can’t afford to see their doctors. Some of those people are uninsured, but many of them have insurance, but they can’t afford to use it due to copayments and deductibles. We see immigrants who are afraid to seek care because of the new draconian immigration laws that put their immigration status at risk if they use public services like healthcare. So there’s plenty of case already for Medicare for All. I think that’s the reason why the majority of exit polls show that voters overwhelmingly support the idea of Medicare for All, at least from the Democratic side."

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Consider ''Medicare for All Would Cut Poverty by Over 20 Percent''! by Matt Bruenig:

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Re. MIC: ''The Stubborn Persistence of the Military-Industrial State'' by W.D.Hartung:

I do miss U & your wit & wisdom on this still extant OWS forum & <3 2 U, R & R. Solidarity.

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Is 'War On Iran' Trump's Route to Re-election?''- by Thom Hartmann:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Re.US' Neocon "War Party", watch this BBC Panorama because 2001 explains 2020!:

respice et prospice et cave bellum se ipsum alet!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"US-Led “War on Terror” Has Devastated Much of the World" Noam Chomsky & C.J. Polychroniou:

fiat lux, fiat justitia et ergo .. fiat pax!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

"Guantánamo Isn’t Ancient History … It Has Become a “Forever Prison”! .. by J. Wells Dixon:

respice, adspice, prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

"Civilian Deaths Mounted as Secret Unit Pounded ISIS" by NYT journos:

"An American strike cell alarmed its partners as it raced to defeat the enemy."

via: https://mrgwydionmwilliams.quora.com/USA-Waging-War-Without-Rules

e tenebris lux!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

Terms

Obama's posterior coverage: Congressional approval for Syria strike

Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/emea-watch/2013/aug/31/obama-will-seek-input-congress-going-war-syria/#ixzz2dg3cKdiO Follow us: @wtcommunities on Twitter

There is not much faith in congress

they voted near anonymously, I mean unanimously for the iraq war

One Tin Soldier - The Legend of Billy Jack

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"FBI launches open attack on ‘foreign’ alternative media outlets challenging US foreign policy":

omnia causa fiunt!

[-] 5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

TWEET

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

NoWarWithSyria see also http://democracyforamerica.com/pages/857-dfa-membership-survey-syria?akid=3863.2041858._mFx6n&rd=1&source=ND2&t=1

Wage Peace

Don't perpetuate war

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[-] 3 points by Narley (272) 9 years ago

Peace is the only way. We must stop the war mongers this time. I have called and emailed my congressman. This is surreal, how can anyone think attacking Syria will turn out good.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 9 years ago

The same way they thought the last 7 nations... out of sight, out of mind.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

For a fictional exposition of the facts to follow your interesting aside, please consider :

Where are we at ?!!! How'd we get here ?!! Why is more war considered a good thing ?!

et cui bono ?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

The real roots of Jihadism: Chris Hedges with Max Blumenthal ...

''Chris Hedges talks to author and journalist Max Blumenthal about the intimate connection between the misguided support the United States has given to international Jihadism – starting with over $1billion Washington gave to the Afghan Mujahideen in the 1970s – and the rise of neo-fascists and ultra-nationalist movements in Europe and the US. Blumenthal’s new book ‘The Management of Savagery: How America’s National Security State Fueled the Rise of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Donald Trump’ was published in April 2019 by Verso Books.''

ESSENTIAL VIEWING as Hedges and Blumenthal discus MB's book ... 'The Management of Savagery', detailing the US national security state's role in fueling international jihadism & far-right nationalism. Also explained is how a young Netanyahu marketed a "war on terror" to the US!

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''How U.S. weapons ended up bombing hospitals in Yemen'':

WARNING .. Video should only be watched by a mature person.

e tenebris, tenebris!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''The Trump-Bolton Duo is like Bush-Cheney Duo: Warmongers Using Lies to Start Illegal Wars!''

caveat actor!

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''HOW THE CIA WATCHED OVER THE DESTRUCTION OF GARY WEBB'' ... by Ryan Devereaux:

From which ... ''Eighteen years after it was published, “Dark Alliance,” the San Jose Mercury News’s bombshell investigation into links between the cocaine trade, Nicaragua’s Contra rebels, and African American neighborhoods in California, remains one of the most explosive and controversial exposés in American journalism.

''The 20,000-word series enraged black communities, prompted Congressional hearings, and became one of the first major national security stories in history to blow up online. It also sparked an aggressive backlash from the nation’s most powerful media outlets, which devoted considerable resources to discredit author Gary Webb’s reporting. Their efforts succeeded, costing Webb his career. On December 10, 2004, the journalist was found dead in his apartment, having ended his eight-year downfall with two .38-caliber bullets to the head.''

And (Webb once) ... ''reflected on his fall from grace in the 2002 book, 'Into the Buzzsaw'. Prior to “Dark Alliance,” Webb said, “I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows, and judging journalism contests.”

“And then I wrote some stories that made me realize how sadly misplaced my bliss had been. The reason I’d enjoyed such smooth sailing for so long hadn’t been, as I’d assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job,” Webb wrote. “The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn’t written anything important enough to suppress.”


This incredibly important story was also made into a major motion picture - "KILL THE MESSENGER" :

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case.".. by Whitney Webb:

Epstein is only the latest incarnation of a much older, more extensive & sophisticated operation that offers a very frightening window into just how deeply tied the U.S. Government is to the modern-day equivalents of organized crime. All articles above are by Whitney Webb.

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Re. the Epstein/Maxwell case - it really is very weird how this keeps happening but Jean-Luc Brunel, French lawyer & "Model Agency Boss", and ... the man accused of soliciting underage girls for (already 'suicided'?) paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, has now been found dead of an apparent suicide in his jail cell, weirdly mirroring that of Epstein himself! Maxwell, I speculate is very scared now!

Yet folk will still wonder why so many people are becoming "Conspiracy Theorists” & so, won't listen to Corporate Main Stream Media narratives about current and indeed, past events?!!

There is more here below tho' of course it will NOT be the full story, although IF U want more of that, I STRONGLY suggest scrolling this sub-thread UP and then, down and good luck!!!

e tenebris - lux?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Sprawling financial investigation into Jeffrey Epstein underway in U.S. Virgin Islands."

NEW: "US Virgin Islands investigators have been unraveling Epstein’s financial empire for over a year, targeting fine art companies, auction houses, hedge funds, global banks, and power players. The now-sprawling probe shows no signs of slowing down." via ...

caveat actor!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Ken Starr helped Jeffrey Epstein with ‘scorched-earth’ campaign, book claims"! by Ed Pilkington:

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Consider: "The Jeffrey Epstein Cover Up . . . Pedophilia, Lies, and Videotape"! .. by Nick Bryant:

NB "Numerous procurers and perpetrators integral to Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell’s crimes against children have not been indicted & current officials are finding new ways to obfuscate the sordid truth."

sub rosa?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Bill Gates: Epstein meetings a huge mistake"! Report+Vid:

So wasn't Gates' friendship with Epstein why Melinda left him?!

What was the nature of the friendship? Is Gates a paedophile?!

multum in parvo?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"The Trial of Ghislaine Maxwel!" ... by Chris Hedges and Nick Bryant:

e tenebris - tenebris!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

"Ghislaine Maxwell Convicted" by Philip Giraldi:

"There has been a lot of speculation regarding whether convicted sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell will now "spill the beans" on the folks in power who exploited those young female offerings pedophile Jeffrey Epstein made available. No chance of that, I am afraid, as the trial itself was narrowly construed and limited to certain sex related charges to avoid any inquiry into the names of the actual recipients of the services being provided.

"Nor was there any attempt made to determine if Epstein was working on behalf of a foreign intelligence service, most likely Israeli, which has been claimed in a recent book by a former Israeli case officer, who states that top politicians would be photographed and video recorded when they were in bed with the girls. Afterwards, they would be approached and asked to do favors for Israel. It is referred to in the trade as a "honey-trap" operation.

"The fact that Epstein and his activities were being “protected” has also been confirmed through both Israeli and American sources. It is known that Bill Clinton flew on the Epstein private 727 jet the "Lolita Express" 26 times, traveling to a mansion estate in Florida as well as to a private island owned by Epstein in the Caribbean. The island was referred to by locals as the “Pedophile Island," but Clinton has never even been questioned by either the NYPD or FBI.

"Maxwell is presumed to have been an active participant in the Epstein spy operation acting as a procurer of young girls and on at least one occasion has hinted that she knows where the sex films made by Epstein are hidden. That claim was also not explored in what passed for a trial.

"It doesn’t take much to pull what is already known together and ask the question “Who among the celebrities and top-level politicians that Epstein cultivated were actually Israeli spies?” But that, of course, is where the judicial farce and cover-up began. We are in an era of government control of information and have just been witnessing selective management of what Maxwell was being charged with to eliminate any possible damage to senior US politicians or to Israel.

"If anyone had actually expected the espionage angle to surface even implicitly during the Maxwell trial, they must now be terribly disappointed because Alison Nathan, the Obama appointed judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York did not allow it, the prosecutor did not seek it, and even the defense attorneys did not use it in their arguments."

et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

"The trial of Ghislaine Maxwell which began this week in Manhattan will not hold to account the powerful and wealthy men who are also complicit in the sexual assaults of girls as young as twelve Maxwell allegedly procured for billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

"Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, hedge-fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former Secretary of the Treasury and former president of Harvard Larry Summers, Stephen Pinker, Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, billionaire Victoria’s Secret CEO Les Wexner, the J.P Morgan banker Jes Staley, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barack, real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, former Maine senator George Mitchell, Harvey Weinstein and many others who were at least present and most likely participated in Epstein’s perpetual Bacchanalia, are not in court.

"The law firms and high-priced attorneys, federal and state prosecutors, private investigators, personal assistants, publicists, servants, drivers and numerous other procurers, sometimes women, who made Epstein’s crimes possible are not being investigated.

"Those in the media, the political arena and the entertainment industry who aggressively and often viciously shut down and discredited the few voices, including those of a handful of intrepid reporters, who sought to shine a light on the crimes committed by Epstein and his circle of accomplices are not on trial.

"The videos that Epstein apparently collected of his guests engaged in their sexual escapades with teenage and underage girls from the cameras he had installed in his opulent residences and on his private island have mysteriously disappeared, most probably into the black hole of the FBI, along with other crucial evidence. Epstein’s death in a New York jail cell, while officially ruled a suicide, is in the eyes of many credible investigators a murder. With Epstein dead, and Maxwell sacrificed, the ruling oligarchs will once again escape justice.

"The Epstein case is important because, however much is being covered up, it is a window into the scourge of male violence that explodes in decayed cultures, fueled by widening income disparities, the collapse of the social contract and the grotesque entitlement that comes with celebrity, political power, and wealth. When a ruling elite perverts all institutions, including the courts, into instruments that serve the exclusive interests of the entitled, when it willfully neglects and abandons larger and larger segments of the population, girls and women always suffer disproportionally. The struggle for equal pay, equal distribution of wealth and resources, access to welfare, legal aid that offers adequate protection under the law, social services, job training, healthcare, and education services, have been so degraded they barely exist for the poor, especially poor girls and women.

"Epstein, who regularly entertained & funded the work of (a) Harvard faculty, was made a visiting fellow in Harvard’s Department of Psychology, although he had no academic qualifications that made him eligible for the position. He was given a key card and pass code, as well as an office, in the building that housed Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics. He referred to himself in his press releases as “Science Philanthropist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Education activist Jeffrey Epstein,” “Evolutionary Jeffrey Epstein,” “Science patron Jeffrey Epstein” and “Maverick hedge funder Jeffrey Epstein.”

"The judicial system, for years, worked to protect Epstein. The legal anomalies, including the disappearance of massive amounts of evidence incriminating Epstein, saw Epstein avoid federal sex-trafficking charges in 2007 when his attorneys negotiated a secret deal with Alex Acosta in the U.S. attorney’s office in Miami to plead guilty to lesser state charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution.

"The prominent men accused of also engaging in Epstein’s carnival of pedophilia, including the attorney and former Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, brazenly lie and threaten anyone daring to call them out. Dershowitz, for example, claims that an investigation, which he has refused to make public, by the former FBI director Louis Freeh proves he had never had sex with one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Giuffre." - from:

From which, note ... "Numerous procurers and perpetrators integral to Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell’s crimes against children have not been indicted, and current officials are finding new ways to obfuscate the sordid truth"!!

too yuck for latin!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Bombshell : Epstein accuser NAMES former Israeli Prime Minister!" by 'The Hill':

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Consider "What We Know About Jeffrey Epstein’s Private Jet, the ‘Lolita Express’" - by M. Lodi:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

For sure "Powerful men are scared about what Ghislaine Maxwell will say!" by Maureen Callahan:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Ghislaine Maxwell 'has tapes of two prominent US politicians having sex with minors', & boasted of 'owning' powerful people, former friend and jewel thief claims" by Katie Weston:

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Epstein Case Judge's Son Murdered and Husband Shot by Mystery Assailant ... who was then himself 'suicided', also had links to US/Israel Intel Agencies! + FYI...

From 2nd link above, consider - "While Epstein’s egregious and criminal actions targeting minors have now become public knowledge, in role in facilitating white collar crime, money laundering and financial frauds on behalf of corporations, governments & oligarchs - remains sorely under-covered, despite his role in such activities preceding and continuing after his involvement in an "Intelligence-Linked Sexual Blackmail Operation.

"It arguably remains one of the key components of the Epstein scandal yet the most poorly understood and most under-investigated. If anything, the tragic events at the Salas family home on Sunday & what appears to be a rapid yet shoddy cover-up of the shooter’s ties to Kroll Associates and - Actual Motives, reveal that Epstein’s financial ties are more frightening to certain powerful individuals & institutions than his trove of sexual blackmail."

sub rosa?!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 years ago

So He was put on suicide watch

Who took him off of suicide watch

If he actually was - Why?

Just how many influential People was he gonna expose when he got to the court proceedings? I mean besides the Orange Career Criminal-n-Chief!

Suicide?

Really?

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing politicians for Israel’s Mossad, new book claims" from here

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Epstein Case: Documentaries Won’t Touch Tales of Intel Ties" by Elizabeth Vos:

From which "More than nine months since Epstein’s death, no alleged Epstein co-conspirator has been arrested or charged with a crime despite reports of an active criminal investigation of Maxwell (who has disappeared), and multiple failed attempts of alleged Epstein victims to serve her with civil suits.

“The criminal case against him .. and all the evidence that was gathered against him as part of that, will never be made public unless someone else is charged,” said Webb. “So - the fact they are not charging anyone else is quite telling, & the fact that the mainstream media isn’t pushing back against that, I think is telling as well.”

"Omissions of major aspects of the Epstein case by the media - specifically its links with the intelligence community - seems to be another example of a buffer between justice & those responsible for rendering Epstein untouchable."

e tenebris, tenebris!

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"The Epstein Associate Nobody's Talking About .. The IDF-Linked Bond Girl Infiltrating the UK's NHS"! by Jonny Vedmore:

sub rosa?

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Epstein Docs Unsealed, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Dershowitz Named" ... Watch - 'The Hill':

"Krystal and Saagar share their thoughts on new documents revealing the names of powerful people who allegedly visited Jeffrey Epstein's private island."

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

"Prince Andrew scandal explodes as FBI investigates Ghislaine Maxwell’s UK contacts"!

The Epstein, Maxwell, Prince Pervert etc related links, that are embedded in this forum-post here, including those below - constitute a chronological record of events and facts - some of which now appear to being actively "forgotten" by US/UK MSM! I encourage any and all readers to reprise in interests of maintaining the information for a posterity that would be fact free if The 0.01% prevail!

caveat et multum in parvo!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Broken bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s neck, deepen questions around his death''by Carol D. Leonnig:

''According to experts - Epstein's neck injuries 'are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation' than suicide by hanging.''

''An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein suffered multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.

''Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.

''The details are the first findings to emerge from the autopsy of Epstein, a convicted sex offender and multimillionaire in federal custody on charges of sex trafficking. He died early Saturday morning after guards found him hanging in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan and he could not be revived.''

hmmmm ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries look more like murder than suicide .. noted pathologist says''!

e tenebris - tenebris!

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Leak exposes ABC’s ‘Epstein coverup’!"

So ABC's Amy ''Robach said she believes “100 percent” Epstein was murdered.''Do I think he was killed? A hundred percent, yes I do. He made all his living blackmailing people. There were a lot of men in those planes, a lot of men who visited that island, a lot of powerful men who came into that apartment.''

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Jeffrey Epstein's socialite 'madam' may be hiding in a safe house in Israel''by Keith Griffith

''Ghislaine Maxwell 'is being hidden from the FBI in a series of safe houses because of all of the information she has on powerful people.'"

sub rosa?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

The threat of being murdered is a good reason to avoid getting involved with prostitution, pimping, underage prostitution, gambling, sex and drug trafficking, and drug abuse.

crime scenes within the isolation of prisons can be tainted and even staged.

"There’s always concern that if the only reporting you are getting is from those 
involved in the care of that inmate that it may be biased,’’ Baden said.

This is a reason why many corrupt regimes attack journalists, in order to control the narrative outside of their cages of power.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Prince Andrew is stonewalling Jeffrey Epstein probe, U.S. attorney says'' .. by Kevin G. Hall

''Typically, any Justice Department official seeking legal assistance from another country makes that request through diplomatic channels via the State Department. It is unclear if that happened in this case. Officials from the State Department, FBI, British Embassy in Washington and Berman’s office did not respond to requests for comment. The Justice Department, which is investigating Epstein’s death at the direction of Attorney General William Barr, referred inquiries back to Berman’s office.

''That action itself came on the heels of a 61-page report on Jan. 10 from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, detailing how faculty and administrators at the prestigious university maintained personal and financial relations with Epstein even after a 2008 deal that allowed him to escape serious punishment by pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor.

''The Berman announcement also comes as speculation grows into the whereabouts of Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s girlfriend and longtime business associate who his victims allege served as a madam who procured underage girls to feed his predilections. Her whereabouts have been a mystery since immediately after Epstein’s jail cell hanging, which was termed a suicide, although some — including Epstein’s brother — have expressed doubts about that finding.''

fiat lux …

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Fresh questions for Prince Andrew over Epstein abuse'' ...

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Note ''The Epstein Mystery'' ... by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts:

''It is not possible to commit suicide when a person is on suicide watch. Former inmates and prison guards and correctional personnel have stated with certainty that Epstein did not commit suicide by hanging himself.

''The only questions before us are: Was Epstein murdered in order to protect members of the elite? Was Epstein switched out by the Deep State and a dead person of similar appearance left in his place?

''Last week those who said that Epstein would not make it to trial because so many prominent people would be implicated were dismissed as “conspiracy theorists.” This week we know the “conspiracy theorists” were right. Epstein did not make it to trial.

''When you hear someone trying to discredit a view by calling it a “conspiracy theory,” be suspicious. The CIA invented “conspiracy theory” in order to control the explanation of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination by discrediting skeptics of the official explanation.

''We won’t know that Epstein is not alive and enjoying life with underage females in a CIA safe house until people who knew him well and are not endangered by investigation of his pedophile activities identify the body, and non-official, non-governmental experts identify the body via DNA. Even with these steps, we cannot know that investigators were not bribed or threatened.

''Much will be done to add to the confusion and doubt. Already we have a delayed autopsy report, and involvement of a pathologist who supported the unbelievable single bullet explanation of President Kennedy’s murder. [ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-11/epsteins-autopsy-results-delayed-pending-further-information ]

''Contradictory information grows by the day. Now there are reports, allegedly from official sources, that Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his “suicide.” This report is necessary to support the verdict of suicide as suicide is not possible in a suicide-proof cell.

''The odds are heavy against us ever being given a clear and convincing explanation. The only way you can know is to study the situation very carefully, consider the ever-changing story, and make up your own mind. Official explanations, such as President Kennedy’s assassination, Robert Kennedy’s assassination, Martin Luther King’s assassination, the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, and 9/11, are never correct.

''Epstein’s trial would have discredited the American elite and simply was not permitted to happen. For the same reason, we will never know what really happened to Epstein.''

omnia causa fiunt!


PS: ''Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was a columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are 'The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism' and 'Economic Dissolution of the West', 'How America Was Lost', and .. 'The Neoconservative Threat to World Order'.''

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Russia Hoax Coup & Epstein Interlocked'' (by Kevin Shipp and Greg Hunter):

''Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp says the Russian hoax and attempted coup of President Trump and the sex trafficking case against Jeffery Epstein are linked together by the same Deep State players. Shipp explains, “The FBI has completely raided his vault, and they have some pretty damning material. I don’t know why it took so long, but they have raided Epstein’s island . . . So, there is a lot of damning information the FBI has now on certain people. At the top of the list, and the one who flew the most, was Bill Clinton. Then he lied about it. They are intertwined in that regard and with the Clinton Foundation that we know is a fraud. It is known around the world, and you’ve got these two intersections with Bill and Hillary Clinton. Of course, Hillary Clinton is tied to the dossier in an attempt to get rid of Donald Trump. So, these webs interlocked with each other, and these people interlock with each other. Welcome to the global elite. Welcome to human trafficking. These things are connected, and with Epstein dead, there are a lot of prominent people breathing a sigh of relief—for now. Is Barr aggressive enough? He says he is going to pursue this case anyway. Is he going to call in the people seen on the CD’s, videos and photographs? That remains to be seen.

''On Epstein’s officially ruled suicide while in prison, Shipp says, “Epstein tries to commit ‘suicide,’ and his cellmate, a four-time convicted murderer, said he didn’t see (or hear) it because he had his headphones on. Attorney General William Barr was in charge of the safety of Jeffery Epstein. There should have been an entire contingent of U.S. Marshals to protect this huge witness, but there were none. Why is that? . . . . It is just unbelievable how they left this huge witness to die in prison. The prison guards were off, as we know. The cameras were not functioning. He was taken off of suicide watch and on and on we go. There are so many things that add up to this not being a suicide that it is remarkable. . . . We are all still hoping that Attorney General Barr will do his job and people are charged, but this is starting to bother me a little bit. A major witness that was connected to high level people in government and finance was left alone to die in prison, and I think he was murdered. This was all left to happen by William Barr. The pieces to this just don’t add up. . . .We’ve got so many strange things going on here that do not add up, and Attorney General Barr is ultimately responsible for this happening.”

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Judges call Jeffrey Epstein case a ‘national disgrace,’ but reject bid to undo deal", by Jay Weaver & Julie K. Brown:

FIAT JUSTITIA ... RUAT CAELUM!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

The Epstein; Weinstein Nexus ...

e tenebris - tenebris!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Apparently, ''Epstein was an Israeli intelligence operation - entraping powerful individuals and politicians in the United States'', by Philip Giraldi:

Btw, ''Philip Giraldi is a former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA",

& "I was told 'Epstein belonged to Intelligence' and to leave it alone" (ex-Trump Labor Sec. Acosta) ...

multum in parvo?

[-] -1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Epstein/Weinstein/'Black Cube'/HRC - when the rich and powerful and influential are NOT held to account, then some really serious questions have to be urgently asked by all of us actually!

I won't spoon feed any conclusions that may be drawn from the info above, as I'll leave that to the readers of these boards - who are more numerous than we who still write here, appreciate!

fiat lux et fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 years ago

Apparent suicide. Manhattan has a Fuckeasy, not a Resteasy, I guess.

According to the news article, sources said that his defense lawyers helped in the process of getting him off of suicide watch.

Where's James? Is he "on top of the situation," as usual?

Aww, Russia doesn't like the mistressturbation of its erections. How cute, but gay! Trumpanzia just loved the masturbation of our elections and would like more, more, and more. We are wide-open spread-eagled, for we work in "Man heeft ding" Fuckeasy in "the land of the free and the home of the brave." Yeah, it was a great attempt to erect the Great InfoWall of Russia. It's great that no radiation was detected by Norway. This is why Russia Today (RT) is such an important news source about ourselves, in the same way that Norway tells more of at least partial truths (the complete truths are "assembly-required;" it's the impossibility of assembling the complete truth by collecting and examining every happenings that requires human justice systems in the U.S. to circumscribe the scope and protect the integrity of any justice investigation so any "obstruction of justice" is or should be severely punished but putting up a good fight while obeying the rules in the adversarial systems is and should be encouraged as innocence matters {I do support Mom's old-school butt-spanking my Big Brother over this} ) about Russia to the Russians than Russia itself. In earlier decades, Radio Moscow provided an interesting twist and refreshing perspective on the news events when shortwave radio was global and astounding in its days. Internet Research Agency is not a uniquely Russian invention. Everyone can start one.

Russia needs to cut its copper wires for sale (I wonder whether the DPRK is so dark at night in ISS videos because of this. If its sky isn't too polluted by the smog from Red China, maybe we can see lots of stars from there, a great location perhaps for an astronomical observatory without much light pollution. Another hypothesis of mine is that the DPRK has been in a blackout to avoid guiding the bombing air-raid aircraft which may come anytime due to the unconcluded armed conflict but why is Pyongyang still lit up, though? Is it a decoy?) It will stop the internet social media companies from transmitting interference for sure (yeah, "kill the messenger!" and preserve the royalty of "Russian science!" "Aryan"-"German science" lost to Mongrel-"Jewish science" in WWII in the race to build the first A-bomb literally on the issue of the purity of the graphite used by Enrico Fermi et al downunder in a squash court of the University of Chicago and of the {surely not "Aryan"} scientific team assembled for the Manhattan Project {although largely done elsewhere due to the U-boat up-the-Hudson threat, some experiments were actually done in Manhattan where the two most world-shaping-and-shaking technologies of the 20th century: transistor and nuclear, were originated and incubated.} ) God has a molten-copper face. "Denk an Deine Sünden."

Our globalized world's helpline said years ago.

Here's why Hong Kong is a linchpin for U.S. National Security. Find the ends of the "String of Pearls." The toughest and most savage (George H.W. Bush could have been eaten while alive by the Japanese soldiers one piece at a time) battles in WWII for the U.S. was fought near and on the island chains of the southern and western Pacific. The Brits knew how to pick strategic ports for the Crown such as Gibraltar, Singapore, and the very last Crown Colony Hong Kong, which is very far away from the Brits' home in northwestern Europe and whose handover on July 1st, 1997 to Red China marked the official end of the British Empire. The problem there now relates to the new owner having broken repeatedly the terms of the handover in its quest to become the Chinese Empire (but the U.S. whose global lording over most seas and oceans underpinned the greatest global economic expansion ever gets "in its way.") Many Hong Kongers, especially the younger ones, feel themselves being trapped into a suffocating dead-end.

[-] -1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Surveillance video from Jeffrey Epstein's first apparent suicide attempt 'no longer exists'!"

WTF?!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

Could it be that a precursor of 武汉's ( Martial Craft Chinese ) novel 80%-genetic-makeup-similar-to-SARS coronavirus had actually infected the E=MCC Microsoft Windows/Denial-Of-Service computer so that all we've got left are the Microsoft default state of a DOS lightbulb and the infamous Microsoft blue screen of death?

It's never a good idea to visit the nadir under a high-tension transmission line just before, during an upcoming, or shortly after an outgoing thunderstorm. Unfortunately, innocent civilians were killed in a long line of military shootdowns of civilian airliners during tense times. All parties should seek the reduction of tensions. I send my condolences to the many victims, their relatives, and friends.

Television brought me the indelible images: the seemingly never-ending parade of black hearse carrying Dutch victims, the bobbing belongings of the deceased U.S. passengers in the ocean water, the long streaks of white toilet paper falling from the blue sky where the ill-fated airplane and passengers had been... --all were innocent civilians caught up unwittingly in conflict fault-lines and zones, man-made.

Commentator fatesrider wrote regarding Iran's announcement regarding the downing of the Ukrainian airliner:

The government's statement blamed "US terrorist forces' military flights around the 
country" for "increased ... sensitivity in air defense complexes," which led to Iran's 
defense forces being "on the highest level of preparedness to respond to possible 
threats."
Sounds good, if it had been true. But it wasn't. There was NO American military 
response to the Iranian rocket attack. And I was exactly correct in saying what I said 
three days ago. The Iranians went on high alert after their missile attack, timed to 
happen during a lull in civil aviation flights. They relied on scheduled departure times to 
determine who was a friendly and who wasn't. The Ukrainian airliner departed an hour 
later than scheduled.

A civil airliner would NEVER approach a "sensitive military area" especially during a 
time of heightened tensions in the region. Air spaces are restricted and pilots know 
where they are. A modern airliner would not be off course.

So it was all lies to begin with, and still are. The fact is, their air defense system can't 
tell friend from foe. They literally COULD NOT identify the aircraft they shot at first with 
the equipment they had (it's the same kind of air defense system that accidentally shot 
down a Russian airliner in Syria in 2018, also for the same reason that it couldn't 
identify a foe from a friend). They just knew that the aircraft flying wasn't scheduled to 
be there and shot at it. Then they sat on the news for three days before admitting fault.

One might argue about "whose fault it is", but the fact is, this was a completely unforced 
error demonstrating the general incompetence of the Iranian military and the guile of 
the Iranian leadership. This has been evident by their mock-ups and fake "victories" 
over the years. But they fought a low-end peer like Iraq to a draw, which actually ended 
much worse for Iran than Iraq. Their lack of military prowess is why they want nukes, 
which is why they shouldn't be allowed to get them.

It's a MAJOR embarrassment for the Iranian military forces, and Iran in particular.

Doesn't the above make more sense and is more probable than Iran's announcement itself?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Re. Jeffrey Epstein - see the twelve tweet twitter thread that starts with this:

I link to the above, as this mini-thread is about Epstein. Can U stick to that?

spero meliora ...

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

I read that Jeffrey Epstein was praised as a "terrific guy" by Donald J. Trump.

Were they just having yet another bromance? Trump was very gay with Pootin the Great (Moscow Trump), Erdoğan (Istanbul Trump preferred getting it via Washingtongue, Diseased,) Kim Jong-un (has the World's tallest [unfinished/unopened] hotel: Pyongyang Trump is better than Trump Tower in sheer thrust (Florence at one time was greatly laughed at by all of its neighbors for having built a church with the greatest nonexistent dome { where God shed His liquid gold on the praying worshipers to make them either hide or become all wet } whose completion via studying the ancient Roman Empire architectural structures and knowledge ushered in the Renaissance which propelled Europe to global prominence); KJU and DJT are in the same business-owned Free-Fuckgina-state so they're highly compatible and understandable to each other; DJT needs to learn beeping from the Russians how to use toilette tanks to storm, douche, and flush out Casa Blanca but don't let anyone grab the manly balls--it's not a test; "Build it and the customers will come!" Why don't the tourists come to Pyongyang Trump en masse? It needs Trump[anzee] branding to make it exciting like a zoo { the last word on my first kindergarten's vocabulary book, after bus, butter, car <the most favorite place for American teenagers to 'grab a pussy' for the first time, now you know why getting one's driver's license is such a Big Deal; even a bigger deal than that is the getting of one's own set of car keys to one's own car so that one can "park">, cat.., gun.., vase[¿ctomy "sanitized" for the kindergartners?], of course, you'll understand if you know the order of the Roman alphabets of English; I've never realized how much I'd learnt about life <e.g. butter comes before gun> from that kindergarten!} of man-eating moths in a Bushfire; dependence on authoritarianism induces metastability, often only resolvable through a great destruction; democratic elections and subsequent reforms are generally far less destructive than civil wars and revolutions "peace is the handmaiden of prosperity," both the DPRK and the ROK had largely enjoyed peace since the Korean Conflict but the DPRK kept on preparing for a war which had never come so despite its original great industrial strength built up by the Imperial Japanese, it fell greatly behind the ROK politically, diplomatically, economically, and culturally; I suppose that if a DPRK slave's income became twenty times greater, it would enable their quality of life to become far more like that of an ROK person's; yeah, the U.S. did extend its defense umbrella over the ROK but we also did it for Japan and Germany after they had been conquered; my Dad used to say that these "loser" countries' people live better than the "winner" countries' people so to whom one loses { or colonizes if you so prefer; the U.S. is in a number of ways serving the traditional role of an overseas colony to Japan; we sold raw materials to Japan and bought manufactured goods from it so Japan no longer had to satisfy its colonial needs using its neighbors as much as it did before and during WWII,} can make a huge difference,) too, so there was no surprise to me there. The underaged girls involved were surprising though because a truly gay person doesn't fly with underaged girls. I correct myself: a truly gay person doesn't fly with females of the species, underaged or otherwise. If a person flies with both males and females, that person is actually classified as a bisexual, not gay. Of course, there may very well be Fake Gays who use their pretended gayness in order to gain trust and get close enough to the females of the species so that they can fly with them.

Maybe the Trump Shuttles had already gone bankrupt by then so Trump had to catch flights in a different way with his 'hood-bro. With bankruptcies and intrigues, life, being grounded, in Dynasty can be tough! What with all of the eyes' screams coming down the 'pike...

"Innocent until proven guilty" is the American way (the bail system had come from England which invented [aristocratic originally but expanded afterwards to others'] rights; it wasn't an American invention.)

[-] 0 points by 99nproud (2697) 8 years ago

The language of PEACE should be adopted when interacting on the issues of war around the world (Syria, middle east, Ukraine, etc )

We can not resolve war by joining in the verbal violence that currently dominates international dialogue.

We can identify the war mongers/verbal violence purveyors, but should focus our energies on pushing PEACE.

Cease fires, Diplomacy, Negotiation, compromise, international tribunals, disarmament,

These elements of de-escalation should be reflected in our conversation.

The Occupy movement certainly illustrates the power of simply changing the dialogue of an issue.

"All we are sayin' is Give PEACE a Chance"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGJqck5y91o

[-] -1 points by buliau (-29) 9 years ago

I don't care for Tweets, but I'll be sharing this at the next protest on September 17th. We need to fight this Obamination of a war idea.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

"We recognize that peace cannot be reached through bombs, drone attacks, and murder; peace is created through compassion and forgiveness, which must come from within."

That pretty much says it all. Thank you.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

'Who Are You To Decide That You Will Launch A War ?" - George Galloway in UK Parliament :

fiat pax ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

"...The question is are they mad enough to do it? To launch a chemical weapons attack in Damascus on the very day that a UN chemical weapons inspection team arrives in Damascus must be a new definition of madness."

Thank you George Galloway. Truth there. See 2:03 of the video.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

Yep, can't get enough of George and his passionate advocacy for fairness and peace & also fyi :

fiat lux ...

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

47% of taxpayer money goes to the military, past and present. Interesting. They need a lot of belligerence to justify that. Thanks for the pie chart.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

Turns out that its 57% of discretionary spending, as per some charts and stats you appended on another thread and I reply (as I may have there, lol) with this short but really very arresting video :

fiat pax ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

A great history lesson in 9 minutes. Well worth watching, thanks.

What stands out to me is that the military pays for 234 golf courses with our money. Freaking outrageous! Pretty much says it all.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

Wars wouldn't happen if Banksters didn't see profit and/or Imperialists and Oligarchs didn't see and salivate at the prospect of ever more power and resources & ergo, as a humorous aside, I append :

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

I like the "Dance Break." LOL. Now, if only we could get more Americans to sing those sentiments. Class struggle seems to be more embedded in the UK and Europe in general, but we Americans are slowly awakening.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

Americans are taught to forget their past of collective organisation and struggle by The Corporate MSM & (mis)education system even as Modern High-Finance ; Low Ethics Crapitalism (ie. Modern Corporate Banksterism / 'Hoover-Up Kaputalism' ) is so clearly seen as a busted flush and any honest person, in possession of the most rudimentary ethical compass can clearly see that. Solidarity and here's hoping that Americans can reconnect with their own history :

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

This is why I was so happy when OWS first took off. It was simply amazing to see Americans begin to wake up to class consciousness. I never thought it would happen in my lifetime.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

mmmPHATic ditto et dum spiro spero ...

The Revolution Continues Worldwide ..

pax et lux ; nunc et semper ... .. .

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

Hey, yeah, this is a revolutionary movement, lest we forget. That means big change, a new system altogether.

Do you know this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHwcPgQ-q6o

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

Very nice tune indeed & yes bw I do & so mS2u ~

bonne nuit ..

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23644) 9 years ago

:) Sweet. Mine to you, too. 'Night.

[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5909) 9 years ago

Chris Hedges on Obama's Decision to Attack Syria and "Give Congress a Voice"

Sunday, 01 September 2013 13:28 By Paul Jay, The Real News Network | Video Interview

http://truth-out.org/news/item/18533-chris-hedges-on-obama-decision-to-attack-syria-and-give-congress-a-voice


The Lie of "Limited War" in Syria

Monday, 02 September 2013 14:36 By Shamus Cooke, The Workers Action | Op-Ed

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/18548-the-lie-of-limited-war-in-syria


Possible Consequences of a US military attack on Syria—Remembering the Marine Barracks destruction in Beirut, 1983

Monday, 02 September 2013 14:47 By Ann Wright, War Is a Crime | News Analysis

http://truth-out.org/news/item/18549-possible-consequences-of-a-us-military-attack-on-syria-remembering-the-marine-barracks-destruction-in-beirut-1983


The "Honest Broker" is Crooked

Monday, 02 September 2013 09:50 By Noam Chomsky, Truthout | News Analysis

http://truth-out.org/news/item/18535-the-honest-broker-is-crooked

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 9 years ago

Photography by hamde abu rahma - Kerry showed a picture implying the rows and rows of shrouded bodies over which a boy is skipping (I don't know how to post it from Facebook) when in fact it had nothing to do with it. .

IMPORTANT TO KNOW ! So, Secretary of State John Kerry referenced this photograph when making his speech today, trying to drive home how awful the Syrian chemical attack was as he tried to convince us why we should go to war. One problem. The picture isn't even from Syria. It's from Iraq in 2003. The photographer, Marco di Lauro, said he nearly "fell off his chair" when he saw it was being used to promote a war in Syria. It's getting pretty disturbing to see how far our politicians, both Republican and Democrat, are willing to go to drum up support for a war nobody wants.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I didn't join the navy to drop bombs on Iraq #NoWarWithSyria

[-] -2 points by IceAge (-1) 9 years ago

Did you join to work on your suntan?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

lasers are done in the dark

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I don't believe the circumstance suggest the chemical attack by the government. The US is just trying to make excuses to kill with bombs. The US has lied in the recent past to invade Iraq The US has no credibility and will further damage that by destroying more countries and lives

the president sounds like a rules layer looking for an excuse

further, I find the US of bombs no different than chemical attacks

dead is dead

mass destruct is mass destruction

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

Yep.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

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Campaign to wage peace instead.

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[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 7 months ago

The West's expansion of NATO into Ukraine is the main cause behind Putin's actions.

It's just like with anything, if you don't want to escalate a situation, then consider the other side's position, feelings, consequences, the actions they will take, especially if you don't like the person or country because how they react could be pretty awful, like what we're seeing right now in Ukraine.

Greed over oil is the reason for the expansion of NATO.

So, we still need to get off of oil to clean energy but we don't have this commitment from government so long as the elites can still profit off of oil, hence the NATO expansion into Ukraine to prevent Russia from selling it's oil.

Also, the U.S. has only had 15 years of peace in it's' entire history.

https://medium.com/traveling-through-history/only-15-years-of-peace-in-the-history-of-the-united-states-of-america-c479193df79f

We don't even have any way to imagine what prosperity from peace would be like in this country because we've never had it!

NO WAR IN UKRAINE!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"Ex-US Ambassador to USSR: Ukraine Crisis Stems from Post-Cold War Push to Expand NATO"!

Your "US has only had 15 years of peace in its entire history", also bears meditating upon here too!

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"Let he without sin - cast the first stone" & "Many a truth is said in jest"!!!

The then US CIA Director Mike Pompei, telling us all exactly how it was and is!!

et veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

A Non-US/UK MSM narrative - with context, history & views!

Ukraine Crisis has much more context, than anyone is telling U!!

respice et adspice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Meanwhile "Bennett Says Biden Supports Israel’s ‘Freedom of Action’ Against Iran"! by Dave DeCamp:

WTF?!!!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"If You Stayed Up All Night Worrying About Nuclear War - You’re Not Alone"! by William Rivers Pitt:

and ...

fiat lux et fiat pax et caveat actor!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"US stoked tensions with Russia by Building Military Base 100 Miles From Border"by Marjorie Cohn:

pacem in terris?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"Ukraine Crisis: What You're Not Being Told!" (2014 !!)

respice et adspice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

For those with time, patience, attention span & energy to listen to some learned elders - here is "Putin's Invasion of Ukraine" - via 'Salon' and with Ray McGovern, Prof. John Mearsheimer, Susan Eisenhower (yep The General's daughter!) & several others - please try to watch this:

et pacem in terris!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 2 years ago

End the War Machine. Vote Bernie.

Let's not bring back the Obama/Biden drone era.

https://www.pri.org/stories/if-obama-apologized-1-civilian-drone-victim-every-day-it-would-take-him-3-years

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 8 years ago

Diplomacy, Cease fire, negotiations, compromise.

Path to Peace

[-] 1 points by Garibaldi (0) 9 years ago

Our congress no longer represents the American people. They instead represent oil barons seeking to take advantage of Syrian oil fields which we will no doubt be made custodians of once we have completely reduced the Syrian nation to rubble. It belongs to the death peddlers like Lockheed Marin who will no doubt generously arm the forces of death we send to Syria. These individuals fund the campaigns of men such as Robert Mendez who today granted his support for Iraq 2.0. If Congress is not shown that there will be consequences for such abject betrayal of the people they are meant to support, then it will be the voices of death peddlers and oil kings that are heard over the cries of parents not wishing to see their children shipped off to their deaths. Our cause has found success in Britain and can find success in the Nation which originated it.

[-] 1 points by Revolutionary (311) 9 years ago

USA resorts to war because it has been emboldened by the selfishness of Pakistan who lack humane values and who use second hand intelligence which lacks subjectiveness but possesses only objectivity/superficiality.

[-] 1 points by IndigoRed (87) 9 years ago

Everyone, I will not compel you into making a decision, but I come to you simply with evidence of what I am about to say: This potential war with Syria is a precursor - following the war with Iraq - for plans of a conspiracy designed and driven by the money masters of the western world, AKA the oligarchs of the New World Order. These human beings have so much wealth that they are able to place themselves outside of human life and experience that the rest of us are so accustomed to that they live as if they are in another dimension - comparable to gods looming over entire civilizations from the skies. All human events around the world are a constant stream of events (imagine never dreaming, hoping or thinking of another world/life - all physical human actions are confined to a bubble limited by the size of the planet that began ages ago and plays out analogous to a chemical reaction, the outcome of which is predictable) planned for, predicted by, and due to these elites, like the Iraq war. If America goes to war with Syria or is responsible for the destruction of its current government, these masterminds will be one step closer to having their one world government and this will cause suffering for the majority of mankind on a scale only comparable to the world wars. I present video evidence of what I speak of and simply state that if we show sympathy to the Syrian people like the elite expect of us and go to war, we will have fallen into their trap and allow ourselves to be one step closer to this new form of slavery: a slave of the global elite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB17j0a-R34

The most sure-fire way to have an enduring and convincing effect on your congressional representative is to have prophetic abilities and I will instruct you how. You must first understand that what is unraveling in the middle east is not about Syria but a broader strategy for eliminating threats that could potentially oppose the western powers around the world. Syria is just a stepping stone - more is yet to come and soon it will seem as if the entire middle east has exploded into war.

Here is your script for what to tell your representative: The United States will shortly go to war with Libya if it goes to war with Syria. As a taxpaying U.S. citizen, I do not give permission for my tax dollars to be used to fund a war with Libya. You will not have my vote in the next congressional elections if you allow my tax dollars to fund a war with Libya. Represent me as my elected congressman/woman of the state of insert your state here in the congressional vote to use my tax dollars for military intervention outside of American territory.

Spread it around, folks, godspeed.

[-] -1 points by zacharilogan (-54) 9 years ago

All human events around the world are a constant stream of events (imagine never dreaming, hoping or thinking of another world/life - all physical human actions are confined to a bubble limited by the size of the planet that began ages ago and plays out analogous to a chemical reaction, the outcome of which is predictable) planned for, predicted by, and due to these elites, like the Iraq war.

If these so called elites have been in control since the beginning of humanity, they are not very effective. It's taking them quite a long time to achieve their nefarious dream of a one world government.

Here is your script for what to tell your representative...

If you believe a secret shadowy force nicknamed the elite is plotting to take over the world, why would you trust a representative. Better you adopt Occupy's principle of anarchy. The people have the power to change the world by themselves. No need for representatives. They are all corrupted by your so-called elites.

[-] 1 points by IndigoRed (87) 9 years ago

It is the most efficient way to cause change without resorting to destruction. Societies of human beings need order, and thousands of years of experimentation with developing systems to create order among men has shown that our way of representational government creates the most stable and therefore prosperous civilizations in history. Anarchy solves nothing and leads to the decay of nations then provinces/states, then cities, then communities and finally on an individual level. It is corrosive to the human mind and spirit to live without order.

These representatives still think like you and me at some level though, even if their livelihoods are dependent on these elites. Trust in the system. Trust in mankind. We are destined for a greater future - all of us, together.

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[-] 1 points by IndigoRed (87) 9 years ago

And I disagree that a 'world' with one country would have no competition. If you remember your reading of US history from your high school text books, the United States was an isolationist country up until WW1 and it thrived during the industrial age simply with intranational business and industry.

[-] 1 points by IndigoRed (87) 9 years ago

We must trust the system that is known to all and in writing (the constitution) and is not clandestine, secretive or manipulate using covet means. You're mincing words and not understanding that these elites act outside of any laws or influence: they are the ones who influence, using their vast wealth obtained through their royal families for centuries. They do not have control of the system but influence it and have incredible influential power.

If you're confused that political power is just as great as monetary power, understand that when entire countries (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, the French Empire, England, etc.) fall or their governments fall, the people AND THEREFORE businesses lose confidence in the place they live and investments, bank savings, stocks, contracts and every business transaction that relies on trust go up in the wind.

I don't know what the elites want with a one world government but I'm certain they realize it will make hundreds of millions homeless and suffer. Perhaps they are planning to systematically depopulate the Earth by starving out the masses so they may have a larger share of this beautiful, blue planet we live on. I understand the importance of competition but I'm not talking about capitalism here, I'm talking about secretive elite groups seeking to overthrow governments in the middle east as the next step to their plans for a one world government. I'm not even sure these people think about international trade anymore.

OH and could you tell me what it is that they do exactly? I've known of their existence for years now and still have no idea what the extremely wealthy do. I'd love to know. Please enlighten everyone reading this conversation.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 9 years ago

NO MORE WAR!

Eddie Vedder - No More http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqPzS8Y27Ks

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

''Who Blocked Syrian Peace Talks ?'', by Robert Parry :

''The War on Iran Begins In Syria'', by Eric Draitser :

''The Broader Stakes of Syrian Crisis'', by Ray McGovern :

''U.S. Neocon Hawks Take Flight Over Syria'', by Jim Lobe :

''The Real Target of These Attacks is Not Syria'', by Robert Fisk :

Finally, please consider : ''What is the West’s real agenda ? This is the unasked and unanswered question. Clearly, the US, UK, and French governments, which have displayed continuously their support for dictatorial regimes that serve their purposes, are not the least disturbed by dictatorships. They brand Assad a dictator as a means of demonizing him for the ill-informed Western masses. But Washington, UK, and France support any number of dictatorial regimes, such as the ones in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and now the military dictatorship in Egypt that is ruthlessly killing Egyptians without any Western government speaking of invading Egypt for “killing its own people.” from :

Btw, re. your link above, I always dug 'Pearl Jam' & it beats the ass off Mylie's 'twerking' so thanx & fyi :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

''Showing They Learned Nothing From Iraq, Corporate Media Help Beat War Drums for Trump Attack on Syria'', by Jake Johnson:

fiat lux et pax ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23644) 4 years ago

All the Syrian refugees left to rot by the USA, UK & France. Let's not forget them. It's total hypocrisy for these governments to claim they care about the Syrian people.

They make that claim purely for the benefit of the Military Industrial Complex and War "Mission Accomplished" to line their pockets with money.

I'm waiting for the "Humanity Mission." I guess I'll be waiting a while.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/12/602022877/the-u-s-has-welcomed-only-11-syrian-refugees-this-year

Here's how much the UK gov't cares about Syrian children:

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/12/602022877/the-u-s-has-welcomed-only-11-syrian-refugees-this-year

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

USA took in ELEVEN Syrian refugees in 2018 but claims that it gives a shit about Syrian casualties in a war that it has fueled & financed!!! F/UK/US' 1% do not give a flying fk about Syria's people, as it is ALL about Regime Change and Hydrocarbons & Hegemony!! Have U any idea, what your other respondent is on about?! Maybe U could ask him what Russia and China did to reduce Syria to rubble, and why he wears U$A's Oligarchy's ass as a hat? Maybe he should consider some/all of this...

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 4 years ago

"How the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq"

by Seamus Milne, The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

"The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states that incubated it in the first place"

Hmmmm. "On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting."

"US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus."

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Prof. Jeffrey D. Sachs on Syria ...

Above is a rare moment of truth on TV & thanx for that excellent excerpt from that Seamus Milne article.

Nearly three years old & so predictive of what has happened in Syria. U can see why Seamus is one of

Jeremy Corbyn's closest advisers. Syria is not a ''mistake or misjudgment'', it's a total F/UK/US CRIME!

Note that your other interlocutor here, has failed to respond to the same vid.in reply to his screed below.

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 3 years ago

Jeffrey Sachs on Syria. Your youtube link has been taken down. This link works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYgYTQuqQX8

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Re.''Professor Lays Down TRUTH About Syria on CORPORATE MEDIA'' many thanx bw for your replacement link. Have U seen Prof. Jeffrey Sachs on TV anytime since those revealing truth-bombs? Nope. Me neither. + Re, Syria, FYI please consider:

e tenebris, lux?

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Rus China's attitude regarding refugees was: http://www.newsweek.com/china-will-not-accept-syria-refugees-return-home-629499

How many Syrian refugees did Rus China accept? Guess.

Normally, the U.S. takes in many refugees year after year but just look at what we've gotten in our White House now. I don't know whether Rustia has cracked our 2016 Election because Mueller's investigation continues. However, Cambridge Analytica certainly had a hand in helping to put the bullshit there. I think that Rustia somehow funded Cambridge Analytica. The way our bullshit bends to favor Rustia undercutting his far more professional staffers is a very strong indication that Rustia probably holds a leash on the bullshit. Hillary would probably have admitted more refugees into the U.S. than bullshit because she had proposed a no-fly zone in northern Syria. However, Rustia's airforce was already there. Having U.S. fighter jets there bossing around in the sky could easily provoke a dogfight with the Rustian aircraft. It seems that clashes between the U.S. and Rustia are unavoidable in Syria because they are allied on opposing sides there.

I cheered when Pootin went into Syria bigtime and gave him the title "Pootin the Great." All he had done since then was wreaking havoc and creating human waves of misery sloshing towards Europe. ( Why not Africa, Rustia, or Rus China? Isn't it obvious? ) I understood gradually that he and Assad were aerial-bombing the Syrian civilians to turn them into refugees ( or endless anti-regime freedom fighters including ISIL which has Assad as its chief recruiter, and Syria into rubble ) for destabilizing the E.U. which he succeeded by causing Brexit. The U.K. allowed refugees to bring their families over later ( rather rare in the E.U. but it's more humane ) and it was doing well economically with jobs and good pay and benefits. Pootin was Not trying to stabilize the situation in Syria at all. I was wrong about his intentions and duly disappointed.

The U.K. was handling the refugees better by interviewing them in the refugee camps rather than having them take the very perilous voyage to get to the U.K. themselves. Germany was very generous and mostly welcoming to the refugees so I certainly appreciate Germany's stepping up to help although I would have preferred better screening and interviewing onsite, more similar to what the U.K. had done. Germany was a novice at taking in so many refugees at once so it should generally be excused for any bumbling.

Aerial-bombings by Assad and Pootin replenished with many aggrieved civilians the many groups of anti-regime/anti-coalition fighters. Just read how many different groups are involved here in the U.S./Rustia clash. Wars are just burning fires. We know how to control and prevent or extinguish fires: fuels, oxidants, and ignitions. Automobile engineers got the control of fire down to a fine art using fuel pumps, oxygen sensors, spark plugs, electronic fuel injection, ceramic-coated aluminum engines, etc. We can learn from them. Get people well-fed well-fucked ( but NOT producing a population explosion! All well-off countries don't suffer from population explosion so yeah, necessary are the contraceptive pills, barrier and rhythm methods, cunnilingus, fellatio, intercrural, pornography, masturbation, sex dolls serving Homo/Robo (gynoids/androids) Integration, or gay { Spartan warriors whom so many Fascists aspire to were probably gay similar to the carbon atoms in diamonds each forming up to and mostly FOUR! extremely strong bonds in the gayest mineral of all } and lesbian sex in the more individualistic and imaginative countries or draconian birth control methods such as forced abortions, genital mutilations, honored killings, stonings, or infanticides in the more fascist countries ) and wars die down. Biologists phrase it as food and sex, just a bit more politely than I.

Machiavelli wrote "The Prince" targeted for Lorenzo to use but Lorenzo earned "il magnifico" for his title without adhering to Machiavellian methods. It showed that fascist-style control is NOT absolutely necessary to achieving the desirable ends. "Firm on purpose; pliant on means," suffices. Lorenzo can rightfully be named as the Godfather of the Renaissance which catapulted the brutish infighting very divided and superstitious Medieval Europe to global wealth, dominance, and power. At Reykjavik, Reagan and Gorbachev together "shot down thousands of nuclear-tipped ICBMs" (the firm purpose) without later deploying the Star-Wars Defense (a pliant means). Alzheimer's earnest grand vision came true without going through a devastating nuclear war. It wasn't a dream. It's peace in our time.

Libya, Yemen, and Syria were all ignited by ( anthropogenic in my take ) climate change and exhaustion of oil revenue in Yemen's case. The attack on U.S.S. Cole pre-saged 9/11 attacks by nearly a year while Bush-it was campaigning on the U.S. leaving the troublesome countries to their own device. The total klutzes of the Bush-it regime created much suffering for many countries for decades already. One cannot withdraw unilaterally ever without having something else replacing the U.S. support. We NEVER do that to any building unless we are tearing it down. Yeah, I still remember our withdrawing support from Afghanistan only to have Al-Qaeda coming back out with a vengeance on 9/11/2001. Invading Iraq and firing its army personnel made the U.S. "penile Chainies" rich with Iraqi oil beyond our wildest dreams! We also told our enemies there when we would be drawing down our troops and be completely out of Iraq, smart weren't we?

None of these decades-long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would have occurred were the U.S. earnest in building the Amero-Eurasian Empire and occupied the new accretions. The U.S. occupations of Germany and Japan had gone very well so it could be done with U.S. knowhow. Our problem was not being colonial or imperialistic enough so everyone criticizes us for the disastrous aftermaths. Withdrawal of troops after winning a war has been a rare practice amongst other nations. If the regional powers cannot or would not stabilize the war-torn aftermaths, the U.S. should just occupy them indefinitely by ourselves for the welfare of our posterity.

Gentlemen, we've done it before, in Japan -- we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make his bigger, stronger, faster...

Yeah, we should start a "well-fed well-fucked" Party to save the World from wars!

We only live once.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Prof. Jeffrey D. Sachs on Syria ...

I have not read your excessively long screed above, as I am too busy and just haven't the time to spare

BUT I will do so and reply accordingly IF U will put 5m36s of of your time in and watch the video above.

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Tulsi Gabbard's Deleted Tweet Video ...

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

How many Syrian refugees did the two "Eastern-culture" permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, Rus China and Russian Federation, take in? And why?

Most of Russia's political and economic weights are Western but it had consistently tried to define itself as the Opposition so as to stand with Rus China to be Eastern instead. This is why the Western parts of Russia may join the E.U. without too much difficulty but the Eastern parts may experience far more significant shocks. Even Germany still has significant problems "digesting" DDR even after decades of unification efforts.

Russia's leadership suffers from a superiority complex in that it still feels that it should be superior to the other European states because it used to lord it over many of them. It also suffers from an inferiority complex in that it knows that just one or two of the major economies of the E.U. may already dwarf Russia's economy easily. It still has a lot of sabers that may work or not work due to the lack of maintenance but they are scary things so Russia became the teacher's pest, pulling a girl's hair here, stomping on that boy's toe there, flashing a rusty spring-loaded knife here and there, just to see where the limits are and feed its ego. One fix is to send Russia into a fully padded room for a long timeout, support it to have some self-centered constructive activity to do, and heap on praises to soothe its ego.

Many failing economies blame the U.S. for their being left behind but there is such a thing as being on the wrong economic path imposing structural constraints until something like Deng's "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" happens, making the hitherto illegals, "it's glorious to be rich!" Whatever!《清真寺里卖猪肉》As if coming from a dope dealer, they sound rather ridiculous to me but the covers apparently worked well.

A far more important question is -- what have they done for the innocent people in Syria to resolve the conflict? What's the Eastern-culture's peace plan for Syria? The Amero-Euroasian Empire will realize China's dream of returning all refugees to their homeland in the empire which the U.S. can build for them.

Things can rapidly get out of control between the Russian Federation and the U.S.A. in Syria.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 4 years ago

Why is it so hard to imagine that other countries have relationships with other countries that have nothing to do with America?

Russia and Syria have a long standing friendship/alliance. And, China, well, they're the longest running continuous civilization on earth so they can basically be friends with who they want, also, without getting permission from the U.S.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

I know that they can have relationships independent of the U.S. and that's fine. I object to Russia's not living up to its promise to keep Syria from using chemical weapons. I remembered that the U.S. Congress had already voted for attacking Syria for violating the international prohibition of using chemical weapons. Russia intervened on behalf of Syria so droopy geoduck refrained from spurting Syria. Russia not controlling Assad so that he does not use chemical weapons means that the spurting-Syria order from the U.S. Congress takes effect. It's perfectly logical. The U.N. has been dysfunctional in resolving the Syrian conflicts so it makes sense that the U.S. steps up to impose some humanity even in warfare. We didn't come to banning chemical weapons easily. We learnt how debilitating chemical weapon attacks could be even years after they had happened. The survivors suffered greatly long thereafter.

Russia also flew aircraft into neighboring countries with their transponders switched off. That's both illegal and dangerous to civilian aviation. For these reasons, Russia needs to be put into an isolated and fully padded room to calm down.

"Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., geoduck spent the day playing Gulf.Worse than Cancer" The U.S. and Saudi Arabia's blood-and-oil special relationship went back a long way to the FDR days. Stabilized oil prices underpinned the prosperity of the postwar World for the U.S., Germany, Japan, and now China, too.

The 1970's had the two terrible oil shocks when Saudi Arabia and Iran (though not Arab) led the Arab Oil Embargo due to the U.S. backing of Israel and Ayatollah Khomeini replaced the Shah of Iran with Shia Islamic rule. My family ate the shit! I didn't know better then, "What's the Big Deal about having no gasoline and/or long lines of cars at the gas stations? New York City has an extensive subway system. It runs on electricity."

Saudi Arabia is the most important ally of the U.S. in the Middle East.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23644) 4 years ago

U.S. could move to renewable energy pretty quickly if it wanted to. It just means changing policies and putting money into renewables instead of, oh, right, war. No fun for the oligarchs who get rich off of those wars.

https://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/smart-energy-solutions/increase-renewables/renewable-energy-80-percent-us-electricity.html

And, Saudi Arabia is only "important" while we march on using fossil fuels and creating wars to do so, but I'd use different words, such as "useful" to the oligarchs and "deleterious" the the masses.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Bullshit's dipenile-transcendent plan over Bush-it for M.A.G.A. is to get it pregnant again via Earth Pollution Agency on Earth Day.

Corporatocracy America's credo's, "they're going to use that last drop of oil, and they're going to use that last piece of metal, to make that last dollar of profit."

That attitude almost killed off the U.S. automobile industry due to its capturing the U.S. government so that the gas-mileage-increase mandates were repeatedly relaxed and delayed, rendering the U.S. automobile industry more profitable in the short term by slashing R&D but fatal in the long term were it not for the repeated bailouts by the government. The inaction on R&D in order to make and sell higher gas-mileage automobiles contributed greatly to shipping most of the automobile industry jobs overseas to Japan and landed the great city of Detroit (the arsenal of democracy) in its current dire state of few jobs being available, de-population, rampant crimes, abandoned properties, gang violence, lack of tax revenue to maintain infrastructure, etc. Detroit was slated to die by the failure to regulate the automobile industry to meet the higher realistic expectations. The first requirement for any success is the clear articulation of an attainable goal and the high expectations to go with it.

As for switching the U.S. over to renewable energy, even if we had succeeded domestically, we would still be entangled in oil wars, contemplate this equation of analogy: electricity-run New York City subway system : still oil-dependent U.S.A. = renewable-energy-run U.S.A. : still oil-dependent World.

Even if the U.S. were 100% using renewable energy, our myriad linkages to the oil-dependent World would still hit us hard due to yet another oil shock. I thought New York City was doing just fine because I was riding the amazing subway ( making irrelevant the surface traffic jams and quite unnoticeable my living on a faulted island with Carl Schurz's statue located at the top of a fault being approached @11:15 after a steep and tiring climb up to Morningside Heights ) but how wrong I was!

Inflation took off. My Mom griped about rapidly rising grocery prices. Fresh orange juice at our Sunday family brunches gave way to Tang and shortly afterwards there were no more such brunches. My brother's and my own Christmas song recordings could never be played again because a burglar or burglars ransacked our apartment and stole the 8-track-magnetic-tape player/recorder and much else but I cared much more about the irreplaceable mementos, far more than the pocket-protecting cash-is-trash loose-change collection or my Dad's can of 35-cent subway tokens my parents used, each punched with a Y-shaped hole in the middle.

The aircraft carrier USS America which sprang into action after Israel had attacked USS Liberty in 1967, returned from the Vietnam Conflict. It was ultimately used for target and sunk in May of 2005. Regardless of whether Bush-it @2:08 or Bullshit, castrated or regrown with the dipenile transcendence, "Mission Accomplished" forebodes its Destiny as the New Atlantis for Waterworld.

My father lost his job, probably due to the ensuing recession after the oil embargo. In order to be away from the by-then-ridden-with-crimes racially integrated neighborhood and to cut down on housing cost, we moved away to a lily-white neighborhood where the residents were reputed to have guns, and lots of them. Yeah, that's where I learnt my appreciation of the guns used for security purposes so now I certainly support our Second Amendment, "the (stealthy soft) Sound of Freedom." The burglars came no more or they had just found it too bothersome to get to so far away. The daily commutes took much longer. Our new residence was also much smaller. I was glad that I had shortly gone away to college to live in dormitories near/on campus. I worked my smarty pants off to pay for it but a dorm-room was for me a "classe affaire" upgrade!

It was all from oil, corporations, government, Jews, and Arabs (also OPEC Aryans)--oily, greedy, bloody, quarrelsome and murderous "Chosen Semites," with anxient cultures and uncompromising customs from millennia ago BEFORE diverse peoples were mushed together. In the twentieth century, we saw medieval cultures gaining modern industrial-scale muscles suddenly thrust into a crowded modernity by rapacious imperialistic customs creating the bloodiest century in all time. Zombies with chainsaws!

Shouldn't hospital infectious-disease isolation wards be called tribalism wards? And disinfectants/acrobatic-gymnasts be called mass-germ-murdering weapons?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Military Cancer" ...

pacem in terris ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Human rights is unfortunately a mostly Western concept. I say we do what we believe in, without any reservations or qualms. Cemetery quiet is what "animal Assad" is striving for, so be it, after our proper determination of the facts on the ground, with "due diligence," of course. There's no need to forewarn Russia as it had already attacked U.S. troops recently in Syria and a lot of Russians had been killed. Russia already knows what the U.S. stands for.

Should the investigative effort be obstructed, do a Hussein II, as Hussein's international agreement has been violated. It will be a godsend to unite the U.S. behind the to-be-impeached (after 60 days after starting a nuclear war, of course, according to the U.S. Congress, if there's still a quorum left) Commander-in-Chief. Nuclear war will likely be over within just two hours. No more Mueller's Russia probe is necessary as allegiance is proven beyond any doubt.

They will certainly get it loud and clear when it comes. Vengeance is ours, at the time of our choosing.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Re. "Vengeance is ours, at the time of our choosing" .. just who the flying fk d'U think U are grapes & whoTF is this "we", that U are so in league with?!!! NO "Human rights is" NOT "unfortunately a mostly Western concept" .. U Euro-centric dingbat & there are innumerable texts, in numerous languages, in many cultures - which allude to rights & responsibilities in society!! WhatTF are "U.S. troops" doing in Syria and who invited them there and, d'U really think U$A's MIC gives a fk about Syrian casualties?!

Anyway just on the chance that U are simply being sarcastic or satirical or strangely supercilious, here are some links about Syria - for later digestion and assimilation, so that U can answer those questions for yourself ...

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

A small contingent of U.S. Special Operations acting primarily as advisors are in Syria to help exterminate ISIL (which crosses into Iraq with impunity so the U.S. must help secure Northeast Syria to halt the infiltration of ISIL into Iraq). "Jihadi John," an ISIL "Beatle," beheaded James Foley, a U.S. photojournalist, violating our First Amendment right of the Freedom of the Press. As a consequence intended by our Founding Fathers under Divine Providence, our Second Amendment kicked in. I certainly support our Second Amendment as well as the advisors' right to self defense, yes, even against the Russians ( bumbling idiots [as they're unlikely to be suicidally crazy] killed/injured in probing the truthiness of our fickle Terrible-lizard's tweets?) who have been neutralized in the hundred(s) when they attacked the U.S. personnel. Quality starts with the fundamentals, such as our Bill of Rights. Allahu akbar!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

It's good that you know human rights is not a uniquely Western concept but it is mostly a Western practice, though ( e.g., Brexit didn't hamper united Western actions against the Novichok attack; I wonder whether there were any united Eastern actions; what did Turkey, Syria, Israel, Egypt, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Iran, Pakistan, India, China, Vietnam, etc. do?) We speak truth to power because children's squabble had enlightened me -- "your god is made of clay; your god is made of the bloodied wood; by kneeling down in front of these, both of you have committed idolatory, now let me chisel both of them away to honor [AND dishonor] the Almighty." Who is the One True God? The U.S. is pagan in its founding. Just look at the pentagram emblems on our aircraft. As the first act of prayer to the Christian God, the colonial representatives booted out sectarianism and compromised, no less by the extremists in their midst! As Benjamin Franklin, a Quaker devoted to peaceful principles, had purportedly expressed something like, "we either hang together or we should be hanged separately."

Imminent death clears the mind extremely well so as to realize what is truly important: the brethren colonies in armed revolt against tyranny, despite their being Quakers, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Baptists, and on and on. God made it clear. Peace is to be instituted amongst all brothers and sisters by first kicking out the sectarian God. Do we still revere God, having kicked out the sectarian part? Damn well, we still do. It's still being honored right there on every single U.S. coin and bill: "In God We Trust. E pluribus unum (out of many, one.)" We have in fact become the MOST religious Western country -- just ignore which particular God, gods, goddesses, or no god or goddess, we pray or not pray to. Separating Church from State was what had made the United States of America possible AND great. It's enshrined in the First Amendment, backed up by the Second Amendment at gunpoints. The U.S. has the rightful claim to enforce universal human rights (also in the U.N. Declarations) at gunpoints if necessary, ordained by the Almighty at the founding of our country. We haunt.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Show me Russian troops backing up an international team of investigators from the U.N. Show me Chinese troops doing the same. There are none whatsoever. There are texts, speeches, languages galore alright in Eastern cultures but they are just so much suffocating carbon dioxide due to hypocrisy.

Okay, let me make up some faux news, too. China has just rescued drowning sailors in the South China Sea using its newly reclaimed-from-the-sea immovable aircraft carrier as the search-and-rescue base. Russia rushed in to Douma to catch the perpetrators of the chemical attack, to no avail naturally, and messing up the criminal evidence, of course. Oh yeah, Iran has just upheld its long and glorious tradition of stipulating laws and human rights in Persian poetry, of course. "Nuclear bombs are 《un-Islamic》 so we enrich uranium with tens of thousands of centrifuges and operate nuclear reactor to make radio-isotopes ( oh, we couldn't help but make plutonium by Mother Nature's way, could we? Allahu Akbar! Trust us, through rocketry and nuclear bombs, we realize our religion of [cemetery]Peace! ) for national nuclear-medicine independence for cancer treatments." Aren't we humane and caring? Meanwhile, chop, chop, "we have no homosexuals in Iran. We execute them." We want obedient sexpots, not un-reproductive homosexuals, as if population pressure is not high enough already to exceed the carrying capacity for that part of the miserable World. What livelihood do these massive numbers of young people get? Crickets... Ahhh, in the East, we build bonfires of [in]humanity!

Whatever! Black is white and white is black or vice versa -- it's the contrast Islam is aiming for, dude!

I could see the contrast, the reversal of fortunes alright, in the previously divided Germany, on the Korean Peninsula, Hispaniola, and

in China before and after the 1979 post-Mao Deng Xiaoping opening ( Mao had to die, for China to rise; Deng normalized relations with the U.S., legitimized, and glorified the illegal-under-Communism entrepreneurial activities of some peasants, turning socialist shit into peasant gold.)

Russia has recently been given a similar opportunity at its premiere national laboratory with its scientists doing Bitcoin mining in secrecy, absolutely ingenious people taking advantage of Russia's great strengths --

some of the best human (AI has already surpassed ALL humans, including Russians, in chess-playing decades ago) brains in the whole world [ titanium-like-awesome in Math and Science! Coming from a Remnant of the last century like me with the long-wayback memories { I remember the Détente after the KGB? had eavesdropped the rapprochement of Nixon and Mao using the mysterious white 》Grundlage der Entspannung?《 object close to Mao in the foreground of the photograph; it was a neighborhood girl, not a witch, who had sat upon it blushing and being embarrassed which effectively ended @2:55 two preschoolers' "mad scientific" quest -- saving an inquisitive kid's budding biomedical and doctoring career means avoiding Novichok -- Never ever get near to that pootinium? still-unidentified? grounding object! } traceable to its beginning and even some of the nineteenth century through oral history, it's a bit like the respect of Bill Gates for Steve Jobs in saving Apple, Inc. from bankruptcy, after a Harvard MBA from the sugarwater company Pepsico { sugar is as addictive as cocaine in human pleasure-seeking-and-addiction-circuitry studies; Warren Buffett's BRK owns many companies selling sweet de-facto-doped products for excellent profits -- it's legalized dope dealings in a sense } had sucked Apple for profits dry as a prune by putting out terrible-quality products and then bailing himself out, leaving Apple in shambles while the E.U. and the U.S. D.O.J. were gunning for monopolistic practices of Bill's Microsoft so Bill got a kickass motivation to save Microsoft's former competitor; Apple became the most profitable company ever and still exists today probably due to the antitrust laws and regulations; the U.S. gets killed by Russia in the chess-playing and elsewhere, too, especially in the current cracked bullshit ],

terrible coldness for high thermodynamic efficiency,

and

vast deposits of natural gas to generate electricity, ranking it close to the leading favorite Iceland where Mother Nature sings in peace the Song of Fire and Ice -- I wonder whether these Russian scientist entrepreneurs had ended up in jail due to the idiotic and blind fossilized Pootin being in charge; Deng would have glorified these heroes of Mother Rustia nationally!

Europe has emerged from its horrid past in human rights. I surmise that it was because it had gone through extremely terrible human rights violations on its soil. Despite its despicably ingenious inventions of Medieval torture devices, Germany has essentially been emasculated by wars. I know what human rights violation feels like. Although I haven't experienced human rights abuses firsthand myself, my determined and courageous Mom had told me of stories such as how an elderly widow was stripped of her livelihood and killed herself by drinking the poisonous bitter electrolyte-balance-disrupting solution that had seeped from the seasalt after its having absorbed moisture from the air. The most beautiful flower can grow from the biggest stinkiest lump of rusty bullshit given the universal solvent of human teardrops.

All great powers have emerged after terrible revolutions. Have you ever wondered why? I know why, for I am the lotus seed of the Land of the Departed Souls, the Remnant which has sprouted from this bullshit. It may be a SAM but we're the Untouchables. Allahu akbar!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

So, WTF is ''Op.Timber Sycamore''?!

I haven't read your 10+ paragraphs written over 3 days above & may not do so, as I've a distinct feeling

that I'd get very fkn angry indeed IF I subjected myself to your expansive yet myopic Merca-centric b-s!

Does ANYTHING that U say above touch on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vwKk4pADCw ?!!

If not, why not d'U think? Is it possible that being mired in U$A's MSM has now rendered U imbecilic?!!!

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Also - In compliment:

I wanted to make sure that you saw Jim's email yesterday asking for your opinion on how the US should proceed in Syria. This is a complex situation, and as a member driven organization, we want to hear your thoughts on how you think the US and DFA should move forward.

Please take a moment to let our team know your views on Syria.

Thanks for being part of DFA,

Charles

Charles Chamberlain, Executive Director Democracy for America


FW: Where do you stand on Syria? Sender: Jim Dean, Democracy For America

The civil war in Syria has claimed over 100,000 lives. And last Wednesday, the situation got even worse: at least 350 people died and over 3,600 were hospitalized after a suspected chemical attack.

Increasingly, it looks like the US may be planning a military response.

This situation is complicated, and Democracy For America members are expressing a variety of views on how we should proceed. We need to hear from you to find out where you stand.

Please take a moment to express your views on Syria here.

If you aren't sure where you stand right now, even that information is helpful. As a membership driven organization, it is vital that we hear from you. So don't hold back. Let us know what you think right now.

Thanks for all you do to move America and DFA forward,

Jim

Jim Dean, Chair Democracy for America

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Based on the current situation, do you support U.S. military intervention in Syria?:

NO

Please take a moment to tell us why or explain your position.:

If we get involved at this point in time - it should be to air drop medical and food supplies to the civilians in the cities as well as send food and medical supplies to all of the refugee camps and every ( lawful ? ) country in the world should do the same.

The Middle East can be considered as largely lawless ( 10,000,000 Arabs.Muslims killed by each other in how many years? ). Considering this - arms are the last thing anyone should be sending into the region.

America and every ( lawful ? ) country in the world - should withhold on sending any armaments to anyone. Peace will not break out at the end of a gun. Now while every lawful country withholds pouring fuel onto the fire - they should also be pressuring for a cease in all hostilities ( helpful if they follow through on stopping arms shipments ).

Any military action really should be carried out by the UN not NOT the USA. This military action "should" for one thing - STOP the Shelling and Bombing of the cities/civilians - that would mean declaring the whole area a no fly zone and immediately enforcing it. US military take note - stop using drone war fare in civilized areas = villages towns cities. Take out ( destroy ) all of the machines of war that are being used on and in the cities.

Do you have any other thoughts on Syria you'd like to share? :

On Syria and the middle east and Africa - stop sending in arms. Sane approach to peace health and prosperity throughout the region is better achieved - NOT by sending MONEY or ARMS - BUT by sending equipment that will provide the area with clean/green energy = solar farms wind farms even Thorium Reactors and Liquid Metal Batteries ( for storage and distribution - things we should be doing here at home as well ). Also water purification equipment. REMOVE THE REASONS FOR - THE CAUSES OF - STRIFE. This also includes breaking the fossil fuel necessity ( we need to do this for the environment anyway ).

A lot cheaper approach then to perpetuate war - kinder to ALL life.

[-] 5 points by JohnWa (513) 9 years ago

The Middle East has been a focus of Western opportunism, particularly since WWI. Syria today is a result of past US intervention.

We are increasing our abilities to earn enemies with invasions, drones, bombing, occupation and the mining of assets and resources across this strife ridden home of civilization.

I believe our record of past interventions includes a new round of bombing each 40 months on average.

No peace initiative is won by invasion but peace is not the target the bankers are after. There is too much money to be made from war and the tax payer and public here suffer.

The only terrorists easily recognizable sit either within US administration or closely behind them driving the slaughter. Psychopaths reign without restraint.

Protest and pacifism are but two of the tools we have against the war criminals.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Well Said.

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 8 years ago

Agreed! NO WAR!

Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Isreal are all eventually resource wars. Stop buying oil as an anti war protest.

Many peaceful protests and boycotts is the best approach.

[-] -1 points by JosephB (26) 9 years ago

Syria is another false flag event.

The lies we are fed make the nation sick - er.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 9 years ago

Bombing the Syrians back into the stone age will actually backfire in a number of ways to the detriment of the criminal overlords.

People are not just starting to doubt everything in the press, they are cuckolding it as well. The boy has cried wolf too many times now. Barry Sotoro has about as much credibility as a WMD crier after Iraq.

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[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Everyone needs to see this.

[-] 0 points by 99nproud (2697) 8 years ago

Love is the answer

[-] 0 points by HeckleJekyll (-2) 9 years ago

Where was the USA's drive for moral intervention to stop the genocide in the Congo, Darfur, Rwanda. Millions have been killed there, yet nothing was done, because the USA favored those regimes.

The U.S. looked the other way when then allied Saddam gased the kurds in the early 80's. Nothing was done because he was doing our bidding by fighting Iran.

The USA ignored massacres in Bahrain, because we favour their regime.

What nation is the world's biggest exporter of terrorism? What nation is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya? What nation has ignored the sovereign borders of many other nations?

Govt sponsored terrorism, is terrorism all the same.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

A true statement - just because a government "does it" - it does not mean that it is not criminal or terroristic. But the USA is not the only country with an indifferent government - indifferent to the killings and strife in other countries - nor is it the only country that is aggressive militarily in going after what it wants.

Currently - guerrilla insurgents from across the border are raising hell in Syria. Though this started after Assad started a military program of Democide on his people. The guerrillas could well be armed with serin and using it for their own reasons. Still that does not absolve Assad of his program of Democide.

Been going on for a couple of years now - look at all of the indifference of all the nations in the UN. Look at the big three that are looking after their own interests in the area - USA, Russia, China. There are others plenty of others with an interest in the area. And look at what has been done over the decades to settle things down in the area - Arms Shipments and such.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Around the world.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

democide ?

Democide is a term revived and redefined by the political scientist R. J. Rummel as "the murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Around the world.

fair enough but that doesn't give the US a free pass to practice that

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago
[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

got it

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

pat pat pat

There wasn't any room below.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Translation - US and Obama aren't that bad.

Translation = U have a specific agenda which does not recognize all of the other involvements/causes.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Greed is the #1 cause of Disease Death & Destruction in the World.

Democide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Based on the current situation, do you support U.S. military intervention in Syria?:

NO

Please take a moment to tell us why or explain your position.:

If we get involved at this point in time - it should be to air drop medical and food supplies to the civilians in the cities as well as send food and medical supplies to all of the refugee camps and every ( lawful ? ) country in the world should do the same.

The Middle East can be considered as largely lawless ( 10,000,000 Arabs.Muslims killed by each other in how many years? ). Considering this - arms are the last thing anyone should be sending into the region.

America and every ( lawful ? ) country in the world - should withhold on sending any armaments to anyone. Peace will not break out at the end of a gun. Now while every lawful country withholds pouring fuel onto the fire - they should also be pressuring for a cease in all hostilities ( helpful if they follow through on stopping arms shipments ).

Any military action really should be carried out by the UN not NOT the USA. This military action "should" for one thing - STOP the Shelling and Bombing of the cities/civilians - that would mean declaring the whole area a no fly zone and immediately enforcing it. US military take note - stop using drone war fare in civilized areas = villages towns cities. Take out ( destroy ) all of the machines of war that are being used on and in the cities.

Do you have any other thoughts on Syria you'd like to share? :

On Syria and the middle east and Africa - stop sending in arms. Sane approach to peace health and prosperity throughout the region is better achieved - NOT by sending MONEY or ARMS - BUT by sending equipment that will provide the area with clean/green energy = solar farms wind farms even Thorium Reactors and Liquid Metal Batteries ( for storage and distribution - things we should be doing here at home as well ). Also water purification equipment. REMOVE THE REASONS FOR - THE CAUSES OF - STRIFE. This also includes breaking the fossil fuel necessity ( we need to do this for the environment anyway ).

A lot cheaper approach then to perpetuate war - kinder to ALL life.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

But you ignore the corp(se)oRAT influence on government as well as corp(se)oRATist politicians in office ( state & Fed ) that forward these military resource oriented agendas. It is NOT one individual's doing - All of the crap of our dying democracy and our dying planet.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

Who are these others?

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

Names please.

Generics aren't very useful.

And what State are you in?

[-] -2 points by zacharilogan (-54) 9 years ago

I'm in New-York. Get the names of all the politicians for the Democrats and the Republicans. Add to that all the names of Evangelists with power. Then all the rich people who use their power over others. The list is in the thousands and thousands of people.

But really, I'm not interested in particular actors. Obama is important for this posting since this news article by Occupy is about the government Obama is leading, but what really interests me is the system. Even if you change the actors, the system will simply corrupt the new ones. The problem is the system. It's capitalism which creates monetary power over others, and political hierarchy which creates political power over others.

You seem almost angry that I would be against Obama's way of presiding the country. Perhaps I'm reading you wrong? It's hard to tell what people are thinking sometimes on these forums.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

-] -1 points by zacharilogan (-37) 11 minutes ago

And you're shooz's web bodyguard? You guys lovers or something? Why are you both stalking me?

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My My My - U sound suspiciously like a certain trash-can - U guys network?

[-] -1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I was thinking girl friday

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] -1 points by zacharilogan (-15) 1 minute ago

Sounds like you're paid to be Obama's web bodyguard.

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It "seems" as though U and Ur's do not know the difference between -

DEMOCRACY

&

DEMOCRAT

Not surprising.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

Yet you only repeat the name of a single "actor". Several times in fact, while ignoring all others..

Do you get paid by the number?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

i keep giving this points but the points they do nothing

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

What I was looking for was the names of the CEOs of the defense contractors and their attendant lobbyists. in New York, as well as their major controlling share holders.

Actual names, not political rhetoric..

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Well - now the strident republicon supporter sounds-off. SURPRISE - NOT.

Hey little sock - did you get reinstated? Ummm - by the site - I mean. Not by your Hot air-idness self.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

thanks

i do my best

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[-] -2 points by HeckleJekyll (-2) 9 years ago

You are correct.

President Barry, Oblahblah, Obomber is a con man. So are any others who support our corrupt money oriented political system. What has Obomber done to get money out of politics? To prosecute the criminals on Wall st? To stop the MIC? To end Neoliberalism policies that are destroying the Middle class? Clearly Barry is a puppet of the 1%.

The speech giver in chief. Monsanto protector, TPP promoter, war crimes, peace prize winner.

Why is this 1% puppet being vehemently defended on the Occupy forum?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

obummer ? vehemently defended ? aAHHAHAHAhahaha

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Responding here - "I" am pretty sure who U R - and I guess "U" remain the same ( no surprise ) - it is only OK 4 U 2 B insulting - Hey? U run around trying 2 put words in peoples mouths - and wonder why U might get slapped. This is an open forum - in that - posts and comments made R open 2 all 2 respond 2 - butt - "U" already know that.

BTW - it is not my fault that U R a Mental midget.

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

And the beat goes on - and the beat goes on - drums keep pounding dementia into it's Brain - la de da de de - la de da de da - and the beat goes on - and the beat goes on on on on

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] -2 points by zacharilogan (-37) 55 minutes ago

Do I know you? What's your real name. I use mine here. Here's my site: http://www.zacharilogan.com/

Like I said, I'm not here to play trolling games. Could you please stop stalking me?

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If U R not trying to impersonate this guy? U sound pretty much self-involved anyway. huh another reason U sound like a certain trash-can.

Zachari Logan | KALTBLUT MAGAZINE www.kaltblut-magazine.com/zachari-logan

„To express masculine bravado and superiority“ What a man, what a man. What a mighty good man. Yes! That is Zachari Logon. The Canadian is one of the stars of the ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Responding here - U R the 1 keeping the conversation going ( want to stop going back and forth? - don't reply. )

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Hey - shill boy - your song - drums keep pounding dementia into it's Brain - la de da de de - la de da de da - and the beat goes on - and the beat goes on on on on

One upped ? Sorry U feel that way. Not my fault if U R slow.

This place isn't healthy.

If so - U & yours made it that way.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

i am typhoid mary

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Beat your drum idiot - beat your drum. It's all obummers fault folks - listen to the voice of zack - it is all the fault of obummer.

What ( the people ask ) what is all the fault of obummer?

Why everything ( zack replies ) everything.

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[-] -2 points by zacharilogan (-54) 9 years ago

Nope, I didn't say it was all Obama's fault. Read my messages again. I said he's part of the problem, just like all the other 1%ers. But, because he's President of US, he's a 1% with a lot of power these days. If you read the Monsanto Protection Act, you'll find his signature.

We should go after all the 1%ers. No exceptions.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Well then - I would suggest you do a lot of work on how you present things. As - for right now - you - look to be - obsessed with obummer.

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[-] -1 points by buliau (-29) 9 years ago

Why would a user be considered a troll if a lot of people read his posts?

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] -1 points by zacharilogan (-6) 3 minutes ago

We are denouncing the complete disregard from the government of the United States which is led by Obama. You don't think he has a big responsibility to play in this? If not, that's fine. Include everyone else you want. Don't exclude Obama though. He's part of the 1%. I'm not sure why you got all uptight that I mentioned his name. Is it a taboo here or something? I noticed this other guy, shooz, seems upset as well.

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OH GO SPANK YOUR MEAT you little strident ass.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Who is defending obummer?

"The “No War With Syria” movement denounces the complete disregard of the government of the United States for the will of the American people as reflected in the government's decision to start yet another war."

The again - who is singling obummer out? Not the no war with Syria movement as your comment shows.

Here - for Ur enjoyment:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/mr-president-with-all-due-respect-fuck-you/

[-] -3 points by zacharilogan (-54) 9 years ago

We are denouncing the complete disregard from the government of the United States which is led by Obama. You don't think he has a big responsibility to play in this? If not, that's fine. Include everyone else you want. Don't exclude Obama though. He's part of the 1%. I'm not sure why you got all uptight that I mentioned his name. Is it a taboo here or something? I noticed this other guy, shooz, seems upset as well.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Who tied - presented and tied that legislation as a rider? A rider that would stop the legislation it was tied to? UMmmmmmmmmmm let me think ....

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

blood money compensation for all those blown to shlag by US arms

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[-] -1 points by buliau (-29) 9 years ago

Obama is a horrible president who's been leading America in the wrong direction since he's been elected. His idea of going to war is wrong and dangerous. We should occupy with vehemence and integrity to stop this war from happening. There are other ways America can intervene if it wants to be the world's savior.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

except every other section of the world has other plans

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[-] -1 points by buliau (-29) 9 years ago

Sarcasm doesn't really work on the InternetI guess.

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[-] -2 points by buliau (-29) 9 years ago

Obama joining Occupy to fund and create a huge world protest for peace would be amazing! That could change the world! I'd give him another Nobel Peace Prize for it.

Sadly, it won't happen. Obama is part of the 1%. He doesn't really care about peace even though he has a Nobel Peace Prize. You know the 1% are making a mockery of the world when they give the Nobel Peace prize to someone like Obama. I feel like they spat in my face.

[-] -2 points by zacharilogan (-54) 9 years ago

Ya, you're right. We need a president with integrity, honesty, and real will to help his people. But how? I don't think it's possible in the current system. Someone would have to be corrupted and malicious like Obama to even have a chance to make it to the top.

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[-] -2 points by zoealif (-3) 9 years ago

"Peace is created through compassion and forgiveness, which must come from within."???? Especially when you opponent is using chemical weapons. OMG - the US left intelligensia :/

Read some actual news from Syrians who have been protesting and opposing the Assad regime.

http://tahriricn.wordpress.com/ http://darthnader.net/ https://www.facebook.com/ActivistsNewsAssociation

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

We should stop trading with Russia and stop trading with any country that trades with Russia, until Russia tells Syria to stop this crap, but that would cost a lot of money and the American people will most likely decide to spend the lives of working class children instead.