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Officer Bologna

Posted 3 years ago on Sept. 26, 2011, 3:53 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Late last night we found out which white collar officer had maced our innocent protesters. We did not release this information as we had not yet come to a consensus on how to approach the situation. Earlier today we discovered that this information had already been released.

Yesterday, an NYPD spokesperson implied that we had edited the video to remove incriminating actions on the part of our peaceful protesters. Here are a few different angles and cuts of the event that we had not previously released:

As you can tell, we did not need to edit the video to implicate this officer in a gross and unconscionable crime.

This is the man who maced these young women without provocation.

His name is Anthony Bologna. We demand that he is charged for his crimes. We demand that he receives jail time.

We demand that Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly resigns. Not only can he not control his most senior officers, he is involved in actively sheltering them from receiving any punishment.

We demand that Mayor Michael Bloomberg address our General Assembly and apologize for the police brutality and the cover-up that followed.

This was an attempt to make us weak, this was an attempt to destroy or derail our message, our conversation. It has not succeeded. We have grown, we will grow. Today we received unconfirmed reports that over one hundred blue collar police refused to come into work in solidarity with our movement. These numbers will grow. We are the 99 percent. You will not silence us.

Please call:
Mayor Bloomberg: +1 (212) 639-9675 or +1 (212) 788-2958
Deputy Commissioner of Public Information: +1 (646) 610-6700
NYPD Switchboard: +1 (646) 610-5000
First precinct: +1 (212) 334-0611

Make our voice heard. Make sure that the world knows that everyone deserves equal protection, service, and punishment.

Remain true to our principles of non-violence.

UPDATE: 4:51 PM EST Two more videos of Officer Bologna senselessly attacking peaceful protesters.

Boston Review reports on being maced by Anthony Bologna

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[-] 4 points by brooklyn4life (18) 3 years ago

The NYPD is not the enemy. They're merely pawns in the game.

Keep focus. Don't be incited into violence. Don't play by their rules.

[-] 2 points by itsgodzilla1393 (2) from Greensboro, NC 3 years ago

someone up tops using all the White Collar Police brutality to try to start a riot... i assume..

[-] 4 points by LloydJHart (190) from Vineyard Haven, MA 3 years ago

This for the press team. You are doing a great job. This latest report has shown the corporate media and the NYC police commissioner up for what they really are, shills for the 1%.

I or anybody else in the alternative media community could not have handled this better. You are the best of who we are.

To everyone else: Donate whatever small or large amount of money you can to keep these deeply inspiring activists going. They are going to lead us to the promise of a just future.

Donate here: The Occupy Wall St. Media Team Fund https://www.wepay.com/donate/158502

[-] 0 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

What could be done about this is to find where he lives, something along the lines of a "human flesh search engine", once we find that out, special ops teams could prevent him from sleeping, put shame on him, etc, until he has to move, I would stop there, but many people wouldn't.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

What you advocate is criminal. Becoming criminals does not help make the case or argument for right regarding the just complaints. I think you should read some law - to keep yourself out of trouble. Tony Baloney needs to do some time in jail - his brutality is inexcusable and needs to be addressed by criminal prosecution, not by putting a 'team' on him to become criminals. The last time someone tried to scare me, I told them I would not be afraid until I feared for my life - and then I would know exactly how to deal with the problem the presented. That person turned away and never again said a word to me of any kind. I did not rant, rave, shout, yell, curse or call names. I simply told them the facts as I saw them and told them in so many words to do what they considered to be wise. Tony is apparently dangerous - making him more dangerous, especially more nervous and sleep deprived stripping him of what little common sense he does possess is wrong, emotionally satisfying to a temper tantrum, but very dangerous to all he is near. I believe that with the evidence available a citizens arrest, performed by law in the precinct itself would be appropriate. Once under citizens arrest I believe the other officers, bound by oath of service, would be legally obligated to arrest him. Convict him of a felony, just one, and he will NEVER be a police officer ever again, even with a pardon... Do you want to address a solution, or have a hate party that never ends?

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

also see this http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/27/occupy-wall-street-anthony-bologna?newsfeed=true "Anthony Bologna, NYPD officer accused of pepper-spray incident, is accused of civil rights violations at the time of the 2004 Republican national convention protests"

[-] -3 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Anthony V Bologna

(518) 989-9051

5 Sawyer Ave

Staten Island, NY 10314-2940 Age: 55-59 Associated: Linda S Bologna, Dana M Bologna, Jenna A Bologna

[-] 2 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

"Traditional non-violent protest is dead as a means of reversing bad organizational behavior.

It's easily ignored/overlooked in a media saturated environment and the methods of controlling

and marginalizing it have become widely practiced/tolerated (from "free speech zones" to

non-lethal weapons to crowdsourced identification of protesters). Further, shame doesn't work

anymore as a means of dissuasion. Given these impediments, the revival of protest means

rethinking how it is used as a coercive tool. It means going beyond attrition (boycotts, physical

damage, etc.) and moral suasion (signage, marches, etc.) and into the realm of systemic

disruption. Here's one approach.

In most large traditional organizations, whether they be corporations or bureaucracies,

decision making is dominated by a small number of very powerful people protected by

a phalanx of senior specialists. They are not democracies. Yet, in modern western societies,

this elite group and their specialists are able to dissociate themselves from jobs when it comes

to their private lives. They live unencumbered within our impersonal society. This window of

vulnerability creates a yawning opportunity for innovative forms of disruptive non-violent protest.

One that pierces the organizational and societal veil of anonymity for these individuals by turning

them into systempunkts (vulnerable nodes within the targeted organization's network that would

cause the most damage if disrupted). Essentially, if you can successfully deter/coerce individual

decision makers in this decision making group, you will win (and quickly).

Early work on this type of protest can be seen in the work of 4Chan's Anonymous and China's

human flesh search engine. Both of these open source movements have shown to be

surprisingly powerful at targeting single individuals (and poor at disrupting organizations).

By using thousands of contributers, they are able to gather intelligence information on an

individual (and their family). In short, learn everything about the target down to bank account

numbers. This then enables the movement to target the individual and their family with:

  • Stalking and harassment. In the street, at a restaurant, or at school.
  • Identity theft. From financial to professional. Publication of private information.
  • Denial of communication. Flood phones, e-mail accounts, voice-mail, etc.

" http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/06/coercive-games.html

"Here's some more global guerrilla thinking in regards to coercing organizational hierarchies.

The more you focus on a single person in the senior decision making group, the more effective

the coercion is. Blanket coercion is weaker since it allows the consequences to be shared by a

group. Think aggressive, amorphous mass vs. single individual. Objective: connect decision

making within corporate hierarchies with personal consequence.

Shame (public pressure) and guilt (traditional morality) are useless as tools for regulating

behavior within the modern context. A market-based morality dominates in the commercial

sector: if you make money doing something, it is good to do. Within non-commercial

organizations the vulnerability is more often the concept of a career. Career advancement and

continuity dominates all thinking. Methods of correction: Taint the career. Destroy the value

derived from financial rewards.

Focus on bounding the hierarchy's decision making processes. It's much more difficult to force

an active decision (new action) than to deter a decision.

The most senior decision maker isn't likely the best target. Target those nearby since the

risk/reward ratio is more favorable to successful coercion.

Limited goals that are binary, specific, and well defined are much more likely to be successful

than amorphous goals. It will not only attract more participants, it is easier to achieve through

coercion.

Success breeds replication. "

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/06/journal-more-thoughts-on-coercing-organizational-hierarchies.html

[-] 1 points by TonyBoloney (3) 3 years ago

Ray Kelly lives at 375 South End Ave, Gateway Plaza in Battery Park City. Please pay him a visit.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

Yeah, and if Ray Kelly is who I think he is, you risk anything from conspiracy charges ( a felony in itself in some states) to pouring hydrazine on a fire. Not a good idea, even if it is a liquid... Again, those that say that peaceful demonstration does not work are not really seeing what is happening - it IS working, but these problems did NOT happen overnight, so forcing a cure by tomorrow morning is not realistic even if it was possible. Stay calm, stay sober, resist invective and name calling, use the calm quiet pressure of deepening water to push your issues, not the fast cheap thrill of explosive action and reaction. The force of law, properly applied, does not rely on shame and guilt... yet it can be irresistible. Please remember that these cops are quite likely scared - scared of losing their jobs, scared of being mobbed, scared of that first shot that begins a shooting war... and they DID NOT DO THIS TO YOU, Wall Street and corrupt politicians did. Stop cussing them, stop calling them names, by all means collect evidence of abuses - eventually American justice will come to bear and the will of the people will dominate these haughty sorts that feel they can own your civil rights by proving they can violate them with impunity and immunity. Prove them wrong, and do it by using the peoples law, the peoples courts and not by inciting riots, terroristic threats, stalking and unlawful harassment.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

"The most senior decision maker isn't likely the best target. Target those nearby since the

risk/reward ratio is more favorable to successful coercion."

[-] 1 points by Natasha (5) 3 years ago

Very interesting points, and I agree that shame and guilt are useless, and amorphous goals have always lead the Left to failure. But how do non-techno geeks utilize these techniques (not meaning to be insulting, I wish I was a techno-geek, really).

[-] 1 points by Keenen25 (1) from Wilmington, NC 3 years ago

I think this is where people on the right and left form different perceptions of reality. I'm liberal and I think that reality itself is amorphous. Therefore, if you want to be able to make a harmonious society the grey areas must be recognized and not ignored. I would agrue that the quagmire is that while this is perceived to lead the left to political failure, ignoring the imperfections and inconvenient truths that the left tends to realize also leads to failure. There is far too much of an expectation of instant gratification in our society. This is where those who say raising the taxes on the rich will not solve all our problems. No it won't solve all our problems instantly. The debt if 14 trillion. But definately within 5 years that debt would be decreased significantly. The electorate expects to see things change in 2 years that have been destroyed in the past 10 years. It is impossibe to satisfy this expectation.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

There are many ways non-technogeeks can utilize these techniques, what's your field of passion?

[-] 1 points by mstressr (13) 3 years ago

This post has a lot of good ideas. The majority of these fall under civil disobedience and toe the legal line

[-] 2 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

Obviously, Antony Bologna is a scum bag and I certainly hope he serves time for his crimes, but I don't think posting his personal address will help the cause.

[-] 3 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Information wants to be free, my friend.

[-] 1 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

I can't argue with that. :) I just hope no one does anything drastic or harmful.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Me too, we should learn to be voluntarily measured.

[-] -3 points by capitalism (-9) 3 years ago

He is not a scum bag, he is doing his job to keep the peace

[-] 2 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 3 years ago

he was 'kettling' those women - this is a known technique to provoke violence on the part of the protestors. he was doing exactly the opposite of keeping the peace, my friend.
they were doing a lot of kettling during the london riots, and they hired agents provocateurs too.

[-] 1 points by Lawful (3) 3 years ago

I agree. Should be made illegal to post a person's private information. I hope officer Bologna takes at least Civil action.

[-] 1 points by jim (1) 3 years ago

well it certainly worked! that's why the protest is over and he's not under 2 investigations.

[-] 1 points by capitalism (-9) 3 years ago

You are going to have hell if anything happens to him or his family

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Furthermore, are you nervous Capitalism?

[-] 1 points by capitalism (-9) 3 years ago

Nervous? No, I just respect law enforcement and the government

[-] 2 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 3 years ago

I respect a government and law enforcement that upholds their oath to defend the Constitution and to serve the people of the United States.

Unfortunately, the members of those two organizations that do that are few and far between.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

no one is born to respect other than the basic respect for life and civil rights due any person - laws are printed, that does not make them right or just - Hitler passed many laws that violated the basic principles of simple humanity, much less any justifiable authority. Simply because they were decreed and backed by force of arms did not make them just or right. I also support just, fair - in short AMERICAN law and AMERICAN government. However I do agree with many in these demonstrations that AMERICA is being bought up by 'variable rate mortgages' (figuratively speaking) imposed by the 1 percenters. It actually heartens me to see that people are FINALLY waking up to the treason being conducted under their very noses by those who apparently have had far too much privilege, far too much means, and far too much freedom to abuse the freedoms and rights of others. It scares the hell out of me to see anyone advocating unlawful means to harass, intimidate, incite or otherwise become a mirror of the abuses, in opposite reaction to the abuses we the people suffered. I have no doubts that this entire - so far peaceful, amazingly peaceful - demonstration could turn into a conflagration in an instant. Those who will not respect law for what it is would have us return to the days of the Hatfields and McCoys, the shootouts in main street at high noon, the rule of bullets and the justice of the fast draw. When money rules instead of justice, America bleeds. When mobs rule instead of justice, America bleeds. The more blood we lose, the weaker we are. Let us not join in victimizing ourselves with our anger.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

I respect respectable law enforcement and respectable governments.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Really? and tell me, if anything happens to him or his family, how would anybody know that the people that did it got the information from here and not from here: http://pastebin.com/nC4f5uca ? That pastebin got 55 Thousand views.

[-] 0 points by Lawful (3) 3 years ago

Javier and others....you should prove that you stand by what you say and do and post your own Name, Address, Phone Numbers, workplace if you have one. Otherwise, just a hypocrite.

[-] 2 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

Just theoretically...a police officer serves the public. What is wrong with us knowing who we send out into the streets, armed & dangerous, to "protect" us.

Knowing who a police officer is is the polar opposite of those fascist-like masked cops in riot gear with no faces that we see now. In a free society, police should not be appearing in the street with their faces covered to interface with protesters who are exercising constitutional rights. I have no problem with police info being public it should be.

(I will give props to NYPD for not deploying anything like that, btw)

[-] 2 points by oaco4242 (56) 3 years ago

The police are there to serve and protect....but they never finish that sentence. They are there to serve and protect, our laws. Which is our government -- they do not serve us, nor do they protect us...unless the law they are protecting, protects us.

[-] 1 points by powertothepeople (1264) 3 years ago

good point

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

there is nothing wrong with passing out free book matches - up to the point that a line is crossed passing them out for purposes of arson. the matches may be legal, the gifting of them may be legal (and right), the arson is NOT. I believe that all reading this may just consider that there may be some agents provocateurs posting herein... I can only imagine the delight of some of the very wealthy and corrupt at seeing the demonstration(s) become seedbeds for prosecutable conspiracies and criminal incitements.

[-] 1 points by Javier (283) from Villa Maipú, Buenos Aires 3 years ago

Unit A

[-] 3 points by MitchelCohen (3) 3 years ago

NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne "cautioned against accepting the videos at face value," and said: "I'd beware of video supplied and edited by protagonists," referring to the several videos of a police officer spraying mace into the faces of several young women who were illegally coralled by the NYPD.

Dear DepCom Browne,

Thank you so much for your warning against trusting "videos edited by protagonists" -- even if they were not edited at all. That's a small point. We clearly should only accept WORDS of protagonists, such as those spoken by officials of the NYPD. It's clear that videos are dangerous to understanding reality, as you so eloquently point out; what we need is your official interpretation, so we will not get blinded by the obvious truths the videos depict.

Yours,

Mitchel Coheh Brooklyn Greens/Green Party, and Chair, WBAI (99.5 FM) Local Station Board*

*for ID only

[-] 3 points by jhummel (3) 3 years ago

Sign the petition to jail Anthony Bologna for assault and remove Raymond Kelly as police commissioner! http://www.change.org/petitions/mayor-michael-bloomberg-remove-raymond-kelly-jail-anthony-bologna

[-] 3 points by Bee (9) 3 years ago

The police department has stated that it does not use mace. It is likely that the protesters were pepper sprayed rather than maced.

This is in no way intended to excuse or minimize the assaults on the protesters, just a bid for accuracy. Please verify.

On another note, as another commenter mentioned, I too am concerned about the tone of the rhetoric in these statements. I agree with your sentiments, but perhaps the wording could take a different tone, one that is more objective and less emotionally charged.

[-] 0 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 3 years ago

police are evil scum sucking bottom feeding social parasites and are committing assorted crimes including assault and in essence class and caste treason. That IS toned down. Its time for the blunt and real truth. pigs are evil swine and the lot of them deserve prison.

[-] 2 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

OMG, a blanket condemnation that is utterly stupid on the face of it! There are two kinds of cops to my mind, the neighbor who is just doing a job - with difficulty and danger at times, a social lifeguard in the swimming pools of humanity - and the 'gunslingers', the cowboys, the 'funboy gunboys' - Don't condemn the uniform, condemn the criminals hiding behind the protection of the brilliance of the badge and the glory of the uniform. Did firefighters track down Son of Sam? John Gacey? No, cops did and good on em for it! Fire fighters do their job, and we NEED them doing their jobs, like paramedics, like teachers, like police when they do their jobs rightfully and soberly. Ever stand in their shoes? I stopped a guy twice my size from stomping a fifteen year old kids face into a Berkeley sidewalk - with nothing but a oak walking staff some pilgrim character had with him. The guy was ripped on barbiturates and craving alcohol. The kid wouldn't buy weed from him so... he hit the kid so hard it lifted him through the air and then Gargantua decided to take a running jump at the kid. Only since there were no 'real cops' around, and not being raised to watch this happen and do nothing - there I was in his way. I was scared shitless, which may have been a good thing since I only owned one pair of pants at the time. My point is - these cops did not CAUSE THE PROBLEMS the demonstration addresses, respect that they have a legitimate interest and obey the lawful orders. Unlawful orders they have no authority to give, but like in driving school we were taught that starting a fight over the right of way, well, you could end up right - dead right. And I have no doubt that there are some who are itching to see a fatality, on either side and they probably, for their purposes, don't really give a tinkers damn whose side suffers the death... I think there are those in this just to see the clash for their own self justification and ulterior motives. DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM and have some sympathy for the working Joes in uniform ... we all know how nervous we get around cops, just them being cops even if we are doing nothing wrong - it is part of the sickness of our culture. Think how they must feel being surrounded, even blamed and cursed for things they didn't even do! Until you are genius to invent some kind of functionary that can do the necessary functions of the police, some superior functionary that can out perform and replace police - refrain from the patent stupidity of condemning all police everywhere for the actions of a few criminals in uniform. Thank you and good night.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 3 years ago

there is only one kind of cop. Somebody who checked their conscience, ethics, morality, and humanity at the door to wage war against the masses on behalf of the elites. I have experienced it directly time and time and time again. I KNOW from personal experience. My point is, THESE cops are rabidly and flagrantly breaking the law, assaulting people, and proving my point. every action we see from them proves they are evil scum sucking social parasites. I do not have sympathy for working joes in uniform. And neither does God nor karma. When these pigs die they go straight to hell. "I was just doing my job" won't be an excuse then and its not an excuse now. A few criminals in uniform? THEY ARE ALL criminals in uniform. By definition. The idea that there can even BE a "good cop" ignores the simple fact of what happens to "good" people as they are programmed and taken into the system as cops. They either loose their conscience and become bad or they get kicked off the force and sometimes they even lose their lives standing up to corruption.

Ever watch any movies about police corruption in the 1920s? Its gotten WORSE.

take your head out of thesand and face reality as it is. If pigs had a conscience, they would refuse to participate in beating down crowds, they would refuse to be involved even in holding back crowds while other pigs beat people down. In fact if there WAS such a thing as a GOOD cop; why aren't they shooting the evil ones in the foot to prevent them from assaulting innocent people?

There is no such creature. Show me a good cop and I will show you a con cam parasite with a really good ability for acting. Stop telling me unicorns still exist and face the grim reality.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

Judge not lest ye judge thyself. In your judgements you publish your own values, your own sense of right and wrong, your own ability to be fair, impartial and your own standing as a reasoning person. In addendum, you have never, EVER seen lyssavirus rhabdovirus (rabies) at work have you? Hope you never do. What about all the cops who refused to go to work on this? Are the scum sucking pigs to risk being fired for breach of contract? Good cops don't just judge and execute people. You been watching too much Judge Dread and Dirty Harry. A vigilante executioner equals a murderer - and good cops are not murderers. I actually regret that all the good cops that were good enough to want to stay out of this did not go to work. This situation NEEDS every good cop there is to balance the bad cops. And yes, those that see the law being violated by a so called officer and do nothing are inferior, defective cops, if not malicious and evil as you would make them out to be. Still the situation is potentially disasterous and every good cop present could help balance the outcome in favor of less or no assaults, injuries, etc. Maybe the cops with the blue flu could use their badges to pin a dollar to their uniforms - showing their protest as well even while doing their job, to maintain the peace. Yes I have seen movies - and the writers always get to play God with the truth and the fates of the characters, even to the point of bringing them back to life when they wish. This is to my mind as realistic as your assessment of this situation. I too have been abused by the bad kind of cop - and have a lifetime injury, disability and scar down the middle of my body to show for it. I was cut open sternum to bellybutton to save my life after a beating in jail where I was locked up with thirty street gangbangers who had beaten someone to death 'because they din' like them'. They din' like me either. I had no insurance, no family to fall back on, no one that cared if I died - a social worker gave me a bus ticket to Long Beach and told me 'I don't care if you die, just don't die here - it wouldn't look good'. And I am still not as vicious towards all cops as your statements are. I save my anger for the bad ones, the criminals in uniform that hide behind the badge to snipe at their chosen targets with their criminal actions. I can't get my face out of the sand, or vice versa, I live in the desert, my face in the sand is a natural and inevitable condition. And if they were so evil as you have pointed out, where is the mustard gas? The chain gunning of the crowds, the frag grenades? This crowd could be sent running in seconds, if the same cops you blame for not gunning down other cops decided that the 'radicals' were as execution worthy as any cop committing brutality. You have not walked a mile in their shoes, in fact I suspect that you are either a troll or an agent provocateur working to incite bloody violence either for your own entertainment or for some other 'grim reality' such as monetary payment. I believe any sane person is likely to agree with my take on the situation and I do believe that if these postings are being reviewed by any Federal agencies you have likely already gained your very own folder in an agency file somewhere - or made it thicker... And the bitterest taste you will ever know is when you must eat your own words.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 3 years ago

its crucial to make the right call on this, because imagining that there can be any such creature as a unicorn.. er.. i mean.. good cop- can lead to critical strategic errors. Pigs ARE evil scum sucking bottomg feeding caste soldiers. Thats what they ARE. If you have a problem with that, maybe a short little parable mayhelp. Once upon a time there was a man who thought that he had a special relationship with grizzlies. he Hung out with them several seasons in a row without incident. He was so confident of his relationship he took his girlfriend with him. And then. Both of them were eaten alive. The end. You want tell me that there are two kinds of grizzlies. the kind that eat people and the kind that don't. I'm here to tell you and everyone that there is one kind of animal, and no matter how cozy you think you are or can get with them- that animal is a soul less, sociopathic, evil creature. This is not me being harsh on them. It is me providing a factual assessment of the hard truth because otherwise people will GET HURT.

"good cops" ? Which ones? Again, this mythical creature you talk about does not exist and never has. They kill people all the time without consequence. "good" cops aren't murderers. REAL cops are, in case you missed the venn diagram there, the set of REAL cops does not include any actual "GOOD" cops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_Man

By all means. Go try to have a "GOOD" relationship with the cops. Go be a Pig whisperer. See what happens the moment they decide to grab the nearest victim to beat down in any case.

When you get hurt because you didn't listen, don't cry to me about it. When other people get hurt because they failed to take the danger seriously- when somebody gets beat down because they thought they could talk or reason with a pig- this stupid politically correct rhetoric is part of the reason why that happened.

There are NO good cops.

If there were, they would have actually joined the protest, instead of being class warriors. A storm trooper works for the evil emperor, it does no good to imagine that there are good storm troopers. They are on the wrong side of the force- period.

[-] 1 points by Lawful (3) 3 years ago

Remember NOT to call the police then when a crime is occurring to you or your family.

[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

We never do; we just have to call on Winchester, and Smith and Wesson.

[-] 0 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

Regardless of whether it was pepper spray or mace being used, it is still police brutality. I don't think the tone needs adjusting. It is a passionate movement.

[-] 3 points by agent139 (13) 3 years ago

+1.

Plus as an advocate of gonzo journalism: frankly, fuck objectivity. Just be clear about your bias and own it.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

fuck objectivity is NOT journalism, I know, I was a photojournalist for several years. I do writing on occasion as well. fuck objectivity is attitude, petty, unreasoning, and at times in some situations irresponsible and possibly malicious. No objectivity, no fair and impartial assessment of facts, no facts, no truth. Do you advocate the best liar wins? The most passionate liar? Some day your life might depend on fair and impartial objectivity, dispassionate and reasoned judgement. real journalists know this, even Hunter Thompson knew this.

[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

I agree, you can't be objective with parasites in society. You have to remove them and dispose of them (life in jail--real jail).

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

great idea, put all cops in jail is that right? Can I watch while you put on a badge and arrest them? Oh wait, then you would have to lock yourself in because you arrested the criminals, right? Oh no Mr. Bill, we can't arrest all the police and arrest all the criminals too! and how do we arrest ourselves for doing their job? Gee, a real puzzler, isn't it. Read up on child murderers caught and convicted, home invasions and associated murders - caught and convicted, serial rapists caught and convicted... jail all the 'parasites' that caught and convicted the monsters that did those and even worse crimes, and YOU are going to chase them down? I wanna see that, on video please... Only you MAY have been talking about criminals who hide in the uniform - but you did NOT say that, did you? Please return to GO, put brain in gear before motoring mouthparts...

[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

Don't get all trigger happy on the keyboard with me! "Put [your] brain in gear before motoring mouthparts," please; please be modest enough to take your own advice! You could have asked for clarification before jumping to conclusions with your implications. Cops are not the parasites, Bologna is an idiot who made poor decisions and should be responsible for them. The parasites are the top 1% income earners and the people who gambled with the US economy.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

only a fool mistakes passion for justified reason.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

I agree.

[-] 3 points by Binh (83) 3 years ago

Maybe we should do chants incorporating this guy's name whenever he is spotted. To know that he is being watched very closely might keep him in line.

[-] 3 points by nonymous (3) 3 years ago

I'm so glad you took the time to clarify that - every article I read that covered this had mentioned the quote that the videos must have been edited even though it was pretty clear that they were not. We will not be silenced! We have the power to change things!

[-] 2 points by tonyb (2) 2 years ago

Tony Bologny has two masters: Ray Kelly “Shorty” and his buddies from NYC Mafia. www.PoliceMafia.com

[-] 2 points by Binh (83) 3 years ago

The other officer to watch out for is Deputy Inspector John D'Adamo. He is the one who is in the NYT picture stretched over a barricade to snatch a protester. He was also in the news for this: http://gothamist.com/2011/02/17/bronx_nypd_wife_caught_in_black_men.php

[-] 2 points by arroyoribera (2) 3 years ago

Predictable police repression of protests which, were they to spread in size and intensity, would risk becoming a threat to the legitimacy and control of the US ruling class over the people of this country. The portrayl of this sort of police violence as aberrations or actions of rouge cops, etc., grossly fails to understand both what is at stake and what the reaction of the police state will be to continued "unrest".This is normal cop behavior (NY or otherwise) in situations requiring repression to prevent "the people" from increasing their presence and power. The purpose of this police violence is to intimidate, scare and deter additional participants in these protests. The same approach was seen at the 2008 Republican and Democratic National Conventions, at the FTAA protests in Miami, at the Port of Olympia and Tacoma protest, etc. The intent to is to make it painful (literally) and costly (legally) and damaging (physically) to participate. The more random, the more irrational, the more bizarre and unexpected the police violence is, the more that "ordinary" folks are going to want to avoid it. My understanding is that all the white shirted police are NYC Police management. There is a slow motion video on an MSNBC video showing (starting at 3min and 30 seconds into the video) one of these higher ranking police officials macing young women corralled by the NYPD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UHsLccXQUY The MSNBC report is very interesting for the commentator's condemnation of police brutality. Yet he still fails to make the direct connection between this strategic nature of this type of "random", "senseless", "unjustified", "in public sight", "in plain daylight" violence. This is about making it very risky for the timid, the "law abiding citizen", the half-heartedly committed to resort to this sort of approach to dealing with our government, our white collar crooks, etc. Here is further video of Officer Bologna macing these women. https://occupywallst.org/article/Officer-Bologna/ This is only one of many, many acts of extreme, apparently unjustified police violence against protesters. The important thing to understand is that from the perspective of the ruling elite this is not only justified but absolutely required repression. The stability and viability of the "system" requires it. Anyone who doesn't think their own police department will do the same is, in my opinion, dangerously naive.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

when you speak to 'the system' I presume you to speak to the CORRUPT system, which in hard fact is a breakdown of the legitimate system. we the people have allowed this, not speaking up or 'getting involved' until we were involved as victims ourselves. We must realize that we share in the blame for our own victimizations, being enablers of the abusers - and have faith that the true system properly used will sort this mess out and remedy wrongs without bloodshed or martyrs of blood. Of course we are angry - we should be! But the anger should fuel our engines of reason - not just be dumped out the window and lit to impress everyone with the ferocity of a fire out of control. If we use our 'heat' for fuel, we will get more mileage than a bonfire will give us, and far fewer injuries and much less property damages.

[-] 2 points by forfreedom (2) 3 years ago

I just tried to call Bloomberg's office and was transferred four times until I finally got NYPD internal affairs. The woman I spoke to at internal affairs assured me that they would be investigating the complaint against the officer (Anthony Bologna, allegedly) who maced the protesters. She was very rude and interrupted me every time I tried to ask her a question. She would not tell me if anyone outside of internal affairs was investigating the complaint. I asked to speak to her boss or her bosses boss but she continued to interrupt me and tried to shut me down.

All we can do is keep the pressure on and keep making phone calls expressing our outrage at the police actions against the protesters and let them know that giving us the run-around will not work.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

I would have more faith in the objectivity and calm civility you displayed on that phone call if you had recorded it (check local laws first!) and posted it online. What kind of questions were you asking? What was your tone of voice when she got 'rude'? Out of the probably THOUSANDS of phone calls received by 'the man' (likely including some from the White House and maybe even the Dept. of Justice... why should your call rate being put at the top of the priority list? Jamming the phones does nothing except prevent the legitimate functions of the police department, and that hurts everyone. Me, I would read the NY state laws regarding 'citizens arrest', and with cameras running and evidence in hand, insist on making a citizens arrest of Tony Baloney - after which, by law (in CA. at least) the sworn officers would be obligated to take him into custody. Oh, wait, using the law to legitimately address a crime by a criminal - gee that would never work, now would it? Well, not if it was never tried...

[-] 2 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Corraling peaceful demostrators like cattle and attacking hem with pepper spray. Noewhere in Europe has this hjappened. When this happens in a country the US does not like it is a crime against people. But in the US it is no rime. This is fascism with a lot of democratic make-up and disguise. No democracy but bank-ocracy and fake-ocracy. Shame on the Police Chief, shame on their boss Mayor Bloomberg, shame on his boss Obama and shame on his boss Wall Street and shame on the US.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

Um ever heard of Black Sunday? Obviously not, or you don't consider Ireland a part of Europe... and Obama? How did he become responsible for all of this? there was once a king that appointed his vegetable garden to his cabinet. Whenever something would go wrong he would order a big salad with lots of lettuce and report to the people that several cabinet members had been beheaded. As yet, despite the apparent arrogance of the one percent, this is NOT a totalitarian regime... and only in an absolute totalitarian tyranny is ONE man absolutely to blame for everything... Or do you condemn the best president since the Florida hanging chads and dimpled ballots to be absolutely responsible as a totalitarian absolute ruler? I would like to ask Mr. President if he voted to decriminalize bucket shops (deregulate Wall Street) along with the rest of Congress... and what the hell he was thinking!!!

[-] 2 points by Fangs78 (2) from Bergen, Hordaland 3 years ago

Be strong! I love what you are doing!

Love from Norway.

Ps: is it illegal for cops in NY to be fit?

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

apparently the vast majority only need to fit into their pants... grin.

[-] 2 points by ZinnReader (92) from Encinitas, CA 3 years ago

Remember that the end of violence or the aftermath of violence is bitterness. The aftermath of nonviolence is reconciliation and the creation of a beloved community.

The nonviolent resister seeks to attack the evil system rather than individuals who happen to be caught up in the system. Importantly, it must remain clear that the struggle is between justice and injustice, and not between anything that strays from that focus.

[-] 2 points by LeeDean (2) 3 years ago

Should not be allowed his beat.

[-] 2 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 3 years ago

The police are being utterly humiliated on Wall Street. All you can do is make them realize it. Inside the buildings, laws are bent, and laws are broken. People's homes are taken away using forged signatures. Money that is supposed to be safe is bet on casino investments, because the public is forced to pay the losses. The police themselves may lose their jobs, lose their Social Security and Medicare to budget cuts to offset bailouts and giveaways, lose their homes to the ever-rising poverty of the 99% - but they can't investigate the people doing it. They have to trust a few federal agencies to do it that have a revolving door policy with the companies they regulate. Meanwhile, the police are arresting people for kneeling or writing in chalk on a sidewalk, and doing so solely because those people are complaining about the criminals. Not even the Mexican police Calderon sent to patrol without guns because of mass corruption have looked so ridiculous.

I bet that the police have a lot more power than they think to fight back against the real crooks, if they would organize with one another and with progressive-minded people around the world. From the news it sounds like although Bernie Madoff was of no interest to regulatory agencies, there were a fair number of individuals clearly aware of his Ponzi scheme years before it became public. Imagine if a few good New York cops had simply taken these people's complaints and run him in a few billion dollars earlier. We all know there are more Madoffs out there right now. There has to be some way that the police can stand up for their dignity.

[-] 2 points by Natasha (5) 3 years ago

Lawrence O'Donnell did GREAT, and very angry coverage on The Last Word- he really nails the cops, and not just the NYPD. Shows the slow-mo of the pepper spray attack and one videographer getting his head smashed against a car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgr3DiqWYCI&feature=share

[-] 2 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

This violent resistance to peaceful demonstration by police shows how entranced so many people are. Not one of those officers is even close to being a powerful wall street billionaire, so why are they defending their "lords" above? These police are blindly following orders and have blood lust; what I am most concerned about is how many people have not seen these videos or will defend the actions and say "they are just doing their job." I would reply "to undermine democracy and the principles of community?"

The world has better quality of life since the smashing of monarchies and feudal systems, but is class stratification much different? Unfortunately, I do not think so. The old money families and greedy narcissists are alive and well, giant parasites that our society has yet to figure out how to remove, but will when we can organize larger networks and continue to protest or "culture jam" through movements like OWS. Perhaps the minions of the misers will realize the disparity of their actions and start to wake up.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

You seem to presume that all of these police are malicious, cold, calculating, predatory and malignant - not surrounded, being blamed for things not their fault, harassed, insulted and verbally assaulted with cussing, invectives, name calling and general unfocused hostility inflicted by people who know full well that they cannot directly assault those they believe directly responsible for their suffering EVEN IF THEY DID KNOW EXACTLY WHO WAS TO BLAME, WHY AND WHEN! I don't even have to walk a mile in their shoes to know they constantly fear that at any moment the 'peaceful demonstration' could erupt in a frenzy of mob violence. Emotion, passion, will never replace the beneficial rule of reason. Abusing the ones you can reach because the real perps are hiding out next to a wet bar indoors - not mature, not reasonable and - whereas the threats are posed to people armed with lethal weapons, not really intelligent at all, in any wise. You would not think it out of the ordinary for police to be present at a Thanksgiving parade or other large public event. This IS a large public event! Great, but don't put down the officers who are honestly trying to prevent an outbreak of violence along with the hemorrhoids (bloody pain in the ass) that seem to want to instigate violence.

[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

If the cops don't like they game, they don't have to play it. "I was just following orders" does not give you carte blanche. I can't beat the shit out of someone for looking at me and saying something without facing assault charges. If I severely injure someone because I am suspicious, it doesn't give me amnesty from justice. Make examples out of criminal cops like Bologna, and support cops who have a level head and do not fire until fired upon.

[-] 2 points by mstressr (13) 3 years ago

Bring Bologna to justice!

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

smear him with the Grey Poupon!

[-] 2 points by don (6) 3 years ago

the police watching should be arrested also.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

in fact witnessing a probable felony assault with no action would seem to in fact constitute a violation, a breach of their oath of service. However have you tried to arrest YOUR boss lately?

[-] 1 points by don (6) 3 years ago

yesssssssss

[-] 2 points by Vins (2) 3 years ago

To have any chance of getting Bologna fired (and holding Kelly accountable), they have to hear from elected officials. The easiest way is to call the office of Manhattan Borough President, Scott Stringer, and tell the operator that you'd like to register a complaint against a New York City police officer. They will put you through to Jennifer Ashley, Deputy Director of Community Affairs.

The phone number and address is:

Scott Stringer Manhattan Borough President 1 Centre St # 19S New York, NY 10007-1613 (212) 669-8300

Definitely call those other numbers posted on this blog, but most of them were busy just now when I called. Scott Stringer's office picked up immediately, and his office will be able to get through to the Mayor and the 1st Precinct much more readily than any of us.

Peace...

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

I believe that you are all still missing out on the citizens arrest option. A properly defined list of charges as defined under the black letter law statutes of the State of New York, lodged against him in a citizens arrest in the manner provided for by law would in fact force either his arrest or a very embarrassing instance of his superiors violating the states laws for their own agenda, whatever that might be, by their protecting him from legitimate arrest and prosecution on legitimate criminal charges preferred against him under the laws of the state.

[-] 2 points by MartinUK (4) 3 years ago

Another good reason for publishing Bologna's details is that the other incident over which he is accused of violating people's civil rights was in 2004, yet still nothing has been done. So you can wait for another seven years or more while the establishment play for time until they can let this man escape unpunished for what he did to those women, or you can at least make him uncomfortable in the knowledge that all his neighbors will know what he did, and help to deter other cops from behaving like that. It's not enough, of course, but it's better than leaving it to the establishment to kick it into the long grass for the next seven years.

[-] 2 points by MartinUK (4) 3 years ago

Bexley, I disagree. I think publishing the cop's home address and other personal details will indeed help the cause, because it will make other cops think twice before abusing peaceful law abiding people in the future.

I predict that this cop will get away with what he did, just as he would if it had happened where I live (the UK) and that he will be protected by the 1%. They won't do anything to deter other cops from behaving like that, so the people have to do it for them.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

I disagree. Publishing his personal information does nothing to enhance the legitimate and legal processes that may yet be used against him for his crimes - IF anyone is motivated to actually USE the law when it is on their side instead of directly, or indirectly, inciting to unlawful confrontation, harassment and increasing the risk of even more tragic unforeseen consequences. I predict he will NOT 'get away' with what he did. The city of New York will likely pay for the entire college education of all those women assaulted, including entertainment allowances, new clothes etc. The settlement on this lawsuit will have NY lawyers stepping on their tongues trying to sign on. And a criminal conviction (especially if a felony) will ensure that this 'rogue cop' will never wear a badge in the US ever again. If you can find a Vegas bookie that will handle the bet, I would be willing, if legal in all respects, to place a wager on his being held to account. Will you place a wager against it?

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

I agree totally.

[-] 2 points by beanyboy (13) 3 years ago

This is why we need more people to get in there as street medics. I heard in one report that there was a street medic there that provided liquid antacid to the blogger/reporter that got some spray on the side of her face. We need more people like that guy. Be prepared, guys. http://pastehtml.com/view/b57sj5taz.rtxt

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

I have always heard that milk neutralizes capsaicin ( puts the pep in pepper) better than water, I imagine antacid is better than nothing but I don't believe that capsaicin is an acid, rather it is an oil - but then I never was as much of a chemist as i wanted to be (grin).

[-] 2 points by AnonyMissUSA (3) 3 years ago

Watch and listen on the last video at 6:13 when the cop turns and says "Is he f***ing stupid though?" The other cop responded with "I don't know."

PEACEFUL PROTESTORS NOT HARMING ANYBODY. THE POLICE WERE UNPROVOKED AND HAD NO RIGHT TO SPRAY THOSE WOMEN, PULL THE OTHER WOMANS HAIR AND DRAG HER, AND TO START IT ALL OFF PUSH THE GUY WALKING AWAY AND PULL HIM BY HIS SHIRT TO THE GROUND. ALL IN THE MEANTIME HIS HANDS WERE IN THE AIR AND EVERYONE WAS CO-OPERATING WITH THE POLICE.

[-] 2 points by Alex (79) from Rhoon, ZH 3 years ago

It's time cops start to think and realize that they are also human beings just like everybody else, that they have no right to abuse anyone because a piece of paper says so, or someone else orders so.

It's time to hold them accountable personally for their actions, because they themselves solely are responsible for them. They may hide behind a piece of paper or a job-description, but that is not an excuse. This man needs to be shamed and shunned, he should be treated as a pariah. It's only then they may start to think, and act more respectful towards other human beings.

And yeah almost forgot; direct message to Anthony Bologna: You are an asshole.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

asshole: the rectum including the anus. a legitimate part of the human physiology that performs a vital function that no other part of the body could, or would. Hemorrhoid: a physical defect, a bloody pain in the ass with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Aka Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna.

[-] 2 points by Sopwith (4) from Los Angeles, CA 3 years ago

Just remember, kids, plastic cuffs are not escape proof. http://www.ehow.com/how_8590608_escape-plastic-cuffs.html

[-] 2 points by Bee (9) 3 years ago

A really good piece indicting police abuse and showing the above videos on MSNBC tonight: http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/26/7978720-rewrite-police-vs-protesters

[-] 2 points by tigrlily61 (2) from Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, QC 3 years ago

Sounds like it's time for a rousing chorus of Weird Al's "My Bologna."

[-] 2 points by Nomad (2) 3 years ago

I'm Iranian and as an Iranian I'm used to seeing people getting beaten up by the authorities but I have got to say I was disgusted and surprised to see these videos. I wonder how the fuck US is goin to justify their actions, what happened to freedom of speech and peaceful rioting. And I also wanted to tell those cops that they are fuckin retarded and they simply need hours of fuckin therapy the little peanut inside their head that they call brain, these are your people, your own kind, how can you be so careless and brutal to your own people? I guess this must be exciting for them because now they feel "important" and in power. Where is Obama to release a fuckin statement? It seems like Obama cares about Libya, Iran and Iraq more than his own country. I also wanted to congrats you all on what you have achieved so far, the fact that they are using force to stop you guys shows that they are scared.

[-] 2 points by yzarc314 (2) from Lynden, ON 3 years ago

I'm glad you found my video ("Simultaneous perspectives") helpful. I have a correction: Jeanne Mansfield works at Boston Review, not the Boston Herald.

[-] 2 points by ForMadison (2) from Yosemite National Park, CA 3 years ago

Well done on identifying Antony Bologna! Anonymity supports tyranny; if every police officer knows he will be held personally accountable for his actions, the peace of the demonstrations can be kept on both sides. May I suggest you make up posters of Antony Bologna, and post them everywhere, until your demands for his resignation, and his arrest, are met. If every police officer sees these posted, he will know that he, too, is being watched.

[-] 2 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

To all law enforcement personnel monitoring this website, and to all military and first responders reading this post: Please visit www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 2 points by brooklyn4life (18) 3 years ago

and the most important story in NYC today is the auction of Rat Island?

http://i53.tinypic.com/s66igy.png

Also note how most Popular story is the only one about #OccupyWallSt - NYT's only, belittling article about OWS

NYTimes - fire your pundits and hire some reporters.

[-] 2 points by RedDread (57) from Bethel, CT 3 years ago

I left a message for Mike imploring him to do something about this fascist officer and also told him he should come down and speak to us and show us his support!

[-] 2 points by Astrodite (2) 3 years ago

Hello all! I want to stop by and donate food for all the great people standing up! What would be the best way to do that?

[-] 2 points by nicholashh (8) from Hamburg, HH 3 years ago

Hi, thank you so much for your support!

Check http://nycga.cc/donate/ for donations.

[-] 2 points by JackieWD (3) from Mt Pleasant, MI 3 years ago

Okay, call Bloomberg's office and they gave me this phone number to lodge a complaint about the violence by the NYPD: 212-639-9675. I was put on hold forwever so went to their website @ nyc.gov and sent an email via the contact section. I hope this helps everyone send their outrage to the Mayor of NYC.

nyc.gov

[-] 4 points by Melissa (4) 3 years ago

Direct line to NYPD Office of Community Affairs, (212)-334-0640. Nice guy who listenend and took notes.LOL. Very slick! He asks you why you would take the time to file a complaint from outside the area and then listens patiently hoping you will run out of steam, I assume. The best person to complain to:Hon. Joseph Esposito Email: PC.office@NYPD.org or for a long letter: Hon. Joseph Esposito, 1 Police Plaza, NY, NY, 10038.
I told him that the Constutution still covers WallSt. and the banksters and reminded him that the police have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution not the Corporations. Thank you Occupiersfor what you are doing. I hope to join you when my farm harvest is in! All my love STAY^ STRONG Melissa

[-] 1 points by samuelcan (1) 3 years ago

Hey Mellissa,

Will you be bringing food to the occupiers? I am trying to get farmers to donate food.

[-] 1 points by thebroadcast (3) 3 years ago

coming from Egypt it's crazy to see this stuff happening in the U.S.!!

plz check out this online documentary series on what's happening around the world today..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-X02B7_9Eo

[-] 1 points by rasputin (6) 3 years ago

dirtbags hippies

[-] 1 points by rasputin (6) 3 years ago

you are all scumbag losers

[-] 1 points by hat (2) 3 years ago

Here is what our demands should be: 1. we want a constitutional amendment adding nature citizen to the constitution when it come to citizens rights. Corporate citizens are not people. 2. we want the Supreme court to overrule themselves on the citizens united case 3. we want a state and federal law stating that corporations must have a duty to the citizens of the state and the united states to run their business in the best interest of the state and the United states and the citizens of the state and the united stated and not just a fiduciary duty to their stock holders. 4. we want Criminal laws, regulations and rules on wall street and business to force them to comply with their duty to conduct business in the best interest of United States citizens. 5. We want public funding of election.

These 5 demands will stop the rich and corporations from controlling our election process. They will also stop unrestricted capitalism. Unrestricted capitalism is just as bad as socialism or communism

[-] 1 points by hat (2) 3 years ago

Here is what our demands should be: 1. we want a constitutional amendment adding nature citizen to the constitution when it come to citizens rights. Corporate citizens are not people. 2. we want the Supreme court to overrule themselves on the citizens united case 3. we want a state and federal law stating that corporations must have a duty to the citizens of the state and the united states to run their business in the best interest of the state and the United states and the citizens of the state and the united stated and not just a fiduciary duty to their stock holders. 4. we want Criminal laws, regulations and rules on wall street and business to force them to comply with their duty to conduct business in the best interest of United States citizens. 5. We want public funding of election.

These 5 demands will stop the rich and corporations from controlling our election process. They will also stop unrestricted capitalism. Unrestricted capitalism is just as bad as socialism or communism

[-] 1 points by shastagirl (1) 3 years ago

Democracy Now reported this morning that ALL the NYPD wants to do is take away 10 days vacation from Bologna. He committed a criminal act - no really four criminal acts, and those are the ones we now about. He should go to prison. PROTEST this unequal treatment. Anyone else would get substantial prison time for criminal assault.

[-] 1 points by Danimal (9) from Leeuwarden, FR 3 years ago

A nice page on the police brutality, focussing not on escalating the violence, but also recognizing the police as part of the 99% (even if they are under pressure not to identify themselves as such. http://www.occupy-wallstreet.com/police-brutality/ Check it out and post more info if you have it!

[-] 1 points by jimpinto (1) 3 years ago

My poem, "Occupy Wall Street" is posted at: http://jimpinto.com/writings/occupywallstreet.html This was written on October 15, 2011 while the "Occupy Wall Street" movement was just about a month old, and still growing. Many are confused with the message. This poem may help to explain. I'll appreciate your comments and suggestions as I prepare a YouTube video

[-] 1 points by Bob (1) 3 years ago

Thank you for posting these videos. I hope they remain visible and soon are used as evidence to prosecute the officers who wrecklessly abused their authority when they assaulted those peaceful people.

[-] 1 points by robertdeaneagle (2) 3 years ago

I wonder how it feels to disgrace the finest police force in the world? "F" Bologna and all the rest of his minions! Solidarity from Girard, KS! Wish I was there!

[-] 1 points by robertdeaneagle (2) 3 years ago

I wonder how it feels to disgrace the finest police force in the world? "F" Bologna and all the rest of his minions! Solidarity from Girard, KS! Wish I was there!

[-] 1 points by chuck (6) 3 years ago

you know, they haven't killed anyone yet, but i thought that the USA would be better than this at tolerating protests http://www.ioccupy.org

[-] 1 points by WorkingClassAntiHero (352) from Manchester, NH 3 years ago

No offense, but I was told that by a bartender in SoHo a little over a week ago. Most of lower manhattan knew that was Bologna. It was sort of the talk of the town in some circles.

[-] 1 points by WorkingClassAntiHero (352) from Manchester, NH 3 years ago

Shit, nevermind. Missed the date of the OP. My mistake.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

I feel for everyone involved - even Tony Baloney - I feel he deserves a judicial ass kicking. For one thing I am amazed that so many people are so upset, and justly so, and yet they resist mobbing the cops, taking their guns and starting a shooting war. My worst fear is that before this is over Kent State will seem like a misdemeanor by comparison. They should be using milk to wash the capacin out of the eyes, water can make it worse. People, everyone in this demonstration, control the anger. Control the invective, control the urges to make a party out of this. You should be calm, assertive, stick to your rights, be sober and respectful. These cops for the most part are probably scared - and with good reason - please remember that most of them probably have mortgages too, probably owned by these same banks. Do not go to the violent dark side of this, all will suffer and unforgivable things will be done, worse than now. Remember that in large part, the last Bush congress unanimously voted to repeal the illegality of 'bucket shops' and kicked all this off. Demand an audit of the finances of all congress persons of that congress - find out who made a 'killing' and started all this. These cops did not do this to you - although Tony Baloney needs some time in a cellblock to meditate on his actions, ditto for any other criminals guilty of unprovoked assaults on citizens. OCCUPY CONGRESS! OCCUPY CONGRESS! OCCUPY CONGRESS! Do it legally, do it soberly, do it right.

[-] 1 points by markarecio (26) 3 years ago

American Revolution Has Taken Place for Democracy. Here's a song from oweaick terminator theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE9yTYrI7jE&NR=1

[-] 1 points by APoeticTurtle (1) 3 years ago

If EVERY protester arrested or ticketed takes their case to court the system will get overloaded. Imagine if cops had to show up for court for EVERY person ticketed. . . Please pass this message on

[-] 1 points by markarecio (26) 3 years ago

Its costing the organization financially and timely, which is becoming a huge burden to them. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

American Revolution Has Taken Place for Democracy. Here's a song from oweaick terminator theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE9yTYrI7jE&NR=1

[-] 1 points by mcc (1) 3 years ago

Can one of the people this thug pepper sprayed please press charges against him? We do not need this kind of officer on our streets.

[-] 1 points by johnh2011 (2) 3 years ago

The OWS movement needs to get specific with a set of initiatives for the ( Obama ) government to implement. In brief, top of the list should be a re-enactment of the Glass-Stiegal Act and a Financial Transactions Tax ( FTT ). The FTT should be strongly implemented at national levels and applied equally internationally. An independent international Financial Regulator should be created to aggregate and administer the FTT. In addition to the tax revenue, the information on the activities / trades of the industry will provide the regulator with data to detect the behaviours which caused, and will cause the next meltdown. Keep up the protests!!! but get the initiatives up there.

[-] 1 points by gwok (1) 3 years ago

i refuse to call bologna an officer. i don't want to believe hard working people's taxes go to this trash. he is a failed human being, and a immature small brained bully, hurting defenseless people like a child pulling the wings off a fly. personally i think we should corner him, take his weapons away and mace him, and see how he likes it. i hope he loses his job, because animals should not be payed for attacking innocent people.

[-] 1 points by Bebe1391 (4) 3 years ago

It is time to name individuals that should be exposesd for the financial disaster and discrepancy between the 1% of rich and the rest of us. Blankfein,(Goldman Sachs) Dimon, (J.P.Morgan), Charles Holliday (Bank of America). Why has the governmant oversight agencies not brought an aaction aginst these people to recover some of the wealth that they have stolen from the people. Some of the shareholders are as much to blame for their complacency Other individauls have benefited under resulting from their memebrship to the "inner circle"

How about a demonstration at 15 Central Park West where many of these CEO's and investors live in unadulterated wealth.

[-] 1 points by Bebe1391 (4) 3 years ago

It is time to name individuals that should be exposesd for the financial disaster and discrepancy between the 1% of rich and the rest of us. Blankfein,(Goldman Sachs) Dimon, (J.P.Morgan), Charles Holliday (Bank of America). Why has the governmant oversight agencies not brought an aaction aginst these people to recover some of the wealth that they have stolen from the people. Some of the shareholders are as much to blame for their complacency Other individauls have benefited under resulting from their memebrship to the "inner circle"

How about a demonstration at 15 Central Park West where many of these CEO's and investors live in unadulterated wealth.

[-] 1 points by jamkkc (2) 3 years ago

I very pleased that this is happening! If we could just focus and send a few specific messages. I'd hate that this was all for not. Bottom line is the 99% of us need to keep voting OUT term after term these politicians that condone these behaviors of the rich and corporations! For those that "like" their guy because he/she does the one thing for "US" your wrong, your being played.If 60% approval at least isn't achieved for your state/district, then it was just for a specific group.

VOTE THEM ALL OUT! then we can start on the GREEDY. It starts with legislation.

[-] 1 points by jamkkc (2) 3 years ago

I very pleased that this is happening! If we could just focus and send a few specific messages. I'd hate that this was all for not. Bottom line is the 99% of us need to keep voting OUT term after term these politicians that condone these behaviors of the rich and corporations! For those that "like" their guy because he/she does the one thing for "US" your wrong, your being played.If 60% approval at least isn't achieved for your state/district, then it was just for a specific group.

VOTE THEM ALL OUT! then we can start on the GREEDY. It starts with legislation.

[-] 1 points by tedgreen6 (2) 3 years ago

A little mace and a couple of punches. They used to break our heads. I hope and pray it doesn't go that far.

I support everything about Occupy Wall Street. But I wish you would vote not to allow the U.S. flag to be flown upside down. It turns off people who would otherwise find common ground with the protest.

Good luck. I'll see you downtown.

[-] 1 points by tedgreen6 (2) 3 years ago

A little mace and a couple of punches. They used to break our heads. I hope and pray it doesn't go that far.

I support everything about Occupy Wall Street. But I wish you would vote not to allow the U.S. flag to be flown upside down. It turns off people who would otherwise find common ground with the protest.

Good luck. I'll see you downtown.

[-] 1 points by owsitsforthepeople (4) 3 years ago

OWS should get some pepper spray of its own at this point.

[-] 1 points by Lawful (3) 3 years ago
  1. ERROR: Pepper Spray and not Mace was used. 2. I'm no cop but it looks like the protesters were asked to back up and they moved forward, harassing people who were going to work- protesters broke the law by disobeying lawful orders and being unruly. Sorry but we all must follow the law. Just because you are protesting doesn't give you the right to disobey the law.
[-] 1 points by Ronnyjoejimbob (6) from Merritt, BC 3 years ago

Now is the time to find the homes of the elite Wall Street echelons and let them know we mean business. Start off with Larry Silverstein.

[-] 1 points by Ronnyjoejimbob (6) from Merritt, BC 3 years ago

Now is the time to find the homes of the elite Wall Street echelons and let them know we mean business. Start off with Larry Silverstein.

[-] 1 points by CaliforniaJoe (2) 3 years ago

The cop will not face charges. He will not be indicted, convicted, or jailed. The crowd was starting to scuffle with the police, so they kettled them. Those that resisted the kettling and got in the officers' faces were sprayed.

You guys are a very soft lot. We're not talking rubber bullets, tazers, billy clubs, or even tackling. They were sprayed, and started screaming like they were in the middle of a napalm attack. They knew the cameras were rolling, and that's what these protesters are hoping for: To paint the NYPD in a bad light while the camera light is on. Even if they have to overdramatize it.

If anything, the officers are showing a great deal of restraint, because they're aware that you're looking for that one video to give them a bad reputation and to further your own directionless hipster cause.

See, when you lead a "rebellion" in most places, pepper spray isn't even on the list. In other countries, protesters are just plain shot. You spoiled bunch are basically untouchable here in this country. Worst thing that may happen is you spend a few hours in jail. Plenty of dead rebels pray they had that option.

Man up and either deal with some habanero fumes, or don't get in an officer's face. End of story.

[-] 1 points by CaliforniaJoe (2) 3 years ago

The cop will not face charges. He will not be indicted, convicted, or jailed. The crowd was starting to scuffle with the police, so they kettled them. Those that resisted the kettling and got in the officers' faces were sprayed.

You guys are a very soft lot. We're not talking rubber bullets, tazers, billy clubs, or even tackling. They were sprayed, and started screaming like they were in the middle of a napalm attack. They knew the cameras were rolling, and that's what these protesters are hoping for: To paint the NYPD in a bad light while the camera light is on. Even if they have to overdramatize it.

If anything, the officers are showing a great deal of restraint, because they're aware that you're looking for that one video to give them a bad reputation and to further your own directionless hipster cause.

See, when you lead a "rebellion" in most places, pepper spray isn't even on the list. In other countries, protesters are just plain shot. You spoiled bunch are basically untouchable here in this country. Worst thing that may happen is you spend a few hours in jail. Plenty of dead rebels pray they had that option.

Man up and either deal with some habanero fumes, or don't get in an officer's face. End of story.

[-] 1 points by further3000 (2) 3 years ago

awesome video from Jon Stewart about Tony Bologna's Pepper spray incident. The incident was horrendous, but often satire gets more attention than straight up commentary and stewart is a master of satire: http://gawker.com/5845321/jon-stewart-takes-on-occupy-wall-streets-pepper+spraying-cop

[-] 1 points by redrage24 (1) 3 years ago
[-] 1 points by ScottStormhammer (5) from Pasco, WA 3 years ago

Americans are being taught that we have to take advantage of all opportunities to succeed, especially at the expense of our fellow citizens.

Our extreme version of capitalism has taught us this lesson, through having corporations and CEO’s and other very advantaged people becoming richer and richer while a much larger percent of people become knocked down into poverty.

There are not even enough MINIMUM WAGE jobs for everyone.

There is not enough wealth to go around, simply because the rich are allowed to maintain an inexcusable percent of the resources in the United States of America.

This lesson will eventually cause extreme legal actions, and possibly even crime if legal actions prove ineffective, which will be aimed at promoting a glimmer of hope to the vast majority of United States citizens by balancing money and opportunities fairly amongst all Americans.

I am the opposite of a proponent for disadvantaged people going crazy to the extent that crime and violence will become directed toward the rich who do not frankly give a damn about their fellow citizens, but I do think that this is a very likely outcome if money and opportunity do not become much more balanced than they are.

We need a fast changes. I would place huge bets (if I could afford them) that our country will massively weaken if the changes are not massive and widespread toward making sure we all have equal and fair opportunities.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

It is GOOD to be king - until your oppression and brutality lead you to the guillotine. then, it is good to be somebody else somewhere else... still we vote with our dollars and we keep making bad kings... or at the very least failing to make them sign the Magna Carta.

[-] 1 points by MarieM (8) 3 years ago

You want to know why he peppered sprayed the women? Because Anthony Bologna is probably (and I believe most definitely) a Republican or a Tea Partyer. Our common sense views go against his political party. That's the real reason why he abused his power!

[-] 1 points by scrib132x (1) 3 years ago

Tony Baloney should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, his punishment should be more severe than what a non-uniformed citizen would have received for committing the same crime since as a law enforcement "professional" he is required to know better.

[-] 1 points by capitalism (-9) 3 years ago

The officers had every right to pepper spray those individuals. They were holding up the police line and order must be maintained, that is NYPD's job.

[-] 1 points by a0i (1) 3 years ago

The majority of the post was right on, but shame on the press team for this:

"Today we received unconfirmed reports that over one hundred blue collar police refused to come into work in solidarity with our movement."

If police decide to side with us, show it as fact. Don't telegraph or derail the power and impact of that before it happens by crying wolf.

The minute the mainstream media latches onto it an portrays it as "a fraud rumor perpetrated by the unscrupulous protest organizers to artificially generate sympathy and make headlines" it will be hugely damaging to our credibility, and put forces in motion to STOP officers from coming out to join.

Don't be stupid.

[-] 1 points by DonQuixot (231) 3 years ago

Corraling peaceful demostrators like cattle and attacking hem with pepper spray. Nowhere in Europe does this happen. When this happens in a country the US does not like it is a crime against people. But in the US it is no rime. This is fascism with a lot of democratic make-up and disguise. No democracy but bank-ocracy and fake-ocracy. Shame on the Police Chief, shame on their boss Mayor Bloomberg, shame on his boss Obama and shame on his boss Wall Street and shame on the US.

[-] 1 points by learnthecause (1) 3 years ago

Releasing his information was low and dirty. So how peaceful are you. I am with the fight against wall street greed. But there are things you need to reconsider instead of being so proud of yourself. You are just as bad as wall street.

I will not say officer Bologna was wrong nor right. Every protester needs to know what they should except, no matter woman or man. Cuz women can be just as bad as any guy. Arent you fighting for equality, then placing they are innocent women is low. And I am a woman, so seeing that I see you (the org) trying play a role that makes you just as dirty.

From a family who went out and protect, went to jail from the protest for equality and justice, please only thing I see here is confusion and need real order and goals.

Greed in USA and wall street has went out of control and hurting more Proud Americans, then Americans even understand. Try not to be so low, and make a stance without being lo.

These workers of the NYPD need sensitive classes but you probably do not understand one of their job stresses they deal with constantly. And the private life needs to stay out of great cause but not great organization of protesting.

[-] 1 points by phil2011 (3) 3 years ago

I'll start off by saying I am undecided on whether or not I support OccupyWallStreet, but my opinion is this:

Putting so much emphasis on police brutality is the worst thing you can do. You are completely detracting from your original message. Referring to a police officer as "white collar" is pretty ridiculous, last time I checked being a police officer is pretty blue collar and none of them make near enough money to be part of the "1%". They are part of the 99% just like you and are only doing their to support their family. Focus on your original message and not police brutality or you will alienate public support.

[-] 1 points by nsr (1) 3 years ago

Yelling and screaming like children isn't what comes to mind when I think of the word peaceful.

[-] 1 points by wewantfreedom (1) 3 years ago

Why do the police attack? http://anokchan.com/b/src/13170903338.jpg

[-] 1 points by AlBlack (0) 3 years ago

After watching the first couple of videos I was immediately shocked and bewildered as to why the Officer used pepper spray on those people.

However, after watching the remaining videos (several times) and seeing all the angles, and the fuller picture of what was going on around the scene, his actions make perfect sense. The situation was escalating rapidly and his actions stopped that escallation, had he not escallation was likely to continue to an uncontorllable end. These were not all peaceful protesters, the videos taken by the participants themselves show that.

[-] 1 points by TonyBoloney (3) 3 years ago

Why don't you send a delegation over to Kellys' home? Ray Kelly lives at 375 South End Ave, Gateway Plaza, Battery Park City. It's just a short walk across the Liberty street walkway over the Westside highway. I forgot the apartment #, but you can tell the doorman, you're here to see "popeye the bongo man", tell him Tony Boloney sent you.

[-] 1 points by TonyBoloney (3) 3 years ago

Why don't you send a delegation over to Kellys' home? Ray Kelly lives at 375 South End Ave, Gateway Plaza, Battery Park City. It's just a short walk across the Liberty street walkway over the Westside highway. I forgot the apartment #, but you can tell the doorman, you're here to see "popeye the bongo man", tell him Tony Boloney sent you.

[-] 1 points by don (6) 3 years ago

We need to have protest in every city at the same hour to show we are united in this fight all over the country.

[-] 1 points by mstressr (13) 3 years ago

Has Bologna been brought to justice?

[-] 1 points by gomas (1) 3 years ago

dirty nazi coward pigs who deserve no mercy. ahead, occupiers!

[-] 1 points by walker (20) from Starkville, MS 3 years ago

mase is counter acted with baby shampoo just rinse your face and the burn will go away in a matter of seconds. take away their power and they are helpless

[-] 1 points by AnonyMissUSA (3) 3 years ago

Watch and listen on the last video at 6:13 when the cop turns and says "Is he f***ing stupid though?" The other cop responded with "I don't know."

PEACEFUL PROTESTORS NOT HARMING ANYBODY. THE POLICE WERE UNPROVOKED AND HAD NO RIGHT TO SPRAY THOSE WOMEN, PULL THE OTHER WOMANS HAIR AND DRAG HER, AND TO START IT ALL OFF PUSH THE GUY WALKING AWAY AND PULL HIM BY HIS SHIRT TO THE GROUND. ALL IN THE MEANTIME HIS HANDS WERE IN THE AIR AND EVERYONE WAS CO-OPERATING WITH THE POLICE.

[-] 1 points by wakawaka (3) 3 years ago

Officer Salami and detective Provolone Make a delicious sandwich with Bologna.

[-] 1 points by AnAlaskan (2) from Healy, AK 3 years ago

While I don't think Officer Bologna's macing make you weaker, his actions DID derail the message and the conversation of Occupy Wall Street. Looking at your blog, your're very focused on fighting the police brutality directed at you, and farther away from any sort of actionable message about our financial and political systems. Our systems are broken, we knew that. What should we demand to fix it? Have you given up on the ONE DEMAND? Should I stop looking for one?

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

Friend, I do get your point - but our country, our WORLD is in deep stinky stuff all over, and ONE demand is not going to be enough unless the ONE demand is to FIX ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE CORRUPTED AND MALIGNANT and are not supposed to be!!! Fix Congress, fix the Supreme court, buy back the US Treasury from the Fed Reserve CORPORATION, print money backed by something a little more substantial than our 'trust in God', restore peoples faith in the police as fair and impartial lifeguards of our daily lives, prosecute those who start wars (home invasions on a national level) based on lies and wishful thinking, bust cops for perjury like any other criminal perjurer, jail those guilty of assault and battery even if they wear badges, and many many many (OMG so friggin many!) other things. Return our country to rule of law, with justice for all. Prosecute those that take the pay, swear the oath of service, and betray that oath and the public trust. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

I think we need to make millionaires and billionaires pay their taxes without exception and eliminate tax loopholes and offshore cash shelters. Prosecute! Prosecute! Oh, and we have to have a real three party system and make campaign finance reform work.

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

How about any corporation that ships it's 'works' overseas is not allowed to claim any privileges or protections of an AMERICAN corporation simply because they have a phone, a desk and a Delaware corporation? I think that would be an EXCELLENT place to start - if they have an AMERICAN CORPORATION or company, it HAS TO BE IN AMERICA!!!

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

How can you read these blogs and ask if the protesters have given up on the ONE DEMAND? Really, that's what you're getting out of it? And fighting the police brutality is something that NEEDS to be done. It's all part of the BIG MACHINE... the very one the 99% is fighting against.

[-] 1 points by AnAlaskan (2) from Healy, AK 3 years ago

While I don't think Officer Bologna's macing make you weaker, his actions DID derail the message and the conversation of Occupy Wall Street. Looking at your blog, your're very focused on fighting the police brutality directed at you, and farther away from any sort of actionable message about our financial and political systems. Our systems are broken, we knew that. What should we demand to fix it? Have you given up on the ONE DEMAND? Should I stop looking for one?

[-] 1 points by streamfortyseven (15) 3 years ago

OK, complaining to the police might make you feel better, but chances are really good that nothing will be done and you'll waste your time, at best, and at worst, you'll give the bad guys your case so they can begin preparing a defense should you file a civil rights lawsuit against the City of New York. This latter action is what I think you should do: you should file a lawsuit under 42 United States Code section 1983, Deprivation of Civil Rights Under Color of Law. You'll need a lawyer to do this, and it's highly preferable to get one who practices in Lower Manhattan, where the attorney will know the judges and counsel for the City of New York. You can find attorneys who specialize in Police Brutality/Excessive Force/False arrest cases, just do a google search on "police brutality attorney New York City" and there should be quite a few listings come up. Most of them do free case evaluations and will tell you your chances of success, and they'll take the case on a contingent fee basis, which means their fees come out of the amount awarded for damages. OK, so find an attorney you're comfortable with.

Before you go into his or her office, do the following - right now or as soon as possible - and right now is highly preferable:

  1. Find videotapes of what happened when you were brutalized or arrested.

  2. Find people in those videotapes or who actually saw you being assaulted by the police; get their names , addresses, phone numbers and emails. Have them write out a statement of what happened at what time and what they saw. Have these reports signed by the people making them.

  3. Write down yourself a timeline of what happened from an hour before you came into contact with the police in any way, to the time you were let out of jail, if applicable. Write down a narrative of what happened, what you saw and heard, what injuries you had, which were inflicted by the NYPD.

  4. Take pictures of any injuries, and go to the hospital and get seen in the ER, and get the name of the doctor or nurse who examined you. Keep track of any money charges to you for treatment, and the medical records from the visit.

  5. Finally, if you have nightmares or insomnia or you're suffering from depression or anything else has changed, keep a diary giving dates and times of these events, and any treatment you get - and get docs names and addresses and the diagnosis (like maybe PTSD or something)

Do all this, and make two copies of everything, and store the original and a copy in safe places, and go talk to the attorney with the evidence you have amassed. Make sure it's an attorney who specializes in this kind of case and that he or she practices before the judge who will hear the case, on a regular basis.

Don't waste your time with NYPD Internal Affairs, they're just there to waste your time and demoralize you

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

In sum, if you let the foxes manage the hen house, the flock will continue to shrink even while the books continue to balance perfectly. Still, file reports with the police as well - I have heard a saying that in any court case there is no such thing as too much documentation...

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

The video of the brutality is OUT THERE.

[-] 1 points by jjjefffreee (3) 3 years ago

please do not wish the violence of arrest and jail upon POLICE. they are mindless tools of much greater enemy. cops are the LITTLE FISH!!! i keep wishing there would be no jail -- which is, to me, a construct of the false monetary and morality laws we fight against. what would i do with members of the FED then? without their imaginary wealth, there assets and investments would contain no monetary value - a severe natural consequence for attempting to become gods... i do not wish for anyone to be taxed or jailed or taxed for jails. please try not to pay too much attention to arrests and stay the course. do what you can to get them OUT of jail, but realize that under this dichotemy you must be willing to be arrested. it is sad, but do not let them see you cry. stop chanting and tantilizing at the cops when they attempt to intervene. they are not the main issue and likely it just makes them nervous and more irrational. COPS ARE WORKERS TOO! THEY DID NOT MAKE THE RULES!

Direct your attention back to Occupying Wall Street!

DEMAND: TRANSITION TO A RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY NOW!

[-] 1 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

I agree that heckling the police will not get you far. Just because there are crooked cops doesn't mean they all are, especially if a hundred officers didn't work today, in support of the movement. It could get worse. Much worse. But the goal at hand can't be redirected because of this.

[-] 1 points by bdk4 (6) 3 years ago

I had downloaded the original post which had everything but the officer's departure. I opened it with video editor and noticed the officer using pepper spray. I also noticed there was a commotion going on in the northwest corner of the scene just prior to the incident and that the two females were concentrated on taking pictures of whatever was going on. I wondered if these two were included in the arrests, and if so were their camera's and/or film confiscated.

[-] 1 points by bulldog831 (62) 3 years ago

To all law enforcement personnel monitoring this website, and to all military and first responders reading this post: Please visit www.oathkeepers.org

[-] 1 points by Tree201 (2) 3 years ago

What this officer did is infuriating. Hang in there guys, people are paying attention!

[-] 1 points by yeastydeath (1) 3 years ago

I called the number for mayor bloomberg, and was directed to the NYC civilian complaint review board, but was unable to get through to the hotline. I was also given this website: https://www.nyc.gov/html/ccrb/html/complaint.html and I believe it would be helpful if further information was posted in order to properly fill out the form.

[-] 1 points by brooklyn (4) 3 years ago

No surprise. Tony Baloney has been doing this since at least the 2003 antiwar demonstrations.

[-] 1 points by joogle (55) 3 years ago

One of the 8th USA Parliament's planks is to elect all police officers, so they will all have to vie for their jobs in free and open elections.

http://usparliament.org/v-h-dd.php

Proposed plank #71= ___ All police officers shall be elected, and will have to vie for their jobs in each and every county under the Sainte-Lague Parliament Seat distribution system.

[-] 1 points by BNB (89) 3 years ago

Before reading this I saw a video of Bologna and filed a complaint with the NYPD. may not help, but what the heck

Send a message to Joan Thompson Executive Director Civilian Complaint Review Board

http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailccrb.html

[-] 1 points by liberallamppost (4) 3 years ago

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/26/sign-petition-to-stop-obscene-nypd-brutality-stand-with-occupywallst-protestors/

Don’t let the NYPD squash this People’s movement with violence. After all, the protestors are rebelling, in part, to protect against cuts to social programs, like the POLICE FORCE.

Stand with the protestors. Sign the petition via the link below. Each time someone signs, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly and 5 other top members of the NYC staff receive a copy of this letter.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/26/sign-petition-to-stop-obscene-nypd-brutality-stand-with-occupywallst-protestors/

[-] 1 points by jbodden6977 (28) from Niland, CA 3 years ago

THE PROTESTERS ARE DEMONSTRATING, AS PROTECTED FREE SPEECH PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA! We are not 'rebelling' - we are CAMPAIGNING against the corruption of the 'corporations are persons' bullshit... and lots of other BS related frauds and abuses. The only authority we are rebelling against is the unlawful authority and abuses acted out under color of authority. PS the format you describe above is practically a call to enact a denial of services assault on the computers and communications involved. You think that is going to show the world what good guys we are, how reasonable our indignation is, and how responsibly we are dealing with it? I don't think so.

[-] 1 points by ferncapella (10) from Milwaukie, OR 3 years ago

Thank you and we in Portland also know that we will be facing the same brutality, we have seen it before here even for smaller actions. Please don't give up, stay strong, the whole world is watching, we know you are suffering, you are our heroes & heroines and what you are doing IS MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE and is MAKING HISTORY. We love you!!!

[-] 1 points by deacy (8) 3 years ago

Thank you. Thank you for taking up this cause. You represent the vast majority of the people - not only in the US but all over the world who have been exploited by vested interests and have taken away all the gains that humanity has made over the last couple of hundred years. For each one of you in Liberty Square there are ateast 1000 who would like to be there but cannot make it. But we will contribute in other ways - spreading your message, creating awareness of the issues and making donations. Keep up the good fight to take back democracy.

[-] 0 points by BrightSky (0) 3 years ago

We should forgive him. This is a movement of mercy and compassion. It is the most powerful action we can take. He is also the 99%

[-] 0 points by phil2011 (3) 3 years ago

I'll start off by saying I am undecided on whether or not I support OccupyWallStreet, but my opinion is this:

Putting so much emphasis on police brutality is the worst thing you can do. You are completely detracting from your original message. Referring to a police officer as "white collar" is pretty ridiculous, last time I checked being a police officer is pretty blue collar and none of them make near enough money to be part of the "1%". They are part of the 99% just like you and are only doing their to support their family. Focus on your original message and not police brutality or you will alienate public support.

[-] 0 points by student (0) 3 years ago

There are 10+ protestors to every officer. Yelling, chanting, pushing, in one video a protestor ran towards them to push through, maybe. But those men/women don't see that way. They want to get home to their families and by charging towards them in such an angry way, they feel threatened and believe "I should get this person down, before he gets me" The NYPD has NOTHING to do with the company, the just want to do the job assigned to them. Your non-violent protest isn't so non-violent because you're just being the annoying "I'm not touching you...." children. Do it the right way and you wouldn't have these problems. And if you do have problems, THEN you can say they're in the wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJWWOahDZdE&feature=related

Protestors attack police officers too!

[-] 0 points by student (0) 3 years ago

There are 10+ protestors to every officer. Yelling, chanting, pushing, in one video a protestor ran towards them to push through, maybe. But those men/women don't see that way. They want to get home to their families and by charging towards them in such an angry way, they feel threatened and believe "I should get this person down, before he gets me" The NYPD has NOTHING to do with the company, the just want to do the job assigned to them. Your non-violent protest isn't so non-violent because you're just being the annoying "I'm not touching you...." children. Do it the right way and you wouldn't have these problems. And if you do have problems, THEN you can say they're in the wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJWWOahDZdE&feature=related

Protestors attack police officers too!

[-] 0 points by wakawaka (3) 3 years ago

u are a bunch of pussies

[-] 0 points by wakawaka (3) 3 years ago

Is there anything wrong with pepper spraying cops if they do it to innocent people?

[-] 0 points by wakawaka (3) 3 years ago

I heard that Bologna picks his nose and eats it then fingers his asshole and licks it every day.

[-] 0 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Wow... your posts are so "insightful" and "helpful". If you have nothing better to say, go away.

[-] 0 points by wakawaka (3) 3 years ago

BTW, you live in Ann Arbor Mi , a shit hole if there ever was one. Why don't you mind your business over there in that scruffy little suburb dung heap

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

This is a public forum. If you have nothing intelligent to say, then shut up.

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[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Are you 13 years old, because you sound like it?

[-] 0 points by YouAreHipocrites (2) 3 years ago

You "protesters" are all HIPOCRITES! Iphones are from Apple (public company with stock traded on WALL ST), Macs are also from Apple, Android is from Google (public), HTC phones (HTC public), YouTube is owned by Google (public), servers used to host this site (Hewlett, Oracle/Sun, Dell, IBM all public), networks used to deliver data traffic (AT&T, Verizon, etc all public), CDNs to prioritize your precious videos (Akamai public). . .

My advice is to STOP USING TECHNOLOGY TO PROMOTE AND DELIVER INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CAUSE. You are helping public companies whose stocks trade on Wall St. Please stop using any products and services associated with any public company that trades on Wall St. Instead make your own pencils by growing trees, make your own lead, and create your own ads for distribution. Please remember to make your own paper as you don't want to use any products from International Paper (another public company). Also, don't use Kinkos to make copies as they are also part of a public company (Fed-ex).

[-] 2 points by phil (3) 3 years ago

fed-ex is a private company, champ. please get a clue:)

[-] 1 points by YouAreHipocrites (2) 3 years ago

You idiot. The symbol is FDX. Market cap is $22.1b.Shares outstanding is 317m, stock trades at $70.5 as of yesterday. And yet another sign of ignorance

[-] 1 points by phil (3) 3 years ago

you're right, my response was ignorant. i apologize. i still dont get your point. i am against corruption, not products or corporations or whatever else . get it? CORRUPTION is EVIL. you probably live in a ceterus paribus world tho where you just dismiss the idea of corruption cause it gets in the way of you making money right? take your eyes off your portfolio or the mirror for long enough to look around and see people are struggling everywhere. not just the poor.

[-] 1 points by YouAreHipocrites (2) 3 years ago

It trades on the NYSE. Please go to e-trade or schwab or your local broker to buy shares.

[-] 2 points by Sara1977 (32) from Toronto, ON 3 years ago

If you have trouble discerning ethical and unethical business practices, I suggest you educate yourself. If you find no fault with private/corporate money influencing the legislative process unduly, brush up on your general ethics. If you see no problem with Wall Street using pensions and mortgage fraud in their gambling schemes, dust off your morality gauge. No one is opposed to technology and advancement. It may surprise you that much basic and applied research that is the basis for private company developments are funded by taxpayers in public universities and research centers.

[-] -2 points by YouAreHipocrites (2) 3 years ago

IYou say you are not opposed to technology and advancement yet you use the products that are designed and made by public companies, not all of which are as ethical as you would like, but you still take advantage of them. I don't disagree that there are unethical companies but it's far from the majority. I see protesters saying companies need to pay tax. They do pay tax. And that's not a bad thing. But if you want to tax them to the point of being uncompetitive in a global world, then you are essentially signing their death certificate (along with all the jobs they provide). Ask why manufacturing jobs have moved overseas. It's because overseas companies can manufacture more cheaply. And it's not just lower labor costs, often these companies get govt subsidies on energy and utilities. What would you say if our govt were to provide subsidies to our companies? Lastly, public universities and research centers did provide critical advancements in technology, but so did public companies like AT&T, Xerox, Intel, etc.

[-] 3 points by Wonderkiller (3) 3 years ago

yes, and Marx had a day job. none of these things invalidate what these protesters are protesting, and they are using the only tools and the only power they have to hand. this does not make them hypocrites, it just accentuates the problems facing those who are forced to live with capitalism as a whole. can you think of any ethical companies making cheap, high quality electronics in mass quantities? no, because consumer ethics are a privilege of the rich. if people were not recording and tweeting this protest live, would we know about it from the news? also no. if we left this protest up to people who were rich enough to be able to afford to enjoy the privilege of owning only handmade, local objects, there would be no protest, because those people have too much to lose to risk it protesting.

besides, the system they are opposing and the inequities it engenders are what make it impossible to bring those corporations to task, and that protect them from the kind of accountability that would keep them ethical in the first place.

if you're suggesting that nobody should protest mass murder, rape culture, manufactured inequities, union busting, and the daily violence of poverty until they are completely free from the comorbid effects of capitalist patriarchy and white cisgender privilege, I don't know what tonsuggest to you except that maybe you should turn off your TV and your dependence on neat and tidy narratives, and join us in the real world, where it's ok for people to march for different reasons, as long as they all agree that it's unfair for 400-odd Americans to control more wealth than the poorest 50,000 combined, and that those paltry few should not be allowed to fix the system so that the poor just keep getting poorer.

people are literally dying of this, now, and all you can do is cower behind a keyboard and whine that a kid with an iPhone they got on credit in exchange for a 3-year term contract doesn't have pure enough motives to say "please stop killing us"? wake up and smell the smoke and pepper spray.

[-] 2 points by Sopwith (4) from Los Angeles, CA 3 years ago

That is one fine and righteous rant, which I have been quoting to my lady friend. Beautifully stated.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

So, are you saying that if a group of people protest women being raped, they are hypocrites if they have sex.... because what's the difference? No one is protesting consumerism. What they are protesting is ABUSE OF POWER AND CONTROL.... THE BIG MACHINE... corporations, Wall St. junkies, politicians, etc. abusing their powers and committing unethical acts, crimes, and taking away FROM THE PEOPLE.

And no, most big corporations ARE NOT ETHICAL. A lot of dirt can be dug up on most of them. Do a little research and find out what Whirlpool is involved in. And a lot of multi-billon dollar corporations DON'T pay taxes, and the oil companies (multi-billion dollar companies) get tax subsidies FROM US. Are you OK with that????

[-] 1 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

[-] 3 points by streamfortyseven (15) 3 years ago

time to post the 25 Rules:

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.

  1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
  2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.
  3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.
  4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
  5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
  6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.
  7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
  8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
  9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
  10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
  11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
  12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
  13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.
  14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.
  15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
  16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.
  17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
  18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
  19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
  20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
  21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.
  22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
  23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
  24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of theircharacter by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.
  25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen. . (from http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney_h.html)
[-] 1 points by incarceratejohnkasich4life (23) 3 years ago

Many of these are logical fallacies, but unfortunately America allows politicians to commit them every two minutes.

[-] 1 points by streamfortyseven (15) 3 years ago

listen to the interview with Chris Hedges, or read his article on Truthdig.

[-] 1 points by Washington (77) from Khon San, Chaiyaphum 3 years ago

Get lots of people carrying signs saying “Reinstate Glass-Steagall now!” “Pass H.R. 1489 now!” and watch what happens. I'm talking Wall Street's worst nightmare.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

FYI.... it's "hypocrite", not "hipocrite".

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 3 years ago

This is as idiotic as telling rebels in Libya they can't use Qaddafi's tanks and mortars against his regime.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

It's even BETTER to use a company's/organization's own tools against them to protest and dismantle their abuse of power, control, and greed, isn't it!!! How brilliant!! That's irony at its best!!

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Great example!!

[-] 0 points by warewolff (7) 3 years ago

Someone get a picture of this guy's face and put him on t-shirts protesting continued police aggression. See how he reacts when he becomes the poster boy for malevolence in the NYPD.

[-] 2 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

Better yet, make t-shirts of the wall street criminals faces :)

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

Great idea.

[-] 1 points by bdk4 (6) 3 years ago

yes!

[-] 0 points by EndTheIllusion (-1) 3 years ago

For over a week now, citizens have been gathering in Liberty Plaza in New York City to protest the greed and corruption of Wall Street and its corrosive effects on our nation's economy and well being.

This last week we have witnessed the spectacle of police guarding the bronze bull statue located on Wall Street. This sight is almost biblical in its significance, where the powers that be order their enforcers, the police, to guard the Golden Calf in front of the Temple of Greed where the elites worship their great gods: money, power, greed, envy, and lust.

Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs and one of the many high priests in this Temple of Greed, once stated that he “was doing God’s work”. It is likely that much of this selfless and charitable work takes place at this Temple of Greed. It is easy to envision the rituals of this Temple where with hands in the air, the high priests and their followers chant “more, more”, but “more”, is never enough.

Understanding the significance of this Temple and the Golden Calf makes it very easy to comprehend why the elites and their high priests ordered their enforcers to protect the Golden Calf. Should anything happen to it, the people outside the Temple would lose the grace and love of their gods resulting in an abyss of plague and famine. Those inside the Temple would be protected from this plague and famine because of their devotion to the gods, but those outside the Temple would be devastated.

As those outside the Temple we should be grateful to these High Priests for their concern and for recognizing the importance of guarding the Temple and Golden Calf. They demonstrated bravery and wisdom by calling out the enforcers restrain those who would challenge the Temple and its values. We applaud those among the police who responded with additional vigor and without question to protect the values of the Temple. While many of the enforcers practiced restraint, it is so comforting to know that there were those who showed their devotion and loyalty to the Temple and Golden Calf by ignoring the rights our nation’s founding fathers fought so hard to provide us. These enforcers who showed this initiative and loyalty to the High priests understand that when it comes to matters of the Temple, that civil liberties and other rights are irrelevant.

We should be grateful to those among the enforcers who prevented the protestors from assembling in front of the Temple.

We should be thankful for those among the enforcers who took away the protective tarps that sheltered the protestors from the rain.

We should admire those among the enforcers who were resourceful enough to dig up a law that is over 150 years old that forbids masks in public and to use this obscure law as a reason to arrest some of the protestors.

We should appreciate that there were those among the enforcers who had the courage and integrity to ignore the First Amendment rights of the independent press and prevented as many as they could from reporting on this protest.

We should be comforted that the corporate controlled media obediently follow the commandments of the high priests and largely suppressed this story. The audacity of these protestors thinking that they have the right to petition for jobs so they can support their families! The nerve of these protestors thinking they have the right to call for prosecution of the High Priests of the Temple!

These demonstrators who are so ignorantly challenging the morality of these High Priests need to be taught the lesson that it is unwise to challenge the Temple and its High Priests. Hundreds have been arrested, but more arrests are needed. A lesson on blind obedience to the overlords with bowed head needs to be reinforced. Again we are truly indebted to those among the enforcers who had the courage to educate them.

Only by blind devotion and faithful obedience to the commandments of the High Priests can we as people be brought out of the wilderness.

[-] 0 points by fortinet (0) 3 years ago

First, let me say I am sympathetic to this particular cause. That being said, can we please get a little bit real?

I've watched all the video of this incident and I'm not convinced either way as what happened was justified or not. What I am convinced of is that neither the video or eyewitness accounts likely tell the full story. Looking at the different video the big problem is the audio, or lack of there of. In one video, that actually capture the spraying incident, the screams are blood curdling. In another video that was right next to the incident but not facing it, you wouldn't even know anything happened because the microphones on these cell phones are so limited. Likewise, the second video captures the chants of "shame shame" that the first one does not.

I'm sorry but if you look at the video objectively and consider many of the variables that could exist that aren't apparent, this is NOT a clear cut incident. I'm leaning towards it being an overreaction on the officer's part but I just don't know.

Either way, in all reality this incident has brought a LOT more attention on these protests than existed prior. Take advantage of that publicity and work it to your advantage. These demands of jail time for the officer and the resignation of the commissioner are inflated rhetoric that only serves to fuel those who may not share your perspective to write you off as whack jobs. The exposing of the officer involved by Anonymous is inevitably going to subject this guy to a LOT of abuse ranging from pizza deliveries, harassing phone calls and even death threats (it happens to everyone who gets singled out in this manner) and I'm sorry, nothing in this video justifies the ongoing harrasment that he and his family, who had nothing to do with the incident, are going to be subjected to for some time to come.

How many involved in these protests agreed with the principles behind the Rally to Restore Sanity this time last year? It seems like many of us forgot what that was even about.

[-] 3 points by guyfawkestrader (6) 3 years ago

He pepper sprayed two women who were not making any threatening movements. They were watching the other woman in horror get dragged away. He then pepper sprayed the group in a completely indiscriminate fashion and then slinked off. The women were cordoned off and had nowhere to go. If they were pepper sprayed in conformance with the law for resisting arrest, it stands to reason that they were breaking the law. Yet they were not arrested. This begs the question, why? Surely they did not escape. Indeed, they are not hiding their identities to avoid prosecution.

All of this speaks great volumes. This was a cowardly assault by a despicable human being acting under color of state law. Your inability to understand this is representative of the overall problem that plagues our country; we have lost our collective backbone and do not even recognize the bill of rights being trampled upon, even when it is presented in HD 1080P!

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

I totally agree.

[-] 2 points by neo5apien (44) from Leesville, LA 3 years ago

It's wrong to physically threaten Officer Bologna, though he should be at the very least suspended pending the results of an investigation. We should be encouraging the rule of law here, not calling for people to harass him.

I would encourage Bologna to seek another line of work. I do not believe he is qualified for this one.

[-] 1 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

I agree the response to the police brutality seems rhetorical and overshadowing the movement is about. But... the police reaction to the protests was an example of how far this country has fallen and solidifies the need for change. The women that were pepper sprayed in the face were not being violent and it is clear to me they were attacked unprovoked. I don't think it is out of line to want retribution, but if they are receiving death threats than it is not from those who are abiding by the rules of this movement.

[-] 2 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 3 years ago

The police brutality focus is overshadowing the movement? The police brutality is part of WHAT IS BEING PROTESTED. I don't get comments like yours. Are citizens supposed to ignore police brutality? Wow.

[-] 2 points by agent139 (13) 3 years ago

Out of line to want retribution? As a case of vengeance, yes. But if you see three women being assaulted on the street, should it matter whether they people doing it are wearing uniforms or not?

[-] 2 points by Bexley (11) from Rochester, MN 3 years ago

No, it shouldn't. It's outrageous that someone can do that and get away with it. I hope he is held fully responsible for his actions.

[-] -1 points by AlBlack (0) 3 years ago

After watching the first couple of videos I was immediately shocked and bewildered as to why the Officer used pepper spray on those people.

However, after watching the remaining videos (several times) and seeing all the angles, and the fuller picture of what was going on around the scene, his actions make perfect sense. The situation was escalating rapidly and his actions stopped that escallation, had he not escallation was likely to continue to an uncontorllable end. These were not all peaceful protesters, the videos taken by the participants themselves show that.

[-] -1 points by EndTheIllusion (-1) 3 years ago

For over a week now, citizens have been gathering in Liberty Plaza in New York City to protest the greed and corruption of Wall Street and its corrosive effects on our nation's economy and well being.

This last week we have witnessed the spectacle of police guarding the bronze bull statue located on Wall Street. This sight is almost biblical in its significance, where the powers that be order their enforcers, the police, to guard the Golden Calf in front of the Temple of Greed where the elites worship their great gods: money, power, greed, envy, and lust.

Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs and one of the many high priests in this Temple of Greed, once stated that he “was doing God’s work”. It is likely that much of this selfless and charitable work takes place at this Temple of Greed. It is easy to envision the rituals of this Temple where with hands in the air, the high priests and their followers chant “more, more”, but “more”, is never enough.

Understanding the significance of this Temple and the Golden Calf makes it very easy to comprehend why the elites and their high priests ordered their enforcers to protect the Golden Calf. Should anything happen to it, the people outside the Temple would lose the grace and love of their gods resulting in an abyss of plague and famine. Those inside the Temple would be protected from this plague and famine because of their devotion to the gods, but those outside the Temple would be devastated.

As those outside the Temple we should be grateful to these High Priests for their concern and for recognizing the importance of guarding the Temple and Golden Calf. They demonstrated bravery and wisdom by calling out the enforcers restrain those who would challenge the Temple and its values. We applaud those among the police who responded with additional vigor and without question to protect the values of the Temple. While many of the enforcers practiced restraint, it is so comforting to know that there were those who showed their devotion and loyalty to the Temple and Golden Calf by ignoring the rights our nation’s founding fathers fought so hard to provide us. These enforcers who showed this initiative and loyalty to the High priests understand that when it comes to matters of the Temple, that civil liberties and other rights are irrelevant.

We should be grateful to those among the enforcers who prevented the protestors from assembling in front of the Temple.

We should be thankful for those among the enforcers who took away the protective tarps that sheltered the protestors from the rain.

We should admire those among the enforcers who were resourceful enough to dig up a law that is over 150 years old that forbids masks in public and to use this obscure law as a reason to arrest some of the protestors.

We should appreciate that there were those among the enforcers who had the courage and integrity to ignore the First Amendment rights of the independent press and prevented as many as they could from reporting on this protest.

We should be comforted that the corporate controlled media obediently follow the commandments of the high priests and largely suppressed this story. The audacity of these protestors thinking that they have the right to petition for jobs so they can support their families! The nerve of these protestors thinking they have the right to call for prosecution of the High Priests of the Temple!

These demonstrators who are so ignorantly challenging the morality of these High Priests need to be taught the lesson that it is unwise to challenge the Temple and its High Priests. Hundreds have been arrested, but more arrests are needed. A lesson on blind obedience to the overlords with bowed head needs to be reinforced. Again we are truly indebted to those among the enforcers who had the courage to educate them.

Only by blind devotion and faithful obedience to the commandments of the High Priests can we as people be brought out of the wilderness.