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Forum Post: Everyone Pays If the Banksters Don't Go to Jail

Posted 1 year ago on Feb. 2, 2013, 2:29 p.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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Excerpt: "Journalist Matt Taibbi assesses the Obama Administration’s approach to holding banks accountable for their behavior, and early indications are not promising. Taibbi tells Bill that fearing another economic calamity is no excuse for turning a blind eye to shockingly unethical decisions and management."

The calamity is due to the unethical and fraudulent decisions of the corrupt. Keeping them in power is the problem.

Full transcript and video interview in the link - http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/bill-moyers-and-matt-taibbi-everyone-pays-if-banksters-dont

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[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20556) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I agree in principle - the only long term solution is a comprehensive purge which unfortunately the President has no stomach for.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5688) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Some would suggest the President should be part of said purge.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20556) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I disagree. Most lefties cannot seem to distinguish between what the President actually did do regarding Libya, Egypt, Syria, and what right wing PNAC minions have called for and would have done if they had had the opportunity.

There is a huge difference.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5688) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Now, I didn't say I thought that should be the case. I merely said some would suggest it. Personally I think the President is just a figurehead.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20556) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I think there are those in the House and Senate who would prefer he were just a figure head. I think Bush II acted much like a figure head, and took much of his direction from people like Dick Cheney.

I believe there are some significant differences in policy, differences that people like Noam C. tend to ignore because they feel it simply isn't enough - and while they may be correct in that assessment, they may be incorrect in acting as if they assume the President can change everything by himself.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5688) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Absolutely true, the President is extremely limited in what he can do himself. A lot of people fail to realize that. That's why it's a mistake to "blame the President" out of hand.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20556) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

And those things that he can do - like recess appointments - which are now a matter of precedent - are being challenged in court by conservatives.

I think in a lot of ways he has had a very confrontational opposition - and some of that opposition has been consistent regardless of policy initiative. I do believe there must be a number of ways he could have behaved more decisively - like prosecuting bankers - but I know very little about the individuals or their resources and likely response[s] to such an event.

A purge. We NEED a purge

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20556) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

LoL!

[-] 1 points by thegreatsquare (16) 1 year ago

I believe a better title is: "Everyone Is Paying & Will Continue To Pay So Long As The Banksters Don't Go to Jail"

All you need is a basic understanding of economics to see that the Bush Bank Bailout of 2008 suspended basic principles of Capitalism and caused the collapse of the middle class. The bailout protected banks from economic correction, while the banks enforced the same correction on the middle class. Bad loans had nearly no repercussions for banks insulated by taxpayer dollars, relieving banks of the need to negotiate down consumer debt. Americans threw banks a lifeline and the banks in turn threw the American people to the wolves and this will continue until these people go to jail.

[...or those brave NRA members who need their crowd killers to defend American against tyranny stop being all show and no go.

HELLO! ...Mr. Gun Owner!! You're using tyrants for direct deposit!]

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

our entire monetary policy is based on giving trillions to banks and corporations.

[-] 2 points by thegreatsquare (16) 1 year ago

Yeah, but we have some choice over how and how much.

...You want to make protest simple and effective, turn OWS into ODC...

...for Occupy Debt Collectors. That's right, if you want to stress banks and corporations into place, you convince everyone to stop paying a good chunk of their bills for 4-8 months.

Purposely recreate the credit crunch and you give the middle class a do over.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

I don't remember having a choice when the federal reserve gave out 16 trillion in 2008.

You do provide excellent ideas!

[-] 2 points by thegreatsquare (16) 1 year ago

We personally have a choice in our spending.

Face it, capitalism isn't really even practiced anymore because corporatism has taken over and corporatism doesn't work. If you want to end an economic system, abandon it. The 99% could re-collapse the economy in months if they made the conscious collective decision to walk away from paying their debts. Regardless of the economic system, it will not work if the majority abandons it.

The 99% can end this corporate run economy anytime it wishes to just by sitting on their wallets. Stop paying Visa, Amex and Mastercard, stop paying student loans [I have them too, you guys agree on a month to implement an embargo on student loan payments and I'll be right there not paying it with you], and stop paying on anything else they can't take back.

Like my [old] history professor said at the beginning of the semester, "when all else fails, quit". The 99% can quit funding the system's existence anytime it chooses to, all we have to do is not pay our bills.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You have some great ideas, many of which OWS has pushed for.

It was greatly discussed in this forum post. Comments are really good too.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/they-should-have-let-the-banks-fail-how-every-phon/

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

"early indications are not promising" ... What kind of naive clown would think differently? The group that just got done accepting a shit ton of money from em is going to go hard on em? Haha...