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Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 23 hours ago

john McEnroe would say -"you can't be serious!" - as for what the third world suffers from did you forget colonialism and imperialism. your blind spots are showing. since you love to recite history how about a short synopsis of the years 1500 to 1940 - maybe start with vasco de gama and move right to king leopold and the congo. you might quote mark twain on that one.

as for America trying different approaches even mcenore is at a loss for words. luckily Chomsky is not - take note that the rich plundering the poor is the only policy we have pursued in the third world - everywhere and always!

"Despite much pretense, national security has not been a major concern of US planners and elected officials. The historical record reveals this clearly. Few serious analysts took issue with George Kennan's position that "it is not Russian military power which is threatening us, it is Russian political power" (October 1947); or with President Eisenhower's consistent view that the Russians intended no military conquest of Western Europe and that the major role of NATO was to "convey a feeling of confidence to exposed populations, a confidence which will make them sturdier, politically, in their opposition to Communist inroads."

Similarly, the US dismissed possibilities for peaceful resolution of the Cold War conflict, which would have left the "political threat" intact. In his history of nuclear weapons, McGeorge Bundy writes that he is "aware of no serious contemporary proposal...that ballistic missiles should somehow be banned by agreement before they were ever deployed," even though these were the only potential military threat to the US. It was always the "political" threat of so-called "Communism" that was the primary concern.

(Recall that "Communism" is a broad term, and includes all those with the "ability to get control of mass movements....something we have no capacity to duplicate," as Secretary of State John Foster Dulles privately complained to his brother Allen, CIA director, "The poor people are the ones they appeal to," he added, "and they have always wanted to plunder the rich." So they must be overcome, to protect our doctrine that the rich should plunder the poor.)

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 23 hours ago

read nsc68 - try to understand the origins of the cold war for real not just some patriotic idiotic bullshit. yea sure Reagan was just responding to the aggressive soviet superiority. what a load of crap as should be obvious since the air went out of that bag in 1989. the dreaded soviet invasion of Europe was a cruel joke as anyone with two brain cells could see at the time but now even obvious to those with only one

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 23 hours ago

So you say Kennedy forced Khrushchev to build up Soviet arms so I can also say that Brezhnev forced the U.S. to embark on an arms race under Reagan. Where does this begin or end? Tic-tac-toe, or global thermonuclear war, anyone?

Soviets stole nuclear secrets from the U.S. via the Brits. They also launched Sputnik and threatened the U.S. with nuclear-armed missiles. Was it any surprise that the U.S. put missiles close to the Soviet Union? No.

If we trace it far back enough, it was the Big Bang at fault, no doubt? Let's blame it all on Mikey. He ate the rancid GMO cereals rejected by the EU!

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 1 day ago

Much of the third world suffers from learned incompetence, impotence, superstitutions, hero worships, and heirloom corruptions. America has tried many different approaches but maybe the boundary conditions are truly contradictory so that no solution is possible, aside from destroying totally and reconstructing for decades from scratch, starting with the constitution.

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

the usual non response to what I wrote but that is no surprise. I wouldn't respond either if I were you since there is no rational response except - you are right I was an idiot. sure atrocities on both sides - you and jimmy carter - "the destruction was mutual" - sick - really sick. you are a waste of time. worse than that you promote and support the worst aspects of this imperial country - what a shame - exactly why are you here?

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

takes a really twisted mind to look at what we have done to the world - third world that is - and declare - "America needs a global fast-response heavy-hitting military force because we must HAUNT the Old World as the beacon of Hope" do you post on breitbart also? well this says it all no -Amerika über alles! - not sure how old you are but for sure old enough to know better. you deserve the choice of trump or Clinton - the rest of us do not

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 1 day ago

Shortly after my ancient-Greek (a)mensa style comment about gymnastics' twisting me, the U.S. woman gymnastics team really did win team gold medals, Amerika über alles!

The success of America can shame the Old World eelites to create better laws and institutions for the betterment of the lives of their charges because America is a microcosm of all of the Old World's Departed Souls. We showed that the common people, even the ones from the bottom of the barrel, when given Hope and Liberty under our laws and institutions have the ability to prosper and live great and happy lives in self governance in contrast to the oppressed masses still in the Old World.

America needs a global fast-response heavy-hitting military force (disengagement of the U.S. from the world after World War I sowed the seeds [Japan or Italy felt being a loser despite its being on the winning side and Germany was pinned down so it was ready for round two] for World War II - America Always does the right thing after trying everything else) because we must HAUNT the Old World as the beacon of Hope. We shall stand guard on this lonely reef and be our lighthouse's keeper. We'll keep the lights on for you. Our Destiny!

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 1 day ago

During the Vietnam War, we had a whole bunch of Hogwarts-infested desk-bound technocratic professional idiots in charge at the Death-Starfish who kept on filtering out nasty truths to hoi polloi. There were lies upon lies which caused incorrect assessments whose truth was needed for proper political and military responses. Have you ever caught the truth testes-frying lying down and not sticking up?

The wealthy and powerful enrolled their draft-age offspring in colleges and universities for "perpetual-student draft deferments." Many took long "vacations" to Canada and Mexico. Some future commanders-in-chief joined the National Guards, bought medical excuses, and registering for the draft near war's end to keep themselves "viable for the political process." Only the foolhardily patriotic, poor, or stupid ended up being shipped as cannon fodder. The system was rigged.

The atrocities committed by both sides in the Vietnam War were fewer and less disgusting than those of the Nazis and Japs. Still they were horrific, such as knife-induced auto-fellatio(they would cut for you but bring your "hotdogs" and "walnuts") for males and screwdriver, brokenneck-glass-bottle, or firecracker coitus/orgasm for females. Suspected villages were burned to the ground. Innocent civilians were murdered.

These were sad chapters of history that plainly violated the Geneva Conventions that the nuts in charge had signed onto. In those days, incurable ideologues could use a surely humane cure, a bullet through the mouth.

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

I read jack a few days ago - again on znet. that was a good one - sometimes he seems a bit out there for me but I always check out what he is up to when he writes there. I do understand the concept of neoliberalism and I know it is the latest phase of our beloved system. what I am not clear about is how things would be different under good old free market capitalism. you know the company store and 16 hr work day etc.

I would certainly vote for fdr and Keynes running the show again. that was a different style of capitalism but still we face the same basic problems of growth in a finite eco system and owners taking all the can get. no? fdr was saving the capitalists from themselves just like bismark seems to me. your thoughts??

and by way you can disagree with me on this and I will not rant at you. I know that is not clear from much of my recent history here. what I cannot deal with is "we didn't allow our soldiers to fight to win Vietnam" and "full spectrum dominance is a good thing cause the usa is great" and short of shit. and it is shit - anywhere and anytime but most definitely here on a site that carries the ows name!

''Who Profited From the $440 Billion Greek Bailout? Not Greeks'', by Jack Rasmus:

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas ...

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''Neoliberalism is constantly evolving and with it forms of imperialist exploitation as well. It starts as a free trade zone or 'customs' union. A single currency is then added, or comes to dominate, within the free trade customs union. A currency union eventually leads to the need for a single banking union within the region. Central bank monetary policy ends up determined by the dominant economy and state. The smaller economy loses control of its currency, banking, and monetary policies. Banking union leads, of necessity, to a form of fiscal union. Smaller member states now lose control not only of their currency and banking systems, but eventually tax and spending as well. They then become 'economic protectorates' of the dominant economy and State-such as Greece has now become.'' from:

Glad ''all good'' with you and yours. Ditto with me and mine, despite age and aches and pains, lol. I am trying to contact and exhort past posters here to return for the #S17, 5th anniversary. Do feel free to do same if you in touch with any of them. OWS was/is a significant milestone in USA's 99% Struggle and has gone on to seed & share much. Bernie was another such milestone &, though he fizzled out at the end of The Dem Primaries - he too has seeded much for the days ahead. Here's hoping Dr. Jill Stein & Ajamu Baraka can be a third stage to The Awakening!

per ardua ad astra ...

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

I read pepe every time he is on znet. he is terrific. the Chomsky back and forth is only interesting in that it shows the crazy debates the left gets itself into. I read the neoliberal article but not sure what would be different if we were in the plain old vanilla capitalism of the 1960's. the capitalists always work to roll back wages etc and take a bigger slice of the pie. the capitalists went on the attack right after the war to roll back union rights. same old story which he seems to say during the article.

all good here - and you?

Thread: The Demand for Debt
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''The Brewing Collapse of the Western Monetary System'', by Peter Koenig:

''It is high time for the freedom loving world to move out from under the boots of the empire; that we return to a multi-polar world of equals, that the international agencies we created to serve humanity are freed from the claws of their hijackers in Washington and those who command Washington, that the UN and its specialized agencies, as well as the International Criminal Court – even the Olympic Committee – may operate according to their peoples’ given mandates, that they may operate without the oppressive fist of Washington dictating them their terms. ‘Economics of Peace’ under a new egalitarian monetary system may lead humanity to freedom and prosperity for all.''

e tenebris, lux ...

Thread: Awake 3.0
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws." [John Adams]

Solidarity ...

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''Exceptionalism’s Wars'' ... with Peter Kuznick, Pepe Escobar & Peter Lavelle:

This is a rather "exceptional'' and erudite insight in to U$A's ''Exceptionalism'' when it come to relations with the rest of the world. I feel it apt here and am sure that you'll enjoy it even if you're already familiar with the points raised. Sorry about all the links, which can be hard work sometimes ... just that there's so much relevant info to share! Ignore what is onerous and/or skim and glance through if at all possible.

I was only vaguely aware of the Monbiot/Chomsky spat as it was conducted at the height of ''Occupy in Zucotti Park, NY''. I'm not sure it'd be too edifying to rehash it here BUT I do thoroughly recommend the excellent summary re. Neoliberalism & its history in the article in my link in my previous reply to you & to paraphrase it: ''Imagine living in The Soviet Union and NOT having the word 'Communism' to describe the regime'' - ie. we live in an age where the dominant ideology has no name and is assumed to be the only system/ideology available for human relations and progress! Yet - that is where we're at right now!!

I hope you, mayda and your family are well & that you're enjoying your ''semi-retirement''. Solidarity flip.

pax, amor et lux; hic, nunc et semper ...

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 days ago

what the hell is with you and the grape one. how many Vietnamese did we kill - 2 million as the cia estimates or 4 million as is more likely. how many would we have killed if we were "allowed" to fight it properly. korea was a police action since the un was involved.

Vietnam was called a war when I wrote a paper about it in 1967 as a high school senior. read Marilyn young's book on Vietnam or bruce cummings on korea. educate yourself about how horrific those sick interventions were. villages burned - civilians raped and murderer - damns blown up - all war crimes worthy of the Nazis or Japanese. and no! ho chi minh was not backed by the Chinese until well into the war. he fought the japs in ww2 and deserved our help for it. instead we "gave" his country back to the French to "boost their morale." and look up the Geneva accords of 1954 and then tell me who stopped the elections that they called for and why.

ok great you say we never should have been there but as to the rest of what you say it is right wing propaganda and worse - much much worse. you owe it to those here to educate yourself. start with the two books I mentioned. it is horrifying what you and grapes are saying and it belongs on a trump or cheney chat room.

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32821) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 days ago

Our involvement in Vietnam was a cluster fuck. We should not have been there. Having sent our troops (sons and daughters mothers and fathers brothers and sisters) there the government did not allow them to fight the war that they were inserted into.

They (the troops as well as the USA's Public) were told that this was a police action.

Blatant LIE as policing never had a chance to succeed.

The North Vietnamese were backed by China and were conducting a full scale war to overthrow the government of South Vietnam.

American military forces were denied the ability to be successful in fighting in a war by the government of the USA. Because the government of the USA was scared to death of escalating the war to include China in an active military roll with the North Vietnamese troops, wanting to keep the Chinese as they were = supplier/supporter "only" to the North Vietnamese.

I say again - we should never have been in Vietnam.

We should never have been in Iraq.

Thread: epi gekki
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1552) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

Where have all the flowers gone...

Thread: Awake 3.0
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1552) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

thank you

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 days ago

lots of rather silly opinions and some ny post history. not sure what to make of this but I guess it is good you are still here and banging away. we should end this. it is obvious you are either incapable of rational thought or don't want to engage in real dialogue.

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 2 days ago

In many cases, so-called losers are great people.

Gorbachov was in some sense the Messiah pulling us back from the nuclear annihilation staged for the alternate ending of World War III. Brezhnev would have engaged Reagan with an obese bear hug and rolled off of the cliff in embrace, with the sicko-and-hammock as well as the stares-and-strips waving in glorious synchrony.

John McCain spent his time honorably and "tortuously" on his "vacation" in the "Hanoi Hilton" which unfortunately had not been emblazoned with the garish neon-bright "Moscow Trump."

"Losers" who do the right things even under duress are great people. Right is might.

gotta love aspen - a great history of resistance and rich people weirdos and freaks. hunter Thompson and the crown family. don't you love the defense family crowns - where would Michele and the girls stay without them

Thread: for mr grapes
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

I will check them all out and get back to you. I am semi retired so I have time - but not so much energy. as an aside have you seen the Chomsky monbiot back and forth. long exchanges about Serbia and western crimes and from what I can read there poor George is not up to the task. if it doesn't make your head spin I will be impressed. it is a classic case of sniping and debate bullshit of the left.

Thread: CO2 and Temperature
[-] 1 points by grapes (4515) 3 days ago

¿Tera eRex o Mx. Cheese? ¿San Bernardino o Alhambra?

República Chiquita, Gringos y Fernando.

APCHA wants homeowner to pay $63,254 during appeal by Chad Abraham, Aspen Daily News Staff Writer Thursday, August 18, 2016 Printer-friendly version Email this Story

Mulcahy takes his case to appellate court

An Aspen man who is appealing a judge’s order that he must sell his home should put up a bond of $63,254 if he’s allowed to live there during the appellate process, the Aspen-Pitkin County Housing Authority contends.

Lee Mulcahy is taking the case for why he should retain ownership of his Burlingame home that he built himself to the Colorado Court of Appeals.

Mulcahy wants a judge to stay the order that he list his home for sale, meaning he would be able to stay in the residence, until the appellate decision, something APCHA opposes.

“In his motion for stay, defendant Mulcahy does not even address the jurisdictional issue that is the basis for the judgment in this action, much less any reason to believe that there is any basis for the Court of Appeals to reverse the judgment of the trial court on this issue,” wrote APCHA attorney Thomas Smith.

If Judge Chris Seldin of the 9th Judicial District does grant the stay, Mulcahy should have to put up the $63,254 bond, APCHA’s motion says. That amount includes attorney fees and what the housing authority believes it could get in monthly rent for the three-bedroom, 3.5-bath home until the appellate decision.

“A stay of the judgment in this action prolongs the defendant’s improper use and possession of the property during the pendency of the appeal,” Smith wrote. “This is similar to an appeal by a tenant in a landlord-tenant action which deprives the landlord of possession.”

APCHA won its case at the district court level last week when Judge Seldin denied Mulcahy’s motion to reconsider his earlier ruling in favor of the housing authority.

In that June ruling, the judge found that Mulcahy failed to properly appeal APCHA’s ruling that he had violated guidelines governing his deed-restricted residence. The violations included that he had not worked the requisite 1,500 hours required of Pitkin County residents who live in affordable housing and that he had failed to timely provide APCHA with information regarding compliance it requested.

Jordan Curet/Aspen Daily News The Aspen-Pitkin County Housing Authority, which is trying to force Lee Mulcahy to sell his home, wants him to put up a $63,254 bond if he’s allowed to live in it as the case goes to the Colorado Court of Appeals.

On Aug. 9, Judge Seldin awarded APCHA $15,419 in attorney fees. APCHA’s motion says state law calls for the bond amount to be 125 percent of the total amount of the judgment, or $19,274. APCHA also has the right to recover damages based on the home’s rental value, Smith wrote.

Mulcahy’s 1,912-square-foot home, valued by the county assessor’s office at nearly $800,000, falls within APCHA’s resident-occupied category, the most expensive. The maximum monthly rent for RO housing is $2,932.

“This amount needs to be multiplied by an estimate of the number of months from now to the decision of the Court of Appeals,” Smith wrote. “We believe that a reasonable estimate would be 12 to 18 months. At the low end, this would result in an amount of $35,184.”

APCHA believes it is entitled to 125 percent of that amount, or $43,980, for the total of $63,254. Judge Seldin has not yet ruled on the stay nor whether Mulcahy must put up the bond.

Mulcahy, representing himself, writes in his notice of appeal filed Friday that he has been employed as a property manager, substitute teacher, taxi driver and artist.

He wrote that APCHA ordered him to sell his home that he and his family spent years working on for $180,420, despite the assessor’s valuation.

Cindy Christensen, APCHA’s deputy director, said Wednesday that that isn’t accurate. The $180,420 figure likely stems from the appreciated value of the lot itself, since Mulcahy never submitted any construction documentation showing the work and final state of the home, she said.

Mulcahy’s grounds for appeal are that Judge Seldin “misapprehended controlling case law on several issues” and numerous admissions, arguments and positions he holds; “misapprehended and applied standards and cases addressing arbitration in lieu of standards and cases addressing administrative proceedings”; and that the judge evidenced clear errors in his factual findings.

“With all due respect, the order is clearly in error and is manifestly unjust,” Mulcahy wrote.


Letter: Other side to the story

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On Wednesday, the deputy director for Aspen-Pitkin County Housing Authority lied to the Aspen Daily News (“APCHA wants homeowner to pay $63,254 during appeal,” Aug. 18).

She said the city of Aspen didn’t demand that my family sell the house we built for $180,481 while we were in rural Kenya.

She didn’t stop with that whopper. She continued: “Mulcahy never submitted any construction documentation.”

The housing authority is out of control. In October, I took both my construction and employment documentation to the deputy director pursuant to an email I received from the qualifications director that would have required the housing authority to accept art as a profession, since she had already disqualified my other two jobs.

Instead, the housing authority’s deputy director refused to look at the construction and employment documentation, simply stating the director had decided to sue me instead, using your tax money.

In addition, the city of Aspen’s comical abuse of power is further illustrated by the fact that the city wants over $63,254 in rent and legal fees on the house my family built ourselves before we can appeal while refusing to allow us to rent rooms pursuant to its guidelines. If you’re confused, you’re not alone: The city of Aspen wants rent from a family’s house but refuses to allow them to rent a room?

The new judge never allowed a hearing or mentioned the reason for the “trip to Africa.” We were delivering used laptops and installing a water pipe from a water well Aspen residents had drilled in 2012 to a newly built medical dispensary. The used laptops were donated by individuals, churches and synagogues in the Roaring Fork Valley and Texas. The pipe was bought utilizing funds donated by generous Colorado and Texas residents in honor of my dad, who had just passed, Edward Lee “Bud” Mulcahy.

To that end, we’re still collecting used laptops for 2017. Drop them off at St. Mary’s, St. Stephens or the Aspen Jewish Community Center, or call me and we’ll come pick them up!

Lastly, we’re having a community barbecue honoring our law enforcement here in the Roaring Fork Valley: the Pitkin County Sheriff’s Office and the Aspen Police Department, on Sept. 5 from 3 to 7 p.m. at the “outlaw” Mulcahy house at 53 Forge at Burlingame Ranch behind the Maroon Creek Club. RSVP to 970-429-8797.

Lee Mulcahy

Aspen http://www.aspentimes.com/opinion/23496354-113/letter-other-side-to-the-story