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Thread: Writing "Traitor Trump"
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 8 hours ago

Our President is exploring pardoning himself with a presidential pardon. There is Nothing for him to pardon if he is not found Guilty first.

It smells like a preemptive attempt through a leak by close staffer(s) of the President to block the potential legal consequence of Independent Counsel Mueller's investigation.

The President boasted before that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his followers would still love him(not to impeach him through Congress after he has pardoned himself). Yes, we'll see if he is above the Law of the Land. There's a very fundamental reason why fat-ass Texassssss is still in our Union. It's where the Texas Instruments reside down under the Hog. Do you hear the transistors' pulsing waves of electrons? Have they been "straightened out" to cis already or are they still a little bit trans? Cisfer resistor, cisistor, was the great patentable elect-ronic invention of the GOOP!

Due to mu-ronic diverticulitis, the non-PP Cis-ACA is in rect-al cisit.

Thread: Writing "Traitor Trump"
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 20 hours ago

''Trump Team, ALEC, Koch Industries Debate Gerrymandering the US Senate in Denver'', by Mary Bottari and David Armiak:

spero meliora ...

Thread: Don't worry so much about Trump.
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 21 hours ago

''Pardon Me? Trump Gives an Interview and Hell Breaks Loose'', by William Rivers Pitt:

ecce homo ...

''Naomi Klein & Jeremy Corbyn Discuss How to Get the World We Want'':

dum spiro, spero ...

Thread: Tories
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 21 hours ago

The word ''Tory'' by the way, comes from a Gaelic root word for ..'bandit/robber'!

Thanx for another excellent forum-post & in compliment to Thom Hartmann,see:

per aspera ad astra ...

Thread: Controlling the Narrative
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 21 hours ago

Naomi Klein is getting ever stronger in her analysis. Thanx for a very effective excerpt & in compliment consider:

multum in parvo ...

Thread: Stick together stronger together
[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 21 hours ago

''The Powell Memo'', is at the heart and root of Oligarchic Crapitalism in U$A & deserves continuous reprise and consideration, imo. Ergo, I append this link:

Your interesting link starts with: ''Progressives are stumped. They keep asking the same two questions over and over again on social media, TV, and radio:

  • 1. Why don’t Trump supporters turn against Trump even though he is doing things that hurt them (like taking away their health care)?

  • 2. Why do Republicans hate the Affordable Care Act and why are they so transparently acting to give wealthy people a tax break by making health care unaffordable?

''Here is the short answer: All politics is moral. Supporting Trump, and gutting public health care resources in order to provide tax cuts for the wealthy, fits perfectly within the strict conservative moral worldview, which is hierarchical in nature. Voters don’t vote their self-interest. They vote their values.

''The longer answer requires a deeper explanation. Let’s start with the place where all ideas and questions originate: the brain''!


While I could agree with much of the article, there was at least one omission in that years & years of Lee Atwater's "Southern Strategy" type - Bat Shit Crazy, GOP & RWNJ, GOP-Lite Dem thinking and deep propaganda; has rendered a shocking number of White Folk in U$A - willing to vote like Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving and willing to forego what all other modern nations have (eg. Universal Health Care) .. just because the thought of people of colour {and especially African-Americans) may gain too, is so Deeply Unpalatable to them! Add to that, ''programmed false consciousness''; a reality of broken democracy; Mass Voter Suppression & Gerrymandering - and basically we're all faced with a de facto Fascism in USA!! HOWEVER .. there is hope because despite all that I said, Bernie Sanders won 23 States & had to be cheated out of the Dem Nomination, via DWS, DNC and their b-s ''Super Delegate'' system BUT it's clear to one and all, that Bernie v tRUMP .. would & could, have only gone one way!!!

TY for your kind words gsw. Solidarity in The Struggle For Freedom, of which OWS & Bernie are parts.

pax, amor et lux - hic, nunc et semper!

Thread: Trust Fund Perfidy
[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 22 hours ago

"Debunking Libertarian Myths" .. was a series of three OWS forum-posts done by sff80 from Norway, which really do warrant being remembered here at this or any time, as does he:

Thanx for excerpting that fine article by Mark Karlin. Such pieces do deserve wide readership in a time when The 99% in U$A need to discover the roots of their Oligarchic Corporate Tyranny. Ergo 3rd Link^.

fiat lux ...

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 2 days ago

Divestiture of railroad ownership to allow forming a few transcontinental pathways from existing or newly built railroads can make long distance railroad train travel much faster. There should be at least four transcontinental pathways, two for the southern and two for the northern route, one for passengers and the other for freight with the for-passengers one taking the straightest path to allow for future upgrades to higher speed trains.

The for-freight one should be optimized for minimal energy usage within the constraint of the grade climbable by a train, longer paths being acceptable if energy expenditures can be lowered by running the trains at higher gear ratios. The defunct Walmart Big Boxes should all be connected to the freight railways through streamlined intermodal transportation so that they can function as distribution centers where the commutation of goods and foods vertically and locally grown occur(some former Walmart employees will be redeployed) and sent to the local towns' residents.

There should be a wheel-hub transfer center at the most defended central heartland area of the continental United States, such as somewhere near Denver where NORAD is close to there. The railways' general connectivity can emulate a spider web's hub-and-spoke structure's because the spiders had to optimize their usage of silk(made of valuable proteins) relative to their insect-catching surface area. That will reduce the need for air travel when oil becomes scarce, too expensive, or both.

The non-existence of supersonic civilian air traffic shows that fast travel is not energetically favorable or environmentally tolerable unless it's well controlled and confined. The Autobahn's and our Interstate System show that as well.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 2 days ago

I love the power of the 'id'. That is where motivations, deprivations, emotions, depravities, etc. all come from. It's the 'dirt' where the down-to-earth genius of America lies, in harnessing it for the greater good(via the transcendence from the 'lotus seed'), essentially what makes life itself possible. Our water and sewerage system makes a great city functional. I am no "salesman" on Madison Avenue but I know that Canal Street had been named appropriately in the olden days before the East River was used instead.

Cholera had ravaged New York City, too, before the 'id' conquered it. My father's Enlightenment since World War II was that the common folks in the U.S.A. lived rather well - there were central heating(or in some cases air conditioning or both) in private homes and running Hot water, even in public toilets! I am proud of my Oval Office in the People's Temple. I am very devout so I go to worship there more often than a Muslim's everyday prayings. Day after day, I duly make my offerings(sometimes with Trumpian tweets and grunts, H1-B sari!).

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 2 days ago

Much of the suburban and rural U.S. is not "walkable." There will be much resistance from landowners to give up private land for public pavements. It will be like the situation of getting the very windy upper Midwest's windpower to Chicago's power grid. It makes No sense until it becomes required. Then people will gripe about why it hasn't been done beforehand.

If FDR had not prepared for WWII Years before it happened, Germany might have conquered the Americas.

Thread: Tories
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1716) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

It may not be too late but it won't be easy. So keep on keepin' on.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 2 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

in 1896 12,000 trains went through corning ny - i am guessing today it is a few hundred. we had a rail system that was the envy of the world. now we make the old rail beds into bike paths.

you idea is correct but you need to think about what it would take to make it happen. our food is grown in california - that has to change

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 2 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

i agree we once fed the nation before trucking and could again but it will take a large amount of work. i live in nj - the garden state - because it fed nyc. can't even feed itself now. the "transition movement" is doing just what you say - trying to move to a local economy. walkable towns, ramp up the railroads etc but that needs to be started soon.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 3 days ago

When the trucks stop running, we take the barge or the train.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 3 days ago

The New Industrial Age will be the Deindustrial(Local) Age alright, as you have said. I prefer a vision of where we can be, where we may likely be, where we may be, and where we might be. It's multi-level contingency planning. "Without a vision, the people perish." I certainly don't count on the Mars exploration project to come up with a breakthrough to save us on Earth. Do you agree with me that "When trucking stops" we may simply say, "so what?" We didn't have trucking forever before. The railroads and waterways will still be able to take up the (reduced due to supply localization) load.

A far easier(I assume and I hope! - I'm not sanguine though, having watched how tough the so-called repeal of ACA has tried to squirm its way through without success despite a ridiculously simple tried-and-true solution already proven and in use for many decades by the civilized countries at about half of the U.S. medical expenditure rate - inbred morons staring at their navels can lament the difficulties of keeping body orifices clean and keep on doing nothing despite having been "preparing" for it since seven years ago) breakthrough achievable is the one that might be possible with the reptilians amongst us. Many countries are currently led by reptilians. Much of our populace is also quite energy ignorant or doesn't really care. They were taught physics in school but lack the ability to translate that knowledge into effective and efficient control of their energy environments.

I doubt that we would go back to heating with wood as long as we don't start major wars. Las Vegas and Phoenix I agree will revert mostly to desert. The Hoover Dam cannot last forever(it started leaking from the first day of operation).

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

i don't think there will be a new industrial revolution but a deindustrial revolution. i agree lots of things can be done to create a a new and better way of life but this one has to go. anyone who is trying to recreate this type of insanity where we all have two cars and aircondition our houses to 65 degrees when it is 95 out is moving in the wrong direction - like elon musk for instance. seems to me we can get better and faster results concentrating on the science of the task at had instead of planning a mars trip and hoping for spin offs.

going local is what will happen whether we want it to or not. the suburbs cannot last and neither can las vegas or phoenix it seems to me.things must be done which will make this disruption less painful. i already have my house in the country where life will be easier and food can be grown. will be able to heat my house with wood if need be. my grandchildren will thank me i think.

we are going to live like we did in 1910 - not the jetsons 2040- get ready for it - it is coming sooner than you think! oil will spike in the next few years and the shit will hit the fan. economies collapsing and wealth evaporating. will make 2008 look like 1988

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 3 days ago

Technology cannot save us. Only we can save ourselves with the ancient lotus wisdom: "a father uses the promise of various toy carts to get his children out of a burning house. Once they are outside, he gives them all one large cart to travel in instead." -- "Care about others..." There is the special meaning in the cherry blossoms (sometimes only after the magic mushrooms have bloomed making ashes or following oddish's evolution).

Our own efforts can produce ~100% reduction of usage of fossil fuel but technology cannot approach that.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 4 days ago

"We must change our unsustainable way of life" Yay, right on the head of the nail, not the finger or the fingernail!

That last line is absolutely correct! Agriculture 2.0 and 3.0 are all coming to revolutionize our way of life. Imagine the empty Walmart Big Boxes driven out of business by Amazon's delivery system. They can accommodate urban/suburban vertical multi-level farming with LEDs, precision-controlled spectral lightings, waterings, and fertilizations, etc. Electricity will be the new trucks of tomorrow. Products can be made on-site close to where the demand is. Electric cars can buffer fluctuating renewable energy productions with natural gas helping to provide the baseload. There will still be the transcontinental trains and railroad networks (first made possible by the heroic Chinese laborers who punched through the most formidable snow- and ice-packed rugged terrains of the Sierra Nevada[the same snow{in Spanish, Nevada} mountain{in Spanish, Sierra} range which the ill-fated Donner Party members had previously hoped to cross in time to avoid winter but instead resorted to cannibalism to survive through it] to link up the olden days' California Territory) to rely upon for heavy-duty hauling over land. The extensive waterways system can provide even more energy-efficient transportation for the vast Mississippi Valley. Boston, New York City, Washington D.C., Syracuse, Chicago, St. Louis, down to New Orleans are all linked with navigable waterways. Then there is also the Missouri River that links the Midwest to almost the Pacific Coast in the olden days' Oregon Territory if we follow the footsteps of Sacagawea.

The New Industrial Revolution will come with material restructuring at the atomic and molecular level. The information needed for restructuring will fly around at electric or light speeds over telecommunication networks. Artificial atoms will form new materials of custom properties specifications. Nearly All material properties that we care about are electronic properties of matter. Controlling electronic distributions allow simulated electronic properties to be created.

Look at Schrödinger's Equation with a new perspective. We carefully control the forcing function(such as a voltage) perhaps with well placed charges and we can get any desired wavefunction as the result from which all electronic properties of matter can be derived. We want to go in the reverse direction. Firstly, we come up with a specification of the material properties we want. Secondly, we determine the electronic wavefunctions that will produce these properties. Thirdly, we insert the electronic wavefunctions into Schrödinger's Equation to determine the forcing function. Fourthly, we create a configuration of electrical charges in a real synthetic material that produces the forcing function. Finally, the resulting material will be verified to have the specified electronic properties. We can produce universal programmable catalysts for any theorized chemical reactions. If we become knowledgeable enough, a cyborg dream-maker can assess the feasibility of our dream of a possible reality beforehand and make it real if feasible. "Let there be dreams and it be so."

It may be why a project aimed at going to and living on Mars can throw off valuable spinoffs. Our lunar exploration project jumpstarted our microelectronics revolution whose results nearly everyone everywhere uses everyday. The Mars exploration project will probably throw off valuable environmental sustainability spinoffs, too. "We want to go to Mars, not because it's easy, but because it is hard; because it will focus our environmental sustainability efforts."

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 days ago

we agree on all of that - well maybe not so much venezuela where the imperial north and the rich white venezuelans have combined to wreck the economy. not that the government is blameless but lets not go there - ok - sorry i brought it up!

the question is how to do the revamping of society. when i hear all the arguments on how technology will save us and we can stop using oil tomorrow i cringe. divesting from oil companies is not the answer. we must change our unsustainable way of life. driving 2 hours into nyc to the law office or goldman to shuffle papers and make money must stop. to say nothing of the soccers moms and suvs and food from california

the last line from the book review is correct i am sure - "we’d be much better off using that fossil energy to convert away from industrial agriculture, to build passive solar houses and buildings, maintain and upgrade domestic waterway transportation infrastructure as well as other low-energy systems."

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 days ago

and thanks for the well thought out response - i know you like some of the less well thought out responses but i don't really??

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 days ago

for sure we need to begin to eliminate driving for non essentials - introduce real mass transit etc. i am hoping you are right but i am pretty sure you are wrong on some of these issues.

using renewable energy totally will require huge changes in the electrical grid. back up systems are not available yet but our present grid is designed for coal fired plants that can scale up or down on demand.

as far as trucking does i would refer you to this article - "When Trucks Stop Running: Energy and the Future of Transportation": Review By Allan Stromfeldt Christensen, originally published by From Filmers to Farmers • May 8, 2017 - or you could could read the book!

here are some highlights - "Friedemann’s book is simply one about the energetic options for the trucking industry, since what it actually does is use trucks as an interesting starting point for how to understand the viability of the various energy options available to our declining industrial way of life.

The underlying question then becomes: How can the trucking system be adapted to run on alternative fuels in order to remain viable in a world of depleting fossil fuels of which said trucks rely on? Because if the trucking system can’t be adapted, then there wouldn’t be much reason for building out the large-scale windmill, solar photovoltaic, and all the other fandangle electricity generating ideas being hyped.

And that’s all supposing that there’s even enough energy in the first place to charge those batteries, or to be a feedstock for the hydrogen fuel cells, or to power the overhead catenary system. Because while being a slim and easy-to-read 131-page book, When Trucks Stop Running also gives a barrel-by-barrel, kilowatt-by-kilowatt account of why none of our fossil fuel energy sources – not oil, not coal-to-liquids, not natural gas, not even any of their combination – are capable of maintaining the trucking system and thus our current industrial way of life.

Likewise, the book also conveys why no amount or combination of renewable energies are enough to maintain a trucking system which is needed to maintain a… renewable energy system. And sorry, Friedemann also explains why energy storage systems are a crapshoot as well.

In effect, you aren’t going to find much in When Trucks Stop Running to help sell your favorite brand of snake oil in order to prop up your Madison Avenue lifestyle. Otherwise, it’s an excellent read.

That all being so, Friedemann suggests in summation that rather than waste the fossil fuels we’ve got left on attempting to build out systems that won’t have much of a shelf life, we’d be much better off using that fossil energy to convert away from industrial agriculture, to build passive solar houses and buildings, maintain and upgrade domestic waterway transportation infrastructure as well as other low-energy systems."

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 4 days ago

The shifting away from oil and gas must be undertaken, however difficult, because they will become economically inaccessible to the masses sooner or later. It's important that we plan well, start early, and act steadfastly to advance towards the goal of weaning our economy from fossil fuels.

Venezuela is an example of not weaning from its dependency on oil revenues. The U.S. is different but if we don't act early with due diligence and haste, whether we don't have oil anymore or we don't have oil revenues, the end result won't be much different from Venezuela's.

Thread: Excess Money
[-] 1 points by grapes (4918) 4 days ago

You are very knowledgeable about this subject of oil. Oil is being displaced by natural gas on transcontinental shipments of produce from Cali to New York. It's still fossil fuel but it is much cleaner and emits much less carbon dioxide contributing to global anthropogenic climate change.

We currently do Not have the ability to replace fossil fuel in terms of our infrastructures but there is NO more technological breakthrough required, aside from scaling up of operations. Electricity and biodiesel from solar power can take over from fossil fuel as soon as the economic/political environment becomes conducive to the shifting over. Middle-East countries are trying to sell off their oil and gas before they become largely irrelevant to the U.S. Fracking and algae-derived biodiesel are two long-term ceilings on the price of oil.

Online ordering and to-door delivery of merchandise and infotainments allow reduced usage of fossil fuel. Amazon is integrating high infotech into this endeavor(for profits). Cars will become less essential if we use the new distribution system. We should rethink our transportation infrastructure. Driving a two-ton SUV to buy a gallon of milk to bring home and running over a teenage prostitute or a squeegee man on the way make so little sense to anyone other than the rednecks who enjoy speaking in German, "Warum?! Warum?!" with their hot Trump tailpipes, pretending to possess inquisitive minds.

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