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Forum Post: You might be a Revolutionary if:

Posted 4 years ago on Sept. 7, 2013, 1:53 p.m. EST by richlago1 (-25)
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You are capable of critical thinking. You distrust mainstream media. You like nature. You think it’s a good idea to spend the Friday after Thanksgiving with your family rather than camping outside Best Buy to get a cheap plasma television made in China. You think it’s a little strange that WTC building 7 came down at free fall speed on 9/11 yet it was never hit by a plane. You think that drones in America might not be for Al Qaeda. You would like to be able to get on a plane without having to engage in a mandatory radiation bath and digital strip search. You have read a book in the past year. You think you have the right to protest. You think the War on Terror is a scam. You think the War on Drugs is a scam. You think the anger directed at America from the Middle East could possibly be related to our foreign policy rather than hating how amazingly free we are. You think the Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same on the important issues affecting our country. You think believing in The Constitution does not constitute a terrorist act. You have heard of the Bill of Rights and can even name some of them. You think the right to bear arms is not for hunting, rather so citizens can fight back should the government become a bunch of tyrannical thugs. You think rich, powerful and connected people should be subject to the rule of law and go to jail if they commit crimes. Even if they are bankers and work at JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs. You think corporations aren’t people. You know that gold was made illegal by FDR in 1933 and confiscated from the American people. You know that gold bullion remained illegal for Americans to own until 1975. You think politicians that push for war should be sent to fight on the front lines. If they are unable, their children should go. You want your food to be labeled GMO so that you can make your own decisions on what you are consuming. You think food and energy should be included in inflation calculations. You are aware that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased 1.2 billion rounds of ammo in the past year. You question whether said ammo purchases are in anticipation of a Normandy beach style landing by Al Qaeda. You think allowing a small group of unelected people (The Federal Reserve) to print unlimited amounts of money and distribute it as they please might not be a good idea. If you answered yes to more than five of the above, you might be a conspiracy theorist or a revolutionary. You also may be on the government’s terror watch list. Be very alarmed and report it to the authorities immediately should you discover your neighbors engaged in such uncivilized thought.



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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Then again, you may not be, if you fail to understand the importance of proper punctuation, as it relates to the clarity of any given message.

[-] -1 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

Yeah I know. I was in a hurry.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Do you feel that you qualify for all of these?

[-] -1 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

I just don't like the direction this country and the global-corporate-governmental-petro-pharma-complex is going. Our great nation is a shell of what it once was. The American people exist as a revenue source for corporate sponsored wars. The corporations have moved on to India and China. There are billions of people there that need microwave ovens, washing machines, toasters, cars, T.V.s all the normal consumer crap.

I wonder if they are advertising to them and referring to them on their evening news as 'consumers' yet?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Shiiiiiit. You should see what they've done to Florida and N. Carolina and are attempting to do to places like Michigan.

Although I still fail to understand what the unpunctuated mess in this thread has to so with China.

[-] -1 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

I will confess. My post was copied and pasted from something that was sent to me. In the original it was all line item statements. As it appears on this website it is an unpunctuated run-on sentence. I do agree with most of the points presented, that's why I posted it.

My apologies for the poorly presented script.

We are currently building military bases surrounding China, as we have done with Russia. We owe them $ trillions and we are strengthening our position all around them. To quote Led Zepplin "and it makes me wonder". Is the U.S. anticipating military 'conflict' with China?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

The dry, simple, bare bones truth, is this.

Since the end of WWII, the pentagon has been anticipating conflict with everybody.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

And war-gaming every possible ( impossible? ) scenario.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

My biggest issue, is they copy and paste this trash, and NEVER give the source, all the while pretending like they are "independent thinkers".....

Nothing could be further from the truth.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

The shills are the classic example of dependent thinking - they depend on their masters to think for them.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

That kind of stuff, ends up in my Email trash can.

I'd advise them to do the same, but I doubt it would do any good.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

Well it is a charitable thought - but that again is the problem - they have no thoughts - not their own.

[-] -2 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

I agree. Defence is one thing, corporate wars to enrich the 1% is something else. When I was younger I worked in a machine shop during the Vietnam war. A journeyman machinist co worker worked for months making double ended needle point rods about 1/4" X 1 1/2" on a lathe. Each piece inserted into the jaws, tightened, turned to a point, untightened, turned around, and the process repeated. These small double ended needles went into a fragmentation grenade.

Don't you think a stamped part, or maybe even roofing nails would have been almost as effective?

Even then I thought it was insane. To me this is a glaring example of corporate wars for profit. I don't see much profit in war with China however, but give them time, they'll think of something. I hate to say it but it could be that giving a primate an enlarged brain could be an evolutionary dead end. (read Nucular War). Maybe with OWS there is a chance?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

" Maybe with OWS there is a chance?"

That's why I'm here.

Now about the mish mash of this thread?

Will you be clarifying any of it at all?

[-] 0 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

I need a proxy server ! It's not if you're paranoid, it's if you're paranoid enough!

It may sound simplistic, however I think a lot can be done with boycotts of corporate businesses. Look what happened when a lady started a movement against a $ 5.- fee increase for a B.of A. checking account. the B-tfkrs of America backed down. How about pick one business per week and nobody patronizes it?

How about everybody refuse to pay taxes? That would be a biggie if it could be done. How about getting an OWS person elected president and then keeping them alive long enough to do something.

Sadly I think most Americans are too wrapped up in their own struggle to pay the bills to do much of anything. I hate to say it but I really don't have much hope for any real change. There was a rock group called Ten Years After in the 60-70's. A line from one of their songs, "Id love to change the world, but I don't know what to do. So I'm leavin' it up to you".

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

According to your OP and that post, you should probably just give up.

But I'll give it a shot anyway.

How about 3 month moratorium on gun purchases, including repair and ammunition?

[-] -2 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

What about the second amendment? Your suggestion sounds like something coming from a dictatorial, totalitarian, disarm the people and the gov'nt can take over type of stance. Are you for real? I'm surprised. What about FEMA and the 1.2 billion rounds purchased by them? If that is true, I find it quite disturbing indeed. The gov'nt can engineer any type of 'crisis", be it a supposed cyber attack, fake dirty bomb, infectious disease outbreak. Look at Boston. They shut down a whole town because of a couple of young men with pressure cookers.

I know there was a reason for the Boston thing. I'm just saying they could make something up, round us up, and we would have to just sit down and shut up without the second amendment. It was designed to prevent tyrannical gov'nt takeover, you know! Not Duck hunters.

I was thinking along the lines of huge multi-national corporations.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

What's any of that have to do with a moratorium?

We just want to send them a message. I thought that was the point?

[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

I think politicians that push for war should go to jail for war crimes.

I guess I only need to agree to at least six of the above to be labeled a revolutionary. I suppose the government knows where I live 'cause they got my IP address. I suppose I ought be looking out for drones.....


[-] -2 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

I don't understand.

[-] -1 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

I agree with everything except the reason for the DHS ammo purchase. I think the government is terrified of a populist uprising.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Do you agree with this as well?


What about it's implications of being "revolutionary"?

[-] -2 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

I won't even click a Glen Beck Link, sorry. I don't consider myself a revolutionary either as the principles outlined in this post are the intent of our constitution and our democracy. The choice being laid out in this post seems very basic to me. Do you consider yourself a freedom loving American or would you settle for living in a watered down version of Nazi Germany.

I am a freedom loving American. You?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Funnily enough, most of this is Glenn Beck libe(R)tarian, teabagge(R) clap trap.

Masquerading as "patriotism".

It must be the glaring lack of punctuation that keeps you from seeing that simple fact.

Your last sentence would appear to agree with him.

[-] -2 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

Hitler pushed science to new levels. Being that Dems are very pro-science, does that mean you support Hitler? Drawing false parallels is for people with no debate skills. Are you trying to make a point or to label me?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Nothing of the sort.

I'm just wondering why you won't click the link, even though you agree with most of what he says.

[-] -1 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

What part of this post do you disagree with and why?

[-] -2 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

I see freedom as a participatory idea. Participate in things you support, and do not participate in things you do not support. By clicking the link, I would be participating in Glen Beck's viewership. I do not support him so I do not participate in his offerings. This is a practice I hope more people someday consider.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

What you fail to understand, is that you support him already, simply by posting this thread.

If you would extend your thoughts on a few of the many concepts you've presented, we may be able to come to an understanding.

As it stands, I can see how that might be very difficult.

Was that your aim?

[-] -1 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

I didn't post this thread, I replied to it, then you replied to me. Not sure how you came to understand the sequence of events otherwise.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

It was your support for it's concepts.

"I agree with everything except the reason for the DHS ammo purchase."

I will correct and reiterate.

If you would extend your thoughts on a few of the concepts presented, we may be able to come to an understanding.

[-] -3 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 4 years ago

You're gaming the forum filters as we speak. I stated what I agree with and disagree with. You did not and probable will not. You're simply baiting me to comment enough times to be down-voted and automatically shadow-banned.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

You do understand that this thread was baiting to begin with?

Now, if you would care to clarify anything at all from the OP, even that which you claim to disagree with, it would be more useful than what you're doing.

If isolated, many of these concepts in the OP lack even the simplest of explanations.

They may as well have been cribbed from Glenn Beck.

They are the stuff of late night AM radio "talk shows"..


[-] -3 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

The last sentence is meant to be humourous. I have heard that at the take over of Hitler roughly 1/50 people were informers on their neighbors. What if the government gave tax breaks to those that informed on people like us?

It could be done you know!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

I'm just trying to sort out your un-punctuated and very dense thread post.

You're not helping at all.

PS: I do find your referring to yourself as a "freedom loving American", to be amusing as well.

[-] -2 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

What would suggest?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Something with effective punctuation would be more conducive to communication on any one of it's concepts.

Indeed narrowing it to few related concepts would also be useful.

As it stands, it's an overwhelming mish mash.

[-] -3 points by richlago1 (-25) 4 years ago

Freedom loving American! Not a subject, or consumer, or plebeian slave existing solely for the corporate overlords.