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Forum Post: Will The Real Mr. Snowden Please Stand Up?

Posted 4 years ago on Aug. 4, 2013, 11:29 a.m. EST by nazihunter (215)
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After seeing all the news clips about Snowden for the last month. I still don't know just what information he leaked that put the country's security at risk. However, I did watch Stephanopouis, (whatver), on Sunday. A U.S. General came on too state they are NOT spying on the populace. They are only doing so when bells and whistles go off on a particular person or persons. Logic would beg me to ask, "If that's the case, then why are they so concerned about him?" Another question that oft comes to mind is just how many people need to make journeys in and out of the country for a few years here and there? How big an organization do you need to concentrate on those folks? Yet the Sunday morning folks to the left and right condemn this guy and talk up the police state, without calling it a police state. I do know this!, and people still need help here),: The LEFT-RIGHT system is a FAILURE, and in fact, doesn't exist. There is only ONE system: A government to which the most money go the spoils. Very soon, fracking pipes will be under your house and you'll be breathing in the down winds of the tar sands. But I'm only one person. What say you?



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[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

I'm not sure what Snowden revealed that has not already been revealed. I'm in the middle of this good book by Laurence Lessing "Code, Version 2" about legal issues about the internet like privacy and other things. In it he writes about the NSA spying on the internet and on the telephone network; pretty much everything Snowden has been saying. Only thing is, the book was written over eight years ago!

Obviously, there is more going on than meets the eye.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 4 years ago

I'm gonna take a wild guess that the system is so vast and so intrusive that the gov't has no idea how much Snowden knows about what they are doing -- from which I would infer that there is a whole lot more to be unearthed. I wonder if Hastings was working on this? That death is soooo suspect.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 4 years ago

well it is obviously murder. only a pituitary retard would think it was not the assassination of one of the top investigative journalists in the world who had already taken out a 4 star general. the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 4 years ago

Yep. I think everyone in gov't and media are living in fear between a rock and a hard place: Obey the puppetmasters and risk the ultimate wrath of the citizens, or do the right thing and disappear. Hardly a choice, really. It's up to the citizens to do something, and that is what OWS is here for -- to help us see the truth and figure out new ways of being.

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

And what is the probability that OWS is already subverted?

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 4 years ago

That of course remains to be seen. I believe trust has been undermined intentionally for decades, and it will take us time to rebuild it -- not in our government but in each other. Each of us can do our best to help that trust build up again.

[-] 0 points by nazihunter (215) 4 years ago

Exactly. There has always been a plan in play to divide people. With race, class, employment, education, access, etc. Consensus is now absolutely impossible. Imagine if blacks, chinese, indians, whites, mexicans, on and on and on actually viewed each other as the same and special privileges were rejected along with low wages. The powers that be would be beside themselves. Every time racism meets prime time it's a victory for THEM. Everyone else is a victim.. But, it's up to the other races to point that out. Like in the last case, there were plenty of whites condemning the white man's action. The black kid's actions were not exactly exemplary either. They certainly didn't justify murder. But, you know what I'm saying.

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 4 years ago

I do know what you are saying. We can change it over time by doing exactly what we are doing here -- bringing things to light, showing that governments are institutions fighting to hang on to centuries of control, not for any citizens but for the institutions themselves. Governments and religions are designed to guarantee control rests in them rather than in the people. I do hope they will wear each other out and leave us all to get on with our lives.

[-] -1 points by nazihunter (215) 4 years ago

Man! That puts the hypocracy right in your face. Doesn't H? It angers me to think the media & their talking heads think we're all that stupid. It insults the country.