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Forum Post: Why should an honest person care about NSA surveillance?

Posted 1 month ago on Feb. 18, 2014, 11:41 a.m. EST by thenewgreen (170)
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I created this video as a response to peoples assertion that they aren't concerned about NSA surveillance because they have nothing to hide.

You can view it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmNfOWb-qL0

I'd be happy to hear feedback on the video and to know, what (if anything) we missed? Thanks all, this is something that we all need to be discussing whether you are on the right, left or indifferent.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 month ago

NSA data banks should be available to the public

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20510) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

that suggests that all of your sexting should be right at my fingertips - honestly Matt, I'm not interested. The problem is so many others may be . . .

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20510) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

well, first let me say that I'm not crazy about the layout, primarily because I'm an old guy with kinda iffy eyesight. The eye-cons are just too small.

The organization, the ability to keep up with those individuals and those topics of interest - this represents a tremendous improvement over this particular platform - what I mean is, it is as if http://occupywallst.org were the stone age, and http://hubski.com some new age of enlightenment, or whatever comes after global warming.

Anyway - I'll keep http://hubski.com in mind, but probably not join the community.

I might - I might not.

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What Does The Video Miss?

One commentator makes the mistake of assuming we must all look over our shoulder -

  • the citizen has to look over their shoulder the citizen has to be wary of government

That is not at all true, and the fact that this is not true is easily established - go to any big city and make inquiries on any street corner. You will find far more than half of those you interview are somewhere between not at all concerned and only somewhat concerned about government surveillance. The reason is because it is not real to them, it is not immediately apparent that a real and practical threat exists in anything other than concept. They simply do not feel threatened. The average citizen has absolutely no idea how totally and completely naked they really are.

Yet, I insist - we may as well gather in Manhattan, remove all our clothes, and scream out BLOW ME - and the reason I say that is because we are not likely to find any gratification in our protest of the NSA - rather what we will find is that by some obtuse chain of events and perverse inversion of reason, logic and common sense, we have somehow facilitated in our own over exposure.

Every single byte of data harvested by the NSA comes to it via the private sector. Whatever threat the NSA may pose is and will remain a threat the private sector may employ at will.

Cookies.

Targeted Advertising.

Your cellphone hardware.

No one is complaining anywhere near loudly enough about these specific components - they are merely accepted accoutrements of digital life in the 21st century - that they are integral tools to the process of gang stalking which in its most sophisticated forms can produce mass murderers is a fact that seems to completely escape almost everyone - and so no one complains.

I complain.

I will keep complaining. It seems whining is not only my principle skill, it is also my chief avocation.

I have written about this topic just recently -

[-] 2 points by thenewgreen (170) 1 month ago

ZenDog, if you head over to Hubski, my username there is the same "thenewgreen" please do say hello and I'll be sure to follow you.

We have different "settings" for how Hubski looks, perhaps we should create the "old person" setting with large comic sans font :)

You write: One commentator makes the mistake of assuming we must all look over our shoulder - the citizen has to look over their shoulder the citizen has to be wary of government

I think what he's saying or alluding to is that the paradigm has shifted to one where the citizen fears his govt more than the other way around. This isn't anything new though, think of the "Senate Committee for Unamerican Activities." It's just that now we are ALL being watched and not just potential communist sympathizers.

Anyways, hit me up on Hubski, I'd be glad to talk more with you there. Cheers!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20510) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

remind me later and I'll check it out

[-] 2 points by thenewgreen (170) 2 weeks ago

Well... that went well.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (20510) from South Burlington, VT 2 weeks ago

yeah - sorry man. I keep thinking it's some sort of collegiate behavioral rescripting program run by one or two passive aggressive global warming denialists . . . only instead of denial they instead suggest with all of the subtlety that misdirection will allow: don't worry, do nothing and be happy . . .

I just can't take it - much more of that and I'd probably have to shoot myself.

[-] 2 points by thenewgreen (170) 1 month ago

It's later.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 weeks ago

and we are all watching them