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Forum Post: Why protest for jobs if they're still available?

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 11, 2011, 10:38 p.m. EST by doglover101 (2) from Crescent City, CA
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If occupiers say they can't find jobs, why don't they use all their options first? If somebody really wants to find a job, they can usually find a way to work. In North Dakota there is actually a labor shortage, so why not figure out a way to move to North Dakota and earn $15/hour or more?

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/28/pf/America_boomtown_jobs/index.htm

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[-] 5 points by hamalmang (722) from Lebanon, PA 2 years ago

Every year hundreds of thousands or millions of jobs disappear or are outsourced. Population grows. Production ceases. 30,000 manufacturing plants have closed in the last decade. Everything is made in China because they have hundreds of millions of wage slaves with no rights. More and more jobs become obsolete or automated. How can you people not see this?

All the jobs in my town except in restaurants are offered through job placement agencies who take over 25% of the measly wages. One can't support themselves much less a family on minimum wage. Living wage is more like $15 and climbing. $7 wouldn't even cover rent and health/car insurance.

[-] 2 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 2 years ago

Even with that labor shortage there is about one job for every six applicants. North Dakota is a small state; a labor shortage for them is a city block in Manhattan.

[-] 2 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 2 years ago

I'm not picky or anything, but working at oil rigs is not for everyone...

Also working for Halliburton is working for the devil himself.

[-] 1 points by jamespdavid (1) 2 years ago

It is your choice, if anyone wants to protest then they can!! but it is absolutely right that why protest for jobs if they are still available. if you have talented and appropriate degree then you can easily get jobs in USA. I want to talk about North Dakota. There are lots of job vacancies available in this state. Apply your resume on some online job provider site such as ( http://www.jobsnorthdakota.net ) etc. you will found lots of job vacancies. No need to protest .....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

America was once a place where even people with out college degrees could get jobs in factories making the equivalent of $50k a year. We want that America back. I'm not speaking for myself, as I have a job. I'm speaking for those who don't.

Good paying jobs for all benefit all of us, since one way or another, we are all each others' customers.

[-] 1 points by ModernJobSeeker (2) 1 year ago

I think it'll be some time before we get that America back, but just because we have to work that much harder to get $50k a year doesn't mean we shouldn't even attempt it. America was built on the backs of the poor, so if we're to "rebuild" this nation we might need to consider the hardships that our countrymen before us endured. That sounded like a sentence straight out of a middle school history book, and for that I apologize. :P

[-] 1 points by randart (498) 2 years ago

Most people can't afford to make a move across the country in the hope that they will find a job. Maybe these jobs will simply dry up and leave people trapped in a region of the country where the temperatures are hovering around zero degrees right now.

It might work for some but for those who have been burned by these come-ons before it is too great a risk to subject their family's security.

[-] 1 points by NLake72 (510) 2 years ago

I'm a former teacher, so I'm used to the idea of moving around the country to find work. But, I have no desire to live in North Dakota. For starters, my daughter lives here, with her mom. And, I'm a lot less inclined to pick up and move when jobs in my area, or my field of work, have been outsourced or reduced to slim pickings-- because some corporation decided it was cheaper to do business in another state, or overseas. I'm lucky, I have college degrees and a few options-- but, a lot of folks don't. Thus, they get stuck in service industry jobs making less than they should be, instead of doing something more lucrative, or even personally rewarding. Businesses have more responsibility to their communities, and Americans shouldn't be reduced to wage slavery unless they choose that kind of life for themselves.

[-] 1 points by freedomanddemocracy (72) 2 years ago

You mean the minimum wage jobs with no benefits, long hours, no overtime, no paid vacations, no retirement, no nothing except long hours of manual menial work that doesn't even pay the bills! Millions of the good jobs were outsourced by greedy and corrupt CEO's and the politicians who made laws to encourage them to export our factories and jobs overseas to China and India! Just wait, your job is next and when it happens to you, you will also be asking " where are the jobs"? The reason there are jobs in your area is because of the shale oil deposits, if it wasn't for that your area will also be seeing unemployment in the double digits! Not everyone can or knows how to do hard labor in construction or the building trades. Them millions of jobs outsourced to China and India were in the management and service industries.

[-] 1 points by fansmiles (24) from New York, NY 2 years ago

with benefits? because $15 without benefits is called exploitation...

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

I examined Craigslist ads after this story came out. The wages offered are not that great.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 2 years ago

The best jobs are filled via word of mouth. I own a small business and I would never post a job opening in something like Craiglist. I don't even place ads in professional journals. The riffraff that you would have to deal with is not worth it. If an employer needs to resort to such a public thing as Craigslist to fill the position, it is probably not a position worth having.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

The best jobs are gotten by friend and family recommendations, absolutely true. I would not start trekking to North Dakota for a job without such a recommendation.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

Don't write off the job boards!

I have worked at at least 10 different places in the past 20 years. The last five of so jobs I found using careerbuilder.com and monster.com.

Put in your information, location, and search

  1. http://www.monster.com
  2. http://www.careerbuilder.com
  3. http://www.dice.com
  4. http://www.snagajob.com

Don't give up the search! There really are so some good jobs out there and the list is getting longer not shorter.

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

Thank you.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

aren't you a farmer don't you own your own business? why would you need a job?

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

yes but you haven't been working the same career for the last 20 years. take your jobs shove them up your ass and squeeze.

[-] 1 points by johndavid (1) from Manila, NCR 2 years ago

well not all occupiers can go there & be hired. just count the participants, the cities being occupied. simple rules, simple math. see harder, think harder.

[-] 1 points by doglover101 (2) from Crescent City, CA 2 years ago

If your read the article I posted the link for, you'll find there are many types of jobs available, because of the new work force there! There are $15/hour jobs at fast food restaurants, grocery stores, etc. The unemployed can't be too picky for jobs...

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 2 years ago

Well personally I'm studying IT (hopefully that won't get outsourced by the time I graduate <_<) so...

Wait did you just say that you can make $15 working at a fast food restaurant?

[-] 1 points by doglover101 (2) from Crescent City, CA 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

Because that means they actually would have to work. I have never bought into the argument "I can't find a job". It is more like, i'm not willing to do anything to help myself so if a job where I want it to be isn't available, there is no way I'm going to go find one.

[-] 1 points by DunkiDonut2 (-108) 2 years ago

Work? Are you kidding? Lazy is the new America.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr-iwhABAX8

Unemployable

He's got a big gold ring what says \"Jesus Saves\" And it's dented from the punch thrown at work that day When he smashed the metal locker where he kept his things After the big boss said, \"You best be on your way\"

Oh yeh So this life is sacrifice

Oh yeh Jumping trains just to survive

Well, his wife and kid are sleeping but he's still awake On his brain weighs the curse of thirty bills unpaid Gets up, lights a cigarette he's grown to hate Thinking if he can't sleep, how will he ever dream?

Yeh So this life is sacrifice

Oh yeh To a stranger's bottom line

Yeh I seen the light,... Uh-oh oh oh, uh-oh oh oh I's scared alive,...

Near to death,... Uh-oh oh oh, uh-oh oh oh I seen the light,... Scared alive.

Yeh So this life is sacrifice

Oh yeh They can't say I never tried

Yeh I seen the light,... Uh-oh oh oh, uh-oh oh oh I's scared alive,...

Near to death,... Uh-oh oh oh, uh-oh oh oh I seen the light,...

Scared alive,.... Uh-oh oh oh, uh-oh oh oh Near to death.

Hear to die. Scared alive.

Near to death. Here to die. Scared alive--------------Eddie Vedder

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

sure you can make 100k or more in the dakotas right now but and there is a but there is zero housing so whats the point if you can't have a place to live and have to live out of your car. you mine as well stay in your car in whatever city or town you are in now.

[-] 0 points by ModernJobSeeker (2) 1 year ago

There are jobs, but competition for them is still high. For example, here's a list of jobs within 100 miles of North Dakota: http://jobs.ziprecruiter.com/candidate/search?search=&location=North+Dakota&radius=100

It's a good selection, but just because there are jobs doesn't mean job seekers won't have to fight hard to land one.

[-] 0 points by doglover101 (2) from Crescent City, CA 2 years ago

Yeah, I agree with you guys. I just got a job at an animal grooming place, because the vet can't find enough people who are willing to work hard! There are so many people in my town who aren't willing to work hard, they'd rather get unemployment or Social Security than work... I was just wondering if it was like that in other parts of the country too, and unfortunately it is.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

Willing to work hard? Oh don't worry you will soon have plenty of legalized immigrants by the truck load willing to work hard for next to nothing to do your job. How much do you make an hour? Get ready to take a pay cut or watch someone else take your job.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

yeah i don't feel compelled to tell other countries how to run their economies. we can't even run ours. that and i respect national sovereignty. that being said i think we could make a minimum wage for any company that does business in the us or with the us including importing goods. but a global wage, that sounds like some un shit i don't really feel the un is a trust worthy entity.

[-] 1 points by ModernJobSeeker (2) 1 year ago

Out of pure curiosity (as I don't know too much about them outside of watching 'Hotel Rwanda,' lol), what is it about the UN that you feel is untrustworthy?

[-] 2 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

there is extensive corruption in the various acting bodies of the un. it's corruption on a global scale. whole nations are bought and sold.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (20523) 1 year ago

I think a Global Minimum Wage is a great idea. It would eliminate a lot problems here and around the world and is something that should be given consideration. And, it wouldn't have to be related at all to the World Bank or the UN (I didn't know what you meant by un, lol, until I thought about it.)

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Get a job fracking!!!!!