Forum Post: Why dont' we use Citizen Arrest?
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 5:42 p.m. EST by Rallinc
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Why dont we use our constitutional rights? The police are breaking the law. Arrest them.
A citizen's arrest is an arrest made by a person who is not acting as a sworn law-enforcement official.[1] In common law jurisdictions, the practice dates back to medieval Britain and the English common law, in which sheriffs encouraged ordinary citizens to help apprehend law breakers.
We have our right to peaceably assemble. But that does mean peaceful. When we insist on doing something that breaks another persons rights, its not peaceful assembly anymore. Like for example, if we block a road and it keeps other people from using it. Then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights for them. If we take a park and keep the kids from playing in it on the swings, then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights that we took. when we blockade a port and close it and keep people from earning their paycheck, we are stealing their rights and the state can come in and take back their rights for them that we took. Im all for doing this, Im in a local camp, but don't spout hyperbole and that the state is violating our rights. they are not. They are taking back rights for other people that we took with our occupation. Just to be clear. peaceful assembly does not equal forceful occupation. We are forcefully occupying. so far the cities are being really good about working with us so we can get the message out by occupying. But its real fine line we are walking, and when one too many citizens gets pissed they can't use their park that we took, or they can't drive down a road to visit their mom in the hospital, we're going to have to understand that we started this. Lets be clear, we are breaking the law. Not that we should stop, but we should stop whining about people wont let us break the law. And just do it, just occupy, knowing that we are. Don't rationalize the occupation as lawful. Its not.
rofl, make sure there are cameras around when you arrest some cops. I'd hate to miss this one
From the same Wikipedia article:
American citizens do not carry the authority or enjoy the legal protections held by police officers, and are held to the principle of strict liability before the courts of civil-and criminal law including, but not limited to, any infringement of another's rights.
I think Michael Moore tried something like that - It really does beg the question: has the 'corporate citizen' mitigated the risk of arrest away from their continuously malicious profit motive?
There is only one slight problem with this. You technically "can" arrest a cop, but the thing is, you have to deliver them to...the cops.
Yeah, you see where it's getting a little complicated. Who do you think they are going to side with? You'd only end up in jail for assault on a "police officer" (A crime that is ridiculous, as you could simply charge the person with aggravated assault, but the cops are considered part of the elite, they are their Janissaries.)
Anyways, you get the idea. Arresting a cop, only works on paper.
First, the right to a citizen's arrest isn't part of the Constitution (I'm fairly sure.) When you use the phrase "Constitutional Rights" it means rights given by that specific document.
Secondly (and I've said this in another thread,) because you will die.
You cannot go up to a cop and try to take his gun (which "arresting" would entail.) He will shoot you, and it will be legal.
It's not the police breaking the law, it's Mayor Bloomberg. The police are just doing what they are told, and they are ordered about by Mayor Bloomberg. The buck stops with Bloomberg. The police are Occupy's friends. Arrest Bloomberg.
Iv never seen anyone try... so are you saying its not possible because no one has tried? What about an officer arresting an officer. It has been known that off duty officers come to the protest when they are not on the clock and support the movement.
You will get charged with assaulting an officer and get the shit beaten out of you.
With any luck.
not if 300 people behind me are making and thinking the same thing. the law says it must be a crimial act. have witnesses and documented. I think that pretty much is all covered in NYC right now. there is documentation of police brutality you are allowed to act upon it. and if you see it occuring you have the right. And the camera and 200 witnesses have your back.
Please try it then. Just make sure you have someone video tape it so I can watch it on YouTube later. Thanks.
That's untrue. To arrest an officer, you'd have to remove their weapon. They will shoot you.
If you're LUCKY, just with a tazer.
This is just NOT a good plan.
Hopefully if he tries it someone at least gets a video for us to watch on Youtube.
I'm OWS and I'll tell you right now that if you try to take a police officer's firearm I want him to shoot you. That's not a fad that's going to fly.
A citizen's arrest is NOT nonviolence.
The law is not on your side like you think. The constitution is ignored by law makers lately. The courts would hammer you. Just saying. Good idea anyway
Then we need to use the loopholes they use are using and find a away. If you citizen arrest an officer then maybe just maybe you will put fear into them and not they are scared of the masses and start treating them differently. Use it for good, and justice, not abuse the right like they are.
I guess you could try it if you had a dozen witnesses and a video running. The courts just really side with the officers so that is a huge uphill battle. If the courts think you are a smart ass they will just not give you what you want. The courts are like a cult, you have bow down to the judge like he is a priest, actually the judges used to be priests in the middle ages and judged by authority of the church back then
you can't do that. The Police aren't breaking any laws. name the ones they are. Not free speech! Its privately owned land the police are getting you off someone's else's property not making you shut up!
I thought that this only worked on Andy Griffith.
WIth the force of properly gained authority, such is possible. In this situation, only article 5 of the US constitution can create the needed authority. It is our first and last right. If we do not use it now, all rights will be gone. Long live the Magna Carta! -----
Strategy for lawful and peaceful rebellion:) -
http://algoxy.com/ows/strategyofamerica.html
You can arrest a cop. Just tell him he is under arrest and grab his gun. If he refuses to surrender it force him. You will be rewarded.
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Ralinc You are right, a citizen can arrest a police officer. Everyone should arrest the first officer they see. Soon the city will remove all officers from the park. That's what we want, right? We can protect ourselves, we do not need the cops.
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