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Forum Post: Why do we call this a democracy?

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 29, 2011, 7:14 p.m. EST by cookiedestroyer (1) from Rice, MN
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when our choices have become democrat or republican, and both parties spout the same themes, and only those that are backed by major corporations get any publicity, where is the choice? When only those that have joined the family will be considered a serious candidate to rule the country we no longer live in a democracy we now live in a monarchy. So I ask if our politicians are hand picked by corporations that control them, and therefore a royalty is established Who will you vote for? the king or the queen?

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[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 12 years ago

Globalization is the greatest screw job of all time.

We Americans have bought that hook, line, and sinker. Nobody but me wants to refute that line of crap. Globalization is their trick word for slavery. If you ever want middle class jobs to make a decent living with benefits, I'm your only hope because I will clear that subject up.

Slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment. Stop all slave made imports under the constitution. Its that simple.

read more http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 12 years ago

If believe that both parties are same then I hope you figure out before you vote that they're not. The polarity which exists between the parties is more divisive then ever. The differences are stark.

The republicans have been incessant on giving those tax cuts to the rich. The democrats wanted to allow the unfunded Bush Tax cuts for the rich expire. The republicans strong armed democrats and kept those tax cuts in place so those wonderful Job creators can still create those jobs, just not here in the USA. The republicans won and the rich have rewarded once more.

How about Iraq, do you think the dems would have taken us there?

Last I heard we spent 1 trillion on that venture, and we're not done.

Party does matter I'm sure of it.

[-] 1 points by enough (587) 12 years ago

You make an excellent point. For all intents and purposes, our current form of government is more like a plutocracy than a democracy. It is no different from that practiced by the Medici in quattrocento Florence. The Florentines kidded themselves into believing they had a representative form of government back then. Americans are kidding themselves now believing we have a representative form of government. We do not. Elected officials are products of a duopoly that has a hammer lock on our government. Compounding the problem is the number of appointed officials that run our government on a day-to-day basis. Appointed officials and elected officials are not created equal, especially when the power assigned to appointees is as vast and unchecked as that of the Federal Reserve for example. Appointees are second derivative, twice removed from the electorate. When you see the same bureaucrats, like Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner, appointed and confirmed as Federal Reserve Chairman and Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, respectively, after they failed miserably to protect Americans from the predations of Wall Street, it tells you all you need to know.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 12 years ago

It is no longer a democracy,. or never was. We do however now have the opportunity now to build a democracy here,. I think we should.

[-] 1 points by unfleecedbysheep (153) 12 years ago

Presidents are civilians and do not rule, but manage. That is why it is called Executive branch. It is difficult to manage when blocked by special interests on all sides, on the other hand that is a convenient excuse. Dr. Paul has no loyalty to either party, but calls himself a republican because of it's historical meaning and the political debate that it enables him to engage in. His voting record stands alone when compared to all others. Other politician, whether democrats or republicans, are corporatist and are part of the problem that we have become victims of.

[-] 1 points by LSN45 (535) 12 years ago

The politicians framed the whole right vs. left thing and they love it. The love having the American people polarized into the stupid "home town football rivalry" that our politics have become. Meanwhile they, and all their friends and family, are laughing all the way to the bank (and changing all the laws in favor of the banks while they are at it). For decades now both the right and the left have been bought and paid for by corporations and special interests (including unions). The current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbyist have turned our "representatives" into the lap dogs of the corporations and special interests. What we need is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM if we want to break the cycle. It needs to be THE main goal of these protest!!! Other meaningful reforms will follow, but only if we get the money out now! The crony-capitalism/neo-feudalism we have right now will continue until we stop the corporations from using their money to "speak" as if they are representing millions of Americans.

[-] 1 points by cookiedestroyer (1) from Rice, MN 12 years ago

think about this, the republicans would rather impoverish the overtaxed poor further, by removing and reducing those government aid and subsidy programs that help reduce the burden they put on the poor, OVER asking the willing wealthy to pay an even share of their taxes just because they promised their wealthy backers they wouldn't raise their taxes.... so if they picked draining the paupers that are already struggling due to their mismanagement of our country instead of asking for fair contributions from the nobles in the "royal family" how is this better than medieval England?

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 12 years ago

http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

Americans are self destructive for a reason

When 99% of the entire country votes for candidates the voters all know have taken bribes that is self destructive. The bribes weren't paid to benefit the voters. That is a simple fact that the entire country of voters should all understand. The important answer that the entire country needs to grasp is that a powerful propaganda media broadcast system has put the entire country into a trance.

Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with being the victim of brainwashing. The most important piece of the brainwashing process is what is called being "politically correct". That is designed to make the victims docile. The politicians can and do say ridiculous nonsense but the victims' trance prevents them from addressing that nonsense or the lies being told. When Obama was called a liar during his State of the Union address Obama was protected by the "political correct" trance. Instead of thoughtfully discussing what Obama had lied about and blaming Obama for telling his lie, the congressman was forced to apologize.