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Forum Post: who rules america by domhoff

Posted 3 months ago on April 15, 2014, 8:47 a.m. EST by flip (5433)
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a interesting video updating his excellent book from 1967 - pointing out the power behind the throne. why both parties serve the same masters - http://zcomm.org/zvideo/who-rules-america-today/

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[-] 3 points by JGriff99mph (507) 3 months ago

Occupy helped to wake people up, and gave those who got it a real platform to organize and meet others, on a 24/7 basis. That was probably one of the best things that came out of it.

[-] 2 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

we agree as usual - it's almost like talking to myself!

[-] 0 points by nazihunter (318) 3 months ago

you are talking to yourself! lol! you are so funny. Is it bipolar disorder. just say so and I'll leave you alone.

[-] 0 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

yes it is - now are you a man of your word?? are you a man at all? either way now will you leave me alone?

[-] 2 points by nazihunter (318) 3 months ago

OK. Let's say our prayers: Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.

[-] 0 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

you said - just say so and I'll leave you alone. - seems you lied

[-] 1 points by nazihunter (318) 3 months ago

Really? That would explain a whole lot. OK. Now I'll leave you alone.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.

Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.*Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.*Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.Red State, full of hate, The fraud art with thee Wretched art thou Among Humans, And your rotten apples don't fall far from the tree.

[-] 1 points by nazihunter (318) 3 months ago

You're sins are absolved. I'd say go in peace, but the high priests are still looking to crucify us in November.

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[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Questioning the guys manhood?

That's low, even for you.

Did you notice I've been posting the actual names of today's plutocrats?

Today, mind you, not stuff from decades ago, although I could.

Or are you still going.......

na, na, na, na, na, I can't hear you!

I could type louder, just for your benefit.

[-] 1 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

type louder

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Can you hear me now?

Hey?

How about addressing Sanders' list as it applies to your home State?

It would give you a few clues as to who is running the country these, post "citizens united" days.

'67', is so yesterday. Fun, but long gone.

Gotta keep up with the times, you know.

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[-] 0 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

nope

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Scared?

Yep. Who woulda thunk it.

So how's the plagiarizing business doing these days?

I know you've been plagiarizing plenty, again.

That's a very scary list, isn't it?

It's why you and the trolls, have such a hard time dealing with it.

It adds a level of reality to your "duopoly" theory that you're uncomfortable with.

It is frightening to realize just how many points in that platform have become institutionalized.

So I guess you just have to look away.

That's a shame.

[-] 1 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

I am scared

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

you plagiarized someone? I never would have guessed. I mean, you are obviously a bright boy. It can't be that hard to either come up with original material all on your own or failing that, provide credit to those whose words you use . . .

what made you do it?

[-] 2 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

just another lie from the man who removes comments for no reason - the guy who lets you say the most vile shit (and also really childish and stupid things) and then removes things that must hit a bit too close to home. a sign of weakness? must be right - typical bully mentality - do you think this will be removed - do you? gotta go man - hockey games coming on - lots of them!

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[-] -3 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

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[+] -5 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Really flip? You're going to insult me by lying about me to someone else?

Yes flip, you've been plagiarizing , again.

In your rambling argument with the anti-nazi guy, you copy and pasted stuff that still had the reference numbers in the text. It was pretty obvious.

You provided NO link to the actual author. Thus you plagiarized it.

In a volume that could only be consider as a Gish gallop.

so please, don't lie about me.

You are a blatant plagiarist.

[-] 1 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

haven't lied about you and I should insult you but I don't think that is possible. and that is not plagiarism - look up the definition - then read the rules. then do your job

[-] -3 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Yes flip, plagiary is a form of lie, and calling me a liar for pointing out your plagiarism is an insult and yet another lie.

A lie is a lie, no matter how many trolls disagree.

lying is bad for your karma, flip.

You should stop doing that.

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[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 3 months ago

Why are some people allowed to say whatever they want, slander the living hell out of people, call them this that and the other thing, and label them all sorts of things....

And others are not?

To me, that is the biggest lie of them all.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

are you flips puppet, or is he yours?

You should address the list.

He plagiarized. It's that simple. Unless you actually have something to say on that subject, I suggest you take your attempt at creating another soap opera elsewhere.

Your constant return as yet another puppet is lie you have yet to talk about, so stuff it.

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[-] -3 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago
[-] 1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Don't forget good old Pete Peterson.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Peter_Peterson

[-] 1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Today, it's the guys who wrote this.

https://occupywallst.org/forum/how-many-of-these-do-you-support/

You failed to notice. So one must ask, how many of these are instituted or in process in Missouri?

[-] 0 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Don't forget your good buddy Glenn!!

He may not be a full on oligach yet, but he's definitely among the plutocrats.

And so quotable.......................LOL at least by you.

http://www.thevileplutocrat.com/bile/profile/glenn-beck/

And don't forget some of his other quotable assininity.

http://www.thevileplutocrat.com/bile/articles/glenn-beck-is-a-cancer/

No wonder you brought his quotes to the fore. I'd finally managed to forget what absolute asshole the guy is.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

bwaaaaaaaa hahahaa

that is funny. I mean, it's not, but it is, and exactly what is necessary - it really needs to go main stream, so the fukers on the guillotine list can hear their names whispered in public and in connection with this list and its principle icon - the guillotine.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

It's got a link for ye olde Shoe comic too.

Funny stuff!

It's a truly great site, that deserves some more hits.

I've been considering asking for a vile plutocrat T shirt for my birthday.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

it does indeed look stylish and happenin

[-] 0 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Don't forget the pauper among the Koch's.

Only $4,000,000,000?

What a loser.

http://www.thevileplutocrat.com/bile/profile/william-koch/

[-] 0 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

This guy bought a pretty big chunk of us, for his own twisted aims, I would imagine.

http://www.thevileplutocrat.com/bile/profile/art-pope/

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

o that just makes me sick I can't read anymore 5th highest unemployment in the nation and 75% of the spending in 2010 elections I just can't stand it somebodypleaseshootthisfuker

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

James Arthur "Art" Pope (born May 5, 1956) is a North Carolina politician, businessman, attorney and philanthropist.

!! and philanthropist. !! who knew - or would even have guessed . . .

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

oo that's the guy from NC isn't it - where they won't allow any discussion of sea level rise above an inch . . .

LoL!

We really need to pass a bill stipulating no federal buyouts for NC coastal property owners. IF they want to bury their heads in the sand, let 'em.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

That's libe(R)topian philanthropy for you.

Maybe he meant philatelist?

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

sure that's it and one more reason to kill the post office - he has an investment to think of

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

How come flip isn't helping us out with naming the names?

He did start this thread.

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

obviously naming names runs completely contrary to his central thesis which is

  • same same | don't look | don't vote | same same
[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

I thought that's what this thread was for?

That was the question.

I've named a few names, but no response.

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

I did find this graphical representation for JP Morgan associations and it came from a website for anyone who wants to take notes - http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/corporate_community.html

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

That's a hell of a list. Talk about revolving doors, no wonder they all want a business man to "lead" government.

It would make it just like the boardrooms.

I do confess to being a bit confused by Ford's ties to Estee Lauder though.

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

you look at that matrix of relationships and it is just a bit dizzying.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

well, you know, maybe the cat's got his flipper

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

shouldn't the question be.....Who rules the world?

http://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressrelease/2014-01-20/rigged-rules-mean-economic-growth-increasingly-winner-takes-all-for-rich-elites

That 85, worldwide, is down to some 67, since this study was done.

that's worldwide.

It takes a philosophy to do that, not any single country, no matter what you think.

That philosophy, is based on the works of Ayn Rand.

[-] 1 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

agreed - but we can influence our government (in theory anyway!) not that of china etc so we should be most concerned with those here who work the golden rule to keep their gold and power. where we disagree is that i am most concerned with the respectable men - often at the "liberal" end of our (center - right) political spectrum. not sure why that is so annoying to you - we agree that the Koch bros and the libertarian (and Christian and military) right are crazy. if i were you i would work to get ted cruz the gop nomination since it would guarantee a democratic victory in2016. i won't go into why i feel the way i do since you don't seem to want a real discussion on the subject. and i cannot find the comment you are responding to - did you remove it?? no go on - call me names and do your thing - don't worry - i can take it

[-] 2 points by JGriff99mph (507) 3 months ago

Its hysterical we have someone on here who used to openly endorse that list, now trolling all over demanding everyone else address it.

What a train wreck.

[-] 3 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

not sure exactly what you mean by that. and what do you think all those removed comments said?? they must have been pretty terrible judging by what is allowed

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[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Then forget your fear, read the list and understand what's actually happening, no?

So sorry that you've lost your way in the tread, as well.

There is only ONE comment in this entire thread that I blocked.

The rest are auto blocked comments from trolls.

Nasty shit too.

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[-] -2 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Please read the list.

It can be applied worldwide.

https://occupywallst.org/forum/how-many-of-these-do-you-support/

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[-] -1 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

don't need or like lists - but you did not really respond to what i said - shouldn't you? isn't that one of the rules - aren't you the high priest and rule keeper here?

[-] -2 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

WTF????

Just respond to the list.

Is it really that difficult?

The list will show you without a doubt, who's ruling.

It will show you who's getting their "way".

and enough with the insults. It's non productive and boring as hell anymore.

Fact is, it's the same shit I've read here from trolls, since before I became a mod.

[-] 2 points by flip (5433) 3 months ago

no insults in my response - my but you are sensitive! as I said I don't need or like lists. I will respond to your request when you respond to mine - and there are many on the table. fair enough? sorry to bore you.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

Yeah, that was an unequivocal attempt at insult.

I'm not speaking to you as mod......yet

And please. don't give me that "I asked you first", childish bullshit.

It's fucking tiresome, and it's a troll tactic.

so just just respond to that VERY important list.

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[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Isn't it axiomatic? Sacrifice of the one for the good of the many?

How about sacrifice of the one hundred for the good of all?

[-] -1 points by shooz (17751) 3 months ago

It's only axiomatic in books and movies.

In life, it's the sacrifice of the many, for the good of the one.

And as for the one?

Well, benevolent dictators are pretty rare and short lived.

It's why to be successful, Occupy MUST execute coordinated operations world wide, or they will just scurry around to each others ivory towers, much like they do today with offshore accounting practices.

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13199) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

r they will just scurry

oo, now see? That sounds like fun. With the right kind of planning and preparation, we could potentially turn this into a spectator sport and even sell tickets.

Kinda like Running Man only different.