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Forum Post: Where McDonald's Wages Start Near $15 An Hour

Posted 10 years ago on Aug. 7, 2013, 12:25 p.m. EST by LeoYo (5909)
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Where McDonald's wages start near $15 an hour

http://money.msn.com/now/post--where-mcdonalds-wages-start-at-dollar15-an-hour

The fast-food chain already pays Australians what striking US workers want. It just requires some business adjustments and buy-in from consumers.

By Jason Notte 5 hours ago

Scoff at striking fast-food workers' demands for $15 an hour all you'd like, but one chain is already paying that relatively high minimum wage.

Is it a boutique burger joint in Michigan or Oregon that serves up $5 sandwiches? Nope. It's a tiny little outfit that calls itself McDonald's (MCD -0.12%), and it still turns a tidy profit in high-wage countries around the globe despite paying workers almost double what it pays American staffers.

The Atlantic reports that not only does McDonald's pay its Australian workers the equivalent of $14.50 an hour -- or double the U.S. minimum wage -- but Australia's Fair Work Commission just hammered out a deal between the company and its employees that guarantees workers up to a 15% raise by 2017. That's in a country where most McDonald's workers are already making more than the minimum to begin with.

That should confirm the fears of Americans already cautious about what a Big Mac would cost if worker wages increased, right? After all, that stack of beef patties, sauce, cheese, lettuce, onions, pickles and bread costs more than $1 extra in Western Europe, where McDonald's has to pay workers in France a $12 minimum wage, according to The New York Times.

In truth, McDonald's only wishes its fortunes were as great in the U.S. as they are in Europe. It earns far more revenue there than it does here, despite wages in Europe accounting for roughly 45% of the cost of its food, compared with 25% to 35% in the U.S. In Australia, meanwhile, customers are paying 6 cents to 70 cents extra per Big Mac.

So how does McDonald's survive in such high-wage environments? Much like in the U.S., it plays the game. In Australia, minimum wage for 16-year-old workers is only $8, which gives McDonald's incentive to higher younger workers. It also squeezes more productivity out of workers and does away with little redundancies like cashiers, who are replaced in certain instances by touchscreens.

More significant, however, McDonald's can't just contently exist as a low-end feeding trough in these countries. With higher prices come higher expectations, which is why Australians were getting McCafe and espresso in 1993 while Americans were chowing down on Dino-sized Quarter Pounders that were just Double Quarter Pounders with a Jurassic Park movie tie-in.

McDonald's can pay its American workers the same wage as their foreign counterparts. It just has to hope that the same American consumers who shunned espresso, wraps and Angus burgers and prompted the company to consider all-day breakfast will change their minds and help pick up the tab.

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[-] 6 points by Maggie22 (107) 10 years ago

Costco pays just over $20 an hour, still makes a good profit and finds its employees are more loyal and better workers.

[-] 2 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

as an american i think i am qualified to say americans are dumb as dirt. they can't connect the dots worth a shit.

[-] 5 points by Maggie22 (107) 10 years ago

But we can't stop trying to show them there is a better way.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

you can waste your life i am not wasting mine.

[-] 2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Each one teach one

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

feel free to waste your time. i think we will get more people by simply leading by example.

[-] 0 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Some are so dumb they can only get into engineering school in TN. TN, for fuck's sake. No wonder we are speeding downhill.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

probably better than engineering school in china or india, just guessing.

[-] 1 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Oh, sure, of course. I mean, what the hell have Asians ever built? TN is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better,

[-] 0 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

It finally shows up at #36. Promise I won't tell Narley, but TX is all over TN here. What a beating.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

you are dumb.

[-] -1 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

be humble, be positive, be happy

bonus, doing that will help you with girls of jart's caliber, especially as you get older

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

don't make me laugh.

[-] -1 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Otherwise it's GFriday night, every night. Shudder.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

How's Tor working out for you?

[-] -1 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Fine, I guess. How's two for one shots at the crabshack next to your trailer park working out for you?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

[-] -3 points by synesthesia (-6) 12 minutes ago

Sorry, I just noticed this. I was busy taking on two people at once (don't worry, I totally kicked both their asses). You had to look up synesthesia didn't you? It's ok, not many people read enough to know about it. They discovered\triggered mine back when they were scanning my brain for greed. Don't worry, I passed the greed test. Turns out that test doesn't even exist and the doctor who ordered it was a total nutcase, but at least i get to smell color now. yum! ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


You just fail repeatedly. Because your'e a right wing piece of shit crackhead cockroach.

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[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

lol You pathetic multiple ID cockroach. Just be the right wing hillbilly trash you are. You don't need 99 IDs. If you need more than one ID--you don't have a message.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

It almost has it's dysfunction username correct.

Ideasthesia (alternative spelling ideaesthesia) is defined as a phenomenon in which activations of concepts (inducers) evoke perception-like experiences (concurrents). The name comes from Greek, “idea”+”aisthesis”, meaning sensing concepts or sensing ideas.[1] The main reason for introducing the notion of ideaesthesia was the empirical evidence indicating that the related term synesthesia (i.e. union of senses) suggests incorrect explanation of a set of phenomena traditionally covered by this heading. “Syn”+”aesthesis” denoting “co-perceiving”, implies the association of two sensory elements with little connection to the cognitive level. However, most phenomena that have inadvertently been linked to synesthesia, in fact are induced by the semantic representations i.e., the meaning, of the stimulus [2][3][4][5] rather than by its sensory properties, as would be implied by the term synesthesia. The following table shows the difference in the properties of inducers and concurrents implied by the terms synesthesia and ideasthesia:

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

It's 100% dysfunctional.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

LOL You said union.

prepare to be attacked.

[-] -2 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Sorry, I just noticed this. I was busy taking on two people at once (don't worry, I totally kicked both their asses). You had to look up synesthesia didn't you? It's ok, not many people read enough to know about it. They discovered\triggered mine back when they were scanning my brain for greed. Don't worry, I passed the greed test. Turns out that test doesn't even exist and the doctor who ordered it was a total nutcase, but at least i get to smell color now. yum!

[-] -1 points by synesthesia (-38) 10 years ago

Just one id as always, but speaking of having a message, can you repeat the Tor line one more time. It just gets funnier, every single time (like you need me to tell you that). Go go Fribot!

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

The Chris Wanker Koch Whore Club is active tonight.

And you smell, too.

[-] -2 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

ha ha ha that was pretty good.

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[-] -3 points by Narley (272) 10 years ago

You're not qualified to say that. On the whole Americans are among the most intelligent and rational people of earth. You seem to base your views of the world on your emotions.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

i base them on the people i talk to like you.

[-] 1 points by ladisia (-44) 10 years ago

"So how does McDonald's survive in such high-wage environments? Much like in the U.S., it plays the game. In Australia, minimum wage for 16-year-old workers is only $8, which gives McDonald's incentive to higher younger workers. It also squeezes more productivity out of workers and does away with little redundancies like cashiers, who are replaced in certain instances by touchscreens. "

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