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Forum Post: We need to help Obama win and here is how. You will agree?

Posted 12 years ago on Feb. 15, 2012, 4:47 p.m. EST by FreeDiscussion4 (70)
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Bloomberg - President Barack Obama will return to New York on March 1 for a fundraiser with investment bankers and hedge fund managers, according to a campaign invitation, marking his first high dollar event there since calling for increased taxes on the wealthy in his 2013 budget.

Hosts of the fundraiser, including Ralph Schlosstein, chief executive officer at Evercore Partners Inc., and his wife, Jane Hartley, co-founder of the economic and political advisory firm Observatory Group LLC, were assured last week by Jim Messina, Obama’s campaign manager, that the president would not demonize Wall Street in his re-election.

The $35,800-per-person dinner at ABC Kitchen, the first of the evening’s four fund-raising events, is being hosted by many of Obama’s top Wall Street donors, according to a person familiar with the matter. Sponsors include Blair W. Effron, partner and co-founder of Centerview Partners LLP; Marc Lasry, managing partner and founder of Avenue Capital Group; Mark Gallogly, a managing principal of Centerbridge Partners; James Rubin, managing director of BC Partners; Robert Wolf, UBS AG’s chairman for the Americas; and Antonio Weiss, global head of investment banking at Lazard Ltd.

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[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

The dumbass GOP candidates will be the reason Obama wins.

I swear the GOP is so fucking stupid it has to be a conspiracy to get Obama re-elected.

First of all Romney flip-flops so much that he could play the dolphin on Flipper.

Santorum's entire platform is based on violating the first amendment in the constitution. His goal is to change our laws to respect his establishment of his religion. Which is completely unconstitutional.

And Mitt Santorum are the front runners? What a fuckin' joke.

I do not support Obama, and I sure as fuck don't support the GOP. Mitt Santorum will be the reason Obama wins.

[-] 3 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

I agree. What a bunch of ass wipes the GOP have for candidates. Palin and Trump would stand a better chance of beating Obama than what they have now.

[-] 1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I'm a CONSERVATIVE,,, and hate to say that I sort of agree with you. Four more years of a liberal AGENDA will look like a groundhogs day for what is happening in Greece.

[-] 5 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

What liberal agenda?????

I haven't seen one in many years, and it is the "conservative" agenda that has us where we are.

[-] 2 points by craigdangit (326) 12 years ago

You notice the liberals say all the politicians are conservative and the conservatives say all the politicians are liberal?

What we have here is not a left/right spectrum but an authoritarian/libertarian spectrum. Nearly all of the politicians in washington are authoritarian.

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Exactly.

I've said it before, so I'll say it once more.

Our political system has been infiltrated by the libe(R)tarian agenda.

It's much more evident on the (R)epelican't side, but it exists among the Dems too.

[-] -2 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Where is the liberal agenda? There is a recent news story,,, maybe you havent read about it yet. There is a $15 TRILLION DOLLAR LIBERAL DEBT!!!!!!!!! The one that the LIBERAL AGENDA democrats want to raise and raise and raise the debt. Yep,,, THAT liberal agenda. (what conservative wants to raise the debt?)

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

As if they were any liberals in Washington. All this crap started with Reagan, who lowered taxes on the rich and tripled the national debt.

You are literally too stupid to insult. Go stick your head back up Limbaugh's ass.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I thought we had a balance budget under Clinton? No?

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

Obama is not a liberal agenda. Obama is a phony.

This video describes Obama's presidency and my opinion change from the start of his campaign to now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTEqHxh3fI

although I was rooting for Kucinich the entire time, but I did end up voting Obama. I should have voted 3rd party, But I had no idea Obama would turn out to be such a phony. Still glad Palin didn't win though. God she was an embarrASSment.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Who "owns" that debt, is highly debatable.

So that's a wash. What else you got?

In fact most of it went to nonproductive "conservative" causes, like banks and WallStreet.

[-] -2 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

It may be that that's the case now but you can be sure if the Obimination stays in office you will see at least another 3 trillion in debt before he leaves office.

His recent budget wanted to jack the debt to 4.8 trillion - how about we lower the debt by 4.8 trillion instead.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

How about we start raising revenue, from the 1% who are benefiting from the deficit.

That's the same 1% who crashed it by gambling, and got bailed out in the first place.

No one had a serious problem with any of this until they crashed it, or did you fail to notice that?

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Lets do this - lets take all the profits away from the 1% then what. Where will you get your government benefits from then?

The 1% are only a portion of the entire economy - if you took away all their money and gave it to the everyone else it would only last for 285 days.

Why don't you and others stop blaming the 1% and become part of the 1%. First you have to know how to do it and it isn't going to happen within 1 year just because you may have a college degree.

It takes more like 20 years to become successful and own what you want. Think about that comment.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

So you did fail to notice it, and then you comment in the extreme.

Shall I consider you an extremist? If so, what type do you feel you are?

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

No, I'm only commenting on the way people think about the 1% instead of going out to earn their own wealth.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

No. What you did, was attempt to change the subject, based purely on assumption, and then injected a libe(R)tarian talking point.

How is that useful?

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

So tell me what did I assume?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

It would be easier to try and figure out what you didn't assume.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

I guess you are right my asumption about how todays society thinks regarding the 1% must be wrong.

[-] 1 points by JIFFYSQUID92 (-994) from Portland, OR 12 years ago

The REAL question is: What Con HASN'T raised the debt? And ruined the economy? Hoover to W!!!!???? Who do you think you're conning?

Since fucking RayGun (who turned us from a creditor nation into a debtor nation) our debt has exploded. Conned!

If the Con "AGENDA" was so great, we'd all be wealthy. Instead of the criminal transference of our wealth to the top 1%. Conned!

After 30+ years of being plagued by the Con Agenda, if we didn't have the safety nets FDR and the "LIBERAL AGENDA" put in place we'd be in The GREATEST Con Depression Ever! And probably another civil war.

Con Agenda! Con Media! Con Depression! We've been Conned!!

America has a Con PROBLEM!

Unite and Win! Unite and Win! 2010 Never EVER Again!!

Image and Vote! Image and Vote! "We the 1%" NOT What They Wrote!!

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

If I had a personal debt of $1,000 and I raise the debt by 1 penny, I raised the debt. If I raised the debt by $3 TRILLION,,, I raised the debt. The democRATS (RATS) force the debt to be raised because they have all the "suckers" believing that mother government is there to help. Mother government is a whore and doesnt care. The RATS agenda can ONLY HAVE POWER if there are poor. Without poor there would be no RATS.

[-] 0 points by JIFFYSQUID92 (-994) from Portland, OR 12 years ago

The REAL question is: What Con HASN'T raised the debt? And ruined the economy? Hoover to W!!!!???? Who do you think you're conning?

Since fucking RayGun (who turned us from a creditor nation into a debtor nation) our debt has exploded. Conned!

If the Con "AGENDA" was so great, we'd all be wealthy. Instead of the criminal transference of our wealth to the top 1%. Conned!

After 30+ years of being plagued by the Con Agenda, if we didn't have the safety nets FDR and the "LIBERAL AGENDA" put in place we'd be in The GREATEST Con Depression Ever! And probably another civil war.

Con Agenda! Con Media! Con Depression! We've been Conned!!

America has a Con PROBLEM! Reality proves it! Check it out.

Unite and Win! Unite and Win! 2010 Never EVER Again!!

Image and Vote! Image and Vote! "We the 1%" NOT What They Wrote!!

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[-] -3 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

shooz is kind of slow. he forgot that Obama has been in power for almost 4 years, with a full Democratic Congress for two of those years . Unless he thinks that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are conservative.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Still can't answer the simplest of questions, can you son?

Still stuck on the FLAKESnews talking points.

I have some news for you........FLAKESnews lies!!!!

About almost everything.

[-] -1 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

what was the question? the thread got out of order

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

As with most of them. It was one you can't answer anyway.

C'est la vie.

[-] -2 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

i think that you don't even know what you asked.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Your first mistake is in assuming you can think at all.

My mistake was assuming you knew what you were responding to.

Silly of me, I know.

[-] -2 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

don't quit your day job to be a comedian. adios

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

I don't have to worry about that. You should find one.

Although an education should come first.

Aita pe'ape'a.

[-] 0 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

its always a sign of insecurity when one uses a foreign language in their text. if you can't handle English well, why victimize other languages?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

The actual insecurity comes from criticizing when someone else does, what you just did.

I'd work on that education thing, if I were you.

[-] 0 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

so when you criticize me , i can't criticize you back? And let's say i am 'uneducated' . You are a liberal , an occupier fan, shouldn't i be celebrated and embraced by occupiers like you then? i'm one of the victims of the 1%, one of the oppressed? Do you smell hypocrisy?

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

In your comments? You bet! What are you doing here if you don't believe in the Occupy movement?

1 points by tomahawk99 (-13) 10 minutes ago

so when you criticize me , i can't criticize you back? And let's say i am 'uneducated' . You are a liberal , an occupier fan, shouldn't i be celebrated and embraced by occupiers like you then? i'm one of the victims of the 1%, one of the oppressed? Do you smell hypocrisy? ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink

Hypocrite.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

What you apparently fail to understand or won't admit, is that the positive things which kept us from going into a full blown depression were enacted in those 1st two years.

So keep digging you hole tomahawk99 (-2). It is a long way to China.

[-] 1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

If those things that you say are so positive why are there millions of people out of work? It's going to take another 8 years to get the unemployment rate back down to 4%.

The GDP is hoovering around 2.5% and that isn't going to change anytime soon. So, tell me where is all the "positive things".

Go to the unemployment lines and ask those people or ask the millions who have lost their homes. He preached change and people got change - that's whats left in their pockets and nothing more.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Again don't discount the damage done prior to Obama taking office. Don't discount the affect of having a major portion of the middle class living paycheck to paycheck due to unequivelant pay prior to the meltdown, and currently to this day. If you have a weak payroll economy you do not have strength and flexibility. You have a dive towards the bottom when something goes wrong because there is no flex there is no economic reserve. The people in the unemployment lines are the ones who most certainly know that the current system is not in their favor, except for extended unemployment benefits.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Why then is it that at least 70% of the working class are doing just fine and are paying their bills.

I have never had a problem paying my bills over the last 8 years why do you think that is so? And I don't have a college degree but yet own my own house, own 3 vehicles, 2 boats and a motercycle - and I am not part of the 1%.

Think maybe it was because I managed to make myself employable by being "multi-tasked" instead of just being satisfied with knowing how to do just one job like a lot of people do?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

If (if) what you say is true, then consider yourself to be fortunate. Your circumstances and experiences are not standard. Many people are still losing their homes today, and it would take a minor blip in the economy compared to the original meltdown to see many more made homeless.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 12 years ago

Why is it not a "standard"? Too many people think they should have everything right now instead of having to wait while they work for it. I built up my wealth gradually, not "instantaneously" like most people think that's the way it should be.

That's the reason our economy is in the dumps, people are into debt up to their eyeballs and are now expecting the government to bail them out.

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[-] 0 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

I support the occupy movement, it has some good points, but i don't like the extreme wings that hate, push violence, and don't want to listen to others.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I see you are making progress on that hole of yours. Yesterday you were (-2) today (-13). Not a whole lot of progress, but you are moving in your chosen direction. Good for you. Stick to your guns.

BTY : no one here who is a supporter of Occupy or the 99% pushes violence. True supporters ( not attackers from the status-quo ) support peaceful protest and action.

[-] 1 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

Good for you, i'm glad that you aren't violent or some crazy anarchist or communist. Now if you could improve on your writing , this digging a hole thing is really silly and makes you look stupid as you offer no arguments to defend anything you say or debate anything i say.
You should be happy anyway looks like i'm shovel ready with my digging, just like your Obama told us to be.

[-] -2 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

we are still in a recession after 4 years with a huge government deficit. 'Things could be worse' attitude straight from Obama. Plus a lot of the bailouts started with Bush.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

The last two years with a stonewalled Congress. Blocked from moving forward by some very visible members of Congress. This is exactly why we are here. We are here fighting to return government to the people for which it was created.

[+] -4 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

Obama's talking points? everything would be fine if it weren't for those pesky republicans in the House (Senate is Democrat). Obama had both houses for two years and chose to spend it on the worthless obamacare. Exactly what do you mean by 'moving forward'? i.e. exactly what legislation was blocked that was going to solve all of our problems?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Oh gimme a break. Go blind march in support of the corrupt somewhere else, where you might have a more receptive audience, say like in your fantasies.

[+] -4 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

Loser. Can't even debate, just take stuff from white house talking points.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Mouthpiece for the corrupt. Go play with yourself.

[+] -4 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

Vulgarity, a sign of low iq

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

I guess that "would" be your opinion, because if you act like this normally you must receive a lot of it. Well whatever you need to do to feel good about yourself while you go around denying the truth. I mean it must be lonely being a hole digger and all.

[-] -3 points by tomahawk99 (-26) 12 years ago

What is the truth? You don't even know what legislation was blocked.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

One real easy one comes to mind - Blocking the passing of a tax cut for the working class while letting the rich tax benefits lapse. You know allowing proper taxation of the wealthy while giving a break to the needy. Ring any bells?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

Easily one of the worst elections in American history, in my opinion. Although Al Gore vs GW Bush was really fucked up.

Obama is not a liberal. A real liberal would be speaking out against the bullshit. A real liberal wouldn't appoint Monsanto to the FDA. A real liberal wouldn't be getting law suits filed against their administration by the ACLU for war crimes. A real liberal wouldn't violate the constitution or even the war power's resolution and bypass the congress to go to war. A real liberal wouldn't have supported the bailouts instead of looking for a real solution. A real liberal wouldn't continue the Bush war legacy. A real liberal uses diplomacy over aggression and war tactics. A real liberal is not Obama. Obama is a centrist. A real liberal wouldn't have a Wall Street lobbyist as their campaign manager.

If Obama was a real liberal he'd be saying things like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1dkZShYP78

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimTs6Q_xD0

Men like Dennis are true liberals. Anyone else is just a phony trying to push forward the "1%'s" agenda. Most people voting for Obama is voting for him just because they really hate the GOP. That's because the only thing worse than Obama is a GOP president. If conservatives were smarter, Ron Paul would be leading the boards over Mitt Santorum. I disagree with a lot of aspects of Paul's platform, but he's not a phony like Mitt Santorum.

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

what does conservative mean? and GW bush was "conservative" with his medicare part D, drunk sailor spending on stupid things like wars, creating DHS--so shut up with that tired old irrelevant dichotomy--it never meant anything. i understand for stupid sheeple, it makes life simple when you are propagandized by MSM into thinking the world is black or white, D or R--but it's not reality.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I thought CHANGE meant not doing what Bush did???? Yet you bring up Bush as if he was still the president.

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

i agree obama has failed to deliver... but he's the only person running who will not completely destroy the country.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

"obama has failed" you say. "the only one who will not destroy the country", you say. WOW,,,, sounds like you love failure.

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[-] -2 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 12 years ago

Sadly, Santorum looks better to me than Obama because at least he is against the NDAA.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

No one in a sweater vest can look better than anyone.

[-] 3 points by tbuontempo (194) from Jersey City, NJ 12 years ago

No, we as a Movement should stay out of electoral politics. We have nothing to gain, and expose ourselves, in our developmental phase, to co- option. Capitalism is a violent revolutionary ideology. We must stay out of it and build a Working Class Movement on our own separate foundation.

Give to Caesar what is Caesar, and then Occupy everything else.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Capitalism is BAD. I suggest everyone get rid of their Apple, Dell computers and Iphones,,,,, TODAY.. Show them how much tbuontempo in NJ cares.

[-] 1 points by tbuontempo (194) from Jersey City, NJ 12 years ago

Why would someone get rid of their computer?

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[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 12 years ago

It doesn't matter who wins the election.

[-] 2 points by Skippy2 (485) 12 years ago

Vote out All Incumbents. Incuding Obama. He is bought and paid for by big Corps and Wall st.

[-] 1 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 12 years ago

I have a very good rep, Martin Heinrich, who will be running for the senate this year and he has my support. It is stupid to vote out good incumbents.

[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

With an approval rating of 10% how can you find one?

[-] 1 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 12 years ago

Well, I give congress overall a low approval rating too, even though I approve of my representative's performance. I wish there were more like him.

[-] -3 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Vote against a liberal agenda that reflects what is happening in Greece as we watch. Liberalism is the cancer of this world.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

What you're seeing is not liberalism. Austerity measures are the opposite of a real liberal agenda. Like I said, the current administration is not a liberal agenda.

HR 2990 is a liberal agenda and it abolishes the federal reserve and aims to create a full employment economy.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Austerity is the measure taken to counter what liberalism has done. CUTS,, is what austerity does. Cuts to liberal agenda.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

It's going great in Greece eh?

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

You are correct, it is not going great in Greece thanks to liberalism and austerity is the cure. Other countries can live within their means,,, Greece will have to do it too. America is about to find out.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

Or we would just not let the banks have the power they have. We could stop wasting trillions on wars. We were doing fine until 1999 before the Financial Modernization Act passed, and before the Bush tax cuts, and before the wars. Those 3 things, are not liberal moves.

HR 2990 is the solution.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Really? Bush caused the problems in Greece? HR 2990 will solve the Greece liberal problem? You sure know a lot of Greece.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

We're talking about the USA and how not to end up in a similar situation as Greece, don't be childish.

Congress actually caused most of our problems as they are the people passing laws and tax codes. But it doesn't help when a president doesn't use his veto power for something that will put us in debt. And it also doesn't help when presidents violate the constitution or even the war powers resolution and get us involved in wars that we can't afford.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

violates the constitution? I thought Congress voted on October 16, 2002 to authorize the war on Iraq. What did they do on that day?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Everything I've mentioned includes the time frame of 1999 to the present, which includes Bush and Obama. Iraq was not a threat to the US in 2001 nor in 2002. That was all a lie. Iraq did not attack the US either. Libya was unconstitutional, and don't forget about all the war crimes committed under the Bush and Obama administrations.

[-] -2 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I didnt put any words in your mouth. I just took a look at a calendar. You said you were talking about 1999 to present. On my calenday, October 16, 2002 is,,,,,,,welll,,, in that area. And,,,, I think Congress,,,,, approved the war.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

You're hopeless. I was trying to have a real conversation with you. But it seems you want to dance around and waste time.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Dancing? I dont think I can put more facts in than I did. What part of facts do you think are dancing? You said Bush started an illegal war and all responded with was the date that proved YOU were wrong. What are you dancing to?

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

These four men REQUIRE that you vote for Obama

John Roberts +
Antonin Scalia +
Clarence Thomas +
Samuel Alito

If you don’t believe them,
…….ask Newt Gingrich or John McCain about Citizens United
OR
…….ask the family of any soldier killed in Iraq about bush v Gore

OR

Are you afraid to
……tell me why supreme court appointments make no difference ?


If you cannot see the difference between the democrats and the Rs –
.……and believe that President Gore would invade Iraq, or NOT read his PDBs –
…………..………………………………………………..you are blind


If you want to do what Davis & Lee failed to do
……………..……………………………………….…….you are crazy


[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

We need just ONE more law to straighten everything out! And here it is!

Any person occupying the public trust (Teachers, preachers, journalists, politicians; those who hold the trust of the public ear) who knowingly lie or mislead the public for any agenda will be considered a felon.

Please do not bombard me with first amendment rights. The first amendment only give you the right to speak...It does NOT convey the right to lie knowingly.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 12 years ago

I'd say lying to the public in this highly connected environment is tantamount to yelling fire in a crowded theater. But the press would probably argue that such a law would have a chilling effect on the journalists and the other publicly trusted people when they professionally speak to their fellow citizens. Everyone in those positions can argue that though the threat of felony, they would be forced to only parrot the official response. Now both arguments are extreme but Those would be the precedents that would apply, the crowded theater and the chilling effect. But i like it.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Tell that to FLAKESnews.

Where lying is the business of the day.

[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

The problem is that it is the business of the day for all those in the public trust. They lie with impunity. It is the source of all of our problems today.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Tell me about it, but it was FLAKESnews that sued to assure it's impunity from blatantly lying, in ways that sway the public away from the truth..

You decide.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Every politician, when elected, takes an oath to protect and uphold the constitution. Violation of the constitution is treason. Treason is a capital offense.

[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

Saying that is a long way from enforcing their oath. They lie. Admit it.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago

Are you stupid?

Since you are unable to connect the dots ... if elected officials violate their sworn oath to uphold and defend the constitution, they commit treason. Treason is a capital offense. A capital offense is punishable by death.

Voting for the NDAA (which allows indefinite detention of US citizens without reasonable cause or due process), or any other legislation that violates the constitution is a violation of their sworn oath.

Since 86 US Senators and 322 Representatives voted for the NDAA, I call for their immediate detainment (as authorized by the NDAA) and summary execution for treason.

[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 12 years ago

Oh, I connected the dots all right. But, as always, who will enforce this law?

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I sort of agree with you. With political figures there should be "some type" of contract that they sign with US. "If elected, I will stop, (what ever)" First, if you are a U.S. Rep or Senator, your vote is only as good as the majority vote. "If elected, I will (cut spending), (raise taxes)". Really,,,,,,, YOU have the power to do that,,,, dont think so. I dont like obama, but he said if elected his presidency would be the most transparent, he would sit down with those that hate us around the world and convince them that they should love us, solve the economy problems. He has done none. Bush had his failures,, just to clarify my point. I think they should sign a contract that says, "If I didnt do what I said,,,,, I'm NOT ALLOWED a second term even if I could run again." They all lie and we allow it. Journalists are the worse and distorting the truth.

[-] 1 points by Concerned (455) 12 years ago

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Yeah, let's help those Wall Streeter's re-elect their man.

[-] 0 points by Nordic (390) 12 years ago

No. Fuck Obama. He's nothing but a Republican in sheep's clothing.

To hell with Obama, to hell with the faux "Two Party System" which is really a One Party System.

Rise up, tear it down, start over.

New parties, new rules, wipe the slate CLEAN of all this Dempublican con job bullshit.

[-] -1 points by B76RT (-357) 12 years ago

Please,tell us what you really think.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

When "O" visits Wall Street on March 1 I hope all your OWS folks will be there to welcome him to the hood. (I cant make this crap up )

[-] 0 points by Spade2 (478) 12 years ago

Four more years! Four more years!

[-] 0 points by SpartacusTheSlave (60) from Las Vegas, NV 12 years ago

I voted for Obama in 2008. Why should I vote for the NDAA traitor again? The NDAA makes Obama a dictator, not a president. Presidents have legal limits. The NDAA erased those limits.

[-] 1 points by Nordic (390) 12 years ago

Fuckin right on!

[-] 0 points by SpartacusTheSlave (60) from Las Vegas, NV 12 years ago

Obama has been a Judas Goat for the military invasion of Iran all along. History is repeating. Obama is the new LBJ. LBJ distracted Americans with phoney civil rights laws while he invaded Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. Now Obama distracts Americans with meaningless issues like gay marriage, gay sex in the military, and amnesty for Mexican invaders, while he clears the chess board for a full scale invasion of Iran. You don't like that? Too bad slave. Shut up or Obama will kidnap you with the NDAA and send you to a secret prison in IRAN.

[-] -1 points by Brandon37 (372) 12 years ago

Sadly, OWS has been used by liberals to rally Obama support. And OWS does nothing about it. They are just letting it happen. Union paid trolls all over the net attacking anyone who is GOP or Christian. It is sad sad sad.

[-] 1 points by guru401 (228) 12 years ago

And what's amazing about it is that Obama accommodates Wall Street at every opportunity. He's everything that OWS supposedly rallies against. Yet, because he has a "D" next to him his name and not an "R", it's OK.

[-] -1 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 12 years ago

I do not want to see Obama re-elected.

I want a president that will provide the American people with The Truth and a real adherence to the Constitution.

I will be voting for Ron Paul in 2012, even if I have to write him again, like I did in 2008.

[-] 0 points by EndTheFED (65) 12 years ago

That makes two of us. I'm writing him in too.. Fuc Romney

[-] -2 points by hedleymnn (14) 12 years ago

I defy anyone to produce the name of a previous president who can better this record! Who said Obummer hasn't done anything?

An impressive list of accomplishments!

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.


First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.


First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .


First President to violate the War Powers Act.


First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .


First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.


First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.


First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.


First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.


First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.


First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.


First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.


First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.


First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present

. First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.


First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.


First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).


First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.


First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.


First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office

. First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.


First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.


First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy 'corpsman'.


First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.


First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.


First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.


First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.


First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

IN GOD WE TRUST

[-] -1 points by B76RT (-357) 12 years ago

Great Post !!!!! do any of the ows regulars support what this president has done ?

[-] 1 points by hedleymnn (14) 12 years ago

Not to many

[-] -1 points by jerseydevil (-11) 12 years ago

Excellent post,thanks.

[-] -1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Four more YEARS!!!!! (in 3 more years we will be asking Greece for help.)

[-] 1 points by hedleymnn (14) 12 years ago

If he gets another term we will be like Greece in less than three years

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

WTF? we ARE greece... we overspent, the bill's due and our pockets are empty. thank GW bush--who caused the first $8T debt and even said on TV that "debt doesn't matter, deficits don't matter"--he's the primary cause of this entire mess. obama continued wars that we couldn't get out of and save face, and he added to it trying to pull out of recession.

[-] 0 points by hedleymnn (14) 12 years ago

Obama added to the deficit by his failed policies, he is not a leader but worthless trash. The sad part is that there is not a candidate running that is any better than he is

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

absolutely... the sad thing is that the highly competent and productive successes are not drawn to the job--they'd never run.

[-] 1 points by hedleymnn (14) 12 years ago

Between you and me, I think they should all get kicked out, both sides of congress are useless. As far as the next President they should just have a reality show called "Who wants to be President" The average Joe on the street would probably do better that half of the current nitwits

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

OMG: great idea~!:):):) I'd support that.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Based on your comments,,, there is no doubt you are liberal,,, you think Bush spent like a liberal,,, so you like Bush.

[-] 2 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

my political views, unlike most peoples', transcend that silly, meaningless distinction since they are well-developed, highly sophisticated, and always right:) the last one is pure folly:). and no i hated every minute bush was in office.

[-] -2 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 12 years ago

Oh for..... You just don't get it. Just stop.

[-] 1 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

Your buddy is reaching out to Wall Street to get him re-elected. You MUST love that,,,,, right?

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

in no prior election since 1890 was wall street NOT a primary campaign contribution. it has basically always happened.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I know,,, but it MUST be different,,, seeing how much we HATE wall street. You MUST agree??????? You cant be a hypocrite,, can you???? We dont want him to get money from them,,,,, i thought.

[-] 1 points by ineptcongress (648) 12 years ago

for sure, but it's just not realistic... he would be at a terrible disadvantage,,, that said, i know they want him to make calls to the regulators like the SEC, CFTC, OCC, FED, etc... and tell them to draft new Dodd-Frank regs. that go easy on them--and they'll get their wish, and viola! nothing's fixed, and they can continue their capers stealing from us.

[-] 0 points by FreeDiscussion4 (70) 12 years ago

I guess I thought wrong. I thought if obama came to NY to raise money to support his agenda he would have raised all the money he needed by visiting all the OWS parks and getting his huge donations there. Wall Street,,,,,,,,,,, to raise money for re-election,,,,,,, you have got to be nuts to praise that.

[-] -3 points by JanitorInaDrum (134) 12 years ago

Get that phoney brotha out of the Whitehouse. Sonnabich ain't nevah done a days work in his Indonesian life.