Forum Post: Washington DC 9 News Now's Derrek McGinty: Let's Be Real: What's Next For The Occupy Movement
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 1, 2011, 10:32 p.m. EST by fjolsvit
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http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175170 Transcript: So, the Occupy movement continues. In fact, the members claim they're just getting warmed up. But at 2 months old and counting, the question remains: warmed up for what?
They know what they're mad about -- corporate greed, wealth inequality, and system that's not working well for a lot of us -- but ask the Occupy types what they want to do about these things, and the answers are not satisfying.
A spokesman told me and I quote-- "There's no one left to ask who can give us what we want...The occupation in and of itself....is a demand."
No, it's not...it's more like a tantrum. 'We're fired up..won't take no more!' Okay, what will you take? If you don't specifically ask for what you want...how will you even know if you're winning?
And here's the thing -- a lot of Americans are sympathetic to your complaints... that whole 99 percent thing resonates. On the other hand, 99 percent of us have...stuff to do, kids to raise.
Tearing down the whole system? Not an option 'cause then the subway stops running and these folks have to get to work. Occupy Wall Street and the rest of it got America's attention and captured the growing rage of the middle class... that's a victory. But if you want more, how do we get beyond camping out in the park?
Got any real ideas on how to fix this thing? Like Robert Redford said at the end of the classic movie "The Candidate" after winning an election he'd been guaranteed to lose -- "what do we do now?"
we demonstrate until we are 10 million strong- then we talk.
I find the lack of attention to this topic revealing as the the weakness of this movement.
In the meantime we must educate within and without. To me, demonstration is 10% addressing the government and 90% addressing the electorate.
In math "demonstration" means to expose the proof of a proposition (an assertion). So we should be asserting conclusions and providing the supporting facts and reasoning to demonstrate their correctness.
9/11 was an inside job!
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It's too late.
The country sees the "Occupy" encampments as nothing but a bunch of dirty and filthy rabble. A bunch of people who think they are "entitled" to a lot of things they never earned.
The country is correct in that observation.
The encampments have been crime laden and filth laden. Even camps with Port-A-Potties were filled with human waste and filth. The camps were filled with drugs. The camps were the scenes of many rapes and sexual assaults.
That is NOT how you bring about political change in this society or any society.
It is sad that there is no one person in OWS that seems to think that kind of behavior is problematic.
That's not what I saw at McPhereson Square.
You didn't see the whole country at McPhereson Square.
You saw local leftists and losers. That is what this movement consists of today.
The people who like to actually use indoor toilets have moved on.
You are clueless. Have you ever been to a home where there were no indoor toilets? That's where my people come from, and I am a prince of US high tech.
Yeah sure.
You are about as much a "prince of US high tech" as the OWS movement was princes of cleanliness and hygiene in their camps.
You are probably more like one of the buckets of urine and feces pulled out of all of their camps.
I see. You have an excretion fixation. Perhaps you should reexamine your relationship with your mother.
The entire OWS movement should reeaxamine their relationship with their parents.
Much of the OWS movement reveals a failure of parenting and of the educational system in this country.
My parents f'd everything up, except one thing. Be True.
It is not simply about raising awareness...but also about creating solutions
Raising awareness is the solution, to a large extent.
Unfortunately, I cannot raise your awareness to the level necessary to demonstrate this proposition. I cannot even mention names. But this names I would mention are of authors who were arrested in the US, by us authorities and deported to serve prison sentences for speaking the Truth. Try googling for "ICE deports German author".
All I was saying is that the movement is just about protesting or camping in parks...there are 1000s working on solutions and many beautiful things developing.
Of course raising awareness is important :-)
Working on solutions to what? Why do people go to prison in "Western Democracies" for telling the Truth as we know it?
solutions to social inequalities...social programs that take care of the people in our communities, open source technology,...
some people are focusing on the problem, some prefer to focus on the solutions...I believe the problem is a seed for the solution to grow out of
Please don't lecture me on open source technology. I have been working with and supporting the OS this site runs on for more than a decade. Sans funding.
The solution is to stop putting honest men in prison for telling the Truth. When you can work that one out in your mind, please let me know.
love and respect. was just answering your question... have a great night
Yack yack, Keep this thread alive and hold my homeboy's feet to the fire.
people need to stop seeing ows or the USA demonstrations, as a local thing, driven by local leaders. if one tries to perceive all the demonstrations that have taken place on earth in the past year- he will see a pattern - all the world wide demonstrations have a commonality. a thread -if you will, that runs thru all of them.
Right on!
In other words it is a spontaneous world wide opposition to the common threat inherent in the international banking cartel. That's somewhat over-simplistic, but close enough for a slogan.
One of the biggest problems is the MSM! They are owned by big money.
You mean al CIAda is behind them?