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Forum Post: Refusing to Acknowledge the Imperialists

Posted 1 year ago on Feb. 4, 2013, 3:28 a.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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"War is brutal and impersonal. It mocks the fantasy of individual heroism and the absurdity of utopian goals like democracy. In an instant, industrial warfare can kill dozens, even hundreds of people, who never see their attackers. The power of these industrial weapons is indiscriminate and staggering. They can take down apartment blocks in seconds, burying and crushing everyone inside. They can demolish villages and send tanks, planes and ships up in fiery blasts. The wounds, for those who survive, result in terrible burns, blindness, amputation and lifelong pain and trauma. No one returns the same from such warfare. And once these weapons are employed all talk of human rights is a farce."

"The nation embraces the dangerous delusion that we are on a providential mission to save the rest of the world from itself, to impose our virtues, which we see as superior to all other virtues - on others and that we have a right to do that by force. This belief has corrupted both democrats and republicans." - Chris Hedges

We cannot afford these wars, these wars that kill more civilians than that which were already being killed by the oppressive foes we say are the reason we are in these countries. The Iraq and Afghanistan war has lead to the highest civilian death tolls in both countries in recent history. While we fund the oppressive Saudis, Israelis, and doll out billions to other regimes on the deal that they spend billions on weapons and munitions. Which are deals made by puppeticians lobbied by the arms industries.

As a corporate takeover of government has the military kill hundreds of thousands of civilians overseas for the profits of war profiteers, we are becoming what we seek to destroy. Oppressive murderers.

War is not peace. This needs to be established.

"The rash of home foreclosures, mounting job loss, the collapse of banks and the financial services industry, the poverty ripping apart the working class, our crumbling infrastructure, and the killing of Iraqi and Afghanistan civilians with fragmentation bombs converge. The costly forms of death we dispense on one side of the globe are hollowing us out from the inside at home." - Chris Hedges.

War is the enemy of the poor. - MLK

Bombs are not solutions.

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder the hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_pictures_of_war_you_arent_supposed_to_see_20100104//

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

war and destabilization often leads to the rise of extremism.

A lot of people could do their mind a favor by reading Martin Luther King's thoughts on war and the problems they create and never really solve.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

War is propping up a failing economy, and making congress insider traders rich.

There hasn't been a single conflict since Pearl harbour that wasn't about making rich people even richer.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I think the Japanese had trade and money in mind when the bomb pearl harbor

[-] 0 points by engineer4 (272) 1 year ago

It was partially that, but also a bit of imperialistic / colonial mindset that they learned from the west. They felt "threatened with the ABCD encirclement and resource restriction. They also believed they were entitled to their sphere of influence, similar to the Monroe Doctrine. But then the military got completely delusional and "drunk" with "bushido"

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

this war is draining from our economy. Appropriating billions over and over to corporations that don't really do anything for the massive majority of our working class in the economy.

Wars prop up the economy is a myth pushed by the corporate state and the war profiteers. It does however prop up the corporations that force their way into power.

We could prop up the economy with better spending and a focus on home and self sustained communities with better public transportation, outside of oil. But the corporate takeover will not allow such.

I also largely updated this post, if you wanted to check it out again.

[-] -2 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 1 year ago

So WWII wasn't about money? Really? Oh....the ignorance....

[-] -2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

when will people acknowledge the imperialists?

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Instead of darth vader's head, put Mickey Mouse on there. They are pretty good at PR..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

i actually made that graphic for a project when Disney bought Star Wars.

[-] -3 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 1 year ago

Mocks the fantasy of individual heroism? You are woefully ignorant. You might want to recognize that you understand nothing of what you are posting.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You should read what Martin Luther King said about war and violence.

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder the hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3311) 1 year ago

Amen, Trevor.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

thanks