Forum Post: USA Slipping and Sliding Towards Fascism
Posted 12 years ago on Feb. 24, 2012, 11:40 a.m. EST by PeaceNow
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USA Slipping and Sliding Towards Fascism
Jeff Berwick | February 24, 2012
[The Fascist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State – a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values – interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a people. – Benito Mussolini, 1932]
“I never watch the State of the Union in the US. I just can’t stand someone looking into my eyes and lying to me for an hour. But I sometimes like to skim the transcripts after, mostly for entertainment, to see how they spin everything.
But the one thing I’ve noticed is there are never any tangible plans or strategies laid out. It’s pure demagoguery. But, behind the scenes, the US Government is working to transform the country in leaps and bounds… and not for the better.
Buried deep in Barack O’Bomber’s 2013 budget is actually a plan to all but outright nationalize the US Economy…”
http://www.wariscrime.com/2012/02/24/video/usa-slipping-and-sliding-towards-fascism/
http://www.antifa.org.uk/
The rest of the planet seems to get it, but as usual we are last to catch on in the "land of the free"...
The solution to Fascist Austerity and Fascist Economics: Below article is about how there was an Italian Summit where people who really don't like Fascism received a panel from the US who explained that Austerity increases unemployment and kills jobs.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/michael-hudson-2181-italians-pack-a-sports-arena-to-learn-modern-monetary-theory-%e2%80%93-the-economy-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-to-suffer-neoliberal-austerity.html
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP60tpwu5cs
This Modern Monetary Theory believes in good government spending and good government debt. In the US we have had Neoliberal Economic Policies for 30-40 years since the Chicago School of Economics came up with this crap.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/modern-monetary-theory-is-an-unconventional-take-on-economic-strategy/2012/02/15/gIQAR8uPMR_story.html
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2012/02/22/890211/yes-virginia-there-really-is-modern-monetary-theory/
I believe most MMT followers like the idea of getting rid of government borrowing from Big New york Banks. They believe the US Treasury can print its own money like the "Greenback" under Lincoln. There is no reason for the government to borrow money and pay interest.
1) Austerity Bad.
2) Government Spending Good.
3) If you stop government spending you lose jobs and increase unemployment.
4) The money supply is managed according to the population growth to allow plenty of money to flow in the economy without creating inflation.
http://www.neweconomicperspectives.org/p/modern-money-primer.html
William Black posted a long comment to further explain the MMT solution to Fascism at February 29, 2012 at 4:00 am. you will have to scroll down pretty far. It is located below the article posted here:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/michael-hudson-2181-italians-pack-a-sports-arena-to-learn-modern-monetary-theory-%e2%80%93-the-economy-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-to-suffer-neoliberal-austerity.html
Already here
Yeah, it's awful!
If the U.S.A. isn't careful, it could wind up as a fascist state where the government is involved in businesses like the failed attempt to save GM and Chrysler, and where it provides many services to its citizens in exchange for their taxes .
Yeah, a fascist county like, say, Norway!
Yeah, but Norway doesn't have the simultaneous rise of it's evil twins, the military industrial complex and the prison industrial complex. Stir it up with NDAA and we have something far more sinister than Norway.
Yeah, I've been thinking about Denmark, Norway, and maybe Finland this week as possible places to live. Someone said that Denmark and Finland have the happiest people. I met some people from Denmark recently and talked to them. I was thinking it would be too expensive to live in Denmark, but now I am not so sure. I found a post about visas that seemed to say there could be decent work.
My father is Finnish. I've visited several times and yes, they are a happy people. I'm originally from Sweden and they're a content bunch as well.
Oh this quote might be from you last month ...or maybe you can confirm the type of jobs.
"I would recommend Americans move to Scandinavia with Norway being the most attractive place. All Scandinavians speak English and the truth is you can live here just fine by just speaking English without knowing a word of Swedish, Danish, or Norwegian. Start by teaching abroad at an English language school (they’re everywhere in Sweden & Norway), working on a farm in one of the many programs available, or being a cook/chef at a restaurant."
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The USA is already there. Fascist economy= Privatize Profits, Socialize losses.
US Economy privatize profits, socialize losses, The Bank/Wall Street bailouts to prevent losses with tax payers paying. The Banks and Wall Street keeping the profits from the bail out.
Probably true but also not especially useful in terms of trying to mobilize a social movement. I'm 69 years old and people have been carping about this for my entire adult life, which of course doesn't mean that it isn't necessarily true. After all, ultimately Chicken Little could be correct and the sky really could be falling.
Are you kidding?!?! Are there actually people here that question this fact? Of course were reaching fascism. If you ask me, we're practically in the thick of it!!
A disturbing and frightening, but NECESSARY documentary;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpZhhbKUBo
An Interview with the above filmmaker - Reflections And Warnings - An Interview With Aaron Russo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ
I love it when posters throw in buzz words with no defined meaning, except to themselves; also quotations from historical whackos that somehow we're all supposed to interpret as applying to a modern entity, which of course--most of the time--is as far from the truth as green cheese is from the moon.
"Nationalize the US Economy:" horse hockey.
apparently you like paying more for a product based on some douche bag "speculating" it will cost more and by speculating it will cost more, it does so because it was speculated to do so. Separating that game from real life consequences should be a priority and I'm glad it's in the budget. Now some of you will have to actually produce something to make money, to bad so sad. You also need to look up the word "nationalize" because you clearly understand it to be the opposite of it's actual definition. By cutting subsidies, they are also removing government interference from the free market, making it truly a free market.
Oh, goody. Another bullshit troll OP. I was jonesin' for another one. Raising capitals gains tax rates is the same as nationalizing the economy. "Oh, my GOD. Making the wealthy pay the same rate as everyone else is Fascism, FACISM, I tell you! " Hahahahahaha.
That was funny. Stooopid, but funny.
Yeah! Don't believe what they tell you, the 1% don't pay 38% of federal taxes!
Fascism...Thinking about where we were in 2000 ...We are fucking fascist ++ at this time...
This country is not heading for fascism, let alone Mussolini's brand of it. Socialist Corportacracy is more like it.
We've been there for a while now.
Some folks just didn't notice until there was a non-master race guy in the White House.
LOL
Huh?
Obama on Capital Gains at debate 2008:
Moderator: The last three times the rate was lowered revenues went up. The government took in more money. So why raise it at all?
Obama: I would look at raising the CG tax for the purposes of "Fairness".
Moderator: But history shows when you drop the CG tax revenues go up
Obama: Well, that might happen, or it might not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jr3Ceu894
i wouldn't call Obama a fascist, just an incompetent far left president.