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Forum Post: Toodle-oo for Tuvalu

Posted 9 months ago on Sept. 27, 2013, 8:46 a.m. EST by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT
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We should be alarmed about rising sea levels

Fred Pearce - The Telegraph

The oceans are stirring. Deep beneath the sea, primeval forces have been unleashed that may engulf us all – unless we take to our boats to escape the rising tides.

That, as it happens, is the plot of John Wyndham's science fiction classic of the 1950s, The Kraken Wakes. But it also seems disturbingly close to what some scientists are now predicting. Once, rising sea levels were seen as a threat to distant coral islands: toodle-oo for Tuvalu, goodbye for the Gilbert Islands and curtains for the Carterets. But this week scientists raised their forecast of the rise in 21st-century sea-level from about a foot to about a yard.


jump in the lake


In case you missed it, this article was from 2009, and the IPCC report just revised upward maximum expected sea level rise by 2100 - but since all they ever do is revise their disaster estimate upward and that by only the most modest of amounts - and since we are already over half way to the 2040 target of 2 C temp increase globally, tell ya what -

why don't we just wad that report into a tight little ball and admit the facts -


and we can thank all of them orange boyee bone heads screaming their alarm over nannie state teat suckers

Clearly, they'd rather suck an abundance of Koch instead.



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[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (34825) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 months ago

Early this morning, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released the first piece of their fifth crucial report on global warming—and it confirms it: our climate is changing.

Humans are causing dramatic climate change—and we're already witnessing the effects. Oceans are warming and acidifying. Weather patterns are more extreme and destructive. Land-based ice is declining—and leading to rising sea levels.

And America still has NO NATIONAL LIMITS on carbon pollution from power plants—but we have the chance to change that. Please take action today.

We have a unique opportunity to make a difference in the climate fight. The President recently issued an ambitious Climate Action Plan. The EPA has taken the first step, proposing the first-ever national limits on climate pollution from new power plants.

But we know the game. The dirty energy lobby & their friends in Congress will continue to spread their disinformation and denials. They've already slashed EPA funding and are trying to shut down for good all EPA climate action.

Don't let them win: show your support of climate action today. Support the EPA's New Source Pollution Standards.

More than 800 international experts on climate change were involved in the development of this report, and they have made it clearer than ever: we have a moral imperative to act. I hope you'll join us.

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Action Network Coordinator

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I added:

Besides we have viable clean energy alternatives that we should be implementing As Fast As Humanly Possible:

The Liquid Metal Battery http://www.ted.com/speakers/donald_sadoway.html

The Thorium Problem ( not so much a problem as an opportunity ) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017146059

[-] 1 points by shooz (18095) 9 months ago

You're not supposed to mention the Koch's. They pay good money to professional denial, PR firms.

Here's a debunking of the fair and balanced debunking from the Telegraph.

That's correct, they allowed a denier equal time.


[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

nice . . . .

  • And I’ll remind you that while denialists are distracting everyone about the “pause”, about climate sensitivity, and all that, the Arctic sea ice is melting. Antarctic land ice is melting. We just experienced the hottest decade on record. And it’s difficult to stress this enough: The trend over time is higher temperatures.

and the not so nice . . .

  • And not that I’m looking forward to this, but eventually the ocean cycle will switch back to warming, and land surface temperatures will once again begin their inexorable climb. What will the deniers say then? I can guess: They’ll forget all about this “pause”, and focus on some other cherry-picked event to muddy the waters. They are as predictable as, well, the climate.


We will be very fortunate if we find deniers saying anything at all. Warmer atmospheric temps combine with an increase in moisture, and where this meets cooler air all hell will break loose. All we've seen this year are flash flood warnings and some significant mass wasting due to fast rushing water.

Just wait. IT ain't gonna be pretty. After this next round of warming, denialists likely won't dare say shit

[-] 1 points by shooz (18095) 9 months ago

I'm sure there will be those "Joneser's" (Alex), that will blame it all on agenda 21.

After all, the report is from the UN, and scaring people is the job of folks like Jones.


Meanwhile, deep in heart of Texas (does it really have one these days?), they are busy institutionalizing denial for a whole new generation.


[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

I saw that link on another thread - I voted it up and then realized, wtf? You got nailed twice on that.

Who around here doesn't like motherjones?

the fukers

[-] 1 points by shooz (18095) 9 months ago

The Alex Jonesers.

Deep in the "heart" of Texas.

There's plenty of them around you know.

They're libe(R)tarians, but they won't directly admit it, they just claim to be socially liberal and economically conservative.

They are in effect, political chameleons.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

I would like to think that there is such a thing as a socially liberal fiscal conservative that is pragmatic in their decision making as opposed to ideologically committed to paranoia as a social virtue . . .

Obviously no such animal exists.

[-] 1 points by shooz (18095) 9 months ago

I think Ted Nugent hunted them to extinction.

Now he's after everyone to the left of McCarthy.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

If I owned a copy of Cat Scratch Fever I'd toss it out.

fuk that drug addled fool

[-] 0 points by shooz (18095) 9 months ago

I think he injects Hoppe's no.9

If not? He must be drinking and sniffing lot of it.

Cat scratch fever is the only thing that's ever put me in the hospital in my adult life.

It can get serious.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

I believe it - freaks me out just thinkin about it - gotta keep the cat box spotless

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13739) from South Burlington, VT 9 months ago

wow - I got voted down for that. For telling the truth. I know I'm not alone, the liars do it to shooz too. It doesn't really matter, but it would be very useful to see who it is that feels this is - or that it merits, a thumbs down. I suspect it may be personality driven rather than ideological - but it could be both.

That would be useful information to have.

Not to me I mean - but never mind. I know there is no intention to become that transparent.