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Posted 5 years ago on Feb. 19, 2013, 10:53 p.m. EST by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR
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After Newtown, Gun Control Debate Spurs Political Action Across the Nation


After mass shootings in Columbine, Blacksburg, Aurora and Newtown, the conversation on enacting new gun control legislation has moved beyond the nation’s capital. While gun control activists are pushing for stricter laws, gun sales have increased as some gun owners fear tighter restrictions in the future. Gwen Ifill sat down with NewsHour’s political editor Christina Bellantoni to discuss the politics of gun control.

With the spotlight on gun control across the country, Bellantoni said many state legislatures are eager to join the debate.

“You have got governors who want to get on national stage. You have got a lot of Republicans who control state legislatures, particularly in the South. They want to strengthen gun freedoms. And then you have a lot of more liberal legislatures controlled by Democrats who want to strengthen gun control,” Bellantoni said.

When asked about the National Rifle Association’s reaction to the widespread call for stricter gun control, Bellantoni said, “There's definitely pushback. And you’re hearing them. They put out their own poll figures all of the time, trying to say their members and the broader public don’t support these efforts to tighten gun control efforts.”

The NRA and state legislatures are not the only groups trying to effect gun control bills throughout the United States. Bellantoni said various mayors and political action committees are donating money to candidates who support their view on gun legislation.


FRONTLINE: Raising Adam Lanza

In the wake of the mass killings at Sandy Hook [Massacre] , FRONTLINE looks for answers to the elusive question: who was Adam Lanza?




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[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

NOVA “Mind of a Rampage Killer”

Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 9:00-10:00 p.m. ET What makes a person walk into a theater or church or classroom full of students and open fire? What combination of circumstances compels a human being to commit the most inhuman of crimes? Can science in any way help us understand these horrific events and provide clues to prevention ? As the nation tries to comprehend the tragic events in Newtown, NOVA correspondent Miles O’Brien separates fact from fiction, investigating new theories that the most destructive rampage killers are driven most of all by the wish to die, not by the urge to kill. Could suicide — and the desire to go out in a media-fueled blaze of glory — be their main motivation? How much can science tell us about a brain at risk for violence? Most important, can we recognize dangerous minds in time to stop the next Newtown?


Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 10:00-11:00 p.m. ET Ever since the wake-up call that was Columbine, schools and law enforcement have developed multiple strategies to prevent attacks. Remarkably, more than 120 school assaults have been thwarted in the past 10 years. Security hardware and physical barriers may play a deterrent role, but it’s been psychologists — working hand in hand with law enforcement officers — who have devised the most helpful tools to prevent violent attacks. THE PATH TO VIOLENCE details a powerfully effective Secret Service program — the Safe School Initiative — that’s helped schools detect problem behavior. However, despite progress, recent attacks reveal a gaping hole in the safety net. Shooters like Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner and James Holmes all executed their attacks after they’d left their schools. In such cases, parents may be the first and only line of defense — parents who are terrified of their own children and who receive inadequate help from the mental health and legal systems. Can the gains made by social psychologists and law enforcement be extended to encompass the parents and families of violent individuals? Is the country ready to have a national conversation about the balance between school safety and civil liberties that interventions — including gun control — require?


Friday, February 22, 2013, 8:00-8:30 p.m. ET Moderator and Managing Editor Gwen Ifill will feature a segment discussing how Washington lawmakers are addressing the issue of gun control.


Friday, February 22, 2013, 8:30-9:00 p.m. ET NEED TO KNOW explores the ripple effects of a single fatal shooting incident. Twenty years ago, an 18-year-old freshman and his professor were shot dead at a small Massachusetts college. The killer was apprehended, convicted and sent to prison. But the events that day continue to reverberate all these years later for the victim’s family, the killer and his family, others wounded that day, school administrators accused of not doing enough to prevent the shooting and still others in the community. During this program PBS stations will also have the option to insert 90 seconds of local content.


Monday, February 18, 2013 - Friday, February 22, 2013, 6:00-7:00 p.m. ET Each newscast will include a segment dedicated to exploring the issues surrounding the Newtown tragedy.

Monday, February 18: A report on how the community of Aurora, Colorado, scene of last summer’s shooting spree in a movie theater, is reacting to the national debate stirred by Newtown and the recommendations for reducing violence proposed by the Biden task force. The town has recently been reliving the details of its own tragedy during the recent pre-trial hearings for the alleged killer.

Tuesday, February 19: NewsHour Senior Correspondent Jeffrey Brown taps into a discussion about the connections—or lack of connections—between violent video games and violent behavior. The Newtown killer reportedly spent hours playing such games, but is there any evidence that one thing leads to the other?

Wednesday, February 20: NewsHour Science Correspondent Miles O’Brien explores what scientists know, and don’t know, about adolescent brain development and what risk factors may lead a young person to violent behavior.

Thursday, February 21: NewsHour delivers a report from Florida, the first state to record more than one million requests for permits to carry concealed weapons. The story explores the increase in requests for gun licenses in the wake of Newtown, and the arguments for and against concealed carry laws in the state where Trayvon Martin’s killing is still a fresh memory.

Friday, February 22: From Chicago, a look at gun violence as a public health issue. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan recently shared that many more children die of gunshot wounds every day in Chicago than are killed by mass murderers in a year. PBS NewsHour explores how the Administration’s proposals for gun violence might change that statistic.

In addition to this special week of programming, PBS NewsHour will provide ongoing analysis, insights and panel discussions on the policy and political debates coming out of the Newtown tragedy, the Biden proposals and the President’s State of the Union address on February 12.

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[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

Bogus, bogus, bogus. I thought Lanza "killed" out of competition with Brevik!?

"Adam Lanza, 20, who killed himself as police closed in on him at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 14, saw himself in direct competition with Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a bombing and shooting attack in Norway on July 22, 2011, CBS said. Breivik surrendered to police.

Citing two officials briefed on the Newtown investigation, CBS said Lanza targeted the elementary school because he saw it as the "easiest target" with the "largest cluster of people."

The report did not say how the investigators learned of Lanza's desire to compete with Breivik." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/adam-lanza-norway-massacre_n_2713714.html Of course not, they made it up.

Lanza had no motive. The whole story is ridiculous. However, there's always that "Sound Bite Prism and the Will to Believe" and the "media’s “authority-disorder bias”" http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776 ) Also, http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/12/28/agenda-prevails-over-truth/ .

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Emulation or competition or fascination, what difference does it make?

A disturbed person grabbed available assault weapons and massacred 20 children and 7 adults in a matter of seconds. And similar massacres are happening with alarmingly greater frequency. And instead of eliminating the essential element of assault weapons, brain dead morons (jacked up and propagandized by RW Hate, Lies and Fear) are stockpiling them!! Guaranteeing more massacres!!

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

False flag, false flag, false flag. There seems to be a reading comprehension issue here. Lanza shot nobody, his body was planted as evidence.

From "Agenda Prevails Over Truth", Paul Craig Roberts:

" Agenda-driven news is the reason that apparent inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook story were not investigated or explained. According to some reports, the medical examiner said the children were shot with a rifle, but other reports say the accused was found dead inside the school with two pistols and that a rifle was found outside in the car. The police capture a man in the woods who says “I didn’t do it.” How would a person in the woods know what has just happened? Who was the man? Was he investigated and released? Will we ever know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovspEgeMXb4

Some reports say the school was locked and admission is via security camera and being buzzed in. Why would a heavily armed person be buzzed in? Other reports say he shot his way in. Why wouldn’t such a commotion have alerted the school?

Another puzzle is the video of a father whose child has supposedly been shot to pieces. Prior to the interview he is caught on camera laughing and joking, and then, like an actor, he pulls his face and voice into a presentation of grief for the interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w

The spokesman for the Connecticut State Police is anxious to control the story, warns social media against posting information contrary to official information, but provides little information, refusing to answer most questions. The usual “ongoing investigation” is invoked, but Lanza has already been declared to be the killer and the number of dead reported. About the only hard information that emerges is that the police are investigating where every component of the weapons was manufactured. The relevance to the shooting of where the components of the weapons were manufactured is not explained. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/people-spreading-misinformation-sandy-hook-massacre-face-charges-police-article-1.1221554

The medical examiner’s press conference is weird. He is incoherent, unsure of what he is supposed to say, hasn’t answers to questions he should have, and defers to police.

Perhaps the best way to avoid fueling suspicion is for public officials not to hold press conferences until they are prepared to answer the relevant questions.

And where are the bodies? Like the alleged murder of Osama bin Laden by a SEAL, the crucial evidence is not provided. Paul Vance, the Connecticut State Police spokesman, said that the “victims’ bodies were removed from the school overnight” and that detectives “were able to positively identify all of the victims and make some formal notification to all of the families of the victims.” http://www.kens5.com/news/Sandy-Hook-victims-identified-bodies-removed-from-school-overnight-183647091.html?ref=next

Allegedly, no parent wanted to see the body of their dead child, but how do you know it is your child if you do not see the body? It is a strange kind of closure when it is provided to parents by impersonal detectives. Has anyone seen a body other than a state medical examiner and a few detectives? Where are the media’s films of body bags being carried out of the school? Why would Obama’s gun control agenda forego the propaganda of a procession of body bags being carried out of a school?

Perhaps the sensitivity issue prevailed, but with all the suspicion that already exists about the government and its claims, why fuel the suspicion by withholding visual evidence of the tragedy?

There are reports that when emergency medical help arrived at the school, the medical personnel were denied access to the children on the grounds that there were no survivors and the scene was too gruesome. Yet, there is a conflicting story that one six-year old girl had the presence of mind to play dead and walked out of her classroom unscathed. If the story is true, how do we know that other survivors did not bleed to death from wounds because the emergency medical personnel were denied access? Did police exercise more control over the scene than was warranted? http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/121216/sandy-hook-shooting-girl-6-was-sole-survivor-her

It doesn’t seem to matter that questions are not answered and discrepancies are not resolved. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776 The story is useful to the gun control agenda. Progressives, in order to achieve their agenda, are willing adjuncts of the police state. The facts of the shooting are less important than the use of the incident to achieve their agenda.

Probably there are answers to the questions. Moreover, the news reports that are the basis for questions could be incorrect. But why aren’t the answers provided and confusions cleared up? Instead, people who ask obvious questions are dismissed as “insensitive to the tragedy” or as “conspiracy kooks.” This in itself deepens suspicion.

The Colorado movie theater shooting has its own unresolved discrepancies. One eyewitness claimed that there were two shooters. Apparently, the suspect was captured sitting in a car in the theater parking lot, which seems strange. There are claims that the accused, a graduate student in neuroscience, was involved with the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency in mind control research and that he doesn’t remember doing the shooting.

Do we actually know? Apparently not. Wouldn’t it be preferable to investigate these claims rather than to leave them as unanswered sources of suspicion? The loose ends of the Colorado movie shooting contribute to the suspicions caused by news reports of the Sandy Hook shootings.

A shooting incident occurs. The government puts out a story. Agendas form and take the place of the story. Unresolved issues disappear in heated dispute over agendas. Gun control advocates blame guns, and Second Amendment defenders blame other factors.

When the media permit agenda to take precedence over news, people lose confidence in the media and distrust spreads deeper into society. If the media and the government are opposed to conspiracy theories, they should not foster the theories by mishandling the news." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33472.htm

From The Daily Bell: "No More Questions to Ask About Sandy Hook Shooting?" http://www.thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?ID=28468&bid=2

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 5 years ago

Excellent post ND!!!

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

Thanks. And thanks for the upvote, if that was you. I had seen previously that it had just been downvoted seemingly within seconds of being posted.

Concerning the comment, perhaps questions will have more of an impact than spelled out arguments. Hopefully the readers will be drawn in to trying to figure out the answer themselves, as opposed to having answers provided to be immediately attacked, that act as ready made targets.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

If you adjust that hat to the east, while facing north, you can get direct feeds from Heritage to Cato and back. But keep it on the down low.

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

You so funny. Skewered me like a shish kabob.

By the way, how about those Dads crying without tears, huh? "Show me someone who can cry without tears and I'll show you someone capable of anything," unknown juror.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

You should know that no matter how much, no matter how specious the BS you post, I will fight tooth and nail to keep you on this board, unless you blatantly slime or advocate harm. Because as a learning devise for newbie activists/politicos your RW/RepubliCon rantings and silly arguments are education gold! So how many tears should the months-long grieving father have cried? Two? Three? 23? What if they brought his kid back to life, and he cried out of happiness? Two? Three? 23? What will be the necessary amount of tears for gun nuts the shed when we take your naughty toys away? And do you think we'll give a shit? Not one more life for your dumb hobby!

[-] -1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

I'm the progressive anti-fascist. I have never voted Republican in my life. You are either a misguided fool who would deliver the 99% to the mercy of the fascists or a fascist yourself.

One should always pay attention to those who appear to be feigning grief. I'm not saying that they are all psychopaths, but psychopaths are very good at that. And the Newtown story is so weird, so many loose ends, in fact, more all the time.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Your simplistic RW/Con simplicities (recriminations, pettifogging) are as obvious as the GOP hostage crisis, sequester.

[-] -1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

On the Sandy Hook false flag attack to undermine the 2nd Amendment -- the emperor has no clothes. The official narrative is patently ridiculous. I doubt you even read my comment ( http://occupywallst.org/forum/tonight-after-newtown-gun-control-debate-frontline/#comment-932618 ), let alone any of the links.

Who pays you?

[-] 0 points by Narley (272) 5 years ago

The gun debate has moved from Washington to the State legislatures. The first PBS video said twenty states have submitted or already passed new gun rules at the State level. Right now it looks like very little, if anything, will happen at the federal level. Maybe with the exception of universal background checks. That means no AR or AK ban, no magazine capacity restrictions or any of the other 123 gun related bills won’t even make it to a vote.

To the best of my knowledge, only three States are passing more restrictive gun laws (California, Colorado and New York). Texas is about to pass legislation allowing open carry of guns. An additional ten or twelve states have submitted bills saying they will not enforce any new gun restrictions. Whether you’re pro-gun or anti-gun, this is going to be a mess to keep up with.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Should have been addressed during or after WW-1.

We have a bad habit of exhausting every bad alternative before we try the good one. Better late than never. Let's roll up our sleeves.

[-] 0 points by Shayneh (-482) 5 years ago

CNN - piers Morgan talked about Adam Lanza today asking the same question -

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Bottom line: Disturbed people can't massacre without assault weapons.

[-] 0 points by Shayneh (-482) 5 years ago

Well it has been proven that 99.9% of all crimes including mass murdrs were not committed with a "semi-automatic rifle" - they were committed with hand guns - Look at the stats on the ATF web site - it gives a clear picture of firearms used in crimes and it also lists by state.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

So what?

If sling shots were the most popular offenders, you would not defend against a singular hostile foreign invasion?

Assault weapon massacres don't happen without assault weapons.

[-] -1 points by Shayneh (-482) 5 years ago

An assault weapon can be anything - it can be a sling shot, knife, club, bat, ice pick, frying pan house fire, or anything else a person thinks will have an effect on killing someone.

Shall we ban ownership of all of those items?

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Go soak your head in a filthy public toilet! It might clear up your thought process!


[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

The weapon of choice for crowd massacres is ANFO.

Thats fertiliser and fuel oil. Not an AR 15.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

I heard it was unemployment, homelessness and incarceration.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

He's a nut. Prob didnt get healthcare because you clowns keep electing a bunch of rich assholes that hate you. End of story.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Mentally handicapped person with an arsenal of assault weapons.

[-] 2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I thought it was just an AR and a couple handguns?

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago