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Forum Post: This election is a sham. Let's make a mockery of the election.

Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 14, 2012, 2:05 p.m. EST by alterorabolish1 (569)
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Please feel free to write about why your lessor evil argument is better. By all means write about the horrors of Romney and the repubs winning because we collectively didn't vote for dems. Things will continue down the current path in spite of your efforts.

There are people who are going to write in for their vote, NO WAR, also NO CONFIDENCE, and other protest votes. These will not be counted unless we agree to write in the same message. Millions will not vote at all because they realize it makes no difference, let's give them a simple chance to make a difference.

There is no Ross Perot or any person that will get many votes. Our only hope is to send a protest vote, one that gets people off the couch to feel proud of their vote in 2012 to send the biggest political message ever. This is the message everyone wants to send as a new starting point, and if millions get on board, it will be beautiful.

All you need is LOVE!

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[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

politicians already made a mockery out of the election

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

Yes they have. Voter turnout was very low yesterday. Maybe a clear message everyone could be proud of would motivate people to vote. The mockery would be powerful if millions wrote in with the same message.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 11 years ago

Vote for the person who most closely represents your viewpoint. If the name is not on the ballot, write it in his or her name. A word does not count, no matter how wonderful that word is. From Wiki:

In 1928, Herbert Hoover won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary on write-ins, polling 100,279.

In 1940, Franklin D. Roosevelt won the Democratic New Jersey presidential primary with 34,278 write-ins.

In 1944, Thomas Dewey won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 146,706 write-ins. He also won the Oregon Republican presidential primary with 50,001 write-ins.

In 1948, Harold Stassen won the Republican Pennsylvania presidential primary with 81,242 write-ins.

In 1952, Robert Taft won the Republican Nebraska presidential primary with 79,357 write-ins.

Also in 1952, Estes Kefauver won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 93,160 write-ins.

Also in 1952, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 254,898 write-ins.

In 1956, Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 51,951 write-ins.

In 1960, Richard Nixon won the Republican Massachusetts presidential primary with 53,164 write-ins.

Also in 1960, John F. Kennedy won the Democratic Pennsylvania presidential primary with 183,073 write-ins, and he won the Democratic Massachusetts presidential primary with 91,607 write-ins.

In 1964, a write-in campaign organized by supporters of former U.S. Senator and vice presidential nominee Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. won Republican primaries for President in New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, defeating declared candidates Barry Goldwater, Nelson Rockefeller, and Margaret Chase Smith.

In 1968 in the Democratic presidential primary in New Hampshire, incumbent President Lyndon Johnson did not file, but received write-ins totaling 50% of all Democratic votes cast. Senator Eugene McCarthy, who campaigned actively against Johnson’s Vietnam war policies, was on the ballot. He received an impressive 41% of the vote and gained more delegates than the President. Johnson was so stunned that he did not run for reelection.[2]

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader ran a write-in campaign in 1992 during the New Hampshire primary for the presidential nomination of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Declaring himself the "none of the above candidate" and using the Concord Principles as his platform, Nader received 3,054 votes from Democrats and 3,258 votes from Republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

You are advocating for the exact feelings I've had for years. I feel differently now. My hope is for a huge emotion to sweep the country where millions that normally wouldn't vote feel like voting for something they believe in.

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 11 years ago

The election is a sham-the elites have possibly even already decided the outcome.However,if the outcome is already decided why all the voter supression efforts and massive outlays of money for advertising?At this point the choice we are offered is how soon do we,as a society want to experience a total collapse of civil order.Romney/Ryan will simply deliver total chaos a bit sooner for those who are eager to "take the plunge."Personally,I am NOT eager to take the plunge and hopefully I will be able to vote for Obama/Biden,although I would like for The President to put my name on the Do Not Kill list before I give him my vote.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

Do you think Romney/Ryan will have a kill list?

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 11 years ago

I think Romney/Ryan won't win this time around.Also,probably The Kill List is standard practice in many countries.The new innovation is that the existance of the list is at least tacitly acknowledged.Certainly the existance of a Kill List maintained by the government of Israel can't be doubted.The British government is also a vicious goon conglomeration that has a Kill List,but I don't think they would ever allow such an allegation to stand without vehement denials.Anyhow,now that having a Kill List is now accepted as normal,Romney/Ryan would certainly have one.

[-] 0 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

How many people should be on the Kill List? 10 or 100 or should it just be determined by the people in charge. Will there be rankings of who should be killed first, or should mass killings take place during emergencies?

Do Drones have lasers?

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (3084) from Waterville, NY 11 years ago

I don't really understand why you are asking these questions.I do not think there should even be a Kill List.Besides being horrifically immoral,a Kill List is illegal,whether the POTUS has one,or the 88Crips,or the Mossad,or whomever.Obviously.Mass killings are crimes against humanity.Obviously.As far as Introduction to Weaponized Drone Guidance Systems,I opted instead for Introduction to Structural Support,since I went to Art School and I thought I probably would not need training in weapons guidance systems.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

Glad we agree there should be no Kill List. Good choice choosing structural support over weaponized drone guidance systems.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Opting-out is a sham. Never has done any good never will do any good.

You should go to a corpoRATist site - as they are supporting their own enslavement - you may just be able to get them to opt out and write in love or something. They have to be brain dead so how hard would it be for you to be successful there?

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

I don't know. How hard do you think it would be for me to be successful with the brain dead people?

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 11 years ago

My hope is that the Wall Street money and far right money of the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson be repudiated by a majority of the voters. Wall Street and the rightist fanatical billionaires clearly know who they want to beat and I want to beat them. I want the TP to be disheartened. I want the lying racist Mormons to have long faces and bouts of depression along with the other religious fanatics. And I want Occupy to keep doing what it does- action. I see no contradiction.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

You want to beat Wall Street and the rightist fanatical billionaires, but you're going to vote for their other candidate?

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 11 years ago

The election proceeds with me or without me. I ask myself what is the best possible outcome? I answer myself - that the money poured in against "the black guy" be repudiated by a majority of the voters. That the gay haters be demoralized and see themselves as a shrinking minority. That the Democratic Party base - it's almost identical to the Occupy base- feel empowered and not downhearted. Something is going to happen this November with you or without you. Try to make the best of it.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

Sorry. I already tried the ideas you're recommending. Finally figured out it was an illusion. I will try to make the best of it though.

[-] 0 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 11 years ago

Yeah, well you're going to need a whole lot of MONEY too, to pay your tax bills in 2014 or so after Romney starts taxing employee health insurance or home mortgage interest or whatever it takes to allow him to give the rich their huge tax break. Because you sat around, listened to demoralizing speeches, let yourself get polarized on this issue and that, and forgot the main point that it was the Republicans who legitimized risky practices by banks while guaranteeing them fresh public funds whenever they lost, the Republicans who fomented wars we never needed and wasted our money in corruption and stupid contracts, and the Republicans who remain utterly committed to making the gap between the 1% and the 99% even wider than before. As bad as the Democrats are on so very many issues, the Republicans have long since departed any legitimate realm of political discourse.

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

Thanks for the lessor evil comment. Good luck to us all.

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[-] -1 points by Tenacity (-36) from Hague, ND 11 years ago

i agree, the election is a sham

both parties answer to big monied interests...not ours

[-] 1 points by alterorabolish1 (569) 11 years ago

The election is a sham, and we must get past this fact so that we can overthrow the corporations.