Forum Post: The ZENDOG dilemma

Can you claim to be right without all the information?

[-] ZenDog (4028) 1 points 16 minutes ago

that was salon,

and I have read sections 1031 and 1032 of the Senate version - 1031 happened to have been stashed somewhere around 1025 in the online version.

and I repeat:

The President's statement sounded fairly clear on that bill

Levin / McCain wrote it - and it's a budget bill - which means it kinda had to get passed - it's one of the tricks of Congress - attach bullshit to the bills you know must pass

And I would point out that the whole confusion over whether terrorists are criminals or Prisoners of War dates back to bushite

The President has been attempting to address that issue - and Congress has stalled him - as have those who were screaming about the cost of trials in NYC

You just don't understand how this complex machine actually works ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink [-] LongDaysnight (87) 1 points 9 minutes ago

Obama ordered Americans to be included in the bill. Also i am not a bush fan. Are you sure your not frying now? Let me point out i spotted your stealth Obama support before you admitted to it. You are not nearly as smart as you think you are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ysdsxF3eo ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink [-] ZenDog (4028) 1 points 6 minutes ago

I don't you-tube

are you sure you aren't a repelican intent on privatization of every single function of government?

bty it is a video from Congressional hearings.

EDIT NOTE: Sorry ZEN for using you as an example cause i see many here do what you do. It just finally got to me enough i had make an example. This argument pertains to NDAA 2012 and what the bill authorizes and if signing statements have any legal weight.

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This is for anyone who has not seen a FEMA camp. Look up Japanese internment camps and REX 84 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment <<<<>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

It is nothing new. Right zendog?

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More info for ZENDOG'S flag collapse trolls. This was a comment to him for proof of FEMA camps and they collapsed it instantly.

[-] LongDaysnight (87) -5 points 17 minutes ago

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 That's right H.R645 the bill Jessy Vantura brought on air before the government forced the episode removed.

SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.

(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.

(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.

(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.

(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.

(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.

(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

(e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

(g) Reports-

(1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;

(B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;

(C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;

(D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and

(E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).

(2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);

(B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

It also further enables them in NDAA 2012 Uncollapse my messages below to reveal the light... I am done editing this.