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Forum Post: The master chess player stumbled

Posted 1 year ago on March 2, 2013, 7:53 a.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Obama, in a move to try to push the Rs back to the table before the sequester, overplayed the sequester disaster. He and his people seemed to imply a nearly instant disaster. It will be a disaster for hundreds of thousands of people who lose their jobs - but it will take many months.
I dont see how this gets resolved - clearly we need to raise taxes on the 1% and we need to reform - NOT Medicaid or Medicare - but our entire medical system.

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[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 1 year ago

I'm not so sure this sequester thing really has to be such a big deal. There are a lot of government contractors out there like Lockheed, Northrop-Grumman, Boeing, with CEOs earning mega-million salaries. If sequester can be made to get those clowns to cut back from the government dole......ah just dreaming that wouldn't happen.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

half of the cuts MUST come from the people - not the military
headstart, meals on wheels, teachers, flu shots, etc etc

[-] 1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 1 year ago

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/03/03/white-house-admits-third-time-president-obama-fibbed-on-sequester/

White House Sperling FINALLY admits that the sequester was President Obama's Plan.

Master of something yes....chess...no.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 1 year ago

Yes of course. Major government cut backs have always been part of the plan. It was only a matter of how to sell them off to the American people without creating mass revolt.

There will be more, just look at the President's spending plans which he proposed way back in 2008-9; deep cuts in defense, etc. etc.

[-] -1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 1 year ago

I have no problem with spending cuts. I have a problem with the White House denying that the sequester portion of the Budget Act of 2011 originated in the White House over and over again until someone finally forced the White House to admit the truth.

If the President doesn't want to cause mass revolt, then he shouldn't have been on TV last week stirring up all kinds of anxiety about the big bad sequester (that his team proposed in the first place) that he signed into law.

[-] 1 points by vaprosvyeh (-400) 1 year ago

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/

"Sequester Cold Open"

Would be funnier if it wasn't so true....

[-] 1 points by blacksad (-58) 1 year ago

With all due respect, are you out of your mind? "seemed to imply"? "stumbled"? I think you mean lied, passed the buck and used scare tactics like your average politician.

Some good news came in this message from Carlos Elias, the superintendent of the U.S. Capitol building and the Capitol Visitors Center. Hint, the unnamed high ranking official is someone you've heard of.

“There was a specific mention in the news today by a high ranking official that said ‘The employees that clean and maintain the US Capitol will receive a cut in pay’ (not specific quote but very close to it)” "The pay and benefits of EACH of our employees WILL NOT be impacted"

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

Reforming our entire medical system will require reform to Medicaid and Medicare since they make up such a large part of our medical system. In many states Medicaid is essentially useless as providers don't accept their minuscule reimbursements. That will surely need some reform. Medicare reimbursements are also not keeping up with providers' costs.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

Medicare & Medicaid are too expensive because everything they pay for is over priced.
Medicare "overhead" is a tiny fraction of the insurance company overhead.
answer - Medicare for all.
American made pills can cost 10 times as much in America t han in Canada.
Too many tests.
We have many other countries with better systems that are cheaper
all we have to do is admit "America is not #1"
learn & change

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

My private insurance is much better than Medicare. Why would I want something that is worse?

Other countries have much better health outcomes but if you look at those countries you will see that they are not nearly as unhealthy as your average American. It is hard to get good results when we don't take the time to take care of ourselves.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 1 year ago

I believe you have your cause and effect ass backwards.

If more Americans could afford yearly physicals, then maybe you would see healthier Americans. If Americans didn't have deplorable labor relations, then maybe Americans would have more time to attend to their health.

Yes, I believe you put the cart before the horse.

[-] 0 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

Americans are unhealthy because we eat more food than we need and don't exercise nearly as much as we should. And that food that we eat too much of is predominantly crappy food to begin with. Plus things like drug and alcohol use and smoking.

Every single American can afford a yearly physical. If they are poor they can either qualify for Medicaid or go to a FQHC where the fee is based on their income and for a physical is like 25 bucks.

The next time you are out in public just look at how disgustingly unhealthy most of us are. Those people don't need a yearly physical so the doctor can tell them to eat less and exercise more, or not to smoke, or not to drink so much. Everyone knows those things. A lot of Americans just don't care, for whatever reason, about their own health. Until that changes we can do reforms all we want but if people don't take care of themselves it will all be for nothing.

[-] 1 points by Micah (-58) 1 year ago

But the brilliant Maxine Waters ( D ) said that 170 million people will lose their jobs. The actual workforce is about 150 mil.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

And was that a silly mistake - a verbal typo ?
Or was it a lie?

[-] 0 points by Micah (-58) 1 year ago

Typo? No, Silly mistake? No. Stupidity, YES. As a member of congress , she should know better.

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[-] 1 points by Narley (280) 1 year ago

I think this is still a game of chicken between Obama and the Repubs. It’s still a case of who blinks first. They will take this all the way up to where thousands of people are layed off before they decide of a deal to avoid it.