Welcome login | signup
Language en es fr
OccupyForum

Forum Post: The Great Con

Posted 1 month ago on July 6, 2019, 10:27 a.m. EST by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX
This content is user submitted and not an official statement

In 1973 the people of Chile owned their own farms and were free to grow what they wanted and needed. After Pinochet they worked on rich landowners farms and grew cash crops for export. That is: "fair trade."

In 1989 Iraq was an "emerging first world nation" with free education from pre-school through Phd. Gasoline was 5 cents per gallon for Iraqis. Medicine, electricity and communications were free.

Trade benefits no one but the traders. Like bankers, investors brokers and CEOs, traders don't actually do real work. They are parasites. Their activities, organizations and the profits produced by them are harmful to the community and will destroy the human race and the planet we live on, if allowed to continue to thrive.

46 Comments

46 Comments


Read the Rules
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

“'United States' to Imperial America: Our Hidden Empire” ...

''The global expanse of US military bases is well-known; but its actual territorial empire is largely hidden. The true map of America is not taught in our schools. Abby Martin interviews history Professor Daniel Immerwahr about his new book, 'How To Hide An Empire,' documenting the story of the "Greater USA".

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 3 weeks ago

1984 was a done deal by 1959.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

"'A Dystopian Surveillance State Is Being Built in Plain Sight' ... Pentagon Tests Radar-Equipped Balloons to Spy on Vehicles Across Midwest." by Julia Conley:

Which points out that "These programs are not about stopping violence, they're about social control!" &

also note ... ''We’re All Enemies of the State: Draconian Laws, Precrime & the Surveillance State''

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” — H.L. Mencken

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 2 weeks ago

Balloons that can track cars and boats through any kind of weather.

“We do not think that American cities should be subject to wide-area surveillance in which every vehicle could be tracked wherever they go,” said Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union."

This is truly crazy stuff really impinging on our rights as American citizens.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/pentagon-balloons-surveillance-midwest

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 week ago

''Koch Foods of Mississippi to pay $3.75 M to settle discrimination lawsuits —— & then ... ICE shows up!"

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 week ago

Tennessee community blocks ICE from taking their neighbors with a human chain.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/24/headlines/tennessee_community_blocks_ice_from_taking_neighbor_by_forming_human_chain

Humanity still exists. Phew.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 days ago

I <3 https://www.democracynow.org/ ! Tnx.

Inhumanity is 1%/Ruling Class' forte', tbh!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 5 days ago

The evil and greed of the powerful few is so overwhelming that we tend to focus on the negative but most folks are good and have morals. We can't forget that.

The evil psychopaths have power and money, but we the people also have power due to our sheer numbers.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

''When Donald Trump was running for the GOP nomination, he told 'USA Today’s Kirsten Powers that Ayn Rand’s raped-girl-decides-she-likes-it novel, 'The Fountainhead', was his favorite book. It relates to business, beauty, life and inner emotions,” he told Powers. “That book relates to ... everything.”

''Trump probably knew that anything by Rand would be the right answer for Republicans; the party has embraced her for decades, to the point that Paul Ryan required interns to read her books as a condition of employment.'' from ...

e tenebris - tenebris?!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 day ago

Ayn Rand relied on Social Security and Medicare in her old age, two socialist programs that any true libertarian would never take because of course, they'd be so individually rugged and free they wouldn't need to! Eedjuts! Of course they need to, they bleed just like anyone.

"Rand underwent surgery for lung cancer in 1974 after decades of heavy smoking.[96] In 1976, she retired from writing her newsletter and, after her initial objections, she allowed social worker Evva Pryor, an employee of her attorney, to enroll her in Social Security and Medicare."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

Awwww. So, she thought socialist policies were a good idea after all.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 day ago

Everyone tends to be shaped for both better and worse by their lives' circumstances. Ayn Rand's earlier life in Russia certainly shaped her philosophy. I can relate to some of her experience as an immigrant to the U.S. but not the terrible things in her family's earlier life because I was born after the terrible wars of the twentieth century had already given way to Pax Americana.

As a very late-born kid to my family, I never experienced for once the great (land-ownership and companies-owning honchos') wealth possessed and enjoyed by my grandparents so I never missed it. I know where the wealth came from. It was built up one level at a time, some levels built up just due to being at the right place and at the right time. Transcontinental trade in the nineteenth and early twentieth century generated much of my grandparents' wealth. The toleration and transcendence of cultural differences resulting in mutually beneficial cooperation helped the global trading empires.

These trading empires collapsed in the great punctuated cataclysm of WWI and WWII. The collapse was due to not having found ways for the emerging nations such as Germany, Japan, China, the Soviet Union, and Italy to integrate well into the global order dominated by the great colonial empires until the decades-long post-WWII Pax Americana had fostered global trade into the greatest economic boom ever in which Germany, Japan, and China have prospered greatly from the maritime security underpinned by the U.S. Navy.

Germany's Angela Merkel knows best why the export-dependent powerhouse of Germany depends on the U.S. Navy's global dominance of the high seas. The greatest problem with Red China is that its sheer gargantuan size created the delusion of grandeur in its ¿moldy 1960s-vintage? leadership so that it desires to kick the U.S. {Mom told me why my seeing P. americana scurrying out of our cupboard in which we had stored our leftover food was a sign of plenty} out of the Indo-Pacific region to ensure its uninterrupted access to raw materials. This echoes Imperial and later Nazi Germany's challenge of the British Empire which resulted in the globally catastrophic wars. A transition of power is always perilous but the dissolution of the British Empire and the subsequent U.S. assumption of the Brits' global security role had been fairly smooth to the benefit of the whole world.

In becoming wealthy, dumb luck exists but there is also such a thing as setting out many buckets to catch the dumb luck. Where to set the buckets is based on one's perceptions and skills so the success is not entirely due to dumb luck (land value is much determined by its location and what one can do with it.) There exists a saying that one might have blindly entertained an angel because one was simply entertaining the weary and tired road travellers from afar ("in socialism," of course, but people will generally say that it's charity.) "Be formless, be shapeless, like water." Our younger generations need help, call it socialism or whatever.

I generally view trade positively except for the possibility of multiple forms of contagion which we must guard against diligently as the bane of travels and trading. Travels though can broaden one's mind and foster connections so in the olden times, a grand tour was usually undertaken in adolescence to prepare for adulthood. This helped separate the aristocratic from the peasant classes in adulthood. I suspect that you, bw, had had a grand tour or its equivalent.

Contagion may be SARS, Ebola, influenzas, West Nile; Asian long-horned beetles, Asian emerald ash-borers, Burmese Pythons, Asian Carps, zebra mussels; toxic pet food, dry walls, cheap crappy products that killed off all the more expensive products which work; wealth and income inequality amplified, etc. Walls can be good or bad depending on how they are used. Most people, aside from the ones still mired in fears and superstitions, agree that contagious disease wards should have biohazard containment walls. Generally InfoWalls aiming to perpetuate the power of the ones already in power when there are better examples of good governance outside of the realms of that power are selfish and should be eliminated. The very bloated U.S. medical-cost allocation system has no parallel in the developed world. It's not a "health"care system but a cost-shoving gambling casino. There are many examples of better healthcare governance and cheaper healthcare systems with better health outcomes elsewhere such as Taiwan's or Hong Kong's.

Is South Korea's healthcare system be similarly good, despite its younger people being similarly stressed as Hong Kongers? South Koreans live very competitively stressed lives. Do they even go on vacations much? At least BTS is on vacation so maybe things are changing a bit in the correct direction with an eminent leadership -- it's good!

Hong Kong's elderly people tend to live such a long time that they don't pass on to their younger generation the wealth and housing real estate, solving a big part of the physical and financial distress which contributes greatly to the unrest there. Note the large bulges of elderly people relative to the fewer younger people who have to support them in some way. There's too much wealth inequality there squeezing the younger people hard in favor of the business interest which still controls a significant chunk of the legislature.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 5 days ago

When I was a kid in the 1960s reading the explanation for the extraordinary power and finesse of laser light, "the lightwaves are like soldiers marching together shoulder-to-shoulder in-step to make the coherent light powerful."

Having large numbers is good but it's not always the deciding factor. Knowing where and when to take the final stand is important, too. Western Civilization stands because the "300" of Sparta took up a strategic position at Thermopylae. Coherence counts. King Leonidas looked at his wife's countenance before deciding. I hate wars but there are worse things to bear than wars so they cannot be ruled out. Conflicts are intrinsically built-in to Life over resources. However, what are counted as resources vary depending on the level of the available technology. Beach sand is a resource to Silicon Valley but why is it located in California, U.S.A. instead of so many other places of the World where there is sand galore? Why not in the Sahara Desert? Among many other things, Silicon Valley has a "traitorous" culture in a good not-too-hot and not-too-cold climate where people (initially from locales near Manhattan whose environs incubated the invention of the transistor and also the experimental discovery of de Broglie's matter wave founding the complementary "pillar" of the modern "temple" of quantum theory) are comfortable and free to talk with each other and engage in business activities.

Singapore (of which my Dad who had booked peculiar flight paths was telling us a rumor of hair-length-enforcing ¿morality? airport police with scissors at the ready to cut short the hair of the travellers arriving/transiting through there when the long-hair style of the Beatles was all the rage; its economic success set an example for authoritarian statism) decided very early on (in the 1960s) shortly after getting its independence to install air-conditioning for its workers to boost their productivity. It allowed the higher productivity to make the country rich. It's the productivity (which is multiplied by capital equipment,) not the strict political control which makes a country rich. If it were the control, the DPRK should be vastly richer than the U.S. but that's not the case. Hair style doesn't make a country rich, innovation which requires the freedom accorded to "the nail that stood out was not only not hammered down but instead raised as a paragon of virtue if it deserved the honor" and productivity do.

My Grandpa helped make his trading partners well off and he got richer himself, too. When trust reigns so that trade may boom, and when trade booms, money gushes at high pressure at the people involved as if it were the water coming out of a fire hydrant. Wealth comes from the excess production "garbage" having been moved (here's why transportation infrastructure and security are of paramount importance and the World had experienced the post-WWII economic boom, with Pax Americana underpinning the maritime security; same booming trade happened for the ancient Roman Empire and the Mongolian Empire) to a market where it's valued much more. Trust is the key. Fair dealing is important for building trust.

Wars are negative-sum games. Trading is usually a positive-sum game.

What does the U.S. stand for? It should be universal human rights protected by the Jews and the Saudis.

My Mom taught me how to discern a kidnapper of me (because I was a free-range kid roaming many square miles of "playground" [with my Big Brother if I ventured outside of our no-car-traffic and labyrinthine but logistically logical shantytown]): look at the person's nostrils; if they are pointing downward, it's a kidnapper so I must run away fast. I tried it and it worked! Moms know best (my Mom might not have been confident of her method's infallibility because I still wore the silver chain with a stone coin around my neck like a "dogtag" for a soldier going into a battle.) Terrorists are just as easily discerned so I offer Mom's very successful tried-and-true method to all U.S. nationals still overseas, lest they be physically too close to a terrorist who is a target of the Global War on Terrorism whose participants certainly include Russia, Red China, and the U.S.A.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

It's a pyramid scheme - only those who get in at the start make money - while they get as many people as possible to buy in - then they pull the rug out from under everyone as they trash the holdings for the last cent they can squeeze out of the holdings - and move on to the next scam to do it all over again!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

And the real estate market is a straight up Ponzi. The brokers and lenders make the most on the houses we "own" year in and year out. The higher the prices the more they make.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Yep - People do not have a chance to own actual property any more - it's ALL been turned into another rent game by a different name that offers a fantasy of ownership - hell - if something valuable was discovered underneath the grass, and it couldn't be gotten to without removing the home sitting on the property, you would be evicted in one way or another so some greedy corporation could get access!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

if something valuable was discovered underneath the grass, and it couldn't be gotten to without removing the home sitting on the property, you would be evicted

They won't have to pay the "owners" when the fracking rig is set up. Eviction may not be necessary for the extractions to proceed. Perhaps they'll be able to take the oil or gold and leave the "owners" liable for the clean up. Mineral rights have been retained in most new deeds for the past forty years or more. And the sheeple just say, "Oh, everybody does that ..."

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

"Oh, everybody does that ..."

Yeah - they do - & then they end up turning on their water faucet one day and flood their house with gas from where fracking was done on their mythical property as in reality they don't own it.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

the free market apocalypse is coming. the end is near!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

The Corporations can't continue to pay a less than minimum living wage & expect that they won't be killing off their own business market. Same with rentals - they can't keep raising their prices & not expect to price themselves out of business.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

It's a better investment than most others, though. It's leveraged in one's favor by the perennial inflation created by the government colluding with the wealthy people to steal the fruits of labor of the not-so-smart working stiffs. The interest is often mostly tax deductible to shield one's working income.

Don't go overboard, but joining the other huge hogs in drinking the hoggyswasch makes much sense. One has to live somewhere so the worst that can happen is one has lived in one's own dwelling for a long time but the real estate didn't appreciate much in value.

All wealthy people whom I had met in my lifetime owned real estate. It's a great money pump for sucking blood from all the not-so-savvy working stiffs. My elderly neighbor whose cistern my Mom "annexed" under our family's Monroe Doctrine after Mom had destroyed my micro-submarines for launching my [aborted] Operation Neighborhood Microvampires, helped Mom indirectly to secure credit to own our dwelling forced upon our family with the threat of eviction due to the death of the landlord and his widow needing cash quickly to survive.

It was a terrible tragedy but turned out alright and for us an excellent investment! We never thought that our elderly living-alone-by-herself neighbor could become the enabling source of much familial stability (as we didn't get evicted and become homeless) and (since to continue to stay sheltered, we had to pawn valuable things, eat the fatty austere dishes, etc. so that we could own our dwelling which became the foundation of our eventual) wealth! She had connections and she was willing to use them for helping us (because we took care of her as if she were our very own Grandma.) The U.K. may be a bit like my Grandma, I suspect, who may not seem to be strong or rich but actually have both sway and influence through her children.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

The interest is often mostly tax deductible to shield one's working income.

Do the math on that trite misdirection.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Do the math on that trite misdirection.

Yep & let's not forget about all of the Home Owner (HEH as if) deductions that were removed with the wealth care trillions of $'s tax gift away to the wealthy few!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

Inflation bails the indebted ones (the wealthy ones) out. The pivotal thing is avoiding any debt overload. The more debt one has the wealthier one gets with the power that be "printing money" to help one out.

In my family's case, we didn't have tax deductibility so it's irrelevant (we weren't living in a kleptocracy but a socialist polity!) I agree that it's a potential misdirection but it should go into one's financial calculations as to how much debt one can feasibly carry without going broke.

I think my "birthplace of the wooden gods" neighborhood had social bondings that helped make life better for us the paupers. I don't have the seemingly instinctive revulsions upon hearing the word "socialist" because I was thinking, "What's the big hoopla about kids having their wounds healed, elderly ladies having their cisterns filled with clean potable no-cholera water, etc? It takes money or effort but many worthwhile things are like that."

The smiles on the kids' and the elderly living-alone ladies' faces are rewards enough. At one time, we were kids, too. At another time, we, (not me because males tend to die young and almost never get to become elderly living-alone ladies,) might become the elderly living-alone ladies who found it challeging to fetch the heavy water they need for everyday living. I was fascinated by my Grandma's strip of plastic (my first encounter with this flexible and transparent material) hung near her cistern as I didn't know what it was. I think she used it for scraping her tongue and then rinsing her mouth out with a scoop of the water from the cistern but I had never seen her doing it so it remained a mystery to me.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

The more debt one has the wealthier one gets with the power that be "printing money" to help one out.

Look, we're all getting rich and wealth is being distributed to everyone! I don't know how I missed the big picture this outcome implies. I must be the most naive and obtuse individual who ever lived!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

aahhhHAAAHAAHAHAhahaha - did the sucker actually say we were getting wealthier the further we go into debt? OMG . . . .How INSANE!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 5 days ago

Many leftists and even many well-educated foreigners say, "The U.S.A. is the wealthiest country in the world." In fact, the U.S.A. is the most indebted country in the world.

How do you account for that then?

My concern about left-wing politics is the terrible totalitarian things that will happen after the government has run out of "other-people"'s money. Examples of this abound: Maoist China, Venezuela, Zimbabwe-Rhodesia, etc.

Also debts are not necessarily bad. I borrowed to buy my first car but it allowed me to get to a well-paid job. Even after the around-16%-per-year-interest-rate payments, I still came out ahead financially. Organic growth is best (no need to worry about the financial raiders) but spiking it a bit from time to time with an inorganic fertilizer is fine, too. The key thing is to retain financial control over the debts incurred and not to let them get out of hand.

When in trouble, devise fixes quickly and carry through. Knowing where one's really at is very important for fixing things quickly, the pain mechanism is a great evolutionary breakthrough of Life. It's a major reason why countries with the freedom-of-information-flow-without-fear nearly always fare better in the long run than the ones without such freedom. That "pain in the ass" is telling one something so try to figure out why and fix it. Using painkillers to numb it is often detrimental in the long run because unfixed problems almost always grow worse over time (a supreme probabilistic law of Nature -- there are vastly more potential broken states than greatly functioning states.) A good life is about flows through processes: air flow, blood flow, oxygen flow, nutrient flow, nerve impulse flow, food flow, shit flow, and so on. Constipation-caused hemorrhoids can be easily and cheaply fixed by drinking water regularly.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 days ago

Many leftists and even many well-educated foreigners say, "The U.S.A. is the wealthiest country in the world." In fact, the U.S.A. is the most indebted country in the world.

How do you account for that then?

It's been accounted for in growing protests for several years now = all of that wealth is sitting in very few pockets and their off-shore treasure hoards.

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

Doubling the paper wealth for everyone is possible by just trading a tiny amount of security at double the last market value and everyone who owns the security has doubled their wealth in that security on paper according to the new market value but not everyone can liquidate paper wealth into real wealth en masse. The real world goods as measured by loaves of bread, pints of orange juice, etc. haven't doubled in quantities.

Who has the best opportunity of liquidating their paper wealth into real wealth first? The one who traded the tiny amount at double the last market price. Of course, the SEC will tell you that market manipulations are illegal but there are law makers and law breakers, right? Can't they be one and the same? The one who knows best how to break a law without consequences is often the one who had made the law in the first place due to one's knowledge. These "it takes one to know one" knowledgeable people may appear as the ones who work in the court systems, legal services, legislatures, regulatory agencies, police departments, etc. If one has farted in the elevator, the best way to hide that is to hold one's own nose tight and start complaining to everyone else how stinky it smells and swear all kinds of terrible curses at the person who has done the dastardly deed. That's how the swamp is "drained."

There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich (i.e. @4:03 smart and good in business.) The arrogance that accrues triggered violent counter-reactions to "we answer to a higher authority; we are just a better and superior people."

You're not a Jew!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

Right! I'm not a Jew. And you're not a genius. Few corporatists are anything but racists, fascists, nazis or fools and you're no exception.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

OH MY GOD - Sour Grapes is a Racist, just look at that prejudiced meme He (?) just used!

There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich

I thought he (?) was a bit nuts long before "that" statement, but a Nazi too?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

Since they are not geographically isolated, Jews are NOT a race! If you believe that they are, you've fallen into their confuse-your-brain trap.

Why is Palestine/Israel the homeland of the Jews, and not the Arabs or the Palestinians? Jewish idea. Everyone can have their own idea. Why can Israel be a secular Jewish state of the Jews? Isn't the U.S. a secular state of Christians, right? The phrase, "In God We Trust," is on every bill and coin issued by the U.S.A. God exists for Christians, doesn't He?

Why is Red China is subverting the U.S. on multiple fronts? So it is written, so it must come to pass.

From where did you get the [unfounded] idea that I'm a Nazi? I don't mind being called a Nationalist (a bit too old-fashioned though due to the karma accumulated to it during European Colonialism) but the usual connotations of "Nazi" don't fit me.

Being a secular Christian state, the U.S. should conquer and occupy Judea and Jerusalem because Jesus Christ was born there. Both the Jews and Moslems must be cleansed from these areas, as Jesus did, driving out the money-changers from the Temple. Isn't it about time for a Crusade?

I think that the problem with Jews is that it's very difficult for a non-Jew to become a Jew because in Judaism, Jewishness isn't something that just about anyone can acquire by converting to Judaism, unlike Christianity. It often requires a matriarchal descent, a spousal relationship, or an exceptional honorary bestowment. I believe what Jesus said but I don't worship Him. I think that people will generally agree that I am a Christian (despite my somewhat bizarre event, maybe each and every son of our family was specially "chosen," for we dressed well and ran in a hurry.)

Guess what I would have uttered at that time were I conversant with English swear words? "Holy Shit!"

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Being a secular Christian state, the U.S. should conquer and occupy Judea and Jerusalem because Jesus Christ was born there. Both Jews and Arabs must be cleansed from these areas, as Jesus did driving out the money-changers from the Temple. Isn't it time for a Crusade?

Now you are espousing ethnic cleansing? Sounds like a continuation of Adolf Hitler & His Nazi's war. So you want to cleanse Israel & Palestine, and then what? Go on and cleanse Syria & Iran & Iraq & Afghanistan? Then will you go on to Turkey and Greece & Italy? Where do You Stop? Or do You. You gonna go & cleanse the whole world? Ya fuckin Lunatic!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

You're injecting me with Islam's growth-phase idea (you did come up with a great hit list of countries, though!) You are the contagion.

I am not angry. I am no-mad. I must return to stabilization. After my completing sterilization, there will be peace.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

(Edit) I haven't injected you with anything! You made Your BS White Supremacist comments all by yourself! Though - talking about injecting. . . . just what in the Hell Kind of a trip are you on? 90% of your comments seem to come straight out of the Twilight Zone - only the Twilight Zone is at least comprehensible - whereas for your usual crap - I don't think even You understand a lot of the crap you spew. You on a perpetual Bad Acid Trip?

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

I don't think even You understand a lot of the crap you spew. You on a perpetual Bad Acid Trip?

His reply below beginning, "Are you a Jew?" tells all. He thinks he's a "really stable genius" and we don't understand his "code." In his pubescent 12 year old mind (even if he's 90) he believes the turbulent, confused drivel he spews is enigmatic profundity. He reminds me of someone ...?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

He reminds me of someone ...?

Hmmm . . . lots of possibilities. . . the Orange Criminal-N-Chief for one has a problem with spewing word salad. . . .

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

The genus Homo might be a neotenous offshoot of the genus Pan. Hence, Trumpanzees are likely relatives!

It's good that you think that I "tell all." Yeah, it's transparently fair from my end, isn't it?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

Are you a Jew? If yes, I understand why you are offended so I apologize.

I love the Twilight Zone show. Welcome, fellow fan! Don't get too worked up over anything that I had written. In the open environment in which we communicate, there are messages encoded not directed towards you at all. Someone else may understand the public-key encryption process used. People who talk in code and understand code due to necessity or deniability may know better what I had written. There is no secret here.

Meaning is the result of a double-ended [communication] process combined with semantics. The most efficient communication is through apparent random noises and yet under selectable control. Communication is inherently a paring-down selection process from all possible received messages to a probable intended received message. All communication is subject to errors but arbitrarily low-error-rate communication is possible under the correct condition. The command to launch the nuclear missiles on a submerged nuclear submarine to destroy a country or continent needs to have an extremely low error rate but self defense is always very much out of any hierarchical control. What good will a court-martial do when there may not even be any court left?

Kids arguing about whose god was more powerful was very enlightening. I get it that a wet-clay god cannot even cross the lake without being decomposed, let alone carrying or saving anyone else along the way. A god carved out of wood with some bloody red gory color painted upon it seemed pretty meek, too. There was a valid point made that our kids were bowing down in worshipping idols or false gods contradicting the Ten Commandments they purportedly adhered to.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

You are engaging in anti-Americanism, also known as PC-ism, due to your attack on the First Amendment so -- as described in the video, Red China is freer to allow Trumpery freedom in its social environment without repercussions. It also proves that the U.S. is being mind-controlled by Judaphiles to benefit Jewish bankers.

Here are the few reasons why Apple loves to be inside of Fuckchina.

Corporations can pollute with impunity and they can sell electronic gadgets to the numerous isolated-confinement kids of migrant workers who have nothing better to do. It's terrible to be a shut-in kid because one doesn't have the money to spend on doing things outside of the home since it's a costly city environment. There may well be a new Apple device called iNept Outweigh coming out sometime.

Oh, say can you see?

The first word which I had learnt from my first kindergarten's vocabulary book was Apple. The first word which I had learnt from my second expensive but shitty [literally deluged by shit on one ignominious evening!] kindergarten's vocabulary book was Apples. Support fishting as inculcated or 98.4°F sake.

My bidét baptism came later on from der After, of course. "Holy shit! God works in mysterious ways -- God definitely knows about the hygienic sequence in which the bidét water must come later than the shitty Deluge." God knows and uses noncommutative algebra in which AB != BA (or AB <> BA) where A and B are baptismal events by a burst sewage pipe's effluent and bidét water, respectively. God's Love for me manifested in His doing the bidét water later.

Every umbrella is a bow and arrows set and a spear to be. Every high-rise building can be an execution platform (I saw a result of this, a slight-built-black-clothed scrawny elderly woman's body surrounded by a dark red splatter imprinting the concrete, like a roadkill flattened sparrow having made its small feathered final mark on the World; I suspect a social safety net failed,) especially accessible in Red China. Every glass bottle can be a handy lacerating weapon if broken correctly. Every long shirt sleeve, scarf, or tie can be a handy strangulation weapon. Every larger paper bag and duct tape can be a suffocating weapon. Every knife can do kosherizing. Chlorine bleach and urine are components of a binary chemical weapon. The fastest way to stop an opponent in a fight to the death is to severe the carotid arteries at the sides of the neck. Bayonets aimed at the hollows behind the collar bones are very effective (no ribs there.) If unavailable, bamboo poles (used for hanging clothes out to dry) with an end cut off at an acute angle can substitute for bayonets. Remember that when hungry enough, dogs (which believe that the wolves have the just cause) will join the wolves to take down and devour the carcass of their master or mistress. Tanks have very confined spaces perfect for a chemical attack on their ventilation systems. Their undersides and tracks are the usual weak spots. The U.S. took a lot of casualties early in the war in Iraq from shaped charges penetrating the lightly armored troop carrier vehicles. Nitrate fertilizers may be bomb-grade material. Note that they may be traceable as evidenced by actual war experience.

The second word which I had learnt from my first kindegarten's vocabulary book was [a human] "arm," a strangulation weapon, often used by the heavyset ["undercover"] ones wearing shades, with big fat muscular arms and very short hair to avoid being grabbed during a scuffle. When I got to Ur-anium, I learnt the word "umbrella." The second word which I had learnt from my second kindergarten's vocabulary book was "arrows," I could still remember what I had learnt from my first kindergarten's vocabulary book so "umbrella" -> "zoo" -> "apples" -> "arrows" was taught to me in sequence in my kindergartens (our ancient warrior culture never died!) We the neighborhood children made bows and arrows from broken umbrellas and strings we got from the neighborhood garbage dumps and took turns to shoot at a shittoad (from the drainage ditches) which we had nailed to a board. It twitched in blood.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjD6Prv8KjjAhXWZs0KHeyICk4QFjACegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRacial_antisemitism&usg=AOvVaw3cMo7IP_BYyF4HuPFX4QES

You made the comment "There's the game of musical chairs, often orchestrated by Jewish bankers. Jews unsurprisingly enjoy a reputation of being astute and rich" - which is a racist meme. & Nazi's used it a lot. So perhaps you need to rethink some of your prejudices? BTW White Nationalist is White supremacy & is very much a fascist (Nazi) thing - quite popular with the KKK. You don't like being associated like that? Then you have some work ahead of you to distance yourself & you could start by not referencing White supremacist KKK Nazi crap!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

I'm not a genius. If I were, I could have protected more people. Here's what the eastern European Jews sang about. Maybe it can help you. Although I was not and am not a Jew, I heard the song's message when I was still in my single-digit years. I know where my allegiance lies despite my multiple-cultural background. Home is where the heart is. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!

By my reckoning, Jews are not a race but the people adhering to, converted to (through a marriage,) or born of a stipulated matriarchal line in a particular monotheistic religion which had originated near Jerusalem. If you claim that I am a racist because of my reference to Jews, you are mistaken.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

Trump's not a racist either, to here him tell it. But corporatist subsumes racism as the means to gain a working class base. Corporatism conditions fools with all the shit you've been spouting. In case it's not clear, this is not an implication about you. It's an observation of your loyalty to the corporatist (a more accurate if not perfectly congruent description of fascism) regime that rules under the hegemony of the Wall St. Oligarchy.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33788) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Trump's not a racist either, to here him tell it.

Actions not Words! I keep telling everyone = it's NOT what people say, it "is" what they DO! & the Criminal-n-Chief's actions are CRIMINAL as well as Racist!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

I'm not a corporatist according to the definition I'd looked up.

Corporatism is actually what gave rise to the British East India Company, the Opium Wars, and Hong Kong's very peculiar status. There were other similar corporations.

The rise of the West owed a lot to the rise of Corporatism. I think that we are now seeing the rise of Red China as the rise of Statism in "China, Inc." Even Google scurried to the National Security Agency for help when it had discovered that the STATE OF CHINA was behind the hacking of Gmail accounts of Red China's political dissidents. A totalitarian State is generally more powerful than any one of the corporations in it. Red China reaches out with its corporations, academics, state-sponsored students, "cultural exchange" students, honeypots, marmite jars, "dating" burglars/swindlers and fake-marriage human-trafficking visa-fraud concerns, high-tech worker bees, etc. all over the world but especially targeting the U.S. because Red China wants to steal and eat our children's and children's children's lunch.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

Civilization is the story of ruling elite classes that measure the progress of our human community by their increases in wealth.

Corporatism, according to Mussolini, is a better handle for fascism, because the former is a marriage of state and corporate power. Corporations are the tax and liability avoiding invention of the ruling elite classes that dominate and threaten the existence of the human race. Those who consistently take up the cause of the parasitic race that rules us, whether foreign or domestic, and echo their propaganda are self destructive fools, just like the rulers themselves.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2363) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

Don't conflate individual consumers with exploitive trade oligarchs. That's obtuse to say the least. For profit organization of peoples' labor, by elite parasites, is a crime against humanity.