Forum Post: The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 14, 2011, 5:13 p.m. EST by nucleus
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- Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
- Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
- Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
- Supremacy of the Military
- Rampant Sexism
- Controlled Mass Media
- Obsession with National Security
- Religion and Government are Intertwined
- Corporate Power is Protected
- Labor Power is Suppressed
- Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
- Obsession with Crime and Punishment
- Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
- Fraudulent Elections
Laurence W. Britt http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm
Here is a good message to governments and the pigs that help them do what they do, to all the flag waiving bullshit they propagate as they sacrifice people in bloody wars, and most of all to their obsession with having kids pledge some sort of bullshit allegiance to them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEaEdLQbAFM
Every empire throughout history has relied on fascism to gain control. the good news is they all fail when they get to big (unless they bet bailed out). This one will fail as well. Unfortunately, this time it may be a global failure.
Before we can build a better world we have to get rid of this current fascism, either by letting it die, or by taking it apart. It seems to me that if we do the dismantling, we stand a better chance at bringing in a better post-american-fascist-empire world. We should take it down.
Good luck with that, it's HUGE! Unfortunately since has so much support by misguided loyalists. you may have wait for it to fail on it's own. Although as with many tragedies we have seen throughout history, it may bring the world closer together in the end.
Nothing humans do is huge, really in the scale of things.
Perhaps the Hip said it best;
"See when it starts to fall apart, Man it really falls apart, Like boots or hearts when they starts it really falls apart."
[ http://youtu.be/pk98eI_-J_s ]
You never have to brake the whole thing, the whole system, just get the ball rolling,. and the broken system "just really falls apart".
Hip? If I understand you correctly, this already happening.
The Tragically Hip, great band! (hit that video link, old song from them.)
Yes it is happening, and we should work to push and pull the collapse in directions that are useful for a softer landing, and to make building a better human based non-corporate system to replace that old sht more likely.
I do my part, whenever possible I buy "one person" goods and services, I pay what they are worth in real world terms, and avoid "big box stores".
Permaculture, Degrowth, Relocalize, SlowMoney,. etc.
Yes, we can all do a little (or more) and it adds up.
Sometimes, we do need to come together and push really hard on some corner of the machine,. flip it over, and gut it!
and as planned we will have a global solution. Unfortunately the people will demand this global solution, in a manner that will resemble the OWS movement.
Explain?
Is this that "Contract With America", some ultra-right politicians had to sign?
thanks for posting this. linking it back and thru
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Police_Abuse,_Corruption,_Misconduct,_and_Treason
Agreed. so. now what. The least useful aspect of the whole thing is that its non violent. this does not help the agenda at all.
Its also orders of magnitude larger and bigger than it was supposed to be and growing at an exponential rate.
What perhaps you may fail to understand at first is that there has been a dam. Holding back. The waters of the light of truth. Crack. Snapple. Pop. 200 years of lies. 200 years of propaganda. 200 years of science creeping on while the elites tried to freeze the knowledge of the proles in 1800. 200 years of sociology knowledge. 200 years of education reform science. 200 years of oil and coal while all the whole while we could have had geothermal.
Crack. snapple. Crack. Crickkettyy pop. snapple Crack.
How long could the lies hold up? how long could they keep the proles ignorant and wholly self destructive?
How long could they prevent a genuine consensus process?
Corporate Oligarchy is a Dead Horse walking. It looks alive, but it actually died in 2000 with the Election of Bush. Assorted fatal systemic errors are killing it, and without a vital solution for a new and dynamic evolutionary revolution, all of humanity, including the elites, would die.
they need this revolution just as much as the rest of us.
And there is nothing they can do now to stop it, their only power is to try to censor it, control it, co-opt it, and fail, until we elect them out of office and then take back our government.
"Beasts of burden"? lol. Yes, the Collosophant. Carrying civilization forward on our shoulders while they the mere parasites lives off and on us.
It was a handy arrangement for them, but we could have crushed them at any time at our whim, and they have failed to realize this. The police in Oakland are realizing this. 50 mounted horses are just riot targets. Beat enough people up in front of a crowd of ten thousand, and it could just get a lot uglier than any fight they want to pick. WE THE PEOPLE are WAKING UP. And we are mad as hell, and we are not going to take it any more.
Snap. crack. krick. pop. 200 years of evil control. 200 years of dumble down. stretching. Creaking. splintering. When it breaks there will be no safe place for any oligarch to hide. their trillions of dollars will not buy them the elections any more and their lies will be known to the public and they will live in shame, and most of them will end up in federal prison.
When the bough breaks, the cradle will rock...
humpty dumpty...
a thousand metaphors and narratives. I'm glib today, actually, and reminded of this song, in 1776.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1213z9KHNs
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Issues_%2B_Political_Platform_Items
Excellent, thank you!
How about OPPRESSION of Speech!!!!!!!!
That would be 2, 6, 12 and 14.
We have that right here on this forum!
Hate speech is not protected.
If typing in the name of one out of two whistleblowers on the wars, civil liberties, the federal reserve is called hate speech this movement will be out of business soon.
Ron P a u l s name cannot be typed here. He is next to Dennis Kucinich the only whistleblower in Congress.
Naomi Wolf made a similar argument in The End of America.
I don't dispute the facts - but one of them is a bit contradictory. I mean, I haven't been arrested yet. I keep trying, but it just isn't happening.
Here - see for yourself - and then tell me I'm not trying hard enough . . .
http://occupywallst.org/forum/targeted-interdiction-what-is-it/
Everything moves in cycles. Civ as we know it will end and then new ones will rise again.
Of the 14 defining characteristics listed only #8 would not be true in communist China. Religion was added to intellectuals and art and targeted during the cultural revolution.
check check check check check check check check check check check check check check ... Honey, I do believe we are fighting fascism.
It seems each and every one of those points is rampant in america today. Fascism from Europe never died, it just slowly rebuilt here in america. Like the proverbial frog in the boiling pot of water, we have slept, we have been asleep.
Now is the time to wake from this slumber and take the power back. If we do nothing the american fascism will only grow more powerful, and the boot will stomp on that human face, as Orwell described, over and over and over again.
Well, read through about 100 supreme court decisions over the last ~50 years and you'll find that most, if not all of these attributes are represented. If not in the overall decisions, in the individual opinions of the justices.
The sky is falling, Look! outside!
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Numbers 5,8,11,14 are incorrect. A case may be made for 8 in Falangist Spain but they weren't intertwined or even a major part of Franco's Spain. Pretty much the same for Mussolini's Italy(the original Fascist state) and definitely not Hitlers Germany.
Interesting points, thanks.
Sexism (5) relates directly to disdain for human rights (2).
Religion and government intertwined (8) has wide diversity of opinion among scholars. Some see them as ultimately competing with each other and therefore antagonistic. Others see religion as another power structure to be utilized for control. It works either way for me.
I'd disagree about the arts (11), as art was a propagandist tool of the state in fascist and other regimes and intellectuals are by their very nature and existence subversive to any power structure.
As to fraudulent elections (14), we have them and a fascist state, so I find that a good fit.
Actually we are not sliding toward fascism. The Republican party pulls the country toward fascism and the Democrat party pulls us toward socialism. They play "good cop bad cop" on various issues and keep the country divided so they can stay in power and achieve their ultimate combined goal of authoritarianism.
Still suffering under the "two party" delusion?
All the pigs feed at the same trough.
Why'd you pick the name Nucleus?
Not me... I'd really like to see us have a viable second party in the election process! I'm tired of the Republicrats.
Citizens are the second party. The other is corporations and their politicians.
While I still disagree with your original post your description of the so called two parties is spot on.
Exactly!
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In order for someone to BE a fascist, they actually have to believe in and own these characteristics personally. It is not enough for you to merely THINK they are all these things.
most fascist won't openly admit to believing theses principles but practicing them is a pretty good indication of where they stand.
http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
Dr. Britt comprised this list by examining fascist regimes, not by interviewing individuals who actually are fascists. Must someone demonstrate ALL of these traits, or just some? How many? What if someone else inaccurately interprets the actions of another person as being fascist when they really aren't?
the actions are what are important. any number of reasons can be used to justify fascist activity. bush jr. and iraq and hitler and poland come immediately to mind. both situations were done in the name of national security which actually wasn't the case in either.
Absolutely false!
Which part?