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Forum Post: Team Forum-Fuck are commodities traders, just a guess.

Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 24, 2012, 11:32 a.m. EST by richardkentgates (3269)
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Andy Kessler: Obama Needs to 'Pull a Rubin' on the U.S. Dollar

use the google search to bypass the WSJ log in

Too bad the rest of the market dogs are about to throw your sorry asses under the bus

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[-] 1 points by RedDragon (-161) 2 years ago

I'd say they're definitely oil traders, yea.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Speculation is fun but it's outlived usefulness.

[-] 0 points by RedDragon (-161) 2 years ago

I'll say. Especially when the Chinese are drilling oil right off our coast.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Link requires a subscription.

At least that's what it said when I tried the link.

edit - And why are people downvoting everything on this post?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Check the OP revision.

[-] 1 points by GNAT (150) 2 years ago

The down-votes speak volumes.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

That the WallStreet Journal is just another Rupert lie machine and can no longer be trusted?

That it is now just notch above FLAKESnews for veracity.

Yes, I think it is so.

Have a down vote on your pointless puppet richard.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

lol, the union hack that supports a declining dollar. Now there is a contradiction :D

ABA?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

And what kind of hack are you richard?

You HATE unions. OWS likes and supports them and often works with them

Quoting the WallStreet Journal on a site that HATES WallStreet.

Refusing to admit that Rupert owns that fucking rag these days.

Really richard.

Just what kind of hack are you?

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

I'm the constructive kind. I require my money to be worth something. The party thing is tired. It was an effective redirection, for a while.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You're comments are rarely constructive.

Claiming others to be hacks and then quoting a "conservative" rag like the journal is hardly a non-party kind of thing.

It's like hchc quoting zerohedge. You do know that that site is also frequently quoted by prisonplanet?

Then there's your use of a sock puppet to lend credence to your own postings.

That's truly hack behavior.

It's downright disingenuous.

So fess up richard.

What kind of hack are you?

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

I post about economics. We've already had this discussion. You're use of social pressure is worn out. Not that I gave a shit to begin with, I'm obviously the wrong personality type for it. Get a clue.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Oh, and your name calling is still shizzle?

You post conspiracy theory about economics.

"Right" wing conspiracy at that.

C'mon richard.

Fess up.

What kind of hack are you?

You know we've never had that conversation before.

Why do HATE unions richard?

Hell richard why do hate so much in the first place?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

You're right, your silver tongue passive aggression holds so much more sway.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

It's you in avoidance richard.

Why don't you answer the question instead of playing amateur psychologist? Using it as another form of name calling.

[-] -3 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Why do you pretend to support unions but argue against articles and threads that protest the weakening of the dollar? How do you merge union support with supporting actions that make the worker paycheck worth less?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I knew you couldn't do it once again richard, because I never said it.

I don't even care that you've made a mess of this thread.

You just keep spinning and spinning., and then denying it.

You accused me of saying something I never said, and you do it over and over.

I all said was that I disagree with your WallStreet induced interpretation of the cause, and asked you to explain why you accepted WallStreet's version.

Instead of answering you spin and spin and call me names.

So what kind of hack are you, richard?

So you accuse me of being pro-inflation or some other stupid attempt insult.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Patterns don't lie, people do. You have dismissed and attempted to nullify this issue in many forms and your record of it is all over my threads.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You know. For this to be true, you would have to say what issue you think I'm nullifying.

If it's the WallStreet Journal?

Yep you're correct. I don't believe a word they say these days.

It's not that they are always wrong, it's that you can never be sure.

It's become the FLAKESnews of economics.

Speaking of spin, the dyer stopped, and I have laundry to fold.

So spin on richard, spin on.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I'm a dues paying, retired member of the UAW richard.

I even spent 2 terms as a low level elected official.

I answered your question, richard, in spite of the fact that you didn't answer any of mine.

I even answer the stupid question you've posed yet again in different terms, richard.

Did you forget.......... again?

Yes indeed you did.

So I'll say it one more time for your edification.

"The number one engine of inflation is and always has been Wallstreet"

They charge you a lot, yet produce absolutely NOTHING.

Now richard, will you finally, honestly answer my questions?

Or will you pretend to have forgotten them?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

I asked you about your contradictory positions between economics and union support. I didn't ask you to reiterate your union position, which seems contradictory. Feel free to continue spinning out of the question.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Pure spin from you richard. 100%.

"How do you support a weaker dollar and say you support union workers? The question will still be there when you're done spinning."

Prove you're not spinning and show me where I said exactly that.

No interpretation from you, richard, show me where I said exactly that.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

I'm not going to waste my time providing all the permalinks showing the trend because you and yours have filled the forum with a pattern of activity attempting to nullify and neutralize any argument that points out a weakening dollar and rising prices.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

No richard, I'm not spinning at all.

It's you who's constantly quoting the spin from the Wall street journal.

Will you be denying that too now, along with the rest of your denials?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

How do you support a weaker dollar and say you support union workers? The question will still be there when you're done spinning.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Yeah, I didn't think you would richard.

What I said was, I disagree strongly with the WallStreet version.

It's you who agrees to it and posts from it's source.

Bullshit from Rupert Murdock.

So what kind of hack does that make you richard?

Will you now iterate the libe(R)tarian anti-fed BS?

It's not that I think the FED is innocent, I just don't buy that line of partisan BS.

You do.

So what kind of hack does that make you?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Still on spin cycle huh?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You're anti union too?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Don't pose at me. You cannot be for the unions and for a weaker dollar. You both smell like shit.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Fuck you! Corp hack! Go back to your end of the world bunker.

I think I saw you on this nat Geo show. LMFAO

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/episodes/bad-times-all-the-time/

[-] -2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Keep fighting, I'm learning.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Shitty song like your paranoid theories!

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

That song was written in support of Occupy, jack as. But then you know that, of course you're offended.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Still shitty like your doomsday theories.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

http://www.shadowstats.com is a good site for raw info.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Weird there are so many downvotes for a post that criticizes Obama yet praises Clinton.

You just can't seem to win Richard... the party hacks are resiliently biased... even though this post backed their party of the 90's and makes sense.

Not to mention the "subscription problem" when you click the link. Makes me wonder if they even read it or jumped to conclusions.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

These aren't party hacks. Read the thread title.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Until the nation gets its currency back under its control, and not the central bankers, then we will continue on this path.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Last time the dollar got to alltime lows on the PMI scale was a certain Friday. That Sunday, we announced we caught BinLaden. And the dollar went back up.

Where's another BinLaden?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

No relation. The dollar began to climb as the previous round of QE became exhausted. As I have said before, the actual volume of sales is down. Basic economics and economic history shows that lower demand drives down prices. To prevent profit loss, the fed is printing money, which devalues the dollar and businesses subsequently raise prices. Thereby using the higher revenue to mask the lower demand, keeping profits up. This creates the illusion of healthy markets when in fact, demand is very very low. This is the Obamanomics game.

The dollar continues to push upward because demand (sales volume) continues to decline, so the Fed must keep printing to suppress the dollar in order to keep up the game and prevent profit loss.

It boils down to protecting the wealth of the 1% at all costs, including the entire American economy.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

dude, theres def a relation between OBL and the dollar when you look at how many time they raised silver margins in the following week while the hype was abound.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Silver is a commodity. It is directly linked to the value of the dollar so this is why the correlation. Killing people has no effect on market variables. That is a tin hat I just can't wear.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Look at the spike right after May '11. Silver isnt related to teh dollar when the Chicago Mercantile Exchange can go in and manipulate the contracts while the nation is cheering over a dead body that doesnt exist.

It was at 50oz that Friday, and by the time they were done scamming the markets, it was back down to 35oz.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

I don't really follow the metals, honestly. But there is no relation.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

There is a definite relation. Silver at all time highs, dollar still tanking. Kill OBL. One week later silver back down to 35 and dollar on a nice rise.

The markets are rigged. You dont have to follow the metals, but the central bankers are VERY interested in the price of the metals due to multiple factors.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 2 years ago

Check youtube for RT economic reports on metals. They talk regularly about the role of CNBC in the manipulation of gold.

[-] -2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Ya, CNBC want to push garbage. I know a guy who has friends who have gone on there, and its either say this or dont fuckin come on.