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Forum Post: Sunlight Budget

Posted 2 months ago on Dec. 29, 2020, 5:26 p.m. EST by agkaiser (2480) from Fredericksburg, TX
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What if The sunlight budget we ignore can not be balanced? If we keep using up the stored reserves, the shortfall could kill us all.

How many people can be fed using only the energy input to the planet provided by the sun each year? Fossil fuel energy is stored sunlight. Can the population of Earth still be supported when the coal and petroleum run out and we must rely on sunlight and gravitational energy alone?

Assuming vehicles and machinery have been converted to renewable energy operability and we have such energy production, there are still many questions to be answered:

Can photosynthesis and other natural processes create enough plant sugars, convert enough carbon and fix enough Nitrogen for vegetative growth, animal food and human agriculture?

Without chemical fertilizers that depend on petroleum for energy production and source material mostly from fossil fuels either directly or indirectly, can we produce enough food for 7 much less 8 to 10 billion people? Much of the world is already falling short.

I don't know the answers to those questions. I do know fossil fuels won't last forever and we will either learn to capture and convert more solar energy or learn to do without so much energy as we use today.

"... The left movement has to bring in the best of scientific and technological minds to fight the multiple disasters that the greed of capital is creating..."

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/12/why-we-need-to-adopt-friedrich-engels-thinking-on-science-in-these-times.html (gravitational like tides and geothermal energy.)

I probably won't live long enough to see this prediction realized. But my children may and my grandchildren almost certainly will, if we don't wake up soon and act in self interest to undo the long term damage our foolish economic masters are doing for their short term gain.


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[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8277) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

even the oil companies know we can not use up all the oil, it would destroy the Earth, the Sun provides abundant energy for our needs..

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2480) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 month ago

If the sun can't support agriculture sufficient to feed 8 to 10 billion people we're in deep shit! The end is near!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

Trump was coming to the rescue. Let Steve Bannon spend "15 minutes" in Hong Kong and everything would be settled for bosom buddy, eh? It's a power trip bromance with beautiful, beautiful love letters. Being fat is highly respected over there, even for "a failed version of the Tweety bird" or a "[body-weight-no]Loser." Trump was thinning "the herd" in myriad ways and the sun has much "reserve capacity" to support many more people. Human beings' needs are extremely unlikely to reach that limit anytime soon ( within a few centuries.) Agriculture can also be made vastly more efficient. We do need to watch out for reverberating problems arising from climate fluctuations: Brexit, for example, was triggered indirectly from the failure of the rain in western Australia via Australian winter wheat crop failure. China being the normal customer of that crop bought up grains on the global grain market causing much higher food prices in the developing world, so we got "Arab Spring" in Egypt, Libya, and Syria, with civil wars in the latter two. Especially egregious was Syria's civil war which got multi-countries' interventions ( when Assad had nearly bern deposed, Russia intervened heavily to retain its Mediterranean Sea naval base in Syria so the civil war fronts swept over Syria multiple times, reducing it to rubbles; since Russia had won in Syria so Russia should rebuild Syria into a major economic power -- same as what the U.S. had done for Japan ) so Libyan and Syrian asylum seekers swarmed to Europe, targeting the U.K. as being the best resettlement locale due to its many jobs, high pay, favorable "chain-migration" policy for relatives, etc.; U.K. populace reacted with Brexit to get away from Germany's lenient policy on accepting mass migration into the E.U.

Sorry to the Muslims and the Jews, pork's fat ( and very fatty chicken butts ) given in charity really saved me from near starvation ( Hong Kong had Chinese culture which eats pigs--my parents didn't eat any exotic meat such as dog meat raised next to our shantytown because they weren't native to Hong Kong but chicken and pork were palatable to them; children often eat the same foods as their parents so I probably { I heard rumor that some ham might be flavored by being cooked with a doggy thigh and I ate ham so I might have eaten doggy flavor with ham } didn't eat dogs.) Anyone who wants to have a big brain has got to have fat for the electrical insulation of the neurons ( better insulation for faster electrical transmission speed of neural impulses--"old fogies'" slower reaction times were probably due to the thinning/reduction of insulating fatty substance wrapping around the neurons' cellular membranes ) because the brain is the fattest organ of all human organs.

This was Manhattan's simple macroscopic burnt analogue of a human brain. Note @4:47 the very fat insulation on the cables. If we could do this task of replacement microscopically in the vastly higher complexity within human brains, we might rejuvenate the brainy hardware of our senile citizens. Eternal human life is in principle possible ( although exact reproduction of a cloned individual is impossible due to fundamental uncertainties at small scales growing into significance,) subject to the law on entropy S=k log W, with the evolution of all physical systems following the path of maximizing the elapsed proper time and the probability of generating entropy in the statistics of quantized actions. Both time and gravity are derivatives from the statistics of quantized actions via entropy.