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Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 25, 2012, 8:12 a.m. EST by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR
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Sen. Sanders: Voters must Re-Elect Obama & defeat right-wing extremism

Independent senator makes pitch for Obama

By Suzanne Laurent

news@seacoastonline.com

September 23, 2012 2:00 AM

PORTSMOUTH — The lower level of South Church was packed with an enthusiastic crowd as U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., rallied for the re-election of President Obama.

Sanders said he preferred the town meeting style of campaigning to the "negative ads and sound bites being thrown at people."

Before he spoke, two union representatives said a few words. Tom Hersey, business manager of Union 976 in Portsmouth, said one of the first things Mitt Romney would do is repeal the Davis-Bacon Act for prevailing wages on public works projects. Laborers from Union 976 dismantled the Memorial Bridge.

Karen Cusson, recording secretary of CWA Local 1400 for Verizon workers, said the thought of not having unions in this country "scares me." "Union members in your state are the middle class," she said.

Sanders said the union movement is a good thing for the entire country.

He then talked about jobs and the economy.

"When President Obama assumed the office four years ago from George W. Bush, the country was losing 700,000 jobs a month and the nation's financial system was on the verge of collapse," he said. "This is the result of greed on Wall Street. Millions lost homes, jobs and their life savings."

Sanders went on to list the differences between the two sides on just about everything: health care, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, women's issues and the environment.

"To deal with the deficit, (the Republicans) want to cut virtually every program that working families depend upon," he said.

But, he said, getting Obama re-elected would not be enough. "It is absolutely imperative that we defeat right-wing extremism," he said. "Second, we have to build an educated, politically informed movement to put pressure on the White House and say you have to worry about us and not just the guys on Wall Street."

Laurie McCray, vice president of the Portsmouth Democratic Committee, came to hear Sanders with her son Michael Nowak. Nowak is 23 and has Down syndrome.

"My son fully accepts personal responsibility," McCray said. "He does need Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid." She said he works three part-time jobs. "He's looking for a hand-up, not a hand-out," she said.

McCray said she grew up in Michigan when Mitt Romney's father, George, was governor.

"My parents and their friends would not vote for the Romney of today," she said. "I wish all Americans could have the wealth distribution and power of such a small group of those in Congress that are making decisions affecting all Americans."

Caroline French of Dover said Medicare and Social Security are not in jeopardy, as the Republicans "would have us believe." "The fear-mongering is shameless," she said.

Barbara and John Gregg of Portsmouth came to hear Sanders speak. "He has the right ideas," Barbara Gregg said. "We need to change the tax structure. The inequality of incomes is a big issue."

Lenore Patton of Hampton said there are a lot of issues important to her. "The Affordable Health Care Act has made a tremendous difference with me. I have a lot of health issues and Obama has done away with the lifetime limit on major surgeries," she said. "(The Republicans) also have to stop the war on women's health issues."

Younger people in the audience had concerns about women's rights like Aubrey Sambor, 31, of Portsmouth. She was accompanied by Ted Pennings, a 25-year-old software developer from Portsmouth.

"Health care and the economy are big issues for me right now," he said.

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[-] 2 points by mideast (506) 1 year ago

The ultimate third party candidate asks us not to vote for a third party
Do you like Bernie?
Do you think his position on issues agree with yours?
Do you think he understands our political & economic systems?
I will take his advice.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Because we are not yet set up for third parties, they can't win in most elections. That means that every vote for a third party is a vote that doesn't go to the party that opposes the RW RepubliCon party, Dems. Which makes it one vote easier for Cons to win. This is why third parties get a lot of support from Cons. Every vote that goes to the 3rd is a vote for the Cons. Cons love 3rds as long as they are not viable. We need IRVs to help make 3rds viable.

Bernie rocks! So do his positions.

The RepubliCons for whatever reason have gone completely RW fucking teabag crazy: "Rape is God's Will." "Corporations are People." "Teachers are the Problem." "Tax cuts for the Rich will create more Jobs." "Coal is the Answer." "Global Warming is a Hoax." etc. etc.

Bernie Sanders, like Noam Chompsky, like Dennis Kucinich, and like any reasonable, sane, American and non-American, just don't want these RW nutbag RepubliCons in our government anymore!! Nothing good ever comes from Cons!! We've had enough!! NO MORE!!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Bernie Sanders has endorsed the President.

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[-] -1 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

Bernie Sanders Denounces Obama-GOP Tax Cut in 8.5-Hour Senate Speech, Says U.S. Becoming "Banana Republic" Monday, December 13, 2010 "The bill caused an uproar when it was announced last week, but no one voiced more powerful opposition than Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT). He took to the floor of the Senate at 10:24 a.m. on Friday morning to denounce the tax-cut plan. He did not yield the floor back until 6:59 p.m., more than eight-and-a-half hours later. We play highlights of his address" [includes rush transcript] http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/13/bernie_sanders_denounces_obama_gop_tax

[-] -2 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

"Because we are not yet set up for third parties, they can't win in most elections." Bullshit. They only "can't win" if we never vote for them. We have always had the power to elect whoever we want into office. Let's Get Real. Answer me this: What would happen if everyone voted for Jill Stein? Jill Stein would become our next president. It's that simple. I've HAD ENOUGH of Obama and fake democrats just as much as I've HAD ENOUGH of republicans. This fear mongering and lesser of 2 evils mentality is Dangerously Retarted and it makes me sick. It keeps The Plutocracy firmly in power and unchecked. And it continues to make a "Mockery" of what could be A Real Democracy.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Go back to school, or go back to RepubliCon sabotage camp and Limbau.

[-] 0 points by nameisthase (-12) 1 year ago

It's been my experience that it is far better to vote for a great candidate that loses than a loser who actually wins.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Jill Stein will NEVER be President. No 3rd party can win under the current election/campaign laws. Never has and never will until those laws change.

But you're right if everyone votes for her she will be the next President.

You know that everyone will NOT vote for her. Not half, Not one quarter. She won't get 5% ofthe popular vote and 0 electoral.

C'mon. We gotta be real! Let's agree to work toward the changes that can create fairaccess for 3rd parties, 'Move to Amend', Open debates, "National Popular vote interstate Compact". These things are possible. Already in the works. They need our help.

Whatta you think?

[-] 2 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

I don't think everyone knows that. The corruption is si bad nowadays most people can see it. And as Jill pointed out a lot of the people who don't vote d( it because of that corruption. As it is the two parties have about a quarter of the vote each, if that.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

So what percent of the vote do you think she will get?

So vote for her. I may too. but what about my suggestion?

Let's agree to work toward the changes that can create fair access for 3rd parties, 'Move to Amend', Open debates, "National Popular vote interstate Compact". These things are possible. Already in the works. They need our help.

Whatta you think?

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

Depends on the next month. If progressives actually back her instead of obama we could take the election, especially since gary johnson seems like he should be appealing to conservatives. Even without support of the progressive establishment I can see her pulling 15 mil votes. I support opening debates to third party and believe elections need to be publicly funded. We need strong anti corruption laws with hefty jail sentences attached, that includes making it illegal to work for an industry you used to oversee. My gut feeling about getting rid of the electoral college is it's a good idea but I want to make sure it won't discourage the voters in small states. My biggest concern about obama being reelected is that the left will keep making excuses for obama and won't acknowledge the stripping of our rights. But to be honest the ACLU's fight against the NDAA gives me hope that we won't just roll over and give up.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

If people can maintain & grow a real movement to protest all pols failures including rights violations etc. we can force change.

I would love to see a real progressive as President, as well as real progressives in congress, Unfortunately much of the country is right wing wackos. Over time we can change that and move things to the left.

15million votes for Stein? That would be encouraging but I don't see it. I'd be surprised if she get's 5 million.

[-] 0 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

I don't think we are right wing in general. We agree on SS, Medicare, Civil Rights for all, Upgrading our infrastructure, Corruption of money in politics, etc. The problem is our govt has been pushed so far right for the benefit of the wealthy. It's so bad that healthcare reform that is designed to give more money to the top is seen as a democrat platform. The democrats in office had the chance to show what progressive plans can do and instead were closer to reagan then carter. So with our impatience as an electorate we didn't see that the problem was we were to conservative and vote in actual progressives. Instead we got 2010. This year the republicans have gone so far right I see a big democrat year and nothing will change with the big business take over. We will see how well Stein does. If it's as good as I think then we can set ourselves up for third party candidates in 2014.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I do agree that whatever happens w/ the Pres we should focus on electing as many real progressives to congress & local office in 2014.

I also agree that healthcare was more conservative than progressive except that it represents the1st time we established healthcare as a 'right'.

The conservative nature of the details is a direct result of the powerful right wing (astro turf) tea party protests! Progressives stayed sleeping, we are now awakening and can change healthcare (adding public option) & create change that benefits the 99%.

It's up to us. not the Pres. We gotta push all pols towards the left, or we will be letting the right pull us towards them.

[-] 0 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

I guess the next two years will show if I'm right or wrong about obama. No matter what the next two years will be crucial in stopping the assaults upon us.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Obama gets no break. He is only better than Romney, & we MUST keep repubs out. So we WILL protest Pres Obama (& all pols) for progressive change. Or nothing will change.

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[-] -1 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

“But you're right if everyone votes for her she will be the next President. You know that everyone will NOT vote for her. Not half, Not one quarter.”

Because most American voters are still Brainwashed! And Dangerously Retarded! Bunch of spineless sheep following each other off a cliff. -Doesn’t mean the rest of us should keep following them like dumb-asses :-)

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Yeah man. Thats the answer! Let's call everyone names.

I suppose we don't have to convince everyone (or even half) to support changing the election/campaign laws. In fact I think we need to only convince a small fraction of people to support the movements I listed.

That would be a meaningfull start. (More to be sure)

How many of the brainwashed can we get to support 'Move to Amend'? How many of the dangerously retarded (thats offensive dude! you and Ann Coulter should refrain from the r word) can be made to support open real debates? Any spineless sheep able to be led to push the 'Natl Pop. Vote Intersate Compact'?

Less than is required to elect a 3rd party.

You didn't answer. Are you willing to support these efforts?.

Rather than expending energy uselessly insulting the people we need for change, you might do better pushing these necessary, valuable movements.

No?

[-] -1 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

I'll be glad when this election is over and all of you Neo-Liberal cheerleaders of the Top 1% go back to where you came from. But until then, I'll be calling it exactly how I see it. Welcome to The Revolution.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Calling me names changes nothing. You can't bully me boss.

Why wait to support these movements. Is it not an urgent issue for you.

Is your priority to insult people not change the system.

Do you think bulling people might change their minds? Or do you get a kick out of lifting your self up by putting other people down?

[-] -3 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

Blah blah blah blah, no? Blah blah blah blah, yes? don't you agree? Blah blah? lol

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

LOL. There it is. Valuable, intelligent, discourse. You aren't serious about change. You only want to disrupt the movement towards a better world.

Peace. Good luck in all your good efforts.

[-] -2 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

Peace Be Unto You also my friend. Good luck with Obama and with his predator drone attacks...all of those civillian casualties, those continued Bush tax cuts for the rich, Guantanamo Bay still torturing people, the continued Patriot Act, The NDAA and your upcoming war with Iran :-)

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Pres Obama resisted your right wing war mongering pressure to invade Iran. And is starting talks to resolve our issues without war.

Very few Civilian casualties as I recall with those bad drone strikes (I'm against drone strikes) I support the reduction from 120 in 2010 to 35 this year in Pakistan. On our way to zero. Protest, Protest, Protest!

Gitmo would be closed if your repubs didn't obstruct. Pres Obama has resolved more than half of your boy Bushs left over cases in gitmo, and has ended Bushs waterboarding and other torture. Also ended extraordinary rendition and secret cia camps.

Pres Obama has also NEVER used the indef detention authority that repubs created in 2002, wrote into law in 2011, and whose dem attempt at repeal they defeated in May 2012.

Any other partisan lies you wanna spew? Workin for repubs are you?

[-] -2 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

LOL partisan lies my ass lol How many times do I have to say it? The republican party is a piece of dog shit and the democrat party is a piece of dog shit with cheese. And I fuckin HATE this corrupt 2party system. Workin for the repubs am I? You really are a Retarded Dumbass LOL

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

"retarded dumbass"? Offensive, very right wing wacko of you. You lose!

Loser!

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

This should be ABC, or 101 for any progressive who gives a fig about the lives of this nation's poor, or Iranians, or Syrians, or women, or old people...I've seen comments that sum up as thus: " I'm an okay off white guy and I don't care what happens in the elections..."

[-] 0 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Obama "Hope and Change," and the coming of age of "Boomer Babies"(c), have summoned a lot of political newbies. But unlike the political generation before them, their political mettle was not tempered with JFK-MLK assassinations, Vietnam, riots and Watergate. Their views are softer and shallower and narrower. Let's work on that. I think their collective thought needs help, too.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Yes and sometimes in trying to open someone's eyes a good slap in the face is what's called for. No? http://www.matchdoctor.com/blog_100866/Thanks_I_needed_that_remember_that_old_commercial.html

[-] -3 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

If he supports Obama he's not much of a ind.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Get it through you skull, it's not about party!!

That's why Cons are so fucked up. That and the 1% they work for.

It's about what's best for the country! The people! Posterity!

[-] -1 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

Obama is a right wing, conservative republican, dressed up like a democrat, bought and paid for by The Top 1%, who has continued most of the policies of George W Bush! How is THAT "what's "best" for our country"???

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

You are partially right. But effectively dead wrong.

There are multitudes of accomplishments achieved by this president that the RW RepubliCons would never touch. You can easily look them up. Either this whole "political thing" is just too new to you, or you are a troll!

[-] 0 points by NVPHIL (667) 1 year ago

Yet you notice his accomplishments don't do a damn thing to slow down the corporate take over of govt. No accountability for the bankers who drove us over the edge, no meaningful regulations to protect us, no charges against war crimes bush commited, no protection against the police state, he might have ended rendition just to put NDAA in place, and don' forget his kill list. This is not the resume of a president who is willing to fight for the people.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

He signed legislation to reign in Wall Street. He would do more if RepubliCons in Congress would govern and compromise instead of sabotage and hold us hostage.

The POTUS is not DICTATOR!!!

It's very hard to reel in a whale with one 50 Lb test line, but many can do it!

Participate!

Democracy ~ contrary to 1% RepubliCon propaganda ~ IS NOT a spectator sport!!

[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Pres Obama is obviously a moderate. And has ended Bush II policies especially in regards to the war on terror.

Your confused.

[-] 0 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

Holy Cow! you really are in serious denial dude, I wish I could help you, I really do. If this was The Matrix, you've already swallowed an entire bottle of Blue Pills...and I'm not sure if it's even possible to wake up from that.

[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Or you are.

One or the other IS true. Difference is I don't resort to the childishness of name calling because my arguments stand u to truth and civil discussion.

Alas, yours do not.

Peace

[-] -1 points by nameisthase (-12) 1 year ago

It's been my experience that it is far better to vote for a great candidate that loses than a loser who actually wins.

Peace & Praise be to Allah.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

And my experience that it is most important to keep the right wing out of power while we create the new system.

Shalom

[-] -3 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

would you be calling him an ind if he supported Romney would you? Because if you say no then you would be a hypocrite. If he supports either side he's not an ind. he just a guy who couldn't get elected under his party name. How's that sinking in your skull?

[-] 3 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

If he supported Romney I'd say he needs his head examined. Just like everyone else that supports Romney and that Batshit Crazy Paul Ryan.

[-] -2 points by nameisthase (-12) 1 year ago

It's all about looks, anyway. Ryan is going to draw far more of the female and Gay vote than you imagine.

[-] 2 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

You mean Eddie Munster?

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[-] 1 points by stevebol (1243) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

So he's like, dreamy to them? OK, whatever. Ayn Rand is still a goofy bat. Ryan actually believes her baloney.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

My girlfriend thinks he's an unattractive nerd.

[+] -4 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Batshit crazy Obama is no better. Supporting either one would require a person to need their head examined neither candidate represents freedom.

[-] 2 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

Freedom is overrated. True freedom would mean anarchy. It needs to be balanced with safety and security. The freedom to be safe and secure. When your dead because of lack of security your freedom won't mean much.

If your health, happiness, pursuit of prosperity is being trampled on by corporate power run amok, driven by an unrestrained profit motive, which often conflicts with societal well being, or is even given unfair advantage, you're not free. It's just tyranny by another type of entity. Like Bain Capital. The heads I win, tails you lose business model. Now that's some kind of crazy tyrannical shit. That is only made possible by low interest rates, access to credit, leverage transfers and a ridiculously low capital gains tax rate.

[-] -3 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

You point out freedom trampled by corp. but leave out gov. From that sentence. That's very telling, freedom may scare you it doesn't me. You think gov should hol your hand unilateral the day you die, provide you with everything, what you don't realize is you just traded the tyrant of bus. For gov. Gov should have limited role in your life not cradle to grave care.

[-] 3 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

Is that you getting deleted again podman? Try to settle down. It seems like you're having some kind of terrible hissy fit. Really. It's not necessary. Try to act like a sane adult. Not a crazy person. Fake it if you have to. I'd really like to know your thoughts. Don't lose that charm of yours. But try to keep it together podman.

How did you get interested in Anarcho-capitalism? What do you think it's merits are? What attracts you to a rather obscure system?

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[-] 3 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

Yikes. Looks like your reply got deleted. Try again. Don't get overly emotional. It's childish. Try to use your brain Sweet Potato.

Did you just figure out you're an Anarcho-capitalist? It's ok. Some people believe in that type of thing. You don't need to get all lunatic about it.

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[-] 1 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

I don't think government should hold my hand. But I know that only government has the power to restrain corporate greed and power that's run amok. So it doesn't trample over all of us. Capitalism has great power. The profit motive doesn't have a conscience. If it's not used properly, if not regulated properly, it has the power to do alot of damage to society. Macro economic forces can't be sufficiently controlled by individual liberty. It's ludicrous.

I don't think government should provide us with everything. But it should provide for safety and security for the general welfare of society. Government is a reflection of ourselves. To fear it, is to fear ourselves.

To fear the unrestrained power of capitalism is completely rational. That's why Adam Smith proposed laisezz faire capitalism. Not Anarcho-capitalism. Or it's warmed over cousins Libertarianism or Neo-liberalism.

Sorry. I don't believe in Anarcho-capitalism.

I agree the government should be limited. But it shouldn't be so small to fit in my vagina and own my uterus. It should be large enough to not fit in my vagina and as large as necessary to control and properly regulate the brute forces of capitalism.

You've got horrible writing skills by the way. You should try to form complete sentances. Avoid the use of run on sentances. Your grammer in general needs work.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Im going to assume your misspelling grammar and sentences at the end of your rant was on purpose :)

Nothing stops corporate greed like the people deciding they arent going to purchase from them anymore.

[-] 3 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

Nobody's perfect. Typos happen.

'Nothing stops corporate greed like the people deciding they arent going to purchase from them' - it's a nice thought. Wholly unrealistic, but nice. In a perfect world sure. But when communities are dominated by monopolies, the choices are limited. When communities are dependent on Walmart, people can't decide not to purchase from them. Walmart affords cheap low cost goods from China. Communities whose jobs have been shipped to China are now more dependent on cheap low cost goods. It's a perfect business model.

Like I said, individuals are often at the mercy of macro economic forces.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Good point

[-] 2 points by Buttercup (1067) 1 year ago

Which one? Typos or monopolies?

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

haha monopolies...

[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 1 year ago

On the other hand your writing is very colorful Bcup. I think it is getting a bit hot in here. ;-)

~Odin~

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[-] 2 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

The Romney Economy Part 2: Sensata shuts down plant in panic!

by David Pinar on Oct. 19, 2012, under Pol. & Govt.

    Photo courtesy of the brave Sensata workers at Bainport.

The Sensata plant at Freeport Illinois shut down early today, closing the plant for the entire weekend, barricading the entrances and telling 2nd shift workers not to report. They’re doing this out of panic. What are they afraid of?

That’s right – they’re afraid of The Ed Show! That would be MSNBC’s Ed Shultz, who does an hour long show from 5PM-6Pm Arizona time on MSNBC. And tonight he’s broadcasting his show live from Bainport, the tent city Sensata workers have set up across the road from the Sensata factory. Panic!!! Ed Shultz is coming to Freeport! Send the workers home and barricade the entrances! He might try to come over and ask us some questions, questions we don’t want to answer. Questions like since you sell your sensors to GM & Chrysler and subsidiaries of Siemens, who sells them to Japanese car makers with assembly factories in the US, why are you moving your operation to China, thousands of miles away, even though you claim it’s to be “closer” to your customers? It couldn’t be because even though the Freeport factory set profit records last year with American workers, you think you can make even more profits paying Chinese workers 99 cents an hour? To hell with American workers, to hell with the economic devastation your plant closure will have on the community of Freeport – cheap Chinese workers = even more profit. Our investors will be able to build an elevator for their cars!

The Sensata Freeport factory is now scheduled to close November 5 – the day before the election. On election day Sensata workers will go cast their ballots, and then go file for unemployment compensation, many for the first time in their life – unless we, the American people can get them to stop it! Go to Bainport.com and sign their petition. Write your Congress and Senate representatives. And watch the Ed Show tonight, at 5PM Arizona time, for the real story of what’s happening at Sensata Freeport/Bainport.

The Romney Economy – all our manufacturing jobs outsourced to China, while we all work at Walmart or McDonalds. Sensata is owned by Bain Capital – Mitt Romney could stop this plant closing tomorrow if he really wanted to “stand up to China” like he claims.

[+] -6 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

What does that have to do with the question I asked?

[-] 0 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

?----?

[-] -3 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Sorry, I asked would you be calling him an ind. if he supported Romney?

[-] 0 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Romney sends American jobs to China for profit at the expense of Americans.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

he still supports the world's largest prison system like Romney does.

he still supports using illegal drones strikes like Romney does.

he still thinks a possible war against Iran is necessary if Iran doesn't stop it's nonexistent WMD program just like Romney does.

he supports crippling a civilian economy in Iran just like Romney does. You know how shitty a crappy economy makes your day? Imagine if Iran put sanctions on our country that decreased your dollar by 80% in a year.

he still supports a monetary policy that gives unlimited resources to Wall Street just like Romney does.

he isn't working to get Americans a living wage just like Romney isn't.

he isn't working to reform trade laws to abide by American labor standards to bring jobs back to America and increase standards for countries that want to do trade, just like Romney isn't.

I could go on and on about the bullshit of the corrupt 2 party system paid for by the 1%

[-] -1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Your tired old litany of skewed accusations might be worth considering if NOT for the blatant bias and exclusion. They both eat mashed potatoes, you know.

It does NOT take much to accuse, that's why RepubliCons are sooo good at it. It's easy, hamfisted, and their audience thinks fact checking is "uh Librill Plot."

You and I both know that there are multitudes of great humanitarian accomplishments achieved by Obama and Dems that RepubliCons would not EVER touch. But you always mysteriously exclude them.
Just like you and everyone on this board KNOWS that you elcusivly denigrate and sabotage of Dems, which aids and abets RepubliCons going into the election. Just admit the evil.

You even disregard your supposed heroes, Sanders and Kucinich and Chompsky, who all support Obama and down ballot Dems to stave off RW RepubliCon insanity. Sup, dude!?

But if you deny working for the Cons, you are telling everybody you would RATHER take us all into 8 years of "Mandated" RW Shock Doctrine for which untold lives and treasure will be lost and from which the carnage will take decades to recover, than compromise giving us four more years to recover and organize from the latest Wrath of Cons!

Which makes you evil AND crazy.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Everything I listed in my previous comment is fact.

ignorance is bliss though right?

Keep voting for war. I'll be voting for someone who doesn't want to bomb a country in 2013.

Money has corrupted the election process.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

You are corruption in progress.

[+] -4 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Obama not a stitch better, beyond that would you?

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Back to the camp, troll.

[-] -2 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

To chickenshit to answer.....I see, sad.

[-] 3 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Never a good idea to mud wrestle a pig.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (5271) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Podman what happened to ya??

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