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Forum Post: RP Farewell Speech.... Like Him or Not, This is a Good Speech

Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 28, 2012, 9:19 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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I know there are some here that dont like libertarian views in their entirety, but this is a good piece to listen to when doing your internet surfing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q03cWio-zjk

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Good?

Nah, it's more libe(R)tarian, (R)epelican't clap trap, that's mostly GOOD for 1%.

You just have to know what the man has really been about all those years.

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/ron-pauls-farewell-speech-congress-lays-bare-his-hatred-pure-democracy-and-love

Plus you have to remember that as a career politician he's always been full shit.

[-] 0 points by ivyquinn (167) 11 years ago

I don't trust any politician, but his voting record does speak for the people. As far as his true intentions, that has yet to be seen. However, he is helping remove drones from city airspace. And for that he gets a thumbs up.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Ya gotta like those......"but"s.

It's a long informative accurate article.

You should have read it instead of quoting from his propaganda book.

[-] 0 points by ivyquinn (167) 11 years ago

I did read it. Keeping that in mind I still support ridding our society of drones. That doesn't constitute me being a paulbot, I just prefer to focus on progress rather than trolling one set ideology like yourself.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

LOL. You funny guy.

Noncommittal too.

So what is this progress you're focused on?

Increasing unionization?

Spreading teachers union participation?

Halting fossil fuel proliferation?

Spreading the truth about global warming?

Supporting tolerance of LBGTs?

I'm just not hearing much commitment.

Mostly you've been promoting libe(R)tarians, with a blind eye, as that article was pretty damning..

[-] 1 points by ivyquinn (167) 11 years ago

Education-- helping teachers get the pay they deserve, promoting free thought through community volunteering, outside of indoctrination centers, as well as union participation.

Energy--I encourage a more green way for our future (jobs, as well as equal access to technolgy). I protest fossil fuels by not driving, and walking everywhere possible without public transportation.

Global Climate Change-- I encourage people to look at geo engineering, as well as the human footprint.

LGBT--I'm a lesbian... >.>

I'm not a libertarian. I don't label myself. That's called free thought.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

1.) That's pretty noncommittal. What exactly is an "indoctrination" center that you approve of? Even home schooling is a form of indoctrination.

The front lines of teacher unions is a war against ALEC, and that makes it a war against people like the Kochs, and those people are by and large libe(R)tarian.

2.) Can't disagree here, but would like to see you participate in those threads, and there's plenty of them that the green supporters get attacked in. they would appreciate the support, you can be sure..

3.) See the thread on Occupy Hurricane Exxon Mobile.......er Occupy Sandy. Well produced video. Here too many users get beat up by right wingers in global warming threads. And yes, by and large they are admitted right wingers. So help 'em out, and it'll take more than geo to pull it off..

4.) So's my daughter, and I worked with LG and Bs, for many years, in a very physical work environment, with no issues.See my thread called "punishing tolerance".

5.) If you're not, the next time you want to start a thread on the left/paradigm, include the right and the libe(R)tarians too. It's my belief that the libe(R)tarian paradigm has done more damage in less time, than either of the other two.

I get a lot of argument on that, but I believe it's true. And they have gone World wide with their "philosophy".

[-] 1 points by ivyquinn (167) 11 years ago

1) I have experienced indoctrination for myself. It wasn't until after graduation did I truly grow into my intellect. As far as ALEC goes its a bit of a reach to say libertarians are the sole war on knowledge, but I'm not very knowledgable on that subject. I'll look into it.

2)I will. I'm new OWS forums. I've been roaming the net (left and right narratives) for somewhere to discuss tangible goals.

3) I've tried to help the blind paulbots see any view other than their own. Unfortunately, their passion for "liberty" blurs the use of the logic. Hence why I left RPF.

4) will do.

5) that was a typo. I'm typing on mobile and the auto correct did me in. I let my views speak for themselves. I am a free thinker. Left/Right...it's all political subversion. I would never propagate any hate towards either side. But I do believe in exposing the truth. I have been literally talking about this for months. I warned Liberty movement users that propagation of the paradigm will fall into their laps.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 11 years ago

Everything said is true. The 1% support welfare because it allows small biz to be taxed for what the 1% doesn't pay in wages. Paul is short on equal rights in many ways but that doesn't nullify any point made in this speech. He addresses the inequality that makes welfare far more in need than it should be.

[-] -1 points by ivyquinn (167) 11 years ago

Kudos for posting this.