Forum Post: Republicans Have Been Deceived by a Satanist
Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 24, 2012, 9:41 p.m. EST by Shubee
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Have you heard the persistently advocated Republican/Libertarian message that the evils of socialism will ruin the United States? It should be understood that the originator of that belief was a Satanist, a very hard-working advocate of the first demon's message. Her name was Ayn Rand.
See Ayn Rand's first television interview at http://everythingimportant.org/
So why aren't we hearing debates on the evils of insurance? Shouldn't there be a law requiring drivers to have car insurance? Why is social justice and social responsibility evil? If State required car insurance is morally justifiable, then why is State mandated health insurance labeled socialism? Isn't Social Security just an efficient, very reasonable, government-run insurance policy?
Finally, why are so many professing Christians parroting the propaganda of a demon-inspired agenda?
I believe many of the Republicans(and Dems) are not deceived, but are the deceivers themselves. D.C. is rife with occultic symbols and architecture. Our officials have long been members of satanic/occult organizations (skull and bones, freemasons, theosophists, think tanks having evil agendas, etc.). Many of our highest policy makers flock to Bohemian grove and to perform "mock ?" human sacrifice rituals.
The Republican logo itself officially changed it's stars in 2000 from normal orientation to Baphomet point down orientation. The satanist pentagram. Three of them appear on the Republican logo. Our military is controlled by the "Pentagon" that orders terror throughout the globe. Our govt policies have been solely to promote world govt under a new world order prophesied in revelations.
Rest assured there is plenty of evil present in high places.
I have been told by two different policemen that satanism is far more common than most people think. One said he thought it was strange that the media keeps that fact from the public. You are right, the Republican logo has three satanic pentagrams on it. It makes sense, look at the evil agenda the republicans have followed since 2000. They probably have many satanists in their ranks.
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Much of what you said agrees with http://everythingimportant.org/ except for the analysis and Noam Chomsky videos presented there that make it clear that the only one world government that reigns over the kings of the earth is the United States.
I am not saying I don't agree with gov mandated health insurance but the difference between that and car insurance is that you can injury someone else or someone else's property with your car, so you have to have liability insurance. You do not have to have collision insurance.
Social Security is bankrupt. It isnt efficient or reasonable. If SSI is your metric for efficiency, you are a complete loon.
and your metric for efficiency - enron or maybe goldman . you are very much incorrect on social security - bankrupt - you must listen to rush
here is my metric
http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/trustee12-pr.html
Is that efficient?
It says, "The Social Security Board of Trustees today released its annual report on the financial health of the Social Security Trust Funds. The combined assets of the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) Trust Funds will be exhausted in 2033, three years sooner than projected last year."
That's a consistent and logical consequence, according to Noam Chomsky, of the Republican strategy of first defunding a social program, letting it collapse from a lack of funds, and then putting forth the pretense of coming to the rescue to save the system by privatizing it, which means turning it over to for-profit corporations.
I say stop the for-profit wars of conquest, which are only a source of national insecurity, and there will be plenty of tax dollars for what people want, namely, real security.
There s no lack of funds. Its an over promse of benefits.
You can whatever the heck you want, when SSI was frst started, there were 16 workers per retiree, now its 2.8 workers per retiree. There is an 8.6 trillion dollar deficit and if you include Medicare, by 2075 the deficit in todays dolars will be $75 trillion. I believe te entire Defense Department is about $600 billion. Go ahead a shutter it, fire all soldiers and midshipmen and welders and mechanics and STILL it would take 150 years to clse the SSI/ Medi shortfall.
You idiots simply refuse to acknowledge hard msth stats that cannot be argued. Its 2 plus 2.
BTW Noam Chomsky is the worst kind of hypocrit. At least Paul Ryan argues from real, factual numbers. We need honesty, not Noahs lying bullshit.
Thanks for revealing yourself as hating Noam Chomsky. He is clearly on the side of the occupy wall street movement and you are clearly opposed to the movement. Will you also acknowledge that the Ryanhood plain of Paul Ryan (steal from the poor and give to the rich) is the third demon's message? http://everythingimportant.org/
Does this sound like an anti capitalist?
http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6222
Noam Chomsky s a fraud. He pays high powered lawyers to shield his taxes. He has found an audience in OWS and he is trying to make a buck. He doesnt give 2 shits about OWS, Chomsky is all about Chomsky.
You sound like a devoted slanderer to me. Where are your facts?
http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6222
Are you telling me that Noam Chomsky and Warren Buffett really don’t believe that current tax law is extremely unjust in that it overwhelmingly favors the super-rich? So who is under the greater deception, Noam Chomsky and Warren Buffett or the poor fools that are willfully deceived and are loudly trumpeting the three demons’ messages?
I don’t blame Chomsky for obeying the law of the land and am deeply moved and very thankful that he is preaching the three angels’ messages.
No... Buffet profits from that public stance. And Noam profits from his growing audience.
Noam Chomsky isn’t a theist, yet he condemns the messages that are obviously associated with the dragon, beast and false prophet in the book of Revelation. Why can’t you do the same?
What few people realize, including possibly even Noam Chomsky, is that the number seven, which appears repeatedly in Revelations, holds real significance for evolutionary reason. The very concept of a "political correctness" violates reason... "seven" is the proper evolutionary determinant in all things.
I have no idea what Noam thinks of the Bible but as a Leftist icon I dare say that few would turn to him for the purpose of intellectual biblical exegesis.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "Noam isn't a theist." Are you saying he's a polytheist? Or are you trying to say he considers himself an atheist?
On the evolutionary scale there is no such thing as an atheist; in short they do not and cannot exist anywhere in the world. There is no other possibility.
I have heard nothing of Noam regarding the three messages.... what exactly did he say?
Why would I do the same? I am a living entity, a separate being... why would I even consider that I should be the same as Noam Chomsky - or anyone else - for that matter?
Are you to suggest that his intellectual ability trumps mine and that I should therefore concede all personally possessed cerebral territory?
You know... in most of the world the "Leftist" is a dying breed; I mean this in a physical sense - Western Europe has moved so far Left it no longer produces the sperm cells sufficient to ensure their survival. You cannot deny evolution.
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When did you first discover that you have the ability to read the minds of others?
I've always been aware of not only an immense curiosity but also a greater awareness. And whether we are speaking of math, science, philosophy, or art, etc... this one characteristic defines all manner of intelligence. Quite simply, they see things others do not... and sometimes in rather extreme form.
Cat got your tongue?
more facts with footnotes and sources
http://www.newsofinterest.tv/politics/book_summaries/daisnaid/daisnaid_chomsky.php
You can worship whomever you want, but Chomsky is a utter fraud.
Edward Ulrich, creator of newsofinterest, is a stunt coordinator for the movie industry.
Who says he knows anything about anything, politically? His opinion is all he has, and apparently that's enough for you?
so in 2033 (if their economic predictions are correct - big if don't you think) they will be able to pay 75% benefits forever - yes it seems very efficient. the checks arrive on time every month - extremely efficient. and lets raise the cap to 250k and we are good for another 75 years or more - no let's raise it to the sky and we are good forever! good idea no?
I haven't studied it and I suspect that you haven't studied the hard data either. I confess that I am accepting the testimony of Noam Chomsky on this. Who has proven him wrong?
http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/trustee12-pr.html
how about this?
You may want to consider getting back on your meds...
What's so crazy about exposing and denouncing the greatest political evils on the planet?
Here’s a nice contrast between the thinking of the Occupy Movement when it comes to health care versus the ideology of the Democrats and Reichpublicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvo9O4A18d0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs8guTJRbP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHY21VA8WE
That's a helluva lot of questions for one post, my friend.
Religion is the opiate of the masses. Without it, the 1% would all be hiding from the rest of us. It's all about guilt trips, and pretence, and money. The Vatican is the richest organisation in the world, so why are there so many starving homeless people? Is gold worth more than life? It would appear to be, if you look at the bigger picture in organised religion.
State-mandated health care, and social security for all, are not the hallmarks of socialism. They are the right of every human on earth.
Insurance is one more of the ponzi schemes thought up by the 1%, so they don't have to do anything to stay wealthy.
Weren't you satisfied when I said that the Republican/Libertarian message originated from Ayn Rand, a satanist? Wasn't that good enough?
I'm Australian, which means I speak the Queen's English. Liberal means "open-minded". Progressive means "forward-thinking". Conservative means preserving cultural values.
Not sure what language you guys are using, but Citizen's United certainly doesn't have anything to do with uniting the people.
Who said anything about Citizen's United? I don't even know who they are.
Citizen's United is all about deceipt by the 1% including the rebubliCONs.
Satan, on the other hand, is a fabrication from an era of mythology.
it's like calling a law to limit marriage
the defense of marriage act
misrepresentation
you shall know them by their deeds, not by their words.
they must twist the religion inside out, to justify their political hypocrisy
or permit themselves to be conned by deceivers
anyway, jesus wasn't political
but as you point out, was concerned with human suffering and economic justice for the poor
hence, the name is appropriately repbubli-cons
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You are correct. He was a political dissident of Jewish sabbath law, and he defied Rome's court, refusing to speak in his defense at his trials.
Just checking
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In a way - he did say though - render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
So He was perfectly willing to work from inside the system. ( kinda )
Guess you have to be a Christian and believe in demons....
I believe that you’re far from properly distinguishing between form and substance. The quintessence in the highlighted contrast between the three angels’ messages and the three demons’ messages must be understood as the difference between the incredible good and the incredible evil.
So I do need to be a Christian?
If you want me to guess your needs, then my guess is that you need to stop advocating the third demon's message (nicely exposed here http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32284.htm by Paul Craig Roberts).
Answer the question. Put away the myth garbage and answer the question.
If you want to achieve your objective, then you need to cease your pretentious act, become courageous and work harder at serving power.
Take your Zionist worshipping religion and shove it.
The worshipers of the Zionist State of Israel are all the Democrat and Republican members of Congress as well as the Christian Zionist churches. I serve another God. http://everythingimportant.org
you're a lunatic
A Satanist is a worshiper of Satan or the powers of evil. Are you defending Ayn Rand?
You could also say that a satanist worships him or herself. Remember the story of Lucifer? He was jealous of God, and raised a rebellion against him so that he could take over heaven and be worshipped as God.
The people whom we call "idols", such as pop stars and famous actors, could be thought of as satanic since they want other people to worship them. Anyone who wants to be worshipped is following satanic principles.
That's a very good point. I agree.
An interesting article in Yahoo was posted recently, discussing satanism in old Tibet:
http://voices.yahoo.com/human-sacrifice-feudalist-tibet-2102408.html?cat=37
Ancient societies such as the Babylonians, Egyptians and Aztecs were like this as well.
there is no Satan, fruitcake.
magic isn't real. there's nothing to be afraid of.
some people value the individual over the collective. doesn't make them evil. open your mind. let the supernatural spooky nonsense go. embrace rationalism.
Ayn Rand worshiped evil. Her philosophy is evil. That's makes her a satanist. I'm not claiming that Ayn Rand's devotion to her evil philosophy proves that Satan exists. Embrace understanding.
There is much to fear and there is plenty to celebrate. I choose good over evil. http://everythingimportant.org/
you use your opinion to create a make-believe fact.
amusing. or, as Mr Spock would say, "most illogical."
I feel better now. Some jackass named "slizzo" who is guided in life by "Mr Spock" quotes, says there is no evil or Satan. Also I'm happy to hear conspiracys don't exist either, they're only just theories.
Slizzo, you live a sheltered life. Throw out you Star Trek collection. Move out of you momma's basement and get out into the real world. You'll find out real quick evil exists when some evil mf'er bitch slaps your ass.
Hey Scotty, beam this piece of slizzo up.
Just curious, what's your definition of evil?
Evil is a category of improper acts, thoughts and desires, which are the opposite of good. For example, justice, mercy and truth are good and opposing justice, mercy and truth is evil. Likewise, the three demons’ messages are evil and the messages of God’s loyal angels are good.
one mention of Spock and you have this kind of 3rd grade reaction?
assumptions to the sky, making an ass of yourself.
very amusing, jerkoff.
and if you believe in Satan, calling me "sheltered" is laughable.
guy with a van dyke, in red pajamas, pointing a pitchfork at people...that makes sense to you? he lives underground in fiery caves, huh? but I'm sheltered?
wow. you're hilarious.
Most rational persons believe that evil exists. What are you, a Buddhist?
nice switch from Satan, the make-believe person in red pajamas, to evil, a much more vague term open to interpretation.
what sort of "evil" do you mean? evil on a spiritual plane, or bad things people?
I'm rational, so I do not believe in the former.
of course the latter exists. people do awful things all the time. is that what you mean? you think ayn rand worships the molestation of children? the murder of rivals for personal gain? is that the evil you think she and others "worship"?
I believe that the link in the opening post presented a very clear revelation on the three demons’ messages. Ayn Rand worshiped the first demon’s message, which declares: "Altruism is evil."
As long as you adhere to the superstitious, magical thinking that takes the "three demons" literally, I don't see the point of continuing. As I find all supernatural to be an absurdity, and you don't, where would this discussion go, other than nowhere fast?
But I do find it curious how your initial comments that we're so broad and sweeping you would indignantly ask me if I was actually defending Ayn rand, and now we're already down to one measly demon (out of three!) that she worships, and it isn't even a really evil one that likes killing or torture. She worships the demon of austerity. Say, that sure it evil!
How much of a mindless statist does one have to be to think that evil supernatural forces are at work trying to keep the national finances sustainable?
Do pinko toddlers have nightmares featuring the horrible demon of thrift and his bloodthirsty demands for accountability and self-sufficiency? Horrors!
You are speaking from the same crippled mindset that plagues others on this thread, which I have already answered. My response to Lucky1 is my response to you.
I believe that you’re far from properly distinguishing between form and substance. The quintessence in the highlighted contrast between the three angels’ messages and the three demons’ messages must be understood as the difference between the incredible good and the incredible evil.
Furthermore, I have written in defense of national financial sustainability ( http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2305 ) and strongly advocate for ending costly wars of conquest that only increase national insecurity. "Half the deficit is military spending." I also favor single-payer health care and eliminating corporate monopolies that have a stranglehold on society. I'm also for democracy and the majority of Americans want a non-profit Social Security system and health care for all. Let's first eliminate the unjust wars of conquest, jail the war criminals, corporate criminals and banksters and it will be easier to calculate exactly how much tax money is available for the social programs that Americans want.
You're being plainly dishonest to represent Ayn Rand as an advocate of austerity. Republicans only advocate austerity for the poor, not the rich.
Boring swerves from a magical thinker.
If you don't approve of the Occupy movement, what are you doing here?
who said that?
You have been defending the principles that enslave mankind.
You're a cartoon character.
It doesn't matter that gods and devils aren't real to us. The fact is, the ruling elite DO believe. The oligarchs are ultra superstitious freaks that base their actions on draconian and ritualistic beliefs. I know how crazy that sounds, but satanism is rampant in the upper echelons. They believe in ALL of it! Satanism, demonology, gods and demigods, numerology and on and on! They live in an entirely different realm than we do.
Remember Nancy Reagan and her astrology cult voodoo bullshit that she followed in the White House? And you think she didn't have influence with Ronnie with that?
What these people do that we never find out about ought to scare the shit out of any rational intelligent person.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20099022,00.html
I agree that satanism is rampant in the upper echelons. And I believe that they should be criticized for being satanists.
you don't know that, you just believe the conspiracy bullshitters who sell that crap. bohemian grove and all that, right?
let me guess, alex jones fan?
Do you think that people who believe in evil forces are also strong in their religious beliefs?
Whether they call them religious beliefs or something else, believing in the supernatural is superstitious nonsense all the same. People choose to do bad things by their own volition (or mental illness). There isn't an unseen force out there making people do bad shit. That's the fairly tale religion tells to keep children and limited adults in check.
You have no idea what satanism is. Satanists are atheists. They believe in no lucifer. Their basic philosophy is if you don't harm others then do as you want. You watch too many movies.
Atheists don't have to believe in Lucifer to be under his control. They only need to parrot his philosophy.
Your Christian bullshit has nothing to do with anything. Go burn some witches.
Yes. Ayn Rand was a satanist blah blah.... Why do you feel this is important?
There are three great globally significant deceptions that control the American mind. Ayn Rand's Objectivism is only the first on my list. All three deceptions need to be exposed and countered.
First of all, you can't collect Social Security unless you contribute for forty quarters and even then it's commensurate. For those self employed, this contribution is voluntary.
Mandated health insurance is radically different in that it mandates a purchase of coverage for all; worse, it freely covers even the non contributing non-citizen without regard to income limit - this isn't socialism, it's a totalitarian communism.
I think many Christians (and are we not ALL Christians, regardless of belief, by virtue of birth in America?) view this administration's agenda as evil in that it is decidedly Un-American on all fronts.
So, like Ron Paul, you want people in the United States to die if they can't afford health insurance?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs8guTJRbP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHY21VA8WE
You are correct in thinking that many Christians believe in the three demons' messages.
No, what I want is an end to the fee-for-services provider, affordable voluntary health insurance, and a safety net for those unable to afford it. I don't believe this is the right approach; I believe it is a corporate approach that has steadfastly refused to address the issue of our far too costly medical care.
I'm not a follower of Ron Paul... and I don't pay all that much attention to the far right either.
health insurance makes no sense since we all need health care
insurance implies a gambled risk
With the ranks of the unemployed growing greater with each and every passing hour, and those dependent on governmental care steadily increasing, single-payer as dependent on tax revenue makes no sense either. On the other hand I don't believe it reasonable to expect foreign nations to pay for American healthcare; nor do I believe that we can print endless supplies of cash and expect it to be of any value whatsoever. Healthcare as health security is not a right, nor is it a privilege; it's a commodity that must be purchased - the question of how we pay for it is one that must be addressed reasonably by people of some relative intelligence. Simply handing it to the insurance companies and saying write the bill and we'll pass it without reading it, as a matter of political expediency, is not an intelligent path.
I'm glad I don't live in funkytown. Who's the mayor? Satan.
Well, I am, of course.
Since you are the mayor you must have a great healthcare plan. As long as you're covered, I wouldn't worry about your citizens.
maybe you can purchase air too while we're at it, ft
Well, you can cry if you want to... but you're just going to expend more oxygen, and that, too, is a commodity in this world.
I've heard healthcare in the US cost twice what it does in other countries
Yup, in some countries people pay with their lives for it. It would be so much nicer if we didn't have to.
the US does not have a better healthcare system
republicans make the dems look good for doing nothing