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Forum Post: Republican War on Students

Posted 2 years ago on April 30, 2012, 11:27 a.m. EST by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA
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  • Good and timely article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/opinion/krugman-wasting-our-minds.html?ref=opinion

  • We need to stop treating our youth as new "profit centers" and begin treating them as the national resources and assets that will build the nation of tomorrow.

  • America's students place near the bottom on math scores.

  • Universities are seeking foreign students who pay much higher tuition to cover their flagging budgets.

  • We don't need just cheaper loans.

  • We need to bring back strong affordable public colleges and public universities.

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[-] 0 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

(R)epelican'ts are anti public schools too.

These you ALEC to do their actual thinking as they attending a lot of ALEC sponsored parties. PS that's tax deductible.

http://www.parentsunited.org/news-events/2012-hot-topic/alec-education-agenda/

Here's report on a resort they take their (R)epelican't "students" to, to teach them how to screw the public "right".

http://prwatch.org/news/2012/02/11272/alec-education-academy-launches-island-resort

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

By bullets:

  1. Yes. This will require change at the lower levels before high school, and parents prioritizing education again.
  2. refer to 2 answer
  3. There is an entire globe of people for the banks to corrupt
  4. Not sure what cheaper loans means? Interest rates?
  5. Yes. But until the country values education, expect more of the same. Most in school are just htere to be there. They dont care about learning.
[-] 0 points by the13thfloor (27) 2 years ago

Democrat, republican. They're all at war with freedom. It would help you a ton to stop branding groups with useless labels and look at people instead of parties. Reattach Flesh!

[-] 2 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

Hmmmm. . . I don't completely agree. Republicans, the ones with money and power, seem to be at war against freedom, middle class, and any regulation that would give them unfettered license to bilk the public. Democrats are just disorganized, and scattered.

[-] 0 points by the13thfloor (27) 2 years ago

Think about what you're saying. Obama- the guys who passed the NDAA, Cispa and, the NDRP. He is definately at war with freedom, they ALL work for the big business bankers and none of them are really trying to help us. It's all rhetoric. The democrats are just as bad, and Im fucking tired of all these Obama freaks. Ron Paul > Obama...

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[-] 0 points by Frog12 (0) 2 years ago

Harvard, Yale, Wash U, and Brown leves schools salud not he free. Am Iby legue level degree should not be free

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

Until we have enough affordable Ivy League schools for everyone, then we need to guaranty quality affordable public universities. A mind is not only a terrible thing to waste, it is also undermining the future strength of our nation by under-developing our human resources. America's greatest asset

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8656) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Ivy League for ivy minds, we cheapen school by letting people buy it

[-] 3 points by JadedGem (895) 2 years ago

Frog, Am Iby legue school that teaches that kind of spelling is worth its weight in gold to be sure. Why give the rich separate and unequal education? And fraternities and all the other garbage they need to promote themselves and their Daddy's money? I don't care if the rich have private schools, but there should be a free route for those interested.

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[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 2 years ago

In fact, Harvard, Yale and most of the other Ivy League schools were talking about making themselves 100% scholarship about 5 years ago, since their endowments were big enough to be self-sustaining into the distant future without the need for tuition. But that was before the market was crashed by the banksters and wiped out a huge chunk of their endowments.

Now, as a result of that crash, they have halted their plans, and even Cooper Union, which has always been 100% scholarship ( and the second most difficult school to get into after Princeton) is now about to start charging tuition.

It is just another of the many tragedies Wall Street greed has wrought.

[-] 0 points by takim (23) 2 years ago

why dont you occupy harvard?

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[-] 0 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

ALEC has been busy since 1985, attempting to subjugate public schools.

Now over 30 years later, we've started to notice. But, is it too late?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/14-12

When you realize how long this Koch funded entity has been at it, you can begin to understand why things are as messed up as they are.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

Better late than never.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

It's going to be an uphill battle, as now they've arraigned things in such a way as to attack the teachers unions.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago
  • Those pesky teachers and professors!

  • Everyone knows they are the root of all our problems.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

Union thug kindergarten teachers!!

To be real, it was just today I learned that ALEC has been working to destroy public education since 85. Plus the "complimentary" legislation.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

It is so very thoughtful that ALEC would spend the time and energy drafting legislation for our elected so-called representatives to introduce. Gee, that enables them to spend more time fund raising for their perpetual campaigns.

[-] 2 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

ALEC is a full on tax deductible charity, so it's "donors" have plenty left over to donate to their cohorts campaigns..

Which in essence means, we the tax payer funded this crap.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

Yes, ALEC, Heritage Foundation and others are 501-tax exempt organizations. So we, the taxpayers, are supporting these organizations that are bent on "shrinking our government to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub" according to Grover Norquist.

Where is the sanity in this nation?

[-] 1 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

It's stuck they're both equally evil mode.

There's similarities in some stuff, but in many others they are worlds apart.

And then there's Lobby King Norquist. How nuts is that?

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

So why don't we scrap tax-exemptions for toxic 501's like ALEC, Heritage Foundation, etc??

[-] 1 points by shooz (17704) 2 years ago

Common Cause has filed suit on ALEC anyway. Hopefully some one will find a case against the others as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/23/alec-irs-complaint-common-cause_n_1445175.html

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[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8656) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

money funded school is just another way to indenture the workers to the owners..

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago

Your point is not clear. Educating our youth should be a top national priority. Thomas Jefferson advocated strong public education system. It has worked well for almost 200 years, until the Republicans began dismantling it, and converting it into another commercial enterprise.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8656) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

good morning Toynbee, I'm on here a bit and forget sometimes which threads I'm in as I keep a consitent position sometimes I don't give the background, if you have not read these peices I urge you to do so, they start to explain my.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-about-a-few-fundamentals-about-capitalism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/fundamentals-of-capitalism-part-two/