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Forum Post: Republican Party To Be Replaced By “Libertarianism”? And Re-branded As “The Liberty Movement”?

Posted 5 years ago on Jan. 18, 2013, 5:16 a.m. EST by KevinPotts (368)
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Republican Party To Be Replaced By “Libertarianism”? And Re-branded As “The Liberty Movement”?

I always hate it when certain words like “Liberty”, “Freedom” and “Democracy” are used against the very ideals in which they are meant to express and the meanings of the words become either completely lost or twisted in an Orwellian Double-Speak kind of way. This is what immediately came to mind while contemplating “The Liberty Movement”: http://www.libertarianism.com/content/the-liberty-movement/lib_mov

According to the above posted website:

“The Liberty Movement is the loose association of think tanks, activist organizations, political parties, and individuals who work to promote the ideas of free markets, civil liberties, and limited government across the globe.”

“Liberty is one of the central lessons of world history. Virtually all the progress the human race has enjoyed during the past few centuries is due to the increasing acceptance of free markets, civil liberties, and self-ownership.”

The Acceptance of Free Markets = Free Market Capitalism = Fuck Poor People

Limited Government Across The Globe = Austerity, Deregulation And Basically Allowing Corporations And The Super-Rich-Elite To Rule The World As They Already Do Right Now And To Allow Nature To Take It’s Course = Survival Of The Fittest = Fuck Poor People

How is that any different than what The Right-Wing-Republicans (And The Spineless Center-Right Democrats) work so well together to accomplish?

Where and how do my “civil liberties” and “self-ownership” come into play when I’m starving to death and homeless because I can’t find a job? Or when I can’t afford an education? Or while I’m spending almost every-single-day-of-my-entire-Life in a totalitarian workplace working for peanuts? How does that make me (And Millions Of Other Oppressed Poor People) “liberated”? and “free”?

I’ve heard talk that The GOP is on its way out the door as a viable political party because their anti-human agenda is just too blatantly obvious and it can’t possibly continue much longer in its current form -that people are finally waking up and no longer willing to accept a poisonous snake (who doesn’t even try to put on make-up to hide its true identity and to at least try to appear “human“) as anything other than a poisonous snake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EodiBQ845_s It may be slowly happening, but I haven’t really seen any evidence of it yet, the voting half of the nation is still pretty much divided almost 50/50 between the-two-corporate-parties. And even if The GOP stepped completely out of the way and all we had were Neo-Liberal Center-Right Corporate-Owned “Democrats” -We would still be in A Lot of Trouble...



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[-] 3 points by brightonsage (4494) 5 years ago

Liberty from Sanity Party? A lipsticked pig as their mascot? A misinformation test for membership? Corruption conviction qualifier for high elected office? A cruelty index for cabinet positions? The white man for the job?

I think it has potential.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33496) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Good comment - but perhaps the Pig is pictured mounting a protesting ( non-legitimate rape victim ) Sloth ( sloth to represent their work ethic ) - depicted rampant on a field of sewage/pollution/industrial/fossil fuel waste?

[-] 1 points by KevinPotts (368) 5 years ago


[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

The Acceptance of Free Markets = Free Market Capitalism = Fuck Poor People

Limited Government Across The Globe = Austerity, Deregulation And Basically Allowing Corporations And The Super-Rich-Elite To Rule The World As They Already Do Right Now And To Allow Nature To Take It’s Course = Survival Of The Fittest = Fuck Poor People


[-] 3 points by KevinPotts (368) 5 years ago

I mention “The Liberty Movement” because of an article I found recently: Guest Post: A Message To The 'Left' From A 'Right Wing Extremist' Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/16/2013 19:06 -0500 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-16/guest-post-message-left-right-wing-extremist The first half of the article is an excellent diatribe of dissent against the Corrupt-Two-Party-Duopoly (which is the only reason I am re-posting that part of it here). The rest of it goes completely downhill and attempts to use the exposure of our corrupt system as a propaganda technique to recruit people into supporting the so called “Liberty Movement”. -Which does make me wonder, if The GOP ever does get to the point where it can no longer survive as a viable party, could it be replaced with such a similar ideology? Or re-branded into such a similar party?

Guest Post: A Message To The 'Left' From A 'Right Wing Extremist'


“Some discoveries are exciting, joyful, and exhilarating, while others can be quite painful. Stumbling upon the fact that you do not necessarily have a competent grasp of reality, that you have in fact been duped for most of your life, is not a pleasant experience. While it may be a living nightmare to realize that part of one’s life was, perhaps, wasted on the false ideas of others, enlightenment often requires that the worldview that we were indoctrinated with be completely destroyed before we can finally resurrect a tangible identity and belief system. To have rebirth, something must first die...

In 2004, I found myself at such a crossroads. At that time I was a dedicated Democrat, and I thought I had it all figured out. The Republican Party was to me a perfect sort of monster. They had everything! Corporate puppet masters. Warmongering zealots. Fake Christians. Orwellian social policies. The Bush years were a special kind of horror. It was cinematic. Shakespearean. If I was to tell a story of absolute villainy, I would merely describe the mass insanity and bloodlust days of doom and dread wrought by the Neo-Con ilk in the early years of the new millennium.

But, of course, I was partly naïve...

The campaign rhetoric of John Kerry was eye opening. I waited, day after day, month after month for my party’s candidate to take a hard stance on the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I waited for a battle cry against the Patriot Act and the unconstitutional intrusions of the Executive Branch into the lives of innocent citizens. I waited for a clear vision, a spark of wisdom and common sense. I waited for the whole of the election for that man to finally embrace the feelings of his supporters and say, with absolute resolve, that the broken nation we now lived in would be returned to its original foundations. That civil liberty, freedom, and peace, would be our standard once again. Unfortunately, the words never came, and I realized, he had no opposition to the Bush plan. He was not going to fight against the wars, the revolving door, or the trampling of our freedoms. Indeed, it seemed as though he had no intention of winning at all.

I came to see a dark side to the Democratic Party that had always been there but which I had refused to acknowledge. Their leadership was no different than the Neo-Cons that I despised. On top of this, many supporters of the Democratic establishment had no values, and no principles. Their only desire was to “win” at any cost. They would get their "perfect society" at any cost, even if they had to chain us all together to do it.

There was no doubt in my mind that if the Democrats reoccupied the White House or any other political power structure one day, they would immediately adopt the same exact policies and attitudes of the Neo-Conservatives, and become just as power-mad if not more so. In 2008 my theory was proven unequivocally correct.

It really is amazing. I have seen the so-called “anti-war” party become the most accommodating cheerleader of laser guided death and domination in the Middle East, with predator drones operating in the sovereign skies of multiple countries raining missiles upon far more civilians than “enemy combatants”, all at the behest of Barack Obama. I have seen the “party of civil liberties” expand on every Constitution crushing policy of the Bush Administration, while levying some of the most draconian legislation ever witnessed in the history of this country. I have seen Obama endorse enemy combatant status for American citizens, and the end of due process under the law through the NDAA. I have seen him endorse the end of trial by jury. I have seen him endorse secret assassination lists, and the federally drafted murder of U.S. civilians. I have seen him endorse executive orders which open the path to the declaration of a “national emergency” at any time for any reason allowing for the dissolution of most constitutional rights and the unleashing of martial law.

If I was still a Democrat today I would be sickly ashamed. Yet, many average Democrats actually defend this behavior from their party. The same behavior they once railed against under Bush.

However, I have not come here to admonish Democrats (at least not most of them). I used to be just like them. I used to believe in the game. I believed that the rules mattered, and that it was possible to change things by those rules with patience and effort. I believed in non-violent resistance, protest, civil dissent, educational activism, etc. I thought that the courts were an avenue for political justice. I believed that the only element required to end corruption would be a sound argument and solid logic backed by an emotional appeal to reason. I believed in the power of elections, and had faith in the idea that all we needed was the “right candidate” to lead us to the promise land. Again, I believed in the game.

The problem is, the way the world works and the way we WISH the world worked are not always congruent. Attempting to renovate a criminal system while acting within the rigged confines of that system is futile, not to mention delusional. Corrupt oligarchies adhere to the standards of civility only as long as they feel the need to maintain the illusion of the moral high ground. Once they have enough control, the mask always comes off, the rotten core is revealed, and immediate violence against dissent commences.

Sometimes the only solutions left in the face of tyranny are not peaceful. Logic, reason, and justice are not revered in a legal system which serves the will of the power elite instead of the common man. The most beautiful of arguments are but meaningless flitters of hot air in the ears of sociopaths. Sometimes, the bully just needs to be punched in the teeth.

This philosophy of independent action is consistently demonized, regardless of how practical it really is when faced with the facts. The usual responses to the concept of full defiance are accusations of extremism and malicious intent. Believe me, when I embarked on the path towards the truth in 2004, I never thought I would one day be called a potential “homegrown terrorist”, but that is essentially where we are in America in 2013. To step outside the mainstream and question the validity of the game is akin to terrorism in the eyes of the state and the sad cowardly people who feed the machine.

During the rise of any despotic governmental structure, there is always a section of the population that is given special treatment, and made to feel as though they are “on the winning team”. For now, it would appear that the “Left” side of the political spectrum has been chosen by the establishment as the favored sons and daughters of the restructured centralized U.S. However, before those of you on the Left get too comfortable in your new position as the hand of globalization, I would like to appeal to you for a moment of unbiased consideration. I know from personal experience that there are Democrats out there who are actually far more like we constitutionalists and “right wing extremists” than they may realize. I ask that you take the following points into account, regardless of what the system decides to label us…”

[This is where it starts to get extremely sketchy]

“We Are Being Divided By False Party Paradigms.
Many Democrats and Republicans are not stupid, and want above all else to see the tenets of freedom respected and protected.” (aherrm, for rich people maybe cough cough) “Unfortunately, they also tend to believe that only their particular political party is the true defender of liberty.” (cough cough unlike some people I‘ve heard cough cough choke lol :-) “The bottom line is, at the top of each party there is very little if any discernible difference between the two. If you ignore all the rhetoric and only look at action, the Republican and Democratic leadership are essentially the same animal working for the same special interests. There is no left and right; (…)” [End of dissent against the two-headed-corporate-state. “Liberty” Movement Propaganda Begins Here]

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

well said.

[-] 2 points by KevinPotts (368) 5 years ago


[-] 1 points by peacehurricane (293) 5 years ago

In that case I officially claim WE PARTY and shall proceed as such. For it represents separation of church and state. In this way we can stop prosecuting peoples right to do as they so choose and keep in happy pursuit for Liberty as it is a living definition that represents the closest thing to Universal law of Justice for all and in this country it is decided for WE PARTY...

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Was there ever any doubt?

Wasn't that what Mr. P used as his excuse for becoming a (R)epelicant?

Why, yes it is.

Label them and their "economics" as neolibe(R)tarian. It's a fitting title.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Libe(R)tarians = liberty?

Not really.

They have been using the (R)epelican'ts to take away liberty wherever they can.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

The GOP and the Dems are never going to morph into anything besides what they are- cogs of the machine. They have been that way for a very long time. Its why they exist. They certainly dont exist because they do a good job, thats for sure. And they certainly dont exist because they give a shit, that should be blatantly obvious by now.

That being said, will they try to cater to those who want to break away? Of course. Will they try to set up specific things that are meant to keep people from practicing self governance and creating their own thing? Well, anyone that saw every single city in the country tell Occupy to go fuck themselves should realize that by now.

They will throw in a few talking points, play the part, but it will always be the same for those two. More for them and less for us.

What kind of a human being would vote themselves a pay raise during this decline?



[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

Well, there no doubt that the Republican party will continue to be the party of opposition for some time to come; since we are presently governed by the party of oppression, it seems only reasonable to assume that the New Republicans will present as the party of liberation.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Those that promise more Libertopia?

[-] 1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 5 years ago

Do you know what they're telling caucasion college kids now? They're telling them that even though their financial situation might qualify them for as much as 40,000 in aide, they are only going to give them a thousand because the Fed - it seems - is flat broke. Bear in mind that they qualify because their financial situation warrants it; if it did not perhaps there would be a family home to refinance - but since there isn't, many are being forced into personal loans with rates as high as 8%. It's not just Libertopia; it's also Liberia. The Republican party will emerge from this as the party of liberation for many.