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Forum Post: Putin on Boston Massacare

Posted 1 year ago on April 26, 2013, 5:53 p.m. EST by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai
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" I want to appeal to Russian and American citizens, and to all the people who follow these international events, and to say: Russia is itself a victim of international terrorism, one of the earliest victims.

I have always felt outraged when our Western partners, as well as your colleagues from the Western media, referred to our terrorists who committed brutal, bloody, appalling crimes on the territory of our country, as insurgents. They were hardly ever referred to as terrorists. They provided assistance to them, information support, financial and political support — sometimes directly and sometimes indirectly, but it always accompanied their activities on the territory of the Russian Federation. While we always said that they shouldn't make empty declarations that terrorism is a common threat, but make real efforts and cooperate with each other more closely. But now these two criminals have provided the best possible proof that we were right."

http://larouchepac.com/node/26350

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[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

I must admit I have some anti La Rouche bias that began when his Presidential commercial was aired decades ago. He seemed to ramble on and then was mysteriously cut short. What's the story from a pro La Rouche perspective?

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Are you talking about him being cut short in one particular show or in general. He's generally excluded from the mass media these days, because of his critical attitude towards Wall Street.

He even served four years of an eight year prison sentence until figures from around the world demanded that he be let go. Ramsey Clark called it the biggest political frame up in American history.

What was it that you found objectionable?

[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

I think it was in the 1976 Presidential election. La Rouche bought half an hour of air time on a major network, then was cut off after 5 minutes. His rambling speech is what turned me off. Can't find any info about what really happened on the internet.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Considering that he was cut off, I would guess it was because "they" didn't want the people to hear what he was saying.

It sounds like his speech didn't make sense to you, I have some friends that same the same about his website. I've been reading it for quite a while and am aware of the background, so it mostly makes sense to me.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

The marathon bombing as well as the terrorism in Russia were both the result of U.S. and Russian meddling in other people's affairs. The violence these terrorists used in retaliation was clearly abhorrent and should be condemned vigorously, but let's not close our eyes to the even greater violence used by the U.S. and Russia that led to the reprisals.

Because the people of these two nations allowed, supported, and fought wars of aggression against people they had no right to oppress, the blowback, no matter how heinous, must be laid at their feet.

[-] 2 points by Narley (284) 1 year ago

Exactly. I like the :blowback” term. If the US just minded its own business, stayed out of other nations affairs and stopped trying to bring democracy and the Christian faith to the whole world we’d be much better off. The US should close most of it foreign military bases and let other countries solve their own problems.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

The Soviet Union, and various factions in Russia today, were and are oppressive. Putin, I believe, is trying to pursue a better path today.

[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

A better path would be to liberate Chechnya from Russian control.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

You may be right. I don't know a lot about Chechnya and am doing some reading on it now.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

While I agree and appreciate his support, and even welcome this alliance, I cannot help but wish for the the Russia of old; what would Breshnev have done?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

While I wasn't really aware of international politics during Breshnev's times, I've since heard that he was one of the better rulers of Russia. What do you think he would have done?

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

His actions against Islam were primarily retaliatory but one thing is for certain - he would not have permitted the parents of the bomber to speak publicly or to so fearlessly challenge US authorities; in the 70's Russia was said to have an estimated 10,000 political and religious prisoners. Personally I found the arrogance, the fearlessness, really really offensive - where is Breshnev?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

I think that US strategy towards Islam is intended to provoke as much conflict between Islam and the west as possible, which is why they allowed the parents to challenge US authorities on TV. By "US" here, I mean the financial oligarchy which runs the US.

As for Breshnev, I imagine he has passed away.

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

Our war with Islam is hundreds of years old now; you seek to assign blame when we all know that those who cast the first stone have long since been forgotten. I am also concerned with our current strategy "towards" Islam.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Are you aware of the CIA's sponsoring of groups such as Al Queda?

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

Yea, of course. But they are not my concern; my concern is for the American citizen.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Wars in the middle east effect American citizens. They take away huge amounts of money from where it could be spent better. For example, most US infrastructure is rated C and D by the Army Corp of Engineers. We could put our soldiers to work rebuilding it instead of paying them to destroy the infrastructure of middle eastern countries.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Free Pussy Riot!!!!!

Putin.....LOL

Larouche........LOL

Peas in a pod?

[-] 3 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Do you equally support the desecration of synagogues?

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

"And the band played on"

---The Temptations---

"The trial of Pussy Riot ended as it began: as an egregious expression of contempt for law, justice, and common sense. The verdict—two years in prison camp for each of the three women, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, Maria Alekhina, and Yekaterina Samutsevich, members of the punk band Pussy Riot, which had staged a brief anti-Putin performance in a cathedral, was a triumph of anti-modern obscurantism over young Russian modernity, the crushing power of the state over the individual, servility over independence. "

Free Pussy Riot!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

So, I'll take that as a yes.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

You can't take that as anything at all.

Your question had no basis in reality.

Free Pussy Riot!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

You say that Pussy Riot expressed "contempt for law, justice, and common sense" and consider that a "triumph of anti-modern obscurantism" and say that my statement has no basis in reality.

As a fair and logical person, I would assume that you consider the following desecration a triumph as well:

"New York City police arrested two youth who vandalized two Lower East Side synagogues on Thursday with eggs, smoke bombs, and swastikas."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132089#.UXw-RoKiRJM

and would advocate the freeing of these two young people.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

OK, you're a NAZI, I get it.

I've met others in my lifetime.

I still say.....

Free Pussy Riot!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Ok, so you're an AshkeNAZI, I've met others as well.

The question is, do you still say Free the New York vandals?

Or perhaps you don't like your own reasoning, or lack thereof, applied to yourself.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Free Pussy Riot!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/pussy-riot/

It's only YOU comparing two very different situations in two very different countries from a Nazi point of view.

Your question is meaningless and lacks reason, so no, I can't offer an answer to it.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Perhaps this is just an example of your Talmudic justice, or an AshkeNazi point of view:

“If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)

That is, you believe its perfectly fine and defensible to desecrate a church, under the right circumstances, but the desecration of a synagogue under any circumstances is indefensible.

Or perhaps I misunderstand you. Considering that you think its ok to desecrate a church in certain situations, do you also think its acceptable to desecrate a synagogue in certain situations as well? If so, what would that situation be?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

"Or perhaps I misunderstand you"

This would be correct.

My fear is that I don't misunderstand you.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

So, I do misunderstand you. Then you do think at times its acceptable to desecrate a synagogue. For you, what would be an example of such a time?

In Russia, Pussy Riot staged their "event" as a protest against state authoritarianism. Would it be acceptable to you if some Palestinian women entered a synagogue in Israel, made vulgar gestures and screamed obscenities to protest abuses of the state of Israel?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

I'm not going to play this game with you.

I understand you far too well now.

I've seen these exact arguments on "unsavory" web sites.

[-] -1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

This game is called "logic" which means that the same justice that applies to one applies to all. So I assume your objection to logic is based on your Talmudic sense of justice, in which the murder and robbery of gentiles is permissible for Jews.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

Logic??

Um......ok, but like I said, I'm not going to play this game with you.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/04/28/dancing-in-jaffa/

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[-] 3 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

The campaign of demonization of Russian President Vladimir Putin is also part of this strategy of confrontation against Russia and China, for if you are going to raise the threat of war, you also have to create an enemy image. The media hype surrounding Pussy Riot is part of this, notwithstanding all the pronouncements of solidarity by foolish politicians and clueless teenagers. Behind Russian opposition figures Alexei Navalny and Garry Kasparov are the same George Soros-directed forces who were responsible for various "Orange" or other colored revolutions and who would be glad to stage a regime change in Russia too, in the interests of the British-based empire. The criminal offense of desecrating a religious site and chopping up a woodcarving of Christ on the cross with a chainsaw have nothing to do with "democracy." Similar actions in churches in Germany would also have resulted in criminal charges, with up to three years imprisonment or monetary penalties, according to German religious lawyer Ansgar Hense.

http://www.larouchepub.com/hzl/2012/3933mankind_or_destruction.html

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[-] 3 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

What qualifies someone as a Repelican? Do they have to be registered as a Republican, or do you just think that anyone who disagrees with you must be one of them?

Attacking someone for not following the party line is an old divide and conquer tactic of the Anglo-American oligarchy. I'm sure they appreciate your loyalty to them.

If you really meant to discuss this "seriously", I think you'd do more than mutter some obscure references.

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[-] 3 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

You be may be having fun and think you are quite the wit, but your response in no way addresses the serious question Arturo asked you. I agree that those that don't agree w a handful of you dnc trolls are all republicans in your books. So sad that you see every thing as a 2 choiced either or. Just more reason to believe OWS is doomed since the 10% or so of the population that are rabidly, radically, far left try to control this forum. OWS will have to drop the 99% claim sooner or later.

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Indeed so.

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[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

As I explained to you once before, I'm not really that high, it just looks that way from your perspective down there.

Larouche has always favored the policies of conservative democrats such as FDR and JFK. Is that a little too far right for you?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Always speak truth to power.

FREE PUSSY RIOT

FREE THE PROVIDERS OF INFORMATION/NOTICE OF WRONG DOING TO THE PUBLIC - FREE BRADLEY MANNING

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I've noticed that that feature depends on who is monitoring the site - it has never been a consistent admonishment.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25038) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

owWOOOO Ow OW OWOOoooooooooo............{:-])

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

One must not sing songs that disrespect Vladamir.

Lyndon really likes him.