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Forum Post: president calls growing lower class lazy.

Posted 10 years ago on July 24, 2013, 12:26 p.m. EST by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA
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"for those willing to strive"

president calls growing lower class lazy.

ERGO if yo poor; yo lazy(striveless)

Preaching the church of the dollar

.

Nevermind the poor. It is their fault.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

US fails at arms control

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

president will stands ground and continue to terrorize with drones

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

[-] 1 points by shooz (20709) 4 minutes ago

They were busy performing personal attacks.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (14495) 0 minutes ago

It's upsetting

I doesn't addressing the issues

like both parties calling for lower taxes again

and calling it bargaining

Meanwhile media "leaders " keep talking like they matter

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (844) from Tucson, AZ 9 minutes ago

I'm curious about your concept of "human nature". If it were human nature to be lazy, we would all be in caves. In a culture that propagandizes instead of teaching, values form over substance, and creates a society that must work at any job they can find for 40 hours a week to maybe pay the rent -- in other words, a society dismissive of its people -- it's no surprise that they don't want to work at something they hate for no benefit. Unemployment insurance pays them not to work -- but it isn't that unemployment is too high, it is that wages are way, way, way too low.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-to-solve-all-our-countrys-problems-just-give-t/#comment-990889

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

http://www.occucards.com/alec/

I'm not going to copy and paste all that crap to show you.

Mostly?

It's about not talking about those guys, up there.

Good thing they don't have much to do with the show, eh?

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[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

thanks

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

US drone strike kills six militants in Pakistan, officials say

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/28/us-drone-strike-kills-six-in-nw-pakistan-officials/?test=latestnews#ixzz2aXoDW1kc

Pakistan says suspected US drone strike kills five people on Afghan border

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/28/pakistan-drone-strike-kils-five

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[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

When did which president of what said
"growing lower class lazy."

your video or audio link is where ?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

in the negative space in those willing to strive will make it

that just isn't the case

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

I heard Israel Palestine talks peace talks were to be in secret

how does that make sense ?

[-] 2 points by ericweiss (575) 10 years ago

ANYTHING that facilitates peace makes sense.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

communication brings peace not sequestered leaders making private deals

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

"There are a lot of folks who are still struggling out here, too many people in poverty. Here in America, we’ve never guaranteed success -- that's not what we do. More than some other countries, we expect people to be self-reliant. Nobody is going to do something for you. (Applause.) We've tolerated a little more inequality for the sake of a more dynamic, more adaptable economy. That's all for the good. But that idea has always been combined with a commitment to equality of opportunity to upward mobility -- the idea that no matter how poor you started, if you're willing to work hard and discipline yourself and defer gratification, you can make it, too. That's the American idea. (Applause.)"

"In the period after World War II, a growing middle class was the engine of our prosperity. Whether you owned a company, or swept its floors, or worked anywhere in between, this country offered you a basic bargain -- a sense that your hard work would be rewarded with fair wages and decent benefits, the chance to buy a home, to save for retirement, and most of all, a chance to hand down a better life for your kids. But over time, that engine began to stall -- and a lot of folks here saw it -- that bargain began to fray. Technology made some jobs obsolete. Global competition sent a lot of jobs overseas. It became harder for unions to fight for the middle class. Washington doled out bigger tax cuts to the very wealthy and smaller minimum wage increases for the working poor. And so what happened was that the link between higher productivity and people’s wages and salaries was broken. It used to be that, as companies did better, as profits went higher, workers also got a better deal. And that started changing. So the income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged. And towards the end of those three decades, a housing bubble, credit cards, a churning financial sector was keeping the economy artificially juiced up, so sometimes it papered over some of these long-term trends. But by the time I took office in 2009 as your President, we all know the bubble had burst, and it cost millions of Americans their jobs, and their homes, and their savings. And I know a lot of folks in this area were hurt pretty bad. And the decades-long erosion that had been taking place -- the erosion of middle-class security -- was suddenly laid bare for everybody to see."

When did you decide to become a liar Matt? or have you always been one?

If you want something you can bitch about without lying here:

http://www.flushthetpp.org/trash-the-tpp-why-its-time-to-revolt-against-the-worst-trade-agreement-in-history/

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

it's been about who owns what for a while now, pale face

and language does matter "dead beat"

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

even the tense of language matters like when someone says it was once this way and someone else picks out words to make them sound as if they are saying that's how it is, thus telling a dirty lie, even more than language the truth matters...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

the president believes people are dead beats

or reads his speech from writers

paid for by the bank

[-] 0 points by Illuminated (5) 10 years ago

Well, the president was spot on with a few exceptions.

"a sense that your hard work would be rewarded with fair wages and decent benefits"

There weren't any benefits following WWII, I wouldn't call none "decent".

"but the typical family’s incomes barely budged."

This isn't true in the least. Incomes and living standards have clearly skyrocketed since 1979. The issue is wealth inequality, not incomes.

The president also failed to mention that taxing the middle class 15.3% to give money to the poor, who spend it into the pockets of the rich, is the biggest factor destroying the middle class today. We need to adopt the Ryan Plan and remove the income caps on taxes paid in.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

The only time "real wages" adjusted for inflation has gone up since 1979 is in the late 90's Clinton brought that about with his 1993 tax increase. Since Reagan took office in 1981 and busted the unions almost all GDP growth in the US has gone to those in the top 1% of wealth holders which has resulted in America being the most class fixed of all the NATO nations, yes that's right if you are born working class you have a better chance of making it to the middle or higher in every other NATO nation, yet we still carry the bruit of the defense budget for all of them, that's what's choking the middle class to death.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 10 years ago

The Ryan plan? I don't want to live in an underwater city.

[-] -2 points by Tsler (-10) 10 years ago

yea, so?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

no one wants to talk about real economics

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

whoever, whatever your lord is couldn't give a fuck if you ever made fortunes.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

O bomb them

called those that can't pay their debts

"Dead Beats" today