Forum Post: Police Justified Using Force at Brooklyn Bridge Incident.
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 17, 2011, 6:48 p.m. EST by commonsense11
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This seals the deal for me and what I think of the Occupy movement in New York. What a bunch of losers! It's not your right to block traffic across the Brooklyn Bridge. The police are fully justified using tear gas, rubber bullets, or anything else they deem necessary to put this disgusting group in their place. Obviously those at the bridge have no idea how to garner support from the public and lack the necessary intelligence to actually get the change they desire. If this is the movement then you will never rally enough people into the movement to actually accomplish anything. What a very small minority that lack the ability to establish a cohesive plan and message to actually do any good.
We (Americans) are not the 99%. We are the 1%. The 99% is the rest of the world wanting to take us down. N17 is a terrorist organization from Greece. Note the "austerity" reference in their poster for today. Sound like Greece? Google N17.
The deal is sealed for me too. I've been on the fence for weeks, watching, reading, and hoping OWS would not be what it was starting to appear to be. My God, scaring little school kids and their parents, following them down the street yelling at them, and physically keeping people from getting to work is not protest. It's not right, it's not civil, it's not peaceful; it's intimidation, mean, and evil. From what I've heard and read today there will be violence. I'm done with you guys and now hope you fail.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/17/ows-protesters-chant-follow-those-kids-as-small-children-try-to-go-to-school-on-wall-street/
A good wrap up of the Whole World is Watching in the NYorker
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-police-bloomberg.html
Thank you for sharing this propaganda blog with us. How about finding something credible for us.
I saw this live on OWS cams this morning...It's a fact. Yes I realize anybody can refute this because that is what always happens but I know what I saw. So there.
Am not sure I understand you, what do you mean by propaganda? Did you read it? Author is denouncing the NY police department, which by the way, has already forgotten how the residents of NYC supported their health claims after the WTC.
"That is precisely what makes the police violence that has become such a common spectacle so troubling: protest is an essential American democratic tradition, and you don’t have to support the protesters (or oppose the dismantling of their camps) to condemn its forcible stifling."
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-police-bloomberg.html#ixzz1e12XbACs
I support the police using what ever force is necessary to rid the Brooklyn Bridge of these protesters illegally blocking traffic. People have no right to block honest hard working individuals from going to and from work. They have no right to keep free citizens from driving down the road. The Occupy movement is successfully solidifying a reputation of a bunch of do nothings, complainers with no solutions for the problems that face our generation.
You do not make any sense. You do not see the big picture; the reason these people must protest is, in part, so that after they graduate from college, they can get a job and patronize your store. The reason they protest and temporarily block your store is so you can prosper in the future, your children can get an affordable education, and so on and so forth.
I know two types of college graduates. Those that finish School look hard for a job and understand that you start at the bottom and as you gain experience you move up the ladder. Then there are those lazy bums that feel they are entitled to start at the top and feel like an entry level job is below them.
Are you one of the hard working college grads I described first or the worthless bum entitled type graduates I described second?
Neither. It took me eight years to pay back my students' loan while making 15 bucks an hour no benefits, and I don't wish that on any one. Had my own business too, paid my dues plenty of times, but that was before the debt crisis. Still, I don't see why the bottom 99 percent should follow that route, the hardships, etc. If we let the haves continue telling the not to be honest, polite, and clean to have a successful life while they pig out on our hard work (or lack of), then we deserve our sad fate. I want better for the next generations. So, I want OWS to fight for a place at the table.
Pretty sure the Brooklyn Bridge has a pedestrian walkway... which they used. Tune into WNYC they're reporting live on it now.
Pretty sure they blocked traffic without a permit to hold a parade.
I couldn't have said it better myself. What they are not aware of is what a small percentage they actually represent. I'm pissed when people don't use their blinkers when turning, but what can I do? If I were to take a page out of these protestor's books, I would camp outside the DMV and protest bad drivers. Big difference, I know, but they're essentially sending the same message. If the point is to send a message, then great - we got it, loud and clear. The next step would be to go home and actually draft up some ideas of CHANGE. I can't think of ANYTHING in history that has been accomplished by only going far enough to piss of fellow citizens with no substantial effect on those they are actually mad at.
"This disgusting group" of 50,000 New Yorkers.
Congrats, you're officially a brain dead Corporate goon.
Disgusting strategy. I could care less what force the police use on them. You want to make a point then you better not piss on the rest of the city by blocking traffic or any other moronic ideas you may have.
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50,000 is a small fraction so yes.... disgusting group
And it was NO where near 50000. But even if it was that's only 0.006% of new yorkers. Closer to nothing than even 1%.
Congrats, you're officially a brain dead goon.
brain dead goon that will probably be more successful in life than a lazy bum like yourself. I think I like it.
I'd rather be awake, alive, informed, and compassionate, than satisfy your psychopathic definition of "success"?
You may be awake but you are far from informed.
lol. And you may be rich, but you're far from successful.
I'm far from rich. I'm a small business owner that helps other small business owners by providing them with technical support that they would otherwise pay 2 to 3 times more for if they used one of the large corporations. I make an honest living and help them to do the same. It angers and disgusts me to see a bunch of punk ass individuals with no plan and absolutely no chance to change anything. If you want to accomplish something stop electing the same corporate owned career politicians year after year. The 99% has elected these corporate owne idiots and now we get exactly what we should expect to get. Corruption.
I am going to be alive, I am going to be alive for a long time unless something unexpected happens to my health like an illness or physical problem. to me, success is being able to have a family, being able to support a family and to be happy with what I am able to achieve. All of you people here all seem to want more and more and more, claim this corporal greed when you are no different, just a bunch of greedy people jealous of those who make more than you.
Epic. Fail. I could care less about being an ultra rich zillionaire. I am a college professor, and I make a nice living. I have no desire for more money. But I do have a desire to live in a world where no one must suffer the indignity of homelessness, or joblessness, and in a world where no one has to chose between getting their kid medicine and keeping a roof over their head.
when are we going to start doing things EGYPT STYLE? fight fire with fire?
If you don't support the movement why are you here? Why have you not taken the time to see the several versions of a platform that are being circulated? Why are you more worried about a traffic mess than our country's future? When was the last time you did more than pay lipservice to any cause besides your bank account and possessions yet want a bullhorn when you are finally inconvenienced?
We have decided that we have been inconvenienced enough, through watching our pensions pay off the people that squandered them, through watching in awe as congress refuses to listen to constituents instead of lobbyists, and through having to watch our foriegn policy go against what the majority of the country wants. To the point that we are willing to interrupt business as usual.
Do you know who your congressional representatives are? Do you vote? If you kicked up this kind of fuss with your representatives, (kinda like the Tea Party did), maybe you could enact some changes. All you are doing right now is pissing off hard-working stiffs trying to feed their families. You look like a bunch of cry-babies.
And who, pray tell, have you voted for recently? What positive changes in government have they accomplished? What great changes have the Tea Party's elected representatives achieved? In case you haven't been paying attention, the situation in this country has been gradually getting worse not better. Don't you people realize our political system is corrupt and broken? We are here to try to fix this broken system for the better of all of us. You people that keep bitching about OWS are not only clueless but too lazy to take yourselves out of your comfort zone. It's you people and your rampant complacency that have got this country in this predicament to begin with. Do your homework wolfgirl, you may learn something.
Is this "fixing" things? Is it making things in America LESS tense? LESS stressful? LESS political? LESS broken?
You're not trying to FIX anything-because you don't have the first clue about how to FIX IT. How do I know? Because two months in, you STILL haven't looked in the mirror and realized how much of "the problems" you represent.
And yet you answered none of my questions. Typical. And two months is a very short time. The first revolution took seven years. And yes, this IS a revolution. We're not going anywhere. Get used to us.
I went to high school with two of them at the state level, and have voted, written, called and emailed. I have gone to rallys, joined call campaigns, even walked the campaign beat for some I thought would really change things. So far it has been but a drop in the bucket and the promises for change broken. The are out there on behalf of the working stiffs, because the working stiffs that want change just as badly are too busy feeding their families to be able to quit their jobs and join. Before you start complaining about those striving for a better world, consider what you have contributed to the situation. Has it been apathy or effort to change the situation?
Better come up with a plan that will actually work Sparky.
How about not continuing to elect the same corporate owned career politicians over and over again. You see the 99% keep putting the same corrupt bozos in office and now the country has exactly what it deserves. You want to accomplish something? Seek out and elect honest individuals that possess common sense and stop electing the same idiots to office over and over again.
All of history has had low-achieving rabble. This is no different. A few more encounters with police batons will be like pissing on their campfire.
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Ignore intelligence. That's what this group is guilty of!