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Forum Post: Petition to IMPEACH ALL Senators who Voted for "U.S. is a Battlefield" and to detain U.S. Citizens, tailored to round up OWS on the final battle.

Posted 10 years ago on Nov. 30, 2011, 10:53 p.m. EST by gmxusa (274)
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The law is very clear.

It creates a permanent state of martial law in the United States, unlimited wire tapping, unlimited warrant-less searches, “stop, search and question” checkpoints at state borders, no more right to legal counsel.

It also authorizes torture, it authorizes transfer and detention of American citizens at “offshore” prisons, Europe, Africa, who knows?

Why? Why now? What is driving this, is this really about terrorism, is America facing a massive terrorist threat despite all reports to the contrary including estimates by CIA Director Leon Panetta that Al Qaeda may be down to less than 12 members?

Stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the American People! IMPEACH every single Senator who voted FOR the McCain/Levin "U.S. is a Battlefield" bill that gives the military the right to go to the houses of U.S. Citizens and take them without charges or rights to a lawyer or trial for the rest of their lives! The Senators COMMITTED TREASON Directly Against the United States Citizens!

Do not fear signing it. Because if we live in fear we will have lost! This is a way of peacefully standing up and saying we will NOT allow a handful of people take away the rights and freedoms of 300,000,000+ people!

The Senators did commit Treason with that We the People need to hold them accountable and say "We will not let this happen."

This vote went directly against the U.S. Citizens Bill of Rights written by our Founding Fathers. It is the basis of the country and no group of people are allowed to take away our rights!

Stand Up for the Country and what is Right! Impeach/Recall elections every single Senator who directly voted to destroy the Constitution!

The Petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/892/petition-to-impeach-all-senators-who-voted-for-us-is-a-battlefield-and-to-detain-us-citizens-without/

Article on Veterans Today: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/01/the-truth-about-the-national-defense-authorization-act/

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[-] 4 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

Who are you going to send this petition to - congress?

Petitions are the illusion of action.

[-] 2 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

Petitions are the allusion to action

NGA NOW https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

I've read the 99% Declaration, and while I agree with most of the issues, I think electing people outside of the constitutional system to make demands of seated politicians is a complete waste of time.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

It's interesting how the rights given in the 1st Amendment can be couched in certain words to make the exercising of the right (Petition the government for a redress of grievances) sound treasonous to some.

I would not say that OWS was a complete waste of time but I have yet to see any change in the status quo.

Hopefully the NGA will change that.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

"Treasonous" is YOUR word. And we don't need a "citizens constitutional convention" to petition the government.

As to changing the status quo, this movement is not yet 90 days old and it has already shaken up the centuries-old power structure.

Give it some time - between the growing movement, growing unemployment, growing poverty, growing foreclosures, declining tax revenues and increasing municipal bankruptcies, soldiers coming home to no jobs, students graduating to no jobs, and a rapidly collapsing global economy, the status quo is all but over.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

"And we don't need a "citizens constitutional convention" to petition the government."

The 99% Declaration calls for a National General Assembly similar to, and in the spirit of, any GA at any #Occupy. Saying "citizens constitutional convention" is quoting from an unknown source and once again, the words have the effect of scaring up ghosts.

Are you saying we need something else to petition the government, or, are you saying we don't need to petition the government?

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

Misread - "convene a national general assembly". I'm all for that. Just keep in mind you will be petitioning those in power to reduce their own corruption and power.

Making demands recognizes authority. Recognizing corrupt authority legitimizes tyranny.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

The way I see it, The Petition For Redress is the tie that binds the past and the future. What was the reason for putting it in the 1st Amendment, if not to give the people authority to demand that the government alter it's ways.

Having the NGA List Of Grievances ignored by the government tells the 99% exactly where they stand. Hence the Resolve in the Declaration:

V. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that IF the PETITION FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES approved by the 876 Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY in consultation with the NINETY-NINE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE, is not acted upon within a reasonable time and to the satisfaction of the Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY, said Delegates shall reconvene to utilize the grassroots network established in the election of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY to organize a new INDEPENDENT POLITICAL PARTY to run candidates for every available Congressional seat in the mid-term election of 2014 and again in 2016 until all vestiges of the existing corrupt corporatocracy have been eradicated through the power of the ballot box.

So like i said in the first place, Petition is the allusion to action, not begging and groveling to a small group of people who's only authority comes from 'us'

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

So if they don't listen, you're going to try and elect candidates in 3-5 years?

The global economy will have collapsed long before then, taking government around the world down with it, including this one. Fighting an entrenched, corrupt corporate-political-complex on it's own heavily funded turf and by it's own set of exclusionary rules is an exercise in futility.

allusion n. an instance of indirect reference

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 10 years ago

The act of holding the NGA will scare the shit out of the republiCrats. Remember they sipped Champagne from the balconies of Wall Street? RepubliCrats will have to start competing for 99r votes. Now we've got them between a rock and a hard place.

We are the many http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3BYw4xjxE&NR=1

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

Occupation of the Rep and Dem conventions in the spring will do more than that. Remember Chicago? This will make that look like a Sunday in the park.

Why do you think the Defense Appropriations Bill passed by the senate yesterday includes language that allows the military to incarcerate anyone, anywhere, anytime without due process?

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

The 99% are about to be spanked by the 1% and go back to its corner.

[-] 2 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

The 1% are about to crash the global economy back to the stone age. When that happens, a big pile of money is not going to be the thing that "saves" one.

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

And what happened with all that money the Bernankes and Goldmans can create out of thin air and make everybody happy?

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

They can try to eat it.

[-] 0 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 10 years ago

Unfortunately you are right. Most (if not all) of those Senators will be reelected.

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 10 years ago

And the candidates are fully vetted, pre-approved and and funded by the corporate financial complex.

The average Senate campaign costs > $10m. We have the very best government that money can buy.

[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 10 years ago

That awful bill passed yesterday 97 yeas to 7 nays, they have well over 2/3 vote and could override a presidential veto.

WE should all be protesting in front of Congress right now. They are traitors to the American people.

[-] 2 points by rosewood (543) 10 years ago

Signing that petiton is like signing a petition to have the Mexican drug cartels cease dealing drugs and beheading people. When we decide to get serious we'll bring down a transnational through economic boycotts and divestment; and engage in massive non-compliance. Till then get a suitcase ready to be packed for the fema camps; and the 3am knock on the door.

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 10 years ago

Agreed. Petitions at this point mean nothing.The only way to handle treason againt the American people is protest, and boycotts.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 10 years ago

Mass protests; economic boycotts; mass civil disobedience; non compliance. Because we now have a formidable police state; we should shift into economic boycotts and mass non-compliance. These only work when you have a large segment of the population on board...in the millions. Also voting out nearly all incumbents.

I'm not sure the population has matured to that point yet.

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 10 years ago

I agree. The masses are too caught up in consumerism,not realiizng that this is how the coporations and the politicians maintain power. When a good majorityof the middle class are thrown out of their jobs and homes,only then will the masses say "we will no longer eat cake"!!

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

Hopefully the economic meltdown will happen sometime next year, forcing the sheep to wake up. But then the government will have a nice FEMA camp waiting for them.

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 10 years ago

Petition what a jok ,we need demactrcy first

[-] 1 points by joe100 (306) 10 years ago

I will arrest them if enough Occupy heros and warrior types join me at

the Internet Agency of Economic Justice

http://www.iaej.org

I am ready to arrest people, but I don't see any heros other than myself. I can't do it alone.... pass the word... and don't forget - I am always being hacked - so if you can't get through to iaej.org - let me know through this forum.

[-] 1 points by joe100 (306) 10 years ago

Concealled weapons licenses in Florida recently went up from 90,000 to 400,000.

Militias have gone up from 40 to over 200 in just two years.

Arming up is the only thing to do -that's why in US we have rights to bear arms - to protect ourselves from police and military and govt.

Of course one gun against the military won't help - but if you are part of a militia the military can't do much.

That's what I am doing - the militia thing and the firearms thing.

This entire "non-violent" attitude at occupy is total BS.

Occupy is violent - occupy pushes back horses.

to be diplomatic one has to be packing what the other side is packing. Only when both sides have equivalent forces is their diplomacy, or else there is no discussion and just domination over the side that has less force.

If were in another country, then we couldn't protect ourselves.

It seems as if the US Govt wants everyone to go to war and kill each other, so maybe the .001% can laugh at us all, while they stay in protected areas.

it seems there is some plan at the top to have a war - they seem to be setting the stage for it.

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

They want to start World War 3 and not to have to put up with the shouting OWS kids in the park.

[-] 1 points by joe100 (306) 10 years ago

I agree

[-] 1 points by superomenna1 (89) 10 years ago

The problem with guns is that they have a tendency to make blood spills and often including the blood of the person holding the gun. It would be better to solve the impasse by using the democratic tools available that were created to resolve disputes and avoid violence.

[-] 1 points by joe100 (306) 10 years ago

94% of the people who get shot, have a gun! Don't want to get shot? Don't have a gun. But you might have to put up with corporations and government stealing from you, you might have to deal with police brutality, you might be put in prison for 20 years for something you didn't do (there are lists of people who have been in prison for crimes they didn't do) Thank Gd in the USA, the US Constitution gives the people to protect themselves from police brutality and other criminals. Also - diplomacy required both sides to packing equivalent forces, or else there is no diplomacy - Arming up is a way to get to diplomacy. Without arming up, and individual or group of people or a country, will never reach the diplomatic table, they will just get dominated.

As someone else said: (most) "People are motivated by fear and not love. They don't teach you that in Sunday school, but it's true" - Richard Nixon.

The reason why Occupy is here, is because our current state of "democratic tools" is a complete failure.

Occupy is violent, Occupy does carry a force, Occupy pushes back the cops and their horses. This is violence. It's not abuse, it's not harmful injury, but it's definitely violence.

There is a county in GA - kennesaw, where there is a law that EVERY home owner MUST own a gun in their house. Result?: lots less crime.

Reality sucks. I would love living in a world without guns. But we don't live in such a world, unfortunately.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 10 years ago

better off with the third party and the article 5 convention.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Issues_%2B_Political_Platform_Items

[-] 1 points by larocks (414) from Lexington, KY 10 years ago

good idea but it wont happen

[-] 1 points by lochlan (2) 10 years ago

We need a Lobby for the 99%. There are no lobby's in this country representing the interests of the majority of Americans.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 10 years ago

can anyone tell me what the house bill for this legislation is?

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

S. Bill 1867

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 10 years ago

that is the senate bill. i need the HR bill. http://www.house.gov/content/learn/legislative_process/

did this bill originate in the senate or house?

i want to know if the language: "al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda." is worded the same way in the house bill.

[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 10 years ago

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tens-of-millions-of-american-families-are-living-on-the-edge-of-desperation-and-the-economy-is-about-to-get-a-whole-lot-worse

... a new law (S. 1867) is being pushed through the U.S. Senate that is extremely frightening.

If this bill becomes a law, the United States of America would officially become part of the "battlefield" in the war on terror, and any American citizen could easily be flagged as a "potential terrorist".

Once identified as a "potential terrorist", the U.S. military would be able to arrest you, take you to a foreign prison and detain you for the rest of your life without ever having to charge you with anything.

What in the world is happening to America?

Unfortunately, as the economy gets even worse civil unrest in this country is going to intensify and the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted is going to start to disappear.

[-] 1 points by D33 (48) from Seattle, WA 10 years ago

lol @ The Senators COMMITTED TREASON

You don't even understand what the bill really says. Hint: it isn't allowing detention of citizens. Every section says it is inapplicable to citizens.

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

lol, read the detainee provision included for U.S. citizens. It can easily be interpreted to include OWS activists.

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 10 years ago

Article I Section 9

The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

consitution already allows it.

Open a book once in a while. citizen journalists are just rabble with cellphones

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 10 years ago

all for not homie. it is further clarified in 1032(b-1) Habeas has not been altered. i was fooled too.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 10 years ago

Normally you'd go to the supreme court for constitutional issues.

But they're bought.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 10 years ago

McCain/Levin "U.S. is a Battlefield" bill ?
That 's what they call it ?
why can't people sell their idea honestly ?
like telling us the bill number so we can read it ourselves
I'm not saying you are lying - but your pitch sounds like you are

[-] 1 points by Keepitsimple (110) 10 years ago

This is almost the last nail in the coffin. Good knowing ya....

Disclaimer: My opinions expressed here are not meant as a threat to the overthrow, or to support a revolution, or against the rightful government or citizens of the USA.

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[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 10 years ago

This is dead center aimed at Occupy.

[-] 1 points by gmxusa (274) 10 years ago

Exactly. Just in case Occupy grows too much and the police can't handle it.

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