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Forum Post: Pentagon Propaganda

Posted 2 years ago on May 30, 2012, 11:47 p.m. EST by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD
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This is an email I just received from DemandProgress.org. Although I haven't researched and verified this, I thought I'd pass it on FYI and you can make your own determination. Cheers


Did you think it could get any worse? Now they want to legalize the use of propaganda on American citizens -- and the vote could happen NEXT WEEK.

An amendment legalizing the use of mass propaganda campaigns on American audiences has been inserted into the latest defense authorization bill — and that bill just passed the House.

Please click here to demand that the Senate oppose ending the propaganda ban -- it'll be up for a vote as soon as next week.

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_propaganda/?akid=1377.2111697.ApiSMq&rd=1&t=3

The NDAA amendment lifts bans on propaganda that have been around since the 1940s, neutralizing laws put in place to protect the American people from its government’s own “misinformation” campaigns.

“It removes the protection for Americans,” a Pentagon official told Buzzfeed, who broke the story. "There are no checks and balances. No one knows if the information is accurate, partially accurate, or entirely false.”

The amendment would remove all distinction between a hostile foreign audience and American one, turning the massive information operation apparatus within the federal government against its own people.

Petition links:

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_propaganda/?akid=1377.2111697.ApiSMq&rd=1&t=3

http://act.watchdog.net/petitions/52

Thanks.

-- Demand Progress

PS - Just found these links for more Info:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/congressmen-seek-to-lift-propaganda-ban

http://www.russellmeansfreedom.com/2012/lawmakers-move-to-lift-domestic-propaganda-ban/

http://www.montrealmirror.com/wp/2012/05/24/damn-right-now-hear-this/

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[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Thanx for this illuminating forum-post, further to which I append :

cave bellum se ipsum alet ...

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Sorry I missed your post. I had to take a break from this BS, but as soon as I returned, there's more BS to digest. I'm playing catch-up now. I think there's more going on here than just politics as usual. It's like the government declaring war on it's own. So what's their motive? What's their goal? Democracy .................... or it's demise?

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

One occasionally needs "a break from this BS" - no doubt about it !!! Re. "What's their goal ? Democracy ... or its demise ?" - well all I will do is append the following (but don't read them all in one sitting!) :

at spes non fracta ...

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Good Post

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4497) 2 years ago

Hi Sparky, Thank you for post, petitions and news. This is a "Police State" thing.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Police State - And getting worse by the week. They're just protecting themselves from us terrorists ..... I mean protecting us from the terrorists. ;)

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4497) 2 years ago

Good points. To our government, "We The People" are the enemy.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3711) 2 years ago

Legalizing propaganda. Gees, nothing could wrong there.Ö

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

It only goes to show how brazing they are and how stupid they think we are. If this gets ratified by the senate, and becomes law, what statement coming from the government could anyone believe? It's bad enough now; but you'd have to assume that EVERYTHING that comes from our leaders is a lie or spin.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3711) 2 years ago

I'm way ahead of them. I already know everything that comes from our leaders is a lie or spin. Have you watched CNN lately? I watch it for comic relief. Makes you feel like breaking out the popcorn ! ü

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

I agree - The media's been doing the spin thing for a long time - All of them. Now government wants to legalize their lies? They must be telling some whoppers if they have to pass a law in order to protect themselves.

[-] 1 points by tj200later (17) 2 years ago

Bad title. The issue is not just Pentagon Propaganda. The issue is Political Propaganda. More specifically, legalizing the brainwashing of the American Sheeple. Read the actual bill text. Google "ndaa 2013 domestic propaganda".

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28104) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Signed and added to the letter:

The people of the United States of America are not the enemy. If you are concerned about unrest. Then you should seek the cause and address it. Say like rampant culture of white collar crime that causes an economic meltdown. Say like unregulated fossil fuel speculation. Say like expanded oil drilling and fracking when we have a current glut - all being done for profit at the expense of our environment. Support Green power and fuel technology.

Adress these issue's as outlined above and you will start to see a happier populace. We the people are not the enemy.

[-] 3 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

But to the 1% we are the enemy.

A little riddle: What is it rulers fear most?

That the ruled will discover they need no rulers.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

alternatively, the representatives discover

they need not bear the will of the people

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Thanx and good addition. I think you make a great point by saying "We the people are not the enemy", because most of the laws & policies (patriot act, NDAA, 35,000 drones over America, this bill, etc) that they enact, seems to prove that the government views it's citizenry as 'the enemy'. Should they even HAVE to be reminded that we are not? Because if we are the enemy to them; what are they to us? Cheers

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28104) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you I try whenever possible to explain facts as well as to illuminate the real issues that we are concerned with to the seated government. I feel this can stop or prevent a lot of their BS messages as it shows we know better. Perhaps if more people did the same we could start addressing real problems in stead of be listening to lip service.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly that we should explain the facts, however ...................

Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. ~Thomas Jefferson ~

Although I feel this quote is true, it won't prevent me from trying.

As far as illuminating the seated government as to the real issues we are concerned with; I'm sure they know - They just don't care. Surely most people in congress don't believe that their constituents want their government lying to them, but the bill passed the house, nevertheless. I imagine the senate will follow suit regardless if we know better. They no longer represent us. They represent the Corporate States of America. Cheers

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28104) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That is why we need OSTA - one subject at a time legislation. To not sign the bill was to leave our forces in the field with out a budget for support. The other crap that was attached to the budgeting should have been separate issues.

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

That's right. They use the excuse that they have to "support the troops" and we'll just have to live with the amendments in order to do so. Voting on individual issues would definitely add transparency ...... something they don't want. It's their MO. It's how they get their unpopular bills passed. The problem lies when we must give up ALL of our rights to "support the troops". The term used when I was a kid is "Snow Job".

“The amount of tyranny you get, is the exact amount you put up with.” - TJ

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28104) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Then they can also play the blame game of look who signed for this.

Crap on top of crap.

[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Sure, it adds to the confusion and puts up a diversionary smoke screen.

Crap on top of crap. - Well said!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (28104) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Like Mr. Mittens blaming the current administration for the fucked-up economy that the previous administration caused.

I do believe though that the bailout went to the wrong people and that is why we are still major league fucked-up.