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Forum Post: OWS Lives On

Posted 3 years ago on April 8, 2021, 7:33 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ
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A decade later, the Founders have MovedOn the movement seems gone, certainly the misguided belief that political parties don't matter has pretty much died, I expect many understand now that the GOP represents a real threat.

Has anyone noticed the compete absence of any talk about tax cuts for the rich? In Arizona we just doubled taxes on people making over $250,000/year. OWS has caused a lasting shift in the politics making the rich richer just doesn't play anymore.

That's a good thing.



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[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

So "10 years after Occupy and the Arab Spring, what have we learned? ... (Is) Our world ripe for revolution"? by Nathan Schneider:

note that .. "it was not only the Arabs who took action that year. In the United States, starting on Feb. 14, protesters occupied the Wisconsin state capitol building in Madison, opposing an anti-union bill that Gov. Scott Walker was poised to sign.The mobilization went far beyond the scripted rallies that the unions can usually muster. State government workers and their allies interrupted the business of government, & the Egyptians called in pizza orders for the protesters in Madison. Gov. Walker was no decades-long dictator; the protesters’ demands were not the same, but the story that activated them was.

"Then in Greece starting on May 5, long-simmering protests over economic hardship exploded into riots, occupations and strikes.In Spain, a one-day protest in Madrid planned for May 15 became a weeks-long occupation. There, again, the regime was not a particular autocrat so much as the economic hardship & government budget cuts following the 2008 global financial crisis - which had begun with the bursting of the U.S. housing market. But still a cry rang out, and people took the squares.

"The spirit of 2011 would find its next expression in the United States. The Financial Meltdown had been three years earlier, spraying its concoction of eviction, foreclosure and job loss across the country. There had been a right-wing 'Tea Party' movement, most noticeable among older Americans but the generation hit hardest, the young people entering the economy during a downturn had so far been quiet. Too quiet? In fact, they had been hearing the story, and some of them were quietly preparing."

Tho' of course ... I do NOT agree with the - "How OWS shaped a decade of dramatic protests and why it has run its course" subheading!

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

"OWS made me a Socialist"


"My decision to visit Occupy ten years ago changed the course of my life. It was an entrance into the Left — I’d never been presented with a door before, if I even knew it existed. The same is true of thousands of others. We don’t talk about it much — because Occupy was so messy, so embarrassing, even as it could not have been otherwise given how little experience many of us had in building a movement — but it is true."

Author, Alex N. Press speaks a real truth there.

The truth is, for many Americans Occupy was their first experience even hearing people talk about leftist ideas. It gave many who craved kindred spirits the opportunity to finally open up about how they really felt about an economic system that left them in the dust long ago.

10 years on, we are still fighting, but remember, in the span of human history, 10 years is nothing, and what Occupy did really was quite something especially in a country as conservative as America.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"10 years on, we are still fighting, but remember, in the span of human history, 10 years is nothing, and what Occupy did really was quite something especially in a country as conservative as America" ... because it bears repeating! Also ...

"The Movement galvanized public outrage and - begged for a fundamental shift from a system that was rigged in favor of corporations and the wealthy. The lesson from the last year and a half, is that this kind of shift can happen."

et spero meliora ,,,

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

"How one organization is keeping the spirit of Occupy Wall Street alive. Learning important lessons from Occupy, Momentum has helped incubate new movements that have reshaped the political landscape over the last decade." From:


"IfNotNow, an organization focused on ending American Jewish support for the occupation of Palestine, reformulated its strategy as a part of the community. Dissenters, a new antiwar organization created by young people of color, including anti-sweatshop labor activist Byul Yoon, received support from Momentum throughout their early development. And a veteran group of Black Lives Matter organizers like Miski Noor and Kandace Montgomery helped Momentum commit more resources towards Black leaders, and then worked to establish 2020’s defund the police demand as the Minneapolis-based organization Black Visions.

Within these organizations there is a good amount of crossover, most clearly represented by Never Again Action, one of the catalysts of 2020’s first car caravan protests demanding the release of undocumented immigrants from detention centers. This project involved collaboration between Cosecha and IfNotNow and received support from Momentum staff as it considered next steps."

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

R.I.P. Faith Laugier, Occupy activist and, producer and host of the Occupy Wall Street Radio Show on WBAI.


[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Learning important lessons from Occupy ... Momentum has helped incubate new movements that have reshaped the political landscape over the last decade." from:

Because it warrants repeating. As does: "R.I.P. Faith Laugier, Occupy activist and, producer and host of the Occupy Wall Street Radio Show on WBAI."

per aspera ad astra et requiescat in pace ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

Occupy Boston gathering at Fanueil Hall to demand a name change for the hall and to commemorate their 10 year anniversary. Another group still active 10 years on.

"Occupy Boston planning to gather at Fanueil Hall to call for name change of historic market"


Re. Peter Fanueil: "Prominent in the "triangular trade," Peter shipped slaves to the West Indies and brought molasses and sugar to the Colonies. When his uncle died in 1738 Peter became—despite handsome bequests to his sisters—one of America's wealthiest men, living sumptuously in a Beacon Street mansion."

What a sickening couple of sentences!




[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Meanwhile, "US Denounced as 'Biggest Peddler of Financial Secrecy' ... After Pandora Papers Leak"! by Jake Johnson:

"U.S. President Biden must match his own rhetoric on shutting down global illicit finance & start with - the biggest offender — his own country."! More 'sickening sentences' for U, I'm afraid! + TY for links^.

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas!

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

"This is where our missing hospitals are," Susana Ruiz, the tax policy lead at Oxfam International, said in a statement. "This is where the pay-packets sit of all the extra teachers and firefighters and public servants we need. Whenever a politician or business leader claims there is 'no money' to pay for climate damage and innovation, for more and better jobs, for a fair post-Covid recovery, for more overseas aid, they know where to look."

From: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/04/us-denounced-biggest-peddler-financial-secrecy-after-pandora-papers-leak


[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"'All You Have to Do Is Follow the Money': Ilhan Omar Rebukes Corporate Democrats"! by John Queally:

"It is corporate greed, and the lawmakers who serve them," argues the Minnesota Democrat, "who are betraying the values of our party and the American people."

ad iudicium?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

"If Americans can't have basic things like childcare, our democracy is a sham" by David Sirota and Andrew Perez


"New polling demonstrates the silencing effect that systemic corruption is having on voter preferences:

82% of registered voters support adding dental and vision benefits to Medicare – and this is voters’ “top priority” for Democrats’ social spending bill, according to survey data from Morning Consult."

"Another top priority for voters is allowing Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices, with 72% saying they support the idea, according to Morning Consult."

"The poll also found that 70% of voters support including paid family and medical leave for new parents."

So, of course Ilhan Omar is right. It's corruption that leads corporate Dems to fail to serve their constituencies time and time again. Just follow the damn money!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Paying Compound Interest On Debt & Unshackled Crapitalism is at root of Americans' Penury & putting young people in debt at the start of their lives ... is yet another further layer of psychopathic evil!

fiat lux et fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

Wealthy bosses forgiven PPP loans without a blink of the eye, but students must suffer under the chains of their debts.

Yes, they used the money for payroll, but so what? They just turned around and kept the money they would have used for payroll, for themselves.

PPP for true small businesses suffering from the pandemic is one thing, but many had wealthy owners and were thriving. There was no means testing.



Tells you what the priorities are in this capitalist sicko country.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Inflation Is Bad for Those Who Profit From Your Mortgage Debt & Student Loans"! (Audio + Transcript)

Yep - such things are exactly what "Tells you what the priorities are in this capitalist sicko country"!

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

Biden breaks campaign promise to forgive $10,000 of student loan debt per student.

Transitioning students back to making payments is a "high priority" of Biden Administration according to Jen Psaki.See video here:


So, PPP money to the tune of millions and millions of dollars for business owners who were in many cases already wealthy people, forgiven, without blinking an eye, but we'll keep our kids in economic chains for trying to better themselves by getting an education.

America needs to really start figuring out what kind of country it's going to be because if we're going to continue to go the route of reactionary fascism, feudalism, and extreme inequality it's going to be very unpleasant.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

YES ... "America needs to really start figuring out what kind of country it's going to be because if we're going to continue to go the route of reactionary fascism, feudalism, and extreme inequality it's going to be very unpleasant"! Ergo,

please try to consider: "SMES make up around 97-99% of the private sector of almost every economy globally. Despite massive losses from the pandemic lockdowns, in the U.S. there were still 30.7 million small businesses reported in December 2020. Small companies account for 64 percent of new U.S. jobs; yet in most U.S. manufacturing sectors, productivity growth is substantially below the standards set by Germany, and many U.S. SMEs are not productive enough to compete with the cost advantages of Chinese and other low-wage competitors. Why?

"Werner observes that Germany exports nearly as much as China does, although the German population is a mere 6% of China’s. The Chinese also have low-wage advantages. How can German small firms compete when U.S. firms cannot? Werner credits Germany’s 1,500 not-for-profit/community banks, the largest number in the world. Seventy percent of German deposits are with these local banks – 26.6% with cooperative banks and 42.9% with publicly-owned savings banks called Sparkassen, which are legally limited to lending in their own communities. Together these local banks do over 90% of SME lending. Germany has more than ten times as many banks engaged in SME lending as the UK, and German SMEs are world market leaders in many industries.

"Small banks lend to small companies, while large banks lend to large companies – and to large-scale financial speculators. German community banks were not affected by the 2008 crisis, says Werner, so they were able to increase SME lending after 2008; and as a result, there was no German recession and no increase in unemployment.

"China’s success, too, Werner attributes to its large network of community banks. Under Mao, China had a single centralized national banking system. In 1982, guided by Deng Xiaoping, China reformed its money system and introduced thousands of commercial banks, including hundreds of cooperative banks. Decades of double-digit growth followed. “Window guidance” was also used: harmful bank credit creation for asset transactions and consumption were suppressed, while productive credit was encouraged.

"Werner’s recommendations for today’s economic conditions are to reform the money system by: banning bank credit for transactions that don’t contribute to GDP; creating a network of many small community banks lending for productive purposes, returning all gains to the community; and making bank behavior transparent, accountable and sustainable. He is chairman of the board of Hampshire Community Bank, launched just this year, which lays out the model. It includes no bonus payments to staff, only ordinary modest salaries; credit advanced mainly to SMEs and for housing construction (buy-to-build mortgages); and ownership by a local charity for the benefit of the people in the county, with half the votes in the hands of the local authorities and universities that are its investors." - from this excellent article:

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas, et ergo - fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 years ago

Do Walmart and Kroger's say to the conservative base that they despise government handouts and the taxes that must eventually follow?

I'm sure they don't care to be taxed and so that part is sincere. But what would they say to losing a substantial part of their income on grocery sales if Food Stamps were cut and that part of their customer base starved? After all, who gets to convert those food stamps to cash? What would slumlords say if welfare disappeared and they couldn't pay their mortgages?

Would it be better to have wealth extracted from you by government taxes or rentier profits? Who gives more useful goods and services for that which they take from you, the government or a Wall St. wheeler-dealer? Which is more necessary to our common well being and survival?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

you mention slumlords, did you know that since about 1999 it has been illegal for the government to build housing? it is only allowed to give people money (vouchers) to pay market price for housing so naturally this drives up the market price, some Democrats are trying to repeal this law, anyway just passing it along

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 years ago

Thanks, I hadn't known about the law. I have reasoned, as I said, that all of the safety net benefits end up in the hands of landlords, medical corps, pharma and grocery stores etc. Without them many more would be homeless and facing shortened lifespans and other miseries. But our politicians care only about Blackstone and other corporate parasites who are buying up all the housing and everything else.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

If we could two prong push on one hand for a "living wage" and for single payer healthcare and show how single payer would affect the "living wage" I think it could open some eyes, but I'm always hopeful...nothing proably will

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

The voucher system is designed to enrich the rich, it is far more cost effective to deliver services directly but conseritives work to keep programs underfunded so the customers don't notice, when the USPS got free of them the GOP imposed a retirement requirement on them that no private company faces to hold them back from competeing fairly..

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"David Graeber: After the Pandemic, We Can’t Go Back to Sleep"!

"In an essay penned shortly before his death, David Graeber argued that post-pandemic, we can’t slip back into a reality where the way our society is organized — to serve every whim of a small handful of rich people while debasing and degrading the vast majority of us - is seen as sensible or reasonable."

spero meliora ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

We must end the scourge of neoliberalism.

Tax the Rich.

Corporations are not people.

Healthcare is a human right.

Free Education.

Living Wage.

End "Employment at Will."

Green New Deal.

No more endless and unjust wars.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"We are witnessing a crime against humanity’ - Arundhati Roy on India’s Covid catastrophe"

This excellent article shows what happens when RW, anti-science nationalism is allowed to run riot! Alarmingly this pattern is playing out in Brazil and UK too. The US however may have had its worst!

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

“Let’s try and not be a cry baby.”

Try not to pay attention to the fact that the possibility of a dire shortage of oxygen had been flagged as far back as April 2020, and then again in November by a committee set up by the government itself. Try not to wonder why even Delhi’s biggest hospitals don’t have their own oxygen-generating plants. Try not to wonder why the PM Cares Fund – the opaque organisation that has recently replaced the more public Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund, and which uses public money and government infrastructure but functions like a private trust with zero public accountability – has suddenly moved in to address the oxygen crisis. Will Modi own shares in our air-supply now?

“Let’s try and not be a cry baby.” - Arundhati Roy

Because, asking for stuff, just basic things that humans need, is considered whining and admitting you have need is considered a failure by a market economy driven by greed and selfishness.

The influence of neoliberalism, the direct result of Ayn Rand's f-kn looney me me me philosophy is taking down the human race and any kind of meaning our lives might have, right before our eyes. This must stop!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Note "Britain is Self-Destructing ... and it’s a Warning to the World"! ... by Umair Haque:

"What happens when people become too foolish and backwards for Democracy to function?"

Thanx for your important quote & comment & note this utterly shocking linked article^above!!

Most Brits haven't even heard of Ayn Rand, yet her malign influence has reached them now!

MULTUM in parvo!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

Voting against their own chance at happiness, that's what these right wing governments have managed to get people to do. Infuriating.

From "Britain is Self-Destructing ... and it’s a Warning to the World"! ... by Umair Haque


"Anyone would be better than the party that has destroyed your society, your chance at a better life, your trust, happiness, income, savings, mobility, possibility."

You would think this would be obvious, but when you are not too bright (because you've been poorly educated) and you don't think for yourself (because you're too busy working long hours at a shitty paying job) and you absorb right wing propaganda (because it's thrown in your face) that your problems were created by the "other," then you are willing to vote against your own actual interests. But, there is one thing required for this to work and that is that you have the tendency to hate people who aren't in one's own likeness. And, that means RACISM.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Jeremy Corbyn on Bernie, COVID & Thatcherism – 2021 Interview"

JC in conversation with Jacobin Media's - Anna Kasparian & Nando Vila.

Just look what you could've had UK! But JC is still in The 99% Struggle!

per ardua ad astra et dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

You say "we must", what specifically do you think we should do? Go camping? Or maybe vote? If we vote, how should we vote? For the Greens?

BTW I don't hold any political office but I'd still like to do something, not just demand others do it...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

U saw the word "Neoliberalism" and were immediately triggered, weren't U frf, lol?! How dare U

assume that we still here don't do things, other than just "vote"?!! U sound like a RW reactionary!

et temet nosce!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

well I see you are still electing Republicans because you LOVE them so much! you LOVE Donald Trump because he saved you from Hillary!

[-] 2 points by gsw (3410) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 2 years ago

sellout Manchin with friends like them were up a creek The Dark Money Influencing Senator Manchin’s Right-Wing Agenda https://truthout.org/articles/the-dark-money-influencing-senator-manchins-right-wing-agenda/

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"AOC Blasts Manchin For Dark Money Ties .. Suggests He’s “Intertwined” With Kochs"! ... by Sharon Zhang:

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 2 points by gsw (3410) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 2 years ago

Oligarch turd stifles popular democracy https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/15/politics/mitch-mcconnell-biden-agenda-manchin/ and they are telling us how they are stealing and killing any potential for democracy we had in future https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-juan-williams-gop-warning_n_60c84a53e4b0bc918b266774

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"The Elites Are Fighting a Vicious Class War - All the Time"! ... (an interview with Noam Chomsky)

From which, this ... "The first thing we should remember is that the Sanders campaign was a remarkable success. Within a couple of years, Sanders and others working alongside him have managed to shift the range of issues that are at the center of attention very far toward the progressive side. That’s really quite significant.They did so with no funding, no corporate support, no media support, the US - media became mildly friendly to Sanders after he lost the nomination - not before. Before .. it was really kind of like what happened to [Jeremy] Corbyn in the UK .. powerful forces were determined to stop anything to the left of the most mild social democracy.

"Looking back at the success of the Sanders campaign ... I think one answer to your question is “keep at it.” Remember, a terrible mistake was made when Obama was elected: namely, a lot of the Left believed in him.Obama had a tremendous amount of popular support, especially from the young people - and lots of young activists and organizers worked to get him elected. After the election - what happened? He told them, “Go home” & unfortunately .. they went home. Within two years - Obama had completely betrayed his constituency, and it showed in the 2010 election."

"I don’t like the system, you don’t like the system but it exists & we have to work within it. We can't say, “I don’t want it. Let’s have another system that doesn’t exist.” We can all only build a new system - through pressure, from inside and from outside.

"So, for example, there’s no reason to avoid working to create an alternative political and social framework by creating a new party or worker-owned enterprises and cooperatives. The point is that there is a whole array of options open to us — and they all have to be pursued."

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Biden needs to start visiting Katie Hobbs in Arizona and talking to her about a Senate run if she don't win grovernor, and have private meeting with machin explaining how he and Obama, The Clintons and Sanders would be making a "blacklist" of those who will not be "loved" by the money people going forward pressure with brass knuckles..

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Yes - "OWS Lives On" ... but what are U doing about the fact that Arizona's Democrap Senator Kyrsten Sinema, who is opposed to the proposed drug pricing reforms in Biden's infrastructure bill, has received more than $750,000 in donations from the pharmaceutical & medical device industries? Read & weep...

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

can you fucking read?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Arizona's Democrap Senator Kyrsten Sinema", was the bone of my contention here but U have evaded replying about her because your crinkly old lips are sooo attached to the fkn DNC's RW butt that U can't bring yourself to critique your cheek of the RW Duopoly's ass, can U - U squably halfwit?!!! Have U even anything to offer the youth & the young in U$A .. other than the same tired tune for co-option & advice to resign to the status quo, that U have been playing for 10 years here & probably for longer - in AZ?!! Here U Centrist Fk; read the following links and go weep but almost guaranteed, U will not reply with anything remotely sensible or critical of The RW Democrap Centrist Establishment - whose de facto agent, U are!

Tho' of course U won't answer but points in the reply,"Previously trapped" below still apply don't they frf? And by the way, maybe "It’s time for Democratic leaders to make Manchin, Sinena and every other senator vote ... and not on some gutted half measure, but on a real $3.5 trillion bill." from ...

NB: "As Sunrise Movement co-founder Will Lawrence said .. 'Put the bill on the floor, load it up with extra investment for West Virginia and Arizona, and dare them to vote it down.'" Read it & weep .. Democraps!

ad iudicium?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Previously trapped in 2000 with Gore, Bush and Nader & now, looking to be mired in 2016 with Hellary and tRUMP; how d'U intend to move forward, when U are trapped in the past?! How do U relate to the young? Try to read the following links in order to gain insight into wtf has been happening or, just fk off with your 'zero-sum game', simplistic, 'Lib/Con' binaries and demented duplicitous duopoly delusions!!

So U "see" - U are actually 'seeing' very little & what little U do see, is very confused IF U think that I'm anything whatsoever to do with "electing Republicans", U duopoly deluded Democrap Ass kissing fool!

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Yes, "OWS Lives On"! But no thanx to the Democraps' Zero-Sum Game, Binary!

No Links; No Latin!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 3 years ago

Still can't see any difference between Biden and Trump? Why am I not surprised.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Can't see past Biden? Or One Election Cycle? Still stuck with simplistic straw man binaries?

Still NO IDEA whatsoever about The Class War being waged upon U$A's 99%, by a 0.01%?

No guarantee Biden makes 4 years; for sure can't do 8. Then what? No idea or care .. right?

Trump was an aberration from 'the norm'; Biden is a correction NOT a solution! Geddit? No?

Still opposed to / ignorant of, the idea of why a True 99% Movement is so important in USA?

"Why am I not surprised?"

PS, NB .. https://www.democracynow.org/2021/1/21/dr_cornel_west_maria_hinojosa_biden

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Have you even looked at anything that's being done? I think not, you're so lazy Shadz. I've been watching what the Democrat AOC has been doing, what the hell has your "doupoly" crap been doing?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

But "lazy" is Pro Status Quo, U duopoly dependent dumb dingbat!!! For every "AOC" there are

several Joe Machins, U total fkn moron!! Republicunts or Democraps, they're on U, factsRfukt!

The USA's 99%'s struggle is way bigger and broader than your Dumb Democrap Dependence!

More of the same inability/refusal to see the Class Struggle past one (s)election cycle is idiotic!

ergo - per aspera ad astra!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

so AOC is a Democrap?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Ocasio-Cortez slams Manchin for $3.5T Bill Opposition, points out Exxon Ties" by Sharon Zhang

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Former “Centrist” Democratic Senator is defending Capital Gains Tax Loophole"by I.Derysh:


[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23769) 2 years ago

Income inequality is measured by the Gini Coefficient. Here's a link to inequality measurements by country:


The reason the United States has similar inequality to corrupt developing nations around the world is that it, too, has a corrupt government which fails to tax the rich to level out this obnoxious, deleterious chasm in inequality which is very harmful to the masses.

It has become clear that being a Democrat is in no way an indicator that a politician is going to fight for the people as the Truth Out article explains. Sad state of affairs.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago


Sadly, it's too true that "being a Democrat is in no way an indicator that a politician is going to fight for the people" & that's why the US 99% can't leave Politics to just professional Politicians! Just as OWS always knew!

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

but being a Repubilcan IS a an indicator, and your point just makes the primaries all the more important all up and down the ticket, that's why Katie Homes is important in AZ, but you are too busy reading and writing about England to see how we can change things here if we pay attention!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Where am I, "too busy reading and writing about England"?!!! I've been on this OWS forum as long as U & I can guarantee I that "pay attention" to US Polytricks, especially 'The Peoples' Politics' .. which is way bigger than kissing The Democrap's Centrist/de facto RW ass, as is your wont!! U are just another voice for the Corporate Banker Ass Kissing; Pro-US War Machine - but can still laughably regard yourself as a "Liberal", whereas your beloved Democraps'd are seen as RW war mongering scum everywhere else! ie consider:

et veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

you are so stuck in the last century we need to get shit done NOW and we do that through the primaries like I've been telling you for a decade

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Re. U$A's RW Duopoly, U have been proposing the same short term myopia for 10 years!!! So what?!! Furthermore, d'U think RW Corp. Dem. scum've been eliminated?! Meanwhile, this continues, unabated:

respice et prospice!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

You have a lot of trouble with reality don't you? That's why your shit don't work it's fake not reality AOC is a Democrat from NY 14th it says so on her web page and you are a republican loving piece of shit...you wish Moscow Mitch was Majority Leader


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

STOP hiding behind AOC - the avowed Democratic Socialist & go start dealing with RW, Corporate

Ass Kissing Democraps, like the corrupt, corporate ass kissing, Democrap bastards highlighted here ...

Your idea of "reality" is of course the Corporate D&R 2-Step Status Quo! Fk That say OWS & The 99%!

If U've nothing to offer the youth nor inspire those who'll resist the Bankers & Corps. - wtf is your point?!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

So are you going to tell me Cori Bush isn't a Democrat? or is she just a "corporate shill" too? There are 95 members of the progressive caucas, I don't expect an answer you're noit capable of answering because all you want to do is kiss trump's ass for saving you from Hillary!

Your shilling for the GOP is getting old Shadz!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

STOP using Cori Bush's skirt to hide behind and deal with RW Democraps! Here's a reply U ignored:

Previously trapped in 2000 with Gore, Bush and Nader & now, looking to be mired in 2016, with Hellary

and tRUMP - how d'U intend to move forward, when U are trapped in the past?! How do U relate to the

young?! Try to read the following links in order to gain insight into wtf has been happening or, just fk off

with your 'zero-sum game', simplistic, 'Lib/Con' binaries and Demented Duplicitous Duopoly Delusions!

So U "see" - U are actually 'seeing' very little & what little U do see - is very confused IF U think that I'm

anything whatsoever to do with "shilling for the GOP" ... U duopoly deluded Democrap Ass kissing dolt!

"Your shilling for the" Democraps, "is getting old" Alan & your "facts" are not "fun" but are Centrist Crap!

A Third Party can not win as long as U continue to not vote for them. That's it. That is what's stopping it!

Stop buying the "but we'll lose" bull & stand for something U want & be counted for it because if U forgo

your principles for the sake of winning, U've already lost to the RW Bankers, Corporations & The 0.01%.

ad iudcium?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

you are trapped in th last century shadz get over yourself! Say something useful for a change and stop kissing Trump's ass and electing Republicans!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

The thing is 19th Century Duopoly Politics - is still your ongoing preference, isn't it?!!! Republicunt or Democrap is your Centrist Option to EveryFknThing, right?!! U & your beloved Democraps Obomber & Hellary are the reason tRUMP got in, U dumb fk, because Oblah-blah was a lying Centrist Tool and she was & still is, a War Mongering Bitch & so when faced with her OR the Devil They Didn't Know, tRUMP won because the Democrap Establishment were/are so fkn detached from The 99%! Get it? Of course U fkn don't but meanwhile ...

Finally, tho' U won't reply; all the points, observations & evidence re.Dennis Kucinich still remain below.

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

NB: Dennis Kucinich on Corrupt City Hall Democrap Perfidy, in this Chris Hedges interview:

FYI: factsrfun - your facts R fukt IF U are still here kissing mainstream Dem ass U Centrist puke!

So have U anything to say about what DK says^above? Or is your centrist head still in the sand?

All U have to offer the young is more of the same incrementalism - but the actual problem is that:

"The Elites Are Fighting a Vicious Class War - All the Time"! (interview with Noam Chomsky)

so read: https://jacobinmag.com/2021/06/noam-chomsky-class-war-universal-health-care-climate-justice-denuclearization & STOP puking pro status quo centrist b-s for the 10th OWS anniversary!

e tenebris, lux?!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 years ago

Trumpery regime has delayed the nuclear-war reckoning. We'll just have to see whether we can avoid that with the Biden-Harris vaccine. The Demonkrapts have traitors among them who will block the party's agenda for their states' localized gains so don't be too hopeful.

The Demonkrapts had control of all three branches and both houses of the most powerful branch of our federal government right after the Obama administration had started and yet it couldn't deliver anything better than Romney Care. Our coal states' representatives are the bane of our nation's advancement, obviously. Obama's administration had only sent a Martha Stewart to jail and no one else for the systemic fraud committed by the Wall Street investment bankers and rating agencies. Even the Reagan adminitration sent thousands of fraudsters of the Savings and Loan Debacle to jail. Martha Stewart only did what our U.S. Senate intelligence committee member did about the oncoming CoViD-19 pandemic -- trading on insider information. Note that although I had told whoever wanted to know from here about the upcoming onslaught of CoViD-19, it wasn't insider information because I had cloaked it as political speech ( but the thinking people probably deciphered what I had truly wanted to say -- no one needed to wear an N-95 mask to express solidarity with the Hong Kongers ! as lower-grade masks could have worked symbolically; as I had said before, "There is gold in them Pis ! " -- I got more than enough for myself, of God's liquid gold baptizing me multiple times so I shared.)

Male primates lay their Tee-off hands upon the rumps of the females to signal their desire to mate so our powerful men grab women's breasts to do the same. Homo sapiens sapiens have advanced to grabbing a different side of the females. Absolutely glorious ! Only wise primates which belong to the same level as King Solomon and possess Nobel-prize-winner "quality" sperm could have figured out that humanizing breakthrough, largely avoiding the error of "wrong hole" which was known to afflict some childless couples of Great-Infowalled countries such as Red China { or perhaps Japan also } ( the U.S. isn't one of these because we stage sexually explicit bachelor parties in which skills are passed on with the wonderful national-defense-supporting-by-whetting-babymaking help of a beautifully suggestive female model and dancer { but there is absolutely no hands-on touching allowed as the bridegroom's whetted appetite is reserved for his mating with his bride } and demonstrated via educational videos to the bridegroom; we don't field uneducated husbands to become newly weds on the battlefield of marriage so that they can become fruitful and multiply; With proper intelligence arming our bridegrooms, Americans score so we don't have large population declines, the sure killers of any society; we also import vast number of hopefully young susceptible-to-patriotic-civics immigrants who can leap off and over the old-time flight exit corridor 鯉魚門 "as in an Alaskan airport, there's nothing but the cold, jetfuel, [maybe rapes] and myriad of mosquitoes basking in the weak light of the low-in-the-sky sun" to replenish our population shortfall so that America as an idea, Liberty/"E Pluribus Unum," shall never die.) Of course, humans are the only ( oops - I was wrong ! the bonobos also made this humanizing breakthrough but they're also sexy ones just like humans are so as an avid scientist, I amend my hypothesis to "highly socially cooperative primates may mate face-to-face and use sex for soliciting social cooperation, promoting Xi-harmony" { Australia and the U.S. woke up to us having been fucked; other weaker countries liked being prostitutes and probably loved getting more Xi-fucked-up-for-Xi-money; they're not concubines because Red China had outlawed polygamy so Xi can't have concubines but who the prostitute cuntries are can be as secretive as the Hogwart-attending daughter Xi Mingze had been, classified as being just another state secret; Truth: children tend to look like their parents } ) primates who mate in the godly missionary position face-to-face and it's probably true that only Homo females have such large and heavy bags of fat dangling from their front sides so yeah, they are indeed more attractive to Homo males who have baby hands-grabbing-for-fruits fetish and thus also love playing and grabbing basketballs. Perhaps due to their subliminal sexual frustration and sublimation coming from the horrendously imbalanced sex ratio, most Red Chinese males love playing basketball. Red China is rather deprived in the silicone/cosmetic-surgery department, nowhere close to U.S. Hollywood L.A. ( breast enhancements ) or South Korea ( nose jobs.) When I had to piss, my Dad told me of his trick to prevent me pissing in my pants: run briskly, take aim, and get it into the hoop. Yeah, that sounded like a basketball game to me, one which a whole bunch of our teenaged bronco bucks who still lacked King Solomon's wisdom ( or King David's quick study ) surely missed playing on Lantau/Lantou Island while climbing over to the other side of the mountain after drinking Bath-she-bra's soapy bathwater. I had actually followed Dad's direction after drinking the tall glass of freshly squeezed orange juice. Thus I found favor in God's eyes and got myself baptized by the bidét. I shouldn't have pressed the wrong button at the wedding banquet but... God willing !

Let me tell you what I think our Trumpery regime did well: we haven't got into an official fight with the Russians or the North Koreans. Of course, I was far more concerned with the Russians in Syria than North Korea' pyrotechnics at that time. The Russians had a history of disguising themselves to invade nearby countries such as Ukraine with Russian-speaking Russian-military-equipped no-Russian-insignia balaclava-clad contractors { who broadcast Pootin's "state secret" of invading Ukraine, to the world that they were in Ukraine ! Here's a previous "state secret" about the greatest tanking battle won by the cover-up truthy State in the Great Patriotic War of 2002 while Stalin continued to vacation on Black Sea's shore for four more days; the yelling mother was given a jab to silence her; I should have shot at that humongous aluminum mother hen screaming above the Kowloon-City rooftop right after her chicken's throat had been slit, drained of blood, and stuffed into a bucket of black goo } or attacking the U.S. in cyberspace. Turkey did shoot down a Russian fighter jet when the Russians bullied it by trespassing its airspace. The U.S. also did kill hundreds of Russian mercenary contractors in East Syria being funded by Iran.

With Hillary's no-fly zone over northern Syria to be imposed by the U.S. airforce, we could have gotten/got ourselves into a shooting war with Russia ! Actually, it could be Ukraine that will become the fuse. Stalin was so idiotic in the Winter War with bullying Finland, a neighboring country which should have been on U.S.S.R. side because Nazi Germany would soon be invading both Finland and the U.S.S.R. but Stalin was so bent on gobbling up neighbors as the several small Baltic countries had already been swallowed by the U.S.S.R. It's just karma that now-Russia's neighbors largely aspire to join N.A.T.O. Contrast U.S.S.R.'s dealing with Finland with U.S.A.'s dealing with Mexico when it was hit by the Asian financial contagion and we can all see why the U.S. has far more allies worldwide than Russia does. The U.S. leases hundreds of military bases worldwide largely not because the U.S. has fought many wars to acquire them but because the U.S. is considered to be contributing to security, peace, and prosperity over there and is relatively benign when compared to the alternatives such as the Red Giants.

I very much regret that the U.S. had killed so many unwitting-of-their-Iran-backing Russian mercenary contractors in East Syria. I had previously stated that "I don't hate Russia; I don't hate the Russian people; I hate the way in which Russia's government treats its own people." When the U.S. soldiers asked the Russian deconfliction command whether any Russians were involved in the tank-powered attack on U.S. soldiers in East Syria, the Russian deconfliction command should have replied "yes" and called off all of the Russians fighting in the battle there. I think that the U.S. soldiers had indeed suspected that they might be fighting the Russians or they wouldn't have called up the Russian deconfliction command to confirm the absence of any Russians there fighting in the battle. In the murkiness of the nighttime attacks, they didn't quite know for sure with whom they were fighting. They showed the American flag and called the Russian deconfliction command. They operated according to the established rules of engagement which had the right to self defense ( by calling in airstrikes.) Pootin's subsequent cover-up was disgusting and irresponsible, precisely what I had stated previously: I hate the way in which Russia's government treats its own people. Yeah, the Navalny case is a human right violation and a travesty of justice.

I know how that out-of-field-of-view protection worked. I didn't carry a light carbine when I was baptized at the second time ( not by a bidét but probably by a chamber pot ) but those Set-High-In-Transit resettlement-buildings' people would certainly "hear all of us" with the shots into their pocketbooks and more. He makes all things beautiful, in His time [in Cantonese, not CCP's contrarian-named Putonghua because Putonghua is hua or speech that is absolutely not Putong or common in southern China which is south of the mighty Yangtze/Yangtse River].

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

So postings like this will surely make it better, right?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

Right. This has already made it better. Whale shark is the biggest fish in the pond with entourage but it's not as scary as the Great White shark without much entourage. Lions shall lie down next to the sheep and eat the grass together.

The Obama administration did one better than Pootin's unadministration because it had sent one Martha Stewart to jail in the aftermath of the systemic-fraud-triggered Great Recession felt worldwide but the latter had found no one responsible for the Kursk submarine crew's demise. U.S.A. is so much more superior than Russia is, by having the Democrats in charge ! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! Vote, Vote, Vote Democrat ! God bless Amerika.

New Orleans ( bow-shaped and a part of it was already under water level before hurricane Katrina hit; both Popular Mechanics and Scientific American magazine, after the manmade disasters of Sep. 11th, 2001, had published articles predicting the catastrophic drowning of New Orleans { the Bushit-political-loyalty-appointee, that other "Adjunct Lecturer" padded to an "Outstanding Political Science Professor" Michael D. Brown, was "leadening" the FEMA rescue effort }; if Japan were a more worldly literate culture, it could have noticed the Haitian tsunami of 2010 and taken actions to avoid the Tohoku tsunami triggering the multiple nuclear reactor meltdowns at Fukushima in 2011 which probably wouldn't have happened if IMPORTED electricity were still available for driving the cooling-water pumps { New Orleans during Katrina also had very powerful water pumps to limit flooding but without electricity they couldn't work to save the city from being drowned; } it's why I said that Japan had an insular culture, perhaps due to its not being plugged in to the English-speaking world's chatter; this is why I value multilingual understanding because using it often provides superior early warning of major events coming at us which had first been experienced by other peoples; also cover-ups by governments tend not to work effectively on the multilingual multisensory global monitors due to the disclosures by their friends, oppositions, or enemies ) needs to retreat away from the seawater/lake or brackish water of the Gulf of Mexico to get to higher grounds as many coastal cities do, especially areas near Seattle which shore faces an offshore tectonic plate subduction zone so it needs to be prepared for a big earthquake and perhaps a subsequent tsunami but don't move to valley areas too close to that prominently visible active volcano Mt. Rainier which may erupt melting the huge snow and ice pack surrounding its peak, quickly steaming and flushing most things down its slopes.

They don't bury the dead in.. New Orleans.

But really do others ? How about Leningrad/St. Petersburg submariners, Yekaterinburg/Sverdlovsk czar family's execution and anthrax leak from a non-Chinese but still Soviet-Red bioweapon facility, and Khabarovsk сергей фургал ? MH-17 Dutch funeral procession ?

бабушка, бабушка, бабушка ! 》Daß nie eine Mutter mehr Ihren Sohn beweint, Ihren Sohn beweint.《

As the World mourns the deaths in the fight against новичок terrorism and N.A.T.O. finally draws down the troops in Afghanistan, we can learn from the techniques used by Walt Disney World to keep mosquitoes away to guard against mosquitoes' insurgence. No mosquito breeding ground is to be allowed. Mosquitoes are the worst killers of human beings.

I like the very old no-gutter, yay ! Chinese architecture which drains and disperses rainwater on roofs automatically. I used to think the partly near-brachistochrone-shaped-for-drainage-gradient-for-wide-rainwater-dispersion curved roof was an artistic implement but it's actually very functional: such a roof is literally drainage ditches, strong ceramic curved tile steps, and great heat-insulating ceramic curved tiles all integrated into one. Ceramic is forever material, aside from its being brittle. We can still clearly read many ancient Babylonian cuneiform tablets from several millennia ago.

I figured out why so many ( 35 to 55 millions ) Red Chinese were starved in the Great Famine ( also in order to misdirect blame, deliberately misnamed by the famine-inducing butchers of Red China as the three-year natural disaster.) I also understand why they went after the sparrows and impressed my Mom so much that although they couldn't fly, the sparrows which could fly still couldn't escape: they probably ate the sparrows which the CCP blamed for eating the harvest, causing their starvation.

There was probably systemic lying up and down the command chain ( no different from the U.S.S.R.'s systemic lies after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the Kursk submarine disaster; Red China's deliberate decision to let Chinese New Year mass festivities of 2020 and international flights to proceed while banning domestic flights were similarly covering up the severity of the CoViD-19 threat to the Chinese people and the entire outside world ) there being so much fear of the despot's punishments that virtually everybody was meeting their quotas of production by lying. The non-liars got punished for missing their quotas and starved while the liars were spared and fed. The ones at the top continued to export foodstuffs to the U.S.S.R. under the premise of the lie propagated from the lower levels that there was ample harvest with quotas having been met. Liars were thus Darwinian-selected to remain in the Party of manmade famine butchers.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

If only you had something to say, perhaps one day you will find it...the thing is in an age of "Q" this shit just ain't that funny anymore.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

Having a two-party political system in the U.S. still helps in this age of "Q" because the opposition tries hard to dig out the dirt of the other side. If somehow power is transferred to another party, usually that party still has a fair number of previously government-experienced people who can join the new administration to give a steady hand to help with the transition.

The U.S. electorate is deeply divided and fickle so this small island of moderation is still very desirable, although I believe that the GOOP has gone off "the deep end" so even as a staunch believer in multiparty democracy being a superior political system due to its asynchronous operations ( over the long run, asynchronous systems far outperform synchronous systems, as already well evidenced by the stagnation and often collapse upon foreign subsidy withdrawal of the socialist "be-a-silent-obedient-cog-of-the-vast-state-machine" countries; only the diehard idiots still haven't grasped the poetry in "Socialism with Chinese characteristics," ) I agree with Red China that single-party dictatorship has its merit in the U.S. now: anyone who doesn't support 一党专政 is unpatriotic and should be cooked and eaten ( to be excreted with the myoglobin marker once it has been processed.)

Cooking is highly recommended due to the likely presence of parasites ( ticks, mitches, and cooties ) on them. A few terms of one-party dictatorship are good as long as it's doing the right things but we don't want decades of strongman consolidation of power leading to an inevitable revolution which is always very damaging to almost everyone in that society. Revolution is to be avoided as much as possible but if the strongman makes any other way impossible, let the heads roll from the guillotine ( the greatest modernizing invention of the French during the Reign of Terror making executions both clean cut and efficient -- you won't see a black-cloth-masked executioner wielding an axe chasing the grunting and snorting long pig up onto a roof ! ) In our Hong Kong shantytown, the man wielding a meat cleaver chasing after a chicken which flew up to a roof made quite a deep impression upon me. I just knew that my Mom and my Big Brother could have done the task far more quietly without all the squawking and commotion. The technique for quietly killing a rooster every morning before dawn for ritual sacrifice was handed down as our bygone familial business heritage. We no longer kill as much as before but even I as a young child had learnt from my adults doing it.

First get a medium-size bowl to catch the blood to be drained from the fowl's throat and more-than-half-cut-through windpipe ( to severe the large blood vessels in the neck ) in order not to make a mess and put a meat cleaver near it. Grab both of the fowl's legs ( which have sharp talons; in the context of a revolution, these are the armed forces ) with both hands and transfer to grab both legs with a single hand and lift the legs up in the air so that the fowl's head and neck dangle downward. With the other hand, grab the fowl's neck and pull it close to the hand holding the two legs. Using the thumb and forefinger of the hand holding the legs, pluck away the neck feathers. The nearby wing when stretched and crossed atop the neck can help hold it tightly to the body... "no fowl has been murdered in the preparation for this heritage 劏鸡 enactment." We no longer do any ritual sacrifices due to our changes of belief and the loss of the old familial business and I have become far more vegetarian since my childhood as I gained knowledge about the properties of different foods, spices, and flavorings, so killing animals for food has become much less necessary. I recall that I disliked eating vegetables in my young childhood because they tasted bitter but as I grew older they just tasted less bitter. It might be my sense of taste getting duller with age.

Spend big on infrastructure because of the already forty-some years of neglect. The people will also be needing the jobs as the pandemic-related stimulus winds down. The GOOPy asses cut taxes of the rich people and let the opposition party deal with the financial consequences. Turning the table around on these asses makes sense. No matter what, we must get the infrastructure improved. The GOOPy asses never gave an inch to compromise when they could, so shove it.

Recall the failures of the "Black" Obama Presidency due to the GOOPy ticks, mitches, and cooties. Both Houses and the Presidency are again under single-party control as it was in 2009 when Obama let the opportunity to swing it big slip out of his hands over time under the White GOOPy obstruction. The right way to deal with it this time is to plow through the White GOOPy obstruction.

The U.S. still has NO high-averaged-speed train service even for the heavily traveled corridor in the Northeast from Boston to Washington D.C. after four decades of "developing it." The whole stunted fiasco began with the early financial decision to share the freight railroad with the high-speed passenger trains. While driving, have you been blocked at a railroad crossing by a passing freight train and counted how many cars it had ? How easy is it to avoid serious damage if a high-speed passenger train on the same track slams into the freight train with its scores of cars ? The known-for-centuries-already laws of dry friction say that the horizontal force required to keep a 10-car freight train moving is about the same as a 72- or 108-car freight train. What's so magical about these numbers 72 and 108 ? The profit motive means that freight trains will be as long as possible to capture the profits from nearly freebie shipment in the additional cars, essentially making the freight trains extremely massive and thus nearly immovable in a collision. Thus nearly all of the kinetic energy will be absorbed by causing damage on the passenger train. The whole fiasco of the last forty years of "high-speed" training could have been avoided altogether if there were a college student who had studied college-freshman-level physics and business profit motive exercising freedom of speech and voicing the following informed opinion while sitting on the governing board: disallow freighttrainbergs on the Northeast railroad corridor to await a high-speed "full-steam-ahead" Titannic passenger carrier to slam into it.

It's very disturbing that our swing-state electorate doesn't care much about our overseas affairs. It's the blind leading the World to eat Georgia's unreproductive cloned peaches coal-fired upon a spit.

Actually I like how well Operation Warp Speed has gone, even with the Trumpery ass headwind, thanks to our "deep state" doing "Socialism with American characteristics." With many vaccinations being or having been done, the U.S. is reopening its economy ! It's the Amazing Success of the Biden-Harris vaccine ! 保护爱国, 一党专政。

For being a rather healthy individual, I was nearly in the last group of adults to be allowed ( still as early as I could, though ) to get vaccinations against CoViD-19. Even I, being late in the U.S. to be vaccinated as an adult, am almost totally done with these vaccinations this time around ( I got an mRNA-active-ingredient-based vaccine, the active ingredient of which, messenger RNA, acting upon the proteome, does not mess with my genetic material in the cellular nuclei because it lacks the proper enzymes and thus cannot cause cancers by reaching through the cellular-nuclear membrane to cleave and splice the genetic material; I'm sure that there was a little bit of antifreeze in the vaccine to prevent it from freeze/thaw damage in the extremely cold temperature it was required to be stored due to RNA being more breakable than DNA but a little bit should cause no harm to kidneys; life choices involve tradeoffs; I abhor my experience with my suspected CoViD-19 case contracted on February 8th, 2020 and done with on February 11th, 2020; I felt the stabbing pain in my back and nearly suffocated/fainted so vaccinations' mosquito-bite-like needle pricks and the subsequent red and swollen-to-egg-size painful-if-bumped reactions at the injection site for about two days per injection were by far more preferable; I was exceedingly lucky with the extrapolation from my experiences eating extremely sour kumquat kernels { which my Big Brother being unusually nice peeled for me } and my early-adulthood janitorial office job of cleaning the [septic] toilet in the U.S.)

Yeah, this "Q" isn't funny anymore ( perhaps we might still catch up to the CCP's Operation Warp Truth's dynastic-subjects' 阿Q精神, { had strongman-wannabe CoViDio-T not wasted time pumping GOOPy extremist asses full of Trumpery hot me-Thane but worked assiduously on quickly fielding the vaccinations, CoViDio-T would have won forthrightly instead of doing the fruitless harebrained votes recounts } ) but with U.S. vaccinations succeeding and our looking forward to fireworks and cannon shots, this summer will be far more fun than last year's !

I'm hoping that my compatriots will get themselves vaccinated, too, for the U.S. to reach herd immunity: Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité.

This is the Kings' "flu" virus pandemic. The virus was ready by January 17th, 2020, to be express-dispersed by jet flights worldwide on [victim] Chinese diaspora's trips' returning legs. 这是中共大爸发RNA红包 to celebrate Chinese New Year on January 23rd !

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

yeah you and Q creating the world with your words rather than trying to understand what is and pushing it in a better direction, well good luck with that...