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Forum Post: one bomber dead & one bomber is fugitive & one other arrested

Posted 1 year ago on April 19, 2013, 9:18 a.m. EST by mideast (506)
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By KEVIN CIRILLI 4/19/13 8:57 AM EDT

Chechen rebels seeking to create an independent Muslim Chechnia—
in the spotlight now because of the reported background of the two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings — have a history with Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden backed the Chechan rebels in the 1990s during their civil wars with Russia, with then-Russia Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (the country’s current president) has claimed that bin Laden visited with the rebels. Bin Laden reportedly wanted to help them become an independent Muslim state in the region, The Associated Press reported in 1999.

The Council on Foreign Relations has also said that the “the Islamic International Peacekeeping Brigade (IIPB) is the primary channel for Islamic funding of the Chechen guerillas, in part through links to al-Qaeda-related financiers on the Arabian Peninsula.”

The Associated Press reported Friday that the two suspects — one of who was killed following an early morning police pursuit — in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings are brothers from a Russian region in Chechnya.

According to the Council, the Taliban was one of the only governments in the world to recognize Chechnya as an independent state. Zacarias Moussaoui — a convicted terrorist involved with the planning of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, was also a recruiter Chechen rebels, The Council on Foreign Relations noted.

Located in Russia’s North Caucasus region, the majority Muslim Chechens are still governed by Russian rule but conflict is frequently violent and tense. In recent years, the Islamic insurgency has taken root in other parts of Russia’s North Caucasus region, including the Russian provinces of Dagestan and Ingushetia.

Chechen rebels are responsible for multiple terrorist attacks throughout Russia.
In 2002, armed Chechens seized a musical theater in Moscow and took hundreds hostage in a multi-day standoff that ended when Russian forces pumped gas into the facility and stormed the theater.
In 2004, they were behind the Russian school hostage crisis in Beslan, in which more than 350 people were killed.
Following the school massacre, Putin publicly warned the U.S. about ties between Al Qaeda and the Chechen rebels, according to The Middle East Quarterly.

Islamic Chechen rebels recently plotted a terrorist attack for the 2014 Winter Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia, which authorities uncovered in 2010.
More recently, Chechens supported Syrian rebels.



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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13718) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

bit early to cast blame on the Chechen rebels isn't it? Didn't we take their side back in the 90s?

If I have my facts right - and it is early yet, some of the links I found wouldn't open - but IF -

then it would appear the dead suspect was a golden gloves boxer - that opens the door to possible connections with organized crime. In a city where the Mayor wants to change the rules regarding the taxi industry, an industry dominated by a single individual.

This could easily be the result of local politics - with a whole series of nimrods and nitwits attempting to harness these events to their own individual agendas - including fundraising - which is almost certain to result - to the benefit of the entire surveillance industrial complex . . . .

Do you mind if we wait, just until more facts arrive, before we blame the muslim community?

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Let's wait before we blame any community. Sound good to you?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (15413) from South Burlington, VT 3 days ago I don't blame ya - here's a short list, 50% of the violence and the majority of the victims may be laid to rest at the feet of right wing conservative paranoia and ranting then there are the assassinations - and a few mass murderers, should I compile another list? It's likely homegrown - and if you want the history which demonstrates that probability I'll go get it. It's out there. From Kopp the abortion doctor assassin to a variety of other right wing extremists.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (15413) from South Burlington, VT 2 days ago well you know what they say - you hear what you want to hear - and I'm not hearing any new facts - so must be you concede: Has al Qaeda claimed responsibility? - - - No Is Patriots Day not a day traditionally reserved for . . . home grown right wing violence? - - - Yes

Boston Marathon bombs packed with gunpowder, shrapnel that is the hallmark of the minions of rabid, right wing, fanatical fundamentalists who in one way or the other have been zombified by conservative Christendom subservient to the repelican choir of ravens who hover about the carcass of Koch suckers bleeding this nation dry.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (13718) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

so you do have an agenda. I thought so. I merely gave my best analysis at the time based on the evidence available.

You really should provide a link back to where you lifted these comments - as it is I'm positive you have either added or detracted text from what I actually said, and your cut and paste removes all context from the comments you posted.

Typical right wing tactics - cut, paste, edit, smear.


And you still have not demonstrated that this is not homegrown - it remains a possibility even now that we have suspect ids.

The entire process of radicalization of these individuals could very easily have nothing to do with international considerations.

It could, sure. But we do not have evidence of that yet.

You freaky right wing fuker you


[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

I'm not demonstrating anything. I said from the start that anybody who jumps to conclusions and blames ANY group without knowing all the facts is an asshole.

You're stuff came from here


[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13718) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

well if that was simply your point, all you had to do was ask. I do not deny it. Of course it is true

I'm glad to see you've finally come around to my way of thinking.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Do you think you should have a right to own a gun?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13718) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago


  • you nervous?
[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

No hard feelings I hope. I really do like you.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13718) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

just leave the nutters alone

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

I promise


[-] 1 points by mideast (506) 1 year ago

as of 7:30PM friday, The suspect is seriously wounded and cornered by police
He is hiding in a boat that is in a local back yard
Police dont want to get close because he may have a bomb
They are trying to get him to surrender

[-] 1 points by mideast (506) 1 year ago

latest reports - the fugitive ran over his brother & killed him in his escape but Boston PD may have him cornered in a area in Boston & another suspect may be on an Amtrack train

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

You gotta love that uncle. My kind of guy.

[-] -1 points by freewriterguy2 (3) 1 year ago

who cares if a couple of people blow up a couple of people. I just don't go out where a lot of other people will be cause I know you are targets. I don't blame him cause I know most people are just plain stupid. For example, some stupid people in our government has tried to take away our right to carry a weapon like in the batman shooting theatre incident, no wonder why 70 people got shot, (they were all sitting ducks because of a stupid rule (no weapons allowed). (Get the hell out of the way of our rights, and I doubt anyone would have gotten shot except the perpetrator.) Same principle on airplane travel. the stupid people are spending trillions of dollars of future debt to check us for weapons before entering the planes. Let us all carry, and 160 passengers vs. 4 Saudi Arabian terrorists who do you think would win? Answer, not one plane would have been lost. STUPID PEOPLE!