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Forum Post: Occupy Trashes Rand Paul

Posted 10 years ago on Aug. 18, 2013, 9:11 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Only for a little while.

They'll want it to drop like a rock.

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[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Check this place out Zen.

some of it's a bit dated, but I love the concept.

http://www.criminalizeconservatism.com/

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You have to follow some links.

http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con/print

And look who's there.

David Graeber.

http://www.thebaffler.com/blog/2013/05/david_graeber_defiantly_having_fun

I do recall his comments on right wingers in the early days.

He knew they wouldn't come in support.

He was correct.

No one commented, when I posted the link though.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I'm on a minor league roll.

I got another one!!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/rnc-votes-to-ban-cnnmsnbc-debates-which-they-have-/#comment-995176

Baffler is an MIT publication............but who wouldn't be biased, compared to Mitt's bias?

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Occupy Sandy, went to see Mr. Paul.

While asking for truth, they caused him to stall.

He looked away tellingly.

Because what he's selling me.

Isn't the truth at all.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I like it.

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I thought it was well metered......:)

and accurate too.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

I was thinking a 10 on accuracy.

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[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Thank you.....:)

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

The classists are not interested in the people. (quote) After the fundraiser ended the protesters gathered in the street, hoping to block the senator’s motorcade and seize one last chance at confronting Paul head on. Eventually, the police intervened, and the cars were allowed to pass.

“When we were in front of his vehicle, we asked him to come out and talk to us. Nobody was banging on the glass. We were right in front of the vehicle, and he just pretended we weren’t there, like he does with the rest of the people in this country,” said Black. “He doesn’t care.”(unquote)

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Rand endorsed Romney. Just another politician looking to get the perks of DC life.

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[-] -2 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange gave a strong endorsement to the libertarian wing of the GOP on Thursday, praising Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), for their political views.

"[I] am a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul for their very principled positions in the U.S. Congress on a number of issues," Assange said during a forum hosted by Campus Reform and transparency organization OurSay.org. "They have been the strongest supporters of the fight against the U.S. attack on WikiLeaks and on me in the U.S. Congress. Similarly, they have been the strongest opponents of drone warfare and extrajudicial executions."

Assange went on to commend the libertarian ideal of "non-violence" with regards to military engagements, the draft and tax collection. He then put forth an argument against both established political parties in Washington, claiming that nearly all Democrats had been "co-opted" by President Barack Obama's administration, while Republicans were almost entirely "in bed with the war industry."

The current libertarian strain of political thought in the Republican Party was the "the only hope" for American electoral politics, Assange concluded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/16/julian-assange-rand-paul_n_3768841.html

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You spend a lot of time over at huffpost do you?

strange indeed.

[-] -2 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

Shoes, I can only hope this sort of post is a thing of the past now that you've extended the olive branch tonite. You see, this is the sort of stuff that annoys me, and no doubt others, about you. Instead of commenting on Julian's statements, your entire post is just a personal attack (of sorts) on me. If you don't have anything to say about content, can't you just move on?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You misunderstand.

I said I would accept an olive branch from the perpetrators of those attacks.

I said it would be necessary.

No branch has come forth.

Indeed.............quite the opposite.

I received comments bragging about their reprehensible behavior instead. Outright lies, about those behaviors.

You want to start talking about the Paul boys?

Really?

They are both bigots.

[-] 0 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Yes?

[-] 0 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

You honestly think I am a supporter of the right?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I really don't know what you are.

Indications are confused.

Why do you ask, at this point?

After your many, many insults, what do you expect me to think?

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Thought I'd try to get a clear answer once and for all.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

How many times have you been banned?

How many puppets have you employed?

Don't give me no shit about clear answers.

I can't answer that question clearly, until you begin to answer mine, and you have failed completely in that regard..

Mostly, you just bitch incessantly about being asked.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Hmmm, not impressed with that.

[-] -2 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

Heh, heh....I posted it to tug on shoes' chain. Actually, you'll note he only praised a couple of Liberatarian "planks". As with anything, there are good and bad points.

Isn't he running for office in your country?

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

Yes, for the senate. Has a few running mates as well.

When people start talking about libertarians, I mention that the Koch brothers ran on that ticket.

On Assange, if you can believe this release, he's "lurching" to the far right. Sounds like BS, but I'll leave it in your capable hands. Dinner time here.

http://ausvotes2013.com/2013/08/18/the-wikileaks-party-lurches-to-the-right-preferences-fascists-mens-righters-and-gun-lovers-above-the-greens/

[-] 0 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

I was shocked that an Aussie could tell me something about our elections that I didn't know. I googled Koch and saw he ran for VP in 80. I still didn't remember it, so I googled the 80 election. It just mentioned Jimmy,Ronnie, and the guy I voted for....John Anderson. I am betting the lib party didn't make the ballot in my state.

The fact he WAS a Lib for one election is really not enough to reason to discard the party. Part of their platform in 80 was to decriminalize victimless crimes (drugs,gays), Pretty radical 33 yrs ago. No candidate or party is perfect. You must prioritize your own issues and then pick a candidate that's the best fit.

Will read your link later. Time for bed and the fact I didn't remember him ever running bothered me more!!!!

[-] 0 points by seachange4us (-2) 10 years ago

We can learn a lot from the token Aussie & Brit on here

No candidate is a perfect fit

But our's are all made by the same manufacturer

[-] -2 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

Well, I read that link and boy, your elections sound a lot more complicated than ours! Single dad's party and something about sex? And votes cascade down to others if you don't win. I bet your election night coverage is a lot more interesting than ours!!!

Doesn't sound so much a lurch to right. More like a strategy to defeat the greens?

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 10 years ago

It is a bit more exciting than a two-fisted fight.

I just hope for a handful of independents who can carry the wishes of minorities through to the bargaining table.

We call it democracy.

Not sure what you call it in a plutocracry.

[-] -2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 10 years ago

Julian doesn't know what he's talking about. Dems like war just as much as repubs. Like Carlin said, we're a war-like people and we get lot's of practice. Dems aren't as heavily invested in oil as the pubs. It's been all about the pubs for the last 20 years. The draft? He didn't get the memo on that- that's what all the protesting was about during Nam, to end the draft.

Like his father Rand is an isolationist. They're not realistic. The US is going to spend major dollars on defense no matter what for the forseeable future. I just wish Americans would make a much greater effort to act like human beings when they serve.

I've had it with this place. I'm going to check out the clubs in Tokyo.

I do like the tarians stance on the DP, military spending and the war on drugs. They still act too nutty a lot of the time. Always babbling the fed.

[+] -4 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

the fuck should i care what some ninny thinks? let him fix the uk they are far worse off and further down the police state road. btw the pauls are frauds. cant be a true libertarian and be antiabortion sorry intellectual fail.

[-] -1 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

Blood, I am pretty sure Julian was an occupy hero for a while.

The abortion views of the Paul's are personal. Their policy/voting records on this issue are "libertarian". It takes a solid man to be able to separate the 2.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 10 years ago

You have a point. There was a time when abortion views were personal. That was gone with Reagan.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 10 years ago

This is true. Some smaller countries like the UK are WAY beyond the US as far as security measures- police state if you will.

Right-on about the Pauls.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

the uk is the new world order testing ground.

[+] -4 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 10 years ago

Sure they did.