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Forum Post: "Occupy Democrats"...merging "Occupy" and "Obama"...!!!

Posted 6 months ago on Jan. 16, 2014, 1:31 p.m. EST by Peake (10)
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"Political Organization: Occupy Democrats, a merger of the goals and interests of Occupy with those of President Obama's "new" Democratic Party, is a new and growing grassroots political organization/news website: www.occupydemocrats.com"

They're on Facebook and Twitter and have already blocked me on Twitter, and responded to my emails with "Yeah whatever lol" "Umm no thanks." "Blah blah good riddance". They claimed on Twitter:

Occupy Democrats ‏@OccupyDemocrats @Mike_Peake You're so very angry. OWS is non-partisan, we're Democrats, as our name clearly states.

@Mike_Peake We're still waiting for you to realize you're wasting your breath. We have differing opinions and goals. Occupy is not uniform.

Do I have to explain the depth of fail? Occupying for Obama while ignoring his secretly fast-tracking the TPP, allowing/ordering 7,000+ arrests of actual Occupy members via riot police, massive hand-outs to Goldman Sachs and Wall Street, protecting Wall Street from prosecution...being a Democrat is suddenly "non-partisan"? Obama Denial Syndrome is in full effect.

If you wish to alert them to the NYC GA's Declarations of non-partisanship, of anti-corporatism, of supporting NO political party, of being for the people of the country and against the money bastards, please feel free. As often as you wish, for as long as you wish.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats http://www.occupydemocrats.com/

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[-] 3 points by redandproud (17) 6 months ago

For the last time, the DEMOCRATS are CAPITALISTS. End of story! They are enemies.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

You must have a lot of enemies.

Let me ask you a question? LOL ( as if)

What party is this guy part of?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/16/3174021/vitter-photo-food-stamps/

[-] 1 points by redandproud (17) 6 months ago

Can you think outside of the Democrat-Republican box?

I hate both parties. I know it sounds crazy, but it's possible that both of them are bad.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

All the time. In fact, I get attacked for pointing out the actions of libe(R)tarians.

Most can't think beyond the black and white of DvR.

Are you capable of answering questions?

It would appear, you are not.

You are consumed and blinded by your HATE.

Thanks for admitting it.

[-] 1 points by redandproud (17) 6 months ago

Are you serious? What questions?

Yeah, I hate capitalists. I thought I made that clear.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

No. what you said, is that you can't think outside the D & R box.

You also admitted that you have difficulty answering questions.

Are you the user formerly known as peake?

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[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (586) 6 months ago

Remember who was thrown to the curb in 2008, it was Hillary Clinton. Why? Because she is a moderate liberal who regularly gets pummeled by both the neo-con media and the progressive media. It's a shame the Occupy Movement has pigeonholed her as part of the establishment.

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[-] 0 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

You don't understand. This is not Occupiers Occupying the democratic party to bring it to sanity; this is Pro-Obama "tea party" style nonsense, a co-option of Occupy without any of its actual principles. There is no possible way to be pro-Obama and with Occupy, unless you truly stand utterly ignorant of Obama's actions for Wall Street and corporations and the ultra-rich such as his sugar momma Penny Pritzker.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

A quick review of the website, doesn't show ANY of what you are saying.

The teabagge(R)s are a Koch brothers entity.

There could be no comparison.

[-] 1 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

Their facebook page description is quoted in my original post:

"Political Organization Occupy Democrats, a merger of the goals and interests of Occupy with those of President Obama's "new" Democratic Party, is a new and growing grassroots political organization/news website: www.occupydemocrats.com"

Right here:

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

If such a "merger" strikes fear in your heart?

Stick with this place.

http://www.occupy.com/

They don't mind bitching about Obama.

[-] -1 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

How can you possible be with "Occupy WALL STREET" and ignore Obama's pandering and empowerment of Wall Street? The secret TPP he's working on fast-tracking? 7,000+ Occupiers arrested on Obama's watch?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

You didn't care for that web site either?

Which one do you approve of?

[-] -1 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

I approve of people who do not willfully ignore Obama's corporate crimes against the people of this country. Those who do willfully ignore Obama's corporate crimes against the people of this country, are part of the problem as well. Do not change the subject from Obama's crimes with straw man arguments. (Just because I WILL call Obama's crimes to attention does not mean I do not also condemn republicans, and in refusing to support democrats who ignore Obama's crimes and Wall Street enabling against republican crimes, does not make me for republicans either.)

A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[3] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having denied a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet inequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to deny it, without ever having actually denied the original position.[3][4] This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged, emotional issues. In those cases the false victory is often loudly or conspicuously celebrated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

You like wikipedia??

Then why are you here?

You could be helping Sarah Palin edit it.

[-] 0 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

Should have expected this sort of nonsense, even here. All you are doing is getting personal and always changing the subject from my original post and never actually addressing the legitimate concern.

Stratfor Leaked Documents: Divide-And-Conquer Strategies Against Activists

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/01/1266507/-Stratford-Leaked-Documents-Divide-And-Conquer-Strategies-Against-Activists

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 6 months ago

I agree with you, Mike. The entire concept of merging the "goals and interests of Occupy with those of President Obama's "new" Democratic Party" is ludicrous. Probably an astroturf organization set up by the DNC to capitalize on the Occupy brand and get back some of their lost members.

And, what the hell is "Obama's new Democratic Party?"

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[-] -1 points by go4broke (120) 6 months ago

"Obama's new Democratic Party" is just a euphemism that takes the place of 'Change We Can Believe In,' which of course was a lot of bullshit.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6287) from St Louis, MO 6 months ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the new Democratic party will be a lot like the old Democratic party.

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[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

So that's what you're up to?

Why else would you come here to BITCH about another site?

Dipshit.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

So you think coming here to BITCH about some other web site isn't dipshitery?

I beg to differ.

It is a VERY dipshit thing to do.

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[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19979) 6 months ago

The problem with 'Trashy' is his duplicity and deep anti-forum activities ever since he was ousted or rather prevented from infiltrating the forum from back in the days in the park. He never quite got over being rumbled as a probable agent-provocateur and having his few lines of code rejected by jart.

Lest we, you and he (lolol) forget - 'T' has defaced posts ; written and unleashed bots ; usurped existing posters' monikers (eg TIOUISE) ; signed off as other posters {eg.Odin} ; hounded posters straight off the forum [Proteus] ; embedded links to the FBI homepage is faux-posts ; engaged in driving mods up the wall - thereby giving rise to the serious-mod-anxieties ; tried to usurp this forum ; tried to co-opt others posters ; used wedge-issues like Black-Bloc / Anarchy / Conspiracy Theory ; tried to implant useless memes like 'Bridge To The Ground' - <whereas bridge to the base of his coccyx from the point of my boot would have been better> ; tried to bully posters ; tried to neuter this forum, etc. Etc. ETC.

He revels in bringing the worst out in twitchy mods and other posters and so being coincidentally right like a broken clock counts for squat. Dem co-option was NEVER a mystery or improbability here on this forum and those posters with an eYe on The 99% never let that get in the way of that which needs to be done. 'Peake' here was / is doing just fine. So stay the fk out of it 'TrashyTroll', you : 'Concern Troll' ~ http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll & if it's real 99% issues that you're looking for, try :

temet nosce ...

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[-] 0 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

I'm aware that the Koch brothers co-created the "tea party" alongside big tobacco. It is a metaphor; "Occupying" for Obama is exactly like what the "tea party" do for the Kochs.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

If there's an accurate comparison?

Where's the billions of support dollars?

Where's the SPN?

Where's ALEC?

there's no comparison.

[-] 0 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

Seriously? I mean, seriously?

Alan Grayson: TPP Secret Treaty “This Hands Sovereignty of Our Country Over to Corp Interests"

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/first-congress-member-allowed-to-read-secret-treaty-says-there-is-no-national-security-purpose-in-keeping-this-text-secret-this-agreement-hands-the-sovereignty-of-our-country-over-t.html

Corporate Profits Have Grown By 171 Percent Under Obama -- Highest Rate Since 1900 http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/corporate-profits-have-grown-171-percent-under-obama-highest-rate-1900

"Average annual corporate profit growth under Obama is the highest since 1900, whereas profit growth declined during both Bush presidencies. As a share of the economy, corporate profits have never been higher. Unfortunately, this profit deluge has not been shared by workers, whose wages as a percentage of the economy have fallen to all-time lows. Workers also got dinged by the recent increase in the payroll tax, which was large enough to wipe out a minimum wage increase in some states."

8 Huge Corporate Handouts in the Fiscal Cliff Bill http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/8-huge-corporate-handouts-fiscal-cliff-bill

"Throughout the months of November and December, a steady stream of corporate CEOs flowed in and out of the White House to discuss the impending fiscal cliff. Many of them, such as Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs, would then publicly come out and talk about how modest increases of tax rates on the wealthy were reasonable in order to deal with the deficit problem. What wasn’t mentioned is what these leaders wanted, which is what’s known as “tax extenders”, or roughly $205B of tax breaks for corporations. With such a banal name, and boring and difficult to read line items in the bill, few political operatives have bothered to pay attention to this part of the bill. But it is critical to understanding what is going on.

5) Subsidies for Goldman Sachs Headquarters – Sec. 328 extends 'tax exempt financing for York Liberty Zone,' which was a program to provide post-9/11 recovery funds. Rather than going to small businesses affected, however, this was, according to Bloomberg, 'little more than a subsidy for fancy Manhattan apartments and office towers for Goldman Sachs and Bank of America Corp.' Michael Bloomberg himself actually thought the program was excessive, so that’s saying something. According to David Cay Johnston’s The Fine Print, Goldman got $1.6 billion in tax free financing for its new massive headquarters through Liberty Bonds."

The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouchables-wall-street-prosecutions-obama

Yes, Virginia, the Rich Continue to Get Richer: the Top 1% Got 121% of Income Gains Since 2009 http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/yes-virginia-the-rich-continue-to-get-richer-the-1-got-121-of-income-gains-since-2009.html

U.S. banks in 2012 post highest profits since '06 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/us-usa-fdic-earnings-idUSBRE91P0N820130226?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=de8376aab3-DD_2_27_132_27_2013&utm_medium=email#.US5jjkXSlU8.twitter

This Year’s Subsidy to Wall Street = the Amount of This Year’s Sequester Cuts http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/02/this-years-subsidy-to-wall-street-the-amount-of-this-years-sequester-cuts.html#.US_yiFwwnHY.facebook

Don’t Blink, or You’ll Miss Another Bailout http://www.cnbc.com/id/100466032

America faces more than a dozen deadlines, all caused by billionaires and wealth transfer http://americablog.com/2013/02/america-faces-more-than-a-dozen-deadlines-all-caused-by-billionaires-and-wealth-transfer.html

Bank Bailout 2: Obama Lets Mortgage Abusers Off the Hook http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/02/09-5

US banks earn record $42.2B in 2nd quarter (2013) http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-banks-earn-record-422b-2nd-quarter

“Fiscal Cliff” Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of Bush Tax Cuts http://www.offthechartsblog.org/fiscal-cliff-deal-makes-permanent-82-percent-of-bush-tax-cuts/

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

You're changing the subject, and ignoring the questions..

Are you aware of what's happening in the States?

Are you aware of the activities of the GOP, in those States?

I don't see a single mention.

[-] -1 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

You are completely and utterly ignoring Obama's actions supporting Wall Street, against which Occupy stands. It's in Occupy's name, see? OCCUPY WALL STREET. Wall Street = bad. Supporters of Wall Street = bad. Obama supports Wall Street = bad. There is zero room for argument, so Obamabots ALWAYS change the subject away from Obama's utter malfeasance. Screw the Republicans, but double-screw democrats who willfully ignore Obama's Wall Street empowerment, and Hillary's as well!

[-] 0 points by Peake (10) 6 months ago

Perhaps you should post in a thread specific to your state-level interests so people who wish to read about an organization calling itself "Occupy" yet support Obama's pro-corporate and pro-Wall Street policies can do so? That's what this post is about, a co-opting by people utterly unclear on the subject.

Yes, it is imperative to change the states. You however have taken this post far off-topic from the co-option of the term Occupy by pro-Wall Street entities. Why?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

Please take your concern trolling elsewhere.

In fact, you could and should be doing your pointless BITCHING at the site you came here to BITCH about.

The better question is.

Why the FUCK didn't you in the first place?

You posted it, for the express purpose of concern trolling.

I just posted thread on Wallstreet the other day.

You ignored it.

No.

this is pure 100% concern trolling, with a heavy dose of baiting.

Bite it your damn self.

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[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

Perhaps you should start an occupy(R)eplican'ts affinity group?

Lord knows, they're in bad need of an occupation.

Are you one of those that refuses to look at the many States?

I would suggest, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin to get a feel for what's really happening.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 6 months ago

do republicas already auto-climatically oppose occupy ?

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 months ago

You'd have to ask one, but few will admit they are, around here.

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