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Forum Post: NSA Spying "Almost Orwellian"

Posted 4 years ago on Dec. 21, 2013, 7:03 a.m. EST by AlwaysIntoSomething (42)
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Show me what a police state looks like! THIS is what a police state looks like!




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[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 4 years ago

And where were you in 2002!?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

It doesn't really matter.

Your data will still be recorded and sold to the highest bidder.

It's what libe(R)topia is all about.


[-] 1 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago

How do you think insurance companies protect their profits, ha? Performance (of the people) monitoring.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Anything anywhere, entered into any kind of data base, is up for grabs and that goes WAY beyond insurance corporations.

In fact?

They do far less than any marketing/PR firm.

They will sell it to anyone with cash, governments included, although they might trade them for the information, that they too have gleaned.

Privacy died a while ago.

The NSA, the KBG, MI5/6 and their ilk all over the Planet are just taking advantage of what's already been done before, they just do it with further impunity.

Let's hope that they curtail at least some of it.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago

The insurance companies dealt with much more valuable information that can really ruin someone's life but performance monitoring occurs at work, on the internet, on the smart or not-so-smart phones, on the street cameras, security, speed, or otherwise, at most if not all shops, on CCTVs, at cash registers, at e-card swipers, at RFID proximity scanners, at the libraries, in the bookstores, at home routers, on laptops, on smart TVs, at ATMs, at banks, and on and on.

Facial recognition algorithm breakthroughs, nanotechnology, biotechnology, big data computing, will soon allow ubiquitous sensing, fast analysis, and even fatal executions. Everything can come "alive" in a potentially most frightening way. Your water, food, medicine, etc. can all kill you. Your clothings can talk. Nearly nothing can escape the knowledge of a determined and capable cyber-operator.

The only hope is for people to understand a lot more about what is coming at us fast and harness the people's will to that. Remember that the future IS now!

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

The future?

Well, the future's not here yet!

Just wait until tomorrow!

All information, yearns to be free.

Both monetarily and ideologically.

By that I do mean ALL information.

Indeed, it may be the only means we have left to evolve.

Free Ms. Manning and bring Snowden home.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago

Diffusion of information IS the ONLY and supreme law of our universe, all other laws being derivatives. It is not the only means that we have to evolve. The other way is slowed-down diffusion of information protecting privacy but not dubious "security."

Ms. Manning and Snowden contributed to our national and international discourse. I do not see much really damaging information that people reading between the lines would not have inferred. Of course, they certainly lent credibility to the conjectures greatly and so should be thanked for bringing the matters to the proper attention of the world's peoples.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

All information, yearns to be free.

All of it, bar none.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago


[-] 1 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago

Could Michael Hastings' fiery death on a runaway motorcycle reveal the workings of the secret police?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 4 years ago

private police ?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5153) 4 years ago

Great point! It is a possibility, too.

[-] -3 points by sundae (-40) 4 years ago

When only the police have guns, it's called a police state.

[-] -3 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 4 years ago

The fascist state continues.

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[-] -1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 4 years ago

For a laugh, check this out:


There might be a glitch after the commercial, so you might have to pause it and back it up, but it's worthy. There's also a couple subtle jokes in the names and job titles of the two spokesmen.