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Forum Post: North Korea - Nuclear threat - Real? or Propaganda?

Posted 1 year ago on April 4, 2013, 6:34 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Does it matter?

They have a missile range that puts South Korea completely in the cross hairs as well as Japan.

SO????

This should not cause a war - NOPE - no reason it should.

WHY?

Well because of the FACT that every launch facility/capability is KNOWN

SO WHAT ???

Take out every missile launch capable site. We HAVE that technology/capability.

So - no reason to declare or carry-out a war. Just destroy their launch sites/capability.

PERIOD

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[-] 6 points by WSmith (2033) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Hostage Crisis North Korean style: Coercion, Ransom Demand, Federal Aid.

Hostage Crisis 1%-RepubliCon style: Coercion, Ransom Demand, Federal Aid.

The differences are: North Korea threatens fewer lives, demands a smaller ransom, does it less often and is less likely to go through with the threat.

Our real enemy is within.

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[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

Ditto ZD! Fuckin beautiful analogy!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha . . . . !

Thanks!!!!!!

[-] 3 points by WSmith (2033) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Let's address the enemy within!!

Isn't it about time??

[+] -4 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

What this one person allegedly said was also perfect MSM cover to not pay attention to the destruction of our food supply forever.

You cant take an entire population of people and inbreed them, and then expect anything in the future to be what it was before.

That is exactly what is happening now, and now the people doing it are above the law.

Population control.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2033) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

You must be out of sidewalk chalk.

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Hey ZD - thanks for the input.

Do you see anything wrong with destroying launch facilities - when nuclear attacks have been approved by a government?

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes considering their ( North Korea ) million man army - taking out their nuclear weapon launch capability - should still be the #1 priority.

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Launch facilities known - mobile launch facilities known. Would be quite a failure of satellite surveillance ( at least one Geo-stationary at that location ) to miss proper date/time locations for a single strike.

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[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

what exactly do you expect to do about the chinese when in the words of the chinese defense minister the north korean military and chinese military are "as close as teeth and gums" or something to that effect? i mean i know we are going to go to war with them at some point but are we ready now?

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

No, we do NOT necessarily have to go to war with China/North Korea. North Korea is a self-imploding country if China does not prop it up. The U.S. can trigger the self implosion, too, but let us all hope that it will never happen for the sake of humanity. The U.S. had been monitoring the problem of North Korea's missiles and nuclear program for many years so we are likely to be ready and well prepared.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

wrong the whole north korean doctrine is self reliance. which is why they have no real infrastructure. if they wanted they could get help from china but that is not their way.

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

NO country is truly self reliant. North Korea demonstrated again and again that it could not even feed its own people. China turning off its oil spigot to North Korea got its attention. Just imagine what would happen if the U.S. destroyed China's oil infrastructures for good (or at least until they could be rebuilt and I assure you that the U.S. could shut it down again and again till the cold winter climate of North Korea claims its human toll). If the Chinese retaliated against the U.S., it would be a great opportunity to settle the Cold-War scores for a good few centuries at least.

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[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

More "shock and awe"?

That would also mean millions of hungry Nth Koreans for the west to feed.

Sanctions are already in place, I believe.

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[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

But it would involve the usual installation of some form of demockeracy.

Wouldn't be wise to wreak havoc and leave a power vacuum.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Query: What is worse?

Leaving nuclear missile launch sites untouched after they have been stated to have a launch OK ( imperative )? Or Take out those sites?

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

We ( the USA ) are not at risk - except for the people we have in South Korea or Japan. What we ( the USA ) are tied to - "IS" our defense agreement of SK & Japan.

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

perhaps it is best to let the Chinese take that message for us.

Absolutely - they do not want a nuclear confrontation/war.

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[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

NK is acting out (by habit) because in the last 20 years they have gotten deals (food/energy) if they would stop misbehaving. Kim Un is also trying to consolidate power. THAT is very concerning.

Admin has said they will not reward bad behavior. I'm ok with that.

Personally I think China should be dealing with that fuckin lunatic. I also think this will not escalate,but I have no good reason to believe that other than it is my preference.

We'll see.

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I'm not doubting that they have these launch sites.

Without doing some research on this, I have to hear what others think.

My doubts are that they have nuke capability. Weren't their recent tests shown to be regular explosives only?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Their recent tests were of rocket capability - not nuclear warhead - and the rocket capability so far shows a range of around 1000 miles.

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Just read an interesting article. This is the first paragraph.

Key aspects of North Korea's third nuclear weapon test, carried out on Tuesday, remain unknown. We do not know whether it was a test of a plutonium or highly enriched uranium weapon, though many experts suspect the latter. We also do not know whether this weapon was a primitive design or miniaturized to fit on a ballistic missile (though North Korea has claimed the latter). Given the relative seismic readings, this test likely had about 2.5 times the weapon yield of North Korea's second test, which according to Dr. Sieg Hecker of Stanford was in the range of 2 to 7 kilotons, putting this test at about 5 to 18 kilotons.

http://www.rand.org/blog/2013/02/north-koreas-third-nuclear-test-a-sign-of-weakness.html

Is Japan on any kind of war footing over these threats?

I'm just a bit dubious about the whole war scenario. Iraq, Libya, Syria, we've been told a heap of BS about them. I'm still not sure what we are doing in Afghanistan, when Pakistan is where all the drone strikes seem to be taking place.

Call me jaded, but the boy has cried wolf many times now.

In the neo-liberal plans, Iran is next.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I take nothing distributed over the MSM at face value. All I am trying to say "is" if the threat were real - we have the capability to destroy those launch sites prior to their being used. Result? No need to go any further.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

How many artillery pieces are rated to launch a missile carrying a nuclear warhead? Do you not think that these would not be recognized and tracked?

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

If they ( N K ) went nuclear chemical or biological - they would basically have signed their own death warrant.

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[-] 3 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

In any case I suggest we agitate for de escalation

http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6357/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=13558

[-] 2 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

There is only very negligible risk to the U.S. homeland. China, Japan, and South Korea are a different matter altogether.

North Korea still lacks the guidance capability to strike the U.S. homeland with any real accuracy although it is possible that its missile(s) can hit the U.S. homeland but that will most likely be non-nuclear and only have the effect of detonating a big bomb in our own missile test ranges (i.e., a significant amount of damage in moonscape no-man's land -- hohum). Take a random stab at a map of the western U.S. -- it is NOT easy to strike a population center. Besides, if North Korea were to strike at the U.S. homeland, it would be quickly immobilized and decapitated as having been demonstrated more than once already in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Our defense agreements with Japan and South Korea ARE worrisome because what do we do if North Korea were to strike at our allies' population centers?

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Some risk but I'm of the mind NK will back down. Here's a decent analysis.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/04/04/1820111/dprk-threat/

[-] 2 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

I do not buy it. Kim Jung-Un is very inexperienced in knowing what it means to suffer because he was the 'prince'. He may think that it is a video game until it hits him but by that time we would all be very sorry indeed because it would be too late. Thinking himself being invulnerable could very well be his downfall unless he learns to handle Realpolitik schnell.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

I agree, he is young, inexperienced, and may well think he can't be hurt. I do not believe he thinks this is a video game, but probably sees this as gamesmanship that his father & grandfather both exploited successfully.

We cannot reward spoiled brat behavior. China should be dealing with him firmly. We should be ready to knock down as many missiles as possible.

Otherwise I can't say the best course.

Diplomacy, preparedness but no rewards!

[-] 2 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Yes, there is a time to live and there is a time to die. We are not at the time to die yet but it is surely coming. Let us all hope that it will be far later.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Ok. I'm with that. Later is my preference too.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

North Korea was just a cover for the Monsanto story.

The internet is ablaze about DC just giving the go ahead to ruin our food supply, forever.

The MSM is focused on something some freak in N Korea allegedly said.

One said something, the other DID something.

And the sheep get fooled again.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

north korea has a military that is trained as well as armed and equipped with modern armaments unlike iraq and afghanistan. not just that but china has a mutual defense treaty with north korea. still think that those missiles can't hit u.s. cities?

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Iraq under Saddam Hussein had a formidable and fairly modern military force. How else could Iraq behave as the 'Bully of the Middle East' if it did not have the military backing? Its neighbors would have laughed their teeth off if Iraq's military force were a joke.

Iraq under Saddam Hussein proved that it had the military force to fight Iran (a major regional power) to a stalemate, conquer Kuwait, and nearly invade Saudi Arabia. Yet it proved very vulnerable twice when the U.S. went against it in operation Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom.

Afghanistan did not have the strong military force but it has formidable terrains working against military operations. Yet the U.S. military proved versatile enough to force a regime change quickly.

China's treaty with North Korea is an historical legacy. I am sure that China is getting pretty fed up with the recalcitrant North Korea, too. Remember that China IS a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council and could have vetoed any and all of the sanctions imposed against North Korea. China had a long-enduring friendship with North Korea going against the U.S. but North Korea seemed to have given China the 'shove-it' treatment more recently. China can be tolerant and understanding but it does NOT have infinite patience to be betrayed or treated as a fool.

North Korea's missile(s) CAN hit U.S. cities but that is highly unlikely to happen within the next year or so. We still have some time to address the problem but we must deal with it head-on and forthrightly, remembering that the Cold-War scores have NOT been completely settled there yet even though we now have the new global power of Chimerica.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

you don't seem to fully grasp global politics at all. in addition you don't seem to grasp the reality on the ground in iraq and afghanistan vs. north korea or the complex historical elements involved with the russians, the chinese, the north koreans, and us/uk/un.

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

It will be the usual game of Russia being neutral, China backing up North Korea until we call its cards, North Korea doing its drunken threat dance till someone throws a bucket of icy water on it to put a total stop to its folly, and the U.S./U.K./U.N. talking, sanctioning, and saving North Korea until it reaches the brink of nuclear attack and Boom! there comes the resolve to tackle the Cold War relic!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Tim Rifat, an ex MI-5 agent, and PhD Chemist, claims that North Korea possesses an "ultimate defense" based on a form of cobalt which could induce severe radiation sickness on a global level, wiping out civilization.

His video discusses it quite in depth:

North Korea´s Ultimate Defense - By Tim Rifat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePKF-6ctfo

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

What a crock of shit.

Even a complete dork would realise that he's gonna be dead within a week releasing this.

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

If he is being attacked by America, he would be dead anyway. In such circumstances, wouldn't you want to take your enemy out with you?

[-] 0 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 1 year ago

Perhaps it is, but perhaps its not.

[-] 1 points by highlander12 (-8) 1 year ago

Ok. Flatten them to the ground.

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[-] 0 points by dominos (-1) 1 year ago

The world's biggest danger is the US army, not the Korean army. The US army kills thousands upon thousands of people each year. Clean up your own garden before you worry about the garden of others.

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[-] 0 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

Just print some dollars and pay them their price! lol

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yeah sure - your name should be flatulent acres. Don't light a match.

[-] 0 points by windyacres (1002) 1 year ago

Sorry, I was hoping you would think it was funny.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Not at all funny.

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Why would violence solve anything?

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Query

Would you rather blow up a nuclear launch facility - maybe taking several lives - OR - would you like to allow the launch facilities to launch - and take hundreds of thousands of lives ( millions? ) ?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Id rather that neither happen. If I had the choice of course.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

No violence is the best option - ALWAYS

BUT if it is a choice of several deaths as to several hundred thousand deaths - i choose to take the several.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

One death is a tragedy. 1 million deaths is a tragedy.

It doesnt matter how many people get killed, it is still wrong and will likely not fix a thing.

Violence is not only morally wrong, but extremely ineffective.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

You are looking at altruism as an answer. This is fine for altruistic individuals. This is not fine for governments that are gonna follow their program and damn thoughts of others.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

So why should the US lower themselves to level of North Korea just to deal with them?

If the US kills people it is the same as if North Korea had killed the same people.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I am not suggesting a nuclear strike against North Korea. I am suggesting a strike on their launch capabilities. Can you see and understand the difference????

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Violence is violence. Does it really matter to the dead guy how you kill him?

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I guess if you have a conscience, it might matter to you.

Oh, that's right; we're dealing with psychopaths and narcissists.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

They can be murders and rapists all they want, but that doesnt mean that also have to be.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

No more war. Pack em all up and lets go home. Let China and Japan deal with em, they are more than capable. IMO.

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

South Korea has the most at stake so help them help themselves is the most reasonable option in the longer term. South Korea would definitely show courage when its existence were to be called into question by North Korea.

Japan is still too scary for its neighbors to become armed again so let us keep doing only one thing at a time so some sanity can be preserved while problems are being solved.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Japan had to sign some pact at the end of WWII that means they can't build up any kind of offensive war machine again. That leaves them reliant upon their ally, the US of A.

China, of course, is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Welcome to the club, China! I thought I ran and the U.S. are the only countries stuck between I raq and Af ghan is tan while China profits!

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Propaganda.

Wouldn't this be easier if we just cut the shit and went to war with China instead of proxy wars and the killing of innocent people?

[-] 0 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Which countries were backing up North Vietnam so that Senator John McCain can never lift his arms up above his shoulders again? Hadn't General Douglas MacArthur once said, "I shall return."?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Your point?

[-] 0 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Sometimes time curls back on and revisits itself and that can afford a kind of cleansing of the skeletons in the closet.

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[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

That's quaint and comfy but, proxy wars are proxy wars and there is no nice and tidy way of justifying the killing of other humans.

[-] 0 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

It is true that there is no nice and tidy way but look at what is on the other side of the balance -- it is just another big pile of lousy and dirty mess! We are all condemned unless we enlighten ourselves but that seems very unlikely so the balance will tilt and the four horsemen shall ride again.

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[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

For what? What exactly is it that needs enlightenment?

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

For truly feeling what it is like 'walking in the other person's moccasins' and then act on the empathy and understanding of the connections attained. We are all products of memories from our ancestors and ancient times. We can choose to live under their spells or be enlightened that they are no more than memories which can be suppressed, sublimated, deleted, or substituted if we so wish.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Thanks for that great enlightening moment, gk. What else do you have?

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

Oh, hey, the thought dominatrix is back with her little lacky's. I wondered where you all were. Did you all have a little powow, a confab, a little coffee klatch? And was this the best you could come up with, trying to say that I am actually GRAPES?

Ha, ha, ha, he, he, he, ho, ho ho!!!!

[-] 1 points by gsw (2603) 1 year ago

Collaboration with GF... It can be done... Get our ideas harmonized and we can go forward another small step.

There shall be some common areas of agreement , neither believes in abolishing, as in alter or abolish.

What's some actions we can do locally as a group to get Ows believers runing for a government post. I imagine there's a filing fee,. ...here around $450, for an individual this might be prohibitive.

To file an initiative, the cost here is less, $5.00. That will raise awareness, but will to,require organiztion http://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/Initiative%20and%20Referenda%20Manual.pdf, coordination, wording and agreement on initiatives.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

Thank you gsw, I know your motives are honorable, but I also know collaberative, cognative disruption, when I see it. We should all have a PHD in that here by now.

Anyone who has seen Grapes' posts can see he goes intentionally way out of character here, on cue. It is a routine, a little Abbot and Costello act that insults the intelligence.

I can also see from the syntax of his silly attempts to act "crazy," that he used to post here under another name, I don't remember what, pretending to act "crazy" to discredit this movement.

Truth is, I don't care all that much, but all these see-through games do get tiresome.

Anyway, forget all this! Let's focus on issues, as you and many others have done so well.

I do have to go again, but thanks for your well intentioned effort towards harmony. I wish it were always possible:)

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Why yes, gsw, I am collaborating with a dick head. :/

If you are going to accuse me of collaborating, at least make it a smarter dickhead.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

Classic example of GF's arrogance. Didn't even bother to read gsw's post, in which he was defending her/ trying to reconcile. GF, you're just a flying, flaming, hit and run ego tripper. . .

"I'm in with the movers and shakers - can't be bothered with the opinon of one 'stupid, little, humble,' member of the 99%. Got bigger fish to fry - yada, yada, yada."

I've seen this attitude all my life - and it fucking SUCKS!

""""""LOOK AT ME - LOOK AT ME!!!!""""""

gsw is the real article, and your obscene dismissal of him without even bothering to read his post says it all about you.

Who the fuck do you think you are to sit in judgement of everyone here ? Who you present youself as here simply has no bearing on who you really are! Words can't ultimately hide the nature of the soul. You are arrogant, entitled, condescending, over-privilidged, vulgar, manipuating and obscene.

Fuck You GF. Just Fuck You.

There will be no more well meaning apologies to you from me. You can be assurred of that - and if I were you, I'd steer clear of me on this forum in the future. That is a warning.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You are such a piece of fucking shit. You always were. You're a multiple ID douche-bag that skips in under this ID makes a faux cry and skips right out with a huge drama fest over leaving. Then you send a bunch of pretentious pms. There were never any meaningful apologies from you.

You and your bullshit you are free to hate me now

Get this---I was always free to hate you, jack ass.

There is nothing to sit in judgement about, hon. You just don't like it when the truth comes out. As a rule, I steer clear of you unless you decide to pop your head over to say something completely disingenuous and be a general prick. Don't fucking threaten me ass hole. Either bring your shit on or sit down and shut the fuck up. Fuck you and your warning.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

The Thought Dominatrix? I almost like that. It has a certain black leather appeal.

No. Not the best. I figure that since you have more than one ID and you have been posting recently because you obviously cannot stay away then it may as well be you. If not, why miss the opportunity to .............smack you.

[-] 1 points by grapes (2740) 1 year ago

Everyone was endowed with the faculty of understanding but it takes effort to uncover and exercise it to improve our judgment which will forever fall short but will nonetheless be always improved.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

What, you all disappeared again? Gotta go somewhere and try to figure out yet another angle???

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 1 year ago

Collaberation a little here - what? Trying to make me look rediculous while at the same time confusing my identity?

Come on GF, you like to put others in the hotseat. What's the two of you's little game here?

Fuck it, you aren't worth the bother.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I have one id, jack ass. You have multiples.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I think I would rather see the end of every stinking insane government.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Seems like an awful lot of bs to keep playing this game. Running out of viable threats.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Time and Long Past Time to end the endless war BS.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I agree.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The really sad thing is - that we have the technology to end strife over water resources and over power resources - we have the knowledge to raise up Dr.s and clean/green tech engineers and land conservationist farmers. We can stop polluting the planet with fossil fuel extraction and use.

Except for the fact of the insanity of those in positions of power to continue on as they are.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

'Cept there is money in it.

That's why I said, lets skip the shit.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Money in Death - unfortunately - True.

Insane assholes.

There is money in Life - Healthy Money.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I agree with that. But, apparently the money in death is greater or they just won't get their cut.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

They should get cut alright.

But, apparently the money in death is greater or they just won't get their cut.

Or is it just easier to Destroy then to Build?

Or is it a matter of Destroy 1st - to then sell Re-building materials afterword?

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Getting chased off of your land by a corpoRATion/business is nothing new. This happens when governments can be bought.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Yep and with the help of the UN. The problem that I have is that there is seemingly no accountability with the corporations.

But, but, but...........the government let me. So...............basically none of these bitches has a shred of decency in them.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

basically none of these bitches has a shred of decency in them.

Nope None - not in the USA - Not in any other part of the World.

[-] -1 points by dominos (-1) 1 year ago

Unbelievable how Americans can be simple minded. Yes, let's not start a war, let's simply destroy their launching pads. Doh! Wait, that would start a war! What do you think would happen if a country would destroy America's launching pads (it has the most in the world). You don't think it would piss you guys off? Where do you live? In some kind of fantasy land?

Start by getting rid of your own nukes American boy. Then we'll have something to talk about. You ain't the world's police.

[-] -1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 1 year ago

This only applies to the propaganda part, but just watched most of it: http://sprword.com/videos/psywar/

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (27542) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago