Forum Post: My taxes are too damn high! End The Wars!
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 3, 2011, 7:19 p.m. EST by definitelyNOTtheMan
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Salutations fellow Revelers!
Am I the only one who thinks that their income tax is too high? 35%? THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT. What kind of shit is that man? I think we can save some money by:
1: End the Wars 2: Legalize and tax Marijuana
- Randomly selected forced mass sterilization.
- The Resulting savings from idea #3 be used to provide free college for everyone (which is a human right)
Any other suggestions/criticisms to this?
Yikes! I was with you until you got violent in your demands. Forced mass sterilization is an awful idea.
I guess that it fits in with those who want government to use violence to redistribute wealth.
How do you get away with paying only 35%? Are you including all taxes?
In total, I pay about 45% of my income in taxes. This includes federal income tax, state income tax, social insecurity tax, property taxes, medicare/medicaid taxes, and state sales taxes. This doesn't include the higher cost of goods due to all the taxes that the producers and importers of goods pay.
Redgar,
No Sir, I was only talking about the Federal income tax. I too pay upwards of 45% in taxes.
I do not feel that the sterilization need be violent. For instance make it mandatory to be 'innoculated' to watch shows such as "Jersey Shore" or "Keeping up with the Kardashians". Also, make watching those shows mandatory in certain viewing areas.
i still think you're wrong as hell, but you get points for making it funny.
point 3....... um WHAT?!?!?!?!
This man is right.... we can't go on living like this we need to see the error in our ways people... the problem isn't the government... its the people in which number 3 is about ... we let the children of the people who should have been mass sterilized into office... go now children... spread the word of this prophet!
I see what you have done here, philistine. I don't like it one bit.
Commas are your friend. Use them.
Interesting philosophy you bring up about commas. However what is a comma really? Is it merely a space with a small crack, or a spec of dirt on my computer screen... the world may never know.
You don't have a side business and file long form along with a Schedule C?
Do you love giving them 35% for them to mismanage?
You may as well try it and see what you can or cannot make happen with that 35%.
FrogWithWings,
I can't really itemize any deductions due to the discretion needed in my profession.
Keep paying then. Don't start a hobby type side business. Don't file long form and profit/loss based upon it. It has nothing to do with your profession.
1.Ok, fine. End the wars. There are radical Islamist that hate the USA and all of it's occupants because we are not an Islamic nation. It's always going to be that way. Terrorism can be fought more efficiently from within our own borders.
2.Your toaster broke. You love toast. Store #1 has a top-of-the-line toaster for $50. Store #2 has the exact same toaster for $25.
Problem: Which toaster do you buy?
Answer: The cheaper one.
Reason: Because you have bills to pay.
If marijuana is taxed, it will be vastly more expensive than street weed. If you can find a way to make it cheaper, then let's do it. I think you'll find, however, that it's almost impossible to do. The only way to stop the flow of blood-drugs from Mexico is to completely close the border to everyone, and that's a pretty crappy strategy. Nobody wants that.
3.If you are okay with handing the control of your genitals over to a group of strangers, look to Craigslist, not Washington. This will never happen in America. Talk about a human rights violation.
4.High quality goods and services are too expensive to produce to turn around and give away for free. In order for a product or service to be free, it has to be low quality. The public school system in this country is in the toilet. It's free. People travel from all corners of the globe to be educated in American Universities because of the quality of education that they provide. College is not free. Draw your own conclusions from that.
I'd be really interested to know how free college is a natural human right. Can you elaborate?
If the corporatocracy is going to make us work wage slave jobs until we are 70 then the least they can do is pay for my liberal arts degree. I don't think that is unreasonable.
Nobody made you go to college or get a corporate job. Just because you need a degree to do certain jobs does not make it a natural right. The most basic human condition does not involve you working a job that requires a college degree, so I fail to see how a college education is a basic human right.
My grandfather worked until he was 80. He was a carpenter. He never went to a day of high school in his life.
I elected to pay $200,000 for a liberal arts education. Nobody made me go to college. Nobody made me go to an expensive, elite, private college. If you can't pay for it, don't go. If it seems unreasonable to pay for it, consider the same situation under different terms: is it unreasonable to pay for a car? Everybody needs transportation! Not everybody has a schedule that can be accommodated by the bus schedule! Not everyone lives in an area that has reliable public transportation. Therefore, some people need a car. And, because some people have to have cars to do what they do, everyone should have a car. Because it could be seen as a necessity for some, it should be free for all.
College is a product. It is a good, a service, a product that you buy. If you don't want to buy it, don't. Nobody made you buy that fucking Kia Rio, but you chose to buy it. Was it a good investment? Maybe, it sure saves you a lot of time and hassle compared to riding the bus to work everyday. But the reality persists. You could get to work on the city bus. You could walk to work. You could buy a bicycle. You could change jobs so that you don't even have to commute.
I hope you followed my analogy.
And, if you don't want to work for a wage, then don't. Nobody will be upset. We, as a community, do not need you to contribute to our great society to your greatest ability, comrade. However, if you enjoy comfort, you will work. That's how it works... everywhere.
"2. legalize and tax marijuana"
sure, find another way to steal our money! noooo thank you. <3 the counter-economy! stop asking permission. stop FUNDING the wars, including the war being waged on us -- we apparently haven't even the freedom to grow vegetables in our own yards, collect the rainwater that falls on our property, walk on the street with a colostomy bag under our shirt, sell lemonade, etc etc. i'm tired of the govt acting like i gave them my permission to pay unaccountable thugs to ABUSE peaceful citizens. 'legalize' no peaceful act. just give yourself permission.
sterilization omfg! nowai.
but i'm definitely down with ending the wars!
5 - Abolish entitlements
This.
College is a human right? Are you joking?
No I am not joking, and judging by your FAR rightwing comment it's a safe bet that you aren't even carbon neutral.
College should be a human right, we should always have the ability to further our knowledge, however in MOST FIELDS that are worth anything to society, we label them careers, as opposed to jobs usually, require a degree... which comes from a college, which you have to pay for... yet, you can also just work with someone and study with someone who has experience, possibly more so experience in whatever field you're studying, than a professor at a college would. However some fields even if you get a better education, all that matters is the end that you paid this much money to a school, just to get a degree, so that the government will let you work in these fields.
3.
WWWWWWHATTTTT?!!!!!!!!
Too many babies, dawg.
You're either a troll or a moron. I'm guessing troll. This is your last feeding from me.
That's what they said about John Paul Jones, my friend.
I agreed with points one and two and think you're completely deluded into believing point number three. Psychotic even. Good day!
Psychotic? Who are you.. my psychiatrist? nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Good Day to you as well Sir.
I support 1 and 2. I strongly oppose 3. I'm ambivalent about 4 -- I believe access to education is a human right, but I do not believe that means that higher education must be free.
And, most importantly, NO, YOUR TAXES SHOULD BE HIGHER. YOU'RE RICH. PAY YOUR SHARE TO KEEP AMERICA GOING.
Higher education shouldn't nessicarily be free but we should have many more options than we do as far as expanding the mind, and being able to make a life out of what we learn, as well as learn what we want to learn. Which learning what we want to learn should be a human right, am I right?
I'm not sure what the problem you're trying to address is. In the US, the internet is uncensored, and it's development in the last two decades has made it extremely easy to learn what one wants to learn. In fact, the freedom to learn what one wants to learn has never been easier to put into practice than it is now. As for making a living out of this education, I'm not sure. I do believe that it is a human right to have access to an adequately paying job, but I don't believe that it's a human right to get any particular job. If I want to learn a lot about Meinongian ontology and go about doing so, does that mean I'm entitled to make a living off of this absurd and irrelevant theory? I don't think so. If I study something that interests me, that's great, but I need to develop knowledge and skills that interests others before I can expect to make a living out of it.
SisterRay,
You bring up some valid points, however I feel that 'fair taxes' would mean closing the loopholes and everyone paying the same % of their income as taxes. I believe that every American who can (re: not the extremely poor / destitute) should pay the same amount. Is this not fair? If so, why not?
I agree that closing loopholes is imperative, and I'm becoming convinced that a major overhaul of the tax code might be necessary. However, a flat-rate tax would amount to either a huge tax raise on the working classes or an even larger tax cut on the rich, either of which would be horribly unjust. The working classes are paying a larger share of the nation's tax burden than ever before, and they are receiving less and less for it. The rich are paying a smaller share of their income in taxes than they have in decades, and their profits are reaching ever higher records. That is why it would be unfair to further cut taxes on the rich now or to raise taxes on the working classes now.