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Forum Post: More Right Wing Posers

Posted 4 years ago on Dec. 20, 2013, 12:55 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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As though they don't already have enough, "charities" they can pretend to be a "giving" faction over, they now also have the Franklin Center, as way to feel not only "charitable", but in league with the "founders".

"The Franklin Center for Government & Public Integrity (through its Wisconsin Reporter and Watchdog.org websites) has aggressively attacked the government’s "John Doe" probe into possible campaign finance violations during Wisconsin's 2011 and 2012 recall elections. Its media outlets have also published new information about the apparent targets of the investigation, but they have omitted an important detail: Franklin Center has close ties to individuals and groups that may be caught up in the John Doe probe.

The only name associated with the investigation led by the Milwaukee County's District Attorney's office, Eric O'Keefe, helped launch the Franklin Center's operations in 2009, and his Sam Adams Alliance group provided the majority of its startup budget. O'Keefe has spoken publicly about being subpoenaed in his capacity as director of Wisconsin Club for Growth. Franklin Center's Director of Special Projects John Connors, and the Executive Assistant to the President Claire Milbrandt, also have close ties to a group reportedly involved in the probe. Its former Director of Operations and General Counsel, James Skyles, worked with another group active in the Wisconsin recalls.

Franklin Center's Wisconsin Reporter has written 16 stories so far that are highly critical of the anti-corruption probe and prosecutors (calling its series "Wisconsin's Secret War"), but these latest revelations raise questions about whether the outfit has a conflict of interest in its coverage.

"It does sound like a conflict-of-interest situation that minimally ought to be disclosed, whenever stories are written," said Robert Drechsel, Director of the Center for Journalism Ethics at the University of Wisconsin School of Journalism and Mass Communications. "Particularly if the reporting in question is being done by an entity that holds itself out as nonpartisan and as doing the same kind of journalistic work being done by any traditional journalism institution."



As if ALEC, the SPN and FLAKESnews are not enough.



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[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

I admit the convolutions of the ALEC/SPN, (R)eplican't network, can be confusing.

I think that's one their missions.

Read more carefully and you will begin to understand.

Of course, considering your deletions, one has to find your posts even less readable and certainly less understandable.

Did you put in for those jobs yet?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Must be, considering you deleted so many of your comments.

Were you aware that some of those very same posers, posted links to the Franklin Center, right here on the forum?

Or did that confuse you too?

[+] -5 points by boscosmom (-12) 4 years ago

I skimmed it and my initial reaction was blah,blah,blah shooz






[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

As I've said before, separating them from their money is their GREATEST fear.

In death, they would become martyrs.

Since so many here, don't believe "things" until it comes from "other" sources, I will provide one.


I wonder if Leo will post the whole thing?


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

This is just a cover up and a distraction for the FAILED libe(R)topian policies put in place in Wisconsin.

You wouldn't expect them to present the truth, would you?

The SPN is always there to sully it.


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Removal of their wealth, is perhaps their only real fear.

To them, it would be worse than imprisonment, or even death.

Nationalize all of the Koch's money.....................:)


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Are you kidding?

I get down voted, every time I mention them these days.

Poor, innocent libe(R)topian billionaires.


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

The trick, as you well know, is to convince the downvoters.

It's not like they EVER provide a reason for their behavior.

It's not like they ever comment on the behaviors of the Koch's.

It has to make you wonder. Who the fuck are they?


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

I believe they belong to the broader base of manipulated libe(R)topians.


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

In these days of advanced propaganda, paying them isn't necessary.

Just give them starry eyed views of liberty and freedom, and they will say what the Koch's want them to say. All while ignoring the realities of what the Koch's have said, done and are still doing.

Look at all those around here who find ways to minimize what ALEC has done and is doing.


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

I'm thinkin' it's those who have been banned, that return to push the same identical crap that got them banned in the first place.

The same old crap, with a shiny new name. Like they run themselves through PR.

There's nothing shiny about them.


[-] -2 points by revolutionman (-106) from Kentland, IN 4 years ago

The "trick" is community building. The first step is listening to the arguments of those you disagree with instead of trying to shut them down before they can even talk. Nothing good will happen in US until the right and left start finding common ground to fight against the 1%. People are still fighting against each other. Partisan politics is destroying America. This lame duopoly is killing us all.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

You have NO feel at all for community.

You should go back to pushing your usual conspiracy theories.

BTW: I actually have listened to all those lame, fucked up arguments.


Not so much.

[-] -2 points by revolutionman (-106) from Kentland, IN 4 years ago

I have no feeling for community? You know nothing about me.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Why don't you tell me?

All I know is you are a supporter of Ayn/Ron Paul style libe(R)topianism.

[+] -4 points by revolutionman (-106) from Kentland, IN 4 years ago

I support Ayn and Ron Paul? Where did you get that nonsense from? Maybe you should start listening instead of making stuff up about other people you know nothing about.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

It has everything to do with your promotion of Alex Jones characters.

You have NO feeling at for communities.

As a test, try cogent commentary on this community.



[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

Switching to a completely new form of trading device would be the ultimate leveller of the playing field.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Swapping "trading devices" won't do a thing about what they have already horded.

Nor will it effect the laws that they have already affected.

They are still moving ahead with great speed.

Poisoning minds, politics, countries, philosophy and the Planet.

Here's another reason why Michigan matters.


[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

So, when a new currency replaces the old one, the horders and hiders of their ill-gotten gains will just rock up to the exchange booth, and swap their millions and billions? No questions asked?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

I've provided an actual event for you to comment on and you give me conjecture?

You can buy a Tesla with bitcoin these days.

A whole lot of bitcoins.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

You mis-interpreted my initial post.

Money is a trading device.

You went somewhere off on a tangent.

Michigan is not relevant to anything other than what occurrs, when corruption reigns.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Asking for clarification and examples, isn't going off on a tangent.

Ignoring actual issues, on the other hand IS.

It's funny to me how community is always so promoted, until actual examples are provided. then you pretend it doesn't matter.

That's exactly the attitude that allows corruption to continue, unabated.


[-] -3 points by mikefrommichigan (-1) 4 years ago

I didn't understand this post. It's convoluted.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago


I'm sure then, that you will find this even more confusing.


The answer to your confusion lies within.

[+] -5 points by mikefrommichigan (-1) 4 years ago

Why are there so many deleted and removed comments here?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Talk to Matt.

He was confused too.

Did you follow the links?



[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Try this one then.

The "work" of libe(R)topians is always puposely convoluted.