Forum Post: Monsanto Thugs Likely Behind Bee Poisonings In Australia
Posted 10 years ago on June 22, 2013, 7:12 p.m. EST by Builder
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This is war, people. There simply aren't any bees visiting my vege garden. I'm hand pollinating my peas and strawbs, but we're heading for very bad times if these criminals aren't stopped in their tracks.
(quote) Beekeepers on the south coast have lost up to a thousand hives in a series of poison attacks.
South coast beekeepers are reeling from the senseless destruction of hundreds of hives across the region yesterday.
A toxic poison was sprayed into over 740 honey producing hives in the Batemans Bay area, decimating the local industry.
Police say the attacks on the region’s biggest producers caused an estimated $150,000 damage, but local producers say the poison will continue to destroy hives over coming weeks.(unquote)
http://decryptedmatrix.com/live/monsanto-thugs-likely-behind-bee-poisonings-in-australia/
Consider : "Silence of the Bees'' :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cU9ZunVl3o & also see ...
http://www.naturalnews.com/022376_bees_collapse_organic.html ;
http://www.naturalnews.com/035688_Monsanto_honey_bees_colony_collapse.html ;
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/environment/is-monsanto-killing-our-bees/ ;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2012/sep/18/bees-pesticides-neonicitinoids & ...
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/11462-monsanto-is-bad-for-the-bees-and-bad-for-us .
From last link : ''Too bad, the White House appointed the former Monsanto VP for public policy, Michael Taylor, as second in charge at the Food and Drug Administration ..... Bad For The Bees ; Bad For Us.'' !
Thanx for the important forum-post 'B' and good luck - to us ALL !!! Am strongly recommending the 'You-Tube' link !! Finally, the extensive stinkling on this thread should be noted, damned Corporate PR shills !
spero meliora ...
Thanks Shadz. Just sent those links out there again. Video is chilling.
Fyi, a 2009 WikiLeaks cable from the US embassy in the Holy See reports that “Vatican officials remain largely supportive of genetically modified crops as a vehicle for protecting the environment while feeding the hungry, but - at least for now - are unwilling to challenge bishops who disagree”. from :
That the primary purpose of GMOs is NOT in fact to safeguard the environment is suggested by, inter alia, a 2012 study by Washington State University research professor Dr Charles Benbrook, who found that the proliferation of such crops has caused increases in the use of hazardous pesticides in the US.
As for the claim that GMOs are a proper antidote to the problem of global hunger - it is actually worth reviewing renowned environmental activist Dr. Vandana Shiva's observation that “one billion people are without food because industrial monocultures robbed them of their livelihoods in agriculture and their food entitlements”. The following sound bite from Dr. Shiva's strong appearance last year on the BBC's 'HARDtalk' meanwhile obliterates the notion of any positive correlation between the GMO industry and human wellbeing:
"We see the consequences of [seed patenting] in India, where, since the big companies came in and took over the seed supply - especially in cotton - we have had 270,000 farmer suicides, most of them driven by debt and the debt caused by high-cost nonrenewable seeds." from :
Both of the important links and excerpts above, are taken from the following excellent article :
e tenebris, lux ...
I really do think you need to see this 'B' :
verb. sat. sap. ...
I'll probably get downvoted heavily for this, but yes, even in Oz the long fingers of ALEC come to roost.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Monsanto
Sorry if I seem repetitive, but here I go again.
Little can be done against the corporations criminally,
such as the banksters, the coal cave in owners, the oil spillers, or the bee killers
as long as the SCOTUS corporations are people [ citizens united ] stands
If we have the courage to vote for more progressives who will
support an amendment such as HJR29
[ details at OWS: http://corporationsarenotpeople.webuda.com we can then pass laws to hold the people hiding behind the
"corporate shield" as the criminals they are
More than 50,000 bees killed in Oregon, insecticide blamed in largest bee die-off in recorded history
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346864/More-50-000-bees-killed-Oregon-insecticide-blamed-largest-bee-die-recorded-history.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346864/More-50-000-bees-killed-Oregon-insecticide-blamed-largest-bee-die-recorded-history.html
People must know what corp(se)oRATions are doing to our environment. BTW - what effects do these poisons have on other forms of life - people being a form of life.
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oh christ. please don't start up with your bullshit again. this forum has been so nice to read without you trying to bully everyone. ↥twinkle ↧permalink
Don't play passive aggressive. I am 100% aggressive.
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Did i get banned?
I can see this comment, so apparently not.
How the hell would I know?
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slow poison residuals gather in the bee systems as hive were hauled field to field
More on all this.
http://listverse.com/2013/06/22/10-problems-genetically-modified-foods-are-already-causing/
"Insecticide gene" - You Know That THAT can not be good.
http://listverse.com/2013/06/22/10-problems-genetically-modified-foods-are-already-causing/
BTW - TWEET
Hi DKA, Excellent---Everyone needs to know of all this.
Thanks for posting it - and For sharing it out yourself ( as I know you did ). {:-])
yeah it's pretty bad ants are doing most of my pollinating.
See Also : Honeybees pollinate many of the nuts, fruits and vegetables we love. But beekeepers like me keep discovering our honeybees – whole hives of them – gone or dead.
This is no act of God. Our bees are being poisoned.
Scientists have linked a powerful class of pesticides called “neonics” to increases in bee die-offs. Due in part to these deadly toxic chemicals, 31% of hives in the United States collapsed this past winter alone.
Last month millions across Europe spoke up for the bees and pressured the European Union (EU) into imposing a two year ban on neonics, defeating the influential pesticide lobby. If we act together, we can convince the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to do the same.
Help us send 75K comments to the EPA by June 27th to save the bees that pollinate our crops and that visit your backyard.
Tell the EPA today to suspend the use of neonics on crops that bees pollinate.
Viruses, mites and malnutrition can all contribute to the collapse of a hive. But neonics pose a unique threat to bees. These poisons spread into the pollen and nectar of treated plants, slowly accumulating in the hive with each bee’s trip to a contaminated flower.
By allowing toxic chemicals like neonics to weaken and kill bees, we threaten our food and our environment.
The companies that make these pesticides, Bayer and Syngenta, have spent millions lobbying the United States and European governments that simply commissioning more studies – even while bee populations plummet – will somehow solve the problem.
Of course more studies are welcome, but action is needed now to prevent an agricultural catastrophe.
Tell the EPA to suspend use of neonic pesticides in order to save the bee population that we all depend on.
Trying to solve all agricultural problems with chemical additives is shortsighted and reckless. To ensure that we have safe and reliable food, we must strive for sustainable agriculture that works with nature, rather than manipulates and destroys it.
The elimination of bee-killing pesticides is major progress towards that goal. Every step that helps restore the balance between the natural world and the agricultural world is an important one.
For the bees,
Mark Floegel Greenpeace Senior Investigator and Beekeeper
P.S. Honeybees need our help. Pesticides from our crops are killing off their hives by the thousands. Tell the EPA to protect the bees and ban the pesticides responsible.
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So Consider: These poisons are getting into the HONEY - into our food chain. So it is not just killing Bees ( did I say JUST? ) - but these poisons are getting into US/PEOPLE - What do you think happens there (inside US/PEOPLE) ???
Hm, maybe that is why I only have 3 tomatoes. Wow. I thought it might be a nutrient problem.... My tomato plant is like 1 1/2 foot high now and looking scrawny. Probably I should feed it to make sure.
Tomatoes usually self-pollinate, with a slight breeze. If you are growing them indoors, a fan on the helps.
Thanx
Monsanto Bees?
http://www.naturalnews.com/035688_Monsanto_honey_bees_colony_collapse.html
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http://www.naturalnews.com/035688_Monsanto_honey_bees_colony_collapse.html
My question is what do they have to gain from killing off large numbers of bees.
They have been working on a "superbee" for quite some time. Removing any chance of natural pollination will increase demand for their crops, because only their superbee will pollinate their crops.
Brings up images of the mad scientist in action, right?
IT'S ALIVE
An 'act of war', a 'crime against humanity', a 'crime against all living things', and must all be dealt with as such.
Yes...Democide. We need a War Crimes Tribunal.
Hi Renneye,
Notice troll (Nevada10) on this thread.
Hey Nevada1, I've only peeked in a couple of times today, and have to head back out, but I've noticed the incessant down-voting of this thread. Is it occurring on other threads as well?
I focus on the GLOBAL picture... and bees, along with any harm that may come to them, are indeed, GLOBAL.
Pretty creepy though, using someone else's moniker.
Peace and calm to all...even the down-voter(s)
Hey Renneye, Some down-voting here----have not checked other threads.
Yes, a War Crimes Tribunal.
Did you see the moon last night? SO big and bright.
Moon: "as full and bright as I am, this light is not my own"
I sure did. Gorgeous night. In the wee hours, I laid on the cool grass looking up at it, with thunder rumbling far off in the distance. Had my neighbors seen, they'd have thought me a 'luna-tic'.
Though I'm not religious, there I prayed to the universe, for fairness and enlightenment to be shared with all of humanity, and hoped others were enjoying the vision in the sky.
Our moon belongs to everyone...yet no-one.
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"Suddenly, in the sky at dawn, a moon appeared,
Descended from the sky
Turned its burning gaze on me,
Like a hawk during the hunt seizing a bird,
Grabbed me and flew with me high into heaven.
When I looked at myself, I could not see myself
For in this moon, my body, by grace, had become soul."
~ Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Rumi
Nice Rumi, RE. Reminds me of Zen. But maybe more stark and soulful.
Democide
A term people really need to get familiar with = insanity in government.
Your link mentions "Monsanto thugs" in its headline. There isn't anything mentioned about a possible connection to Monsanto, or motive, or any kind of evidence. Is there another article you can link to that offers any evidence at all that suggests Monsanto is involved?
There's no history of this kind of sabotage anywhere in the honey industry in Australia, MsStacy. There is a substantial history of misinformation and outright lying, connected to monsanto. Google blackwater/monsanto, and see for yourself.
I just don't see anyone presenting evidence or motive for killing the bees. Monsanto may lie and and do all sort of things, but the article doesn't make any actual connection between the poisoning and Monsanto.
There are plenty of articles on Monsanto's inadvertent killing of bees through the use of pesticides on plants, but the article you linked to is about an intentional poisoning.
In 510 BC, Spartan troops helped the Athenians overthrow their king, the tyrant Hippias, son of Peisistratos.
This is a Positive Story, an Optimistic Story, a story of Encouragement, a Story of Democracy.
Cleomenes I, king of Sparta, put in place a pro-Spartan oligarchy headed by Isagoras. But his rival Cleisthenes, with the support of the middle class and aided by democrats, managed to take over. Cleomenes intervened in 508 and 506 BC, but could not stop Cleisthenes, now supported by the Athenians. Through his reforms, the people endowed their city with isonomic institutions—i.e., ones that all have the same rights—and established ostracism.
The isonomic and isegoric[2] democracy was first organized into about 130 demes, which became the foundational civic element. The 10,000 citizens exercised their power via the assembly (the ekklesia, in Greek) of which they all were part, headed by a council of 500 citizens chosen at random.
The city's administrative geography was reworked, the goal being to have mixed political groups — not federated by local interests linked to the sea, to the city, or to farming — whose decisions (declaration of war, etc.) would depend on their geographical situation. Also, the territory of the city was divided into thirty trittyes as follows:
ten trittyes in the coastal "Paralie"
ten trittyes in "Asty", the urban centre
ten trittyes in rural "Mesogia".
A tribe consisted of three trittyes, taken at random, one from each of the three groups. Each tribe therefore always acted in the interest of all three sectors.
This is this corpus of reforms that would in the end allow the emergence of a wider democracy in the 460s and 450s BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Greece#Cleisthenes
This looks like the perfect string to post this comment. Thanks, Builder.
How stupid ARE human beings? I'm truly sorry, builder. This is serious stuff. Thanks for shining a light on it.
I'm getting a petition together to stop our local councils from using glyphosate (roundup) on playing fields and public areas. We have to act fast on this one. There simply aren't any bees anywhere, where once they were everywhere.
Hi Builder, Is this on MSM in Australia? Is high level government compliance suspected?
I've just had some family drama with a trip to hospital in the ambulance.
I'll check the news channels for this tonight, Nevada1
My sincere best wishes, Builder. I so hope, all goes well. Peace and healing be with you & yours.
Very sorry about your Step-Dad, and hoping for a fast recovery.
Hope it's nothing serious, B
Step-Dad has mesothelioma and succumbed to pneumonia today. He's in for obs overnite. Thanks for your concern, K.
I'm so sorry, Builder. Hang in there.
OH that sucks - I am sorry. Did he work with or around asbestos?
In the shipping industry, everyone worked around asbestos. I used to cut the stuff up on a benchsaw at the start of my working life. Most of the lung damage that step-dad has comes from using welding electrodes in a confined space. He's on oxy permanently now, and it's just a matter of time, I guess. The cold weather doesn't help.
DAMN - I am so sorry. I know that it does not help - not the individual who has been harmed by the asbestos exposure - but perhaps some support for their family as well as some help for health care expense - there is a class action lawsuit being advertised in the USA for mesothelioma victims - is there anything like that going on in the UK?
We're in the land of OZ.
James Hardie industries were responsible for most asbestos products here, and they've moved their operation base overseas to avoid future prosecutions. Proving that asbestos is the major contributor to lung degradation, when you've a life history of boilermaking and tobacco smoking, is kinda drawing the long bow in a court of law.
I thought that other then asbestos exposure that mesothelioma was quite rare - so work background/exposure would be much more significant in a diagnosis.
You can get silicosis and mesothelioma from silica ingestion. Most cases that could have been linked to a class action have been processed, or the victims are already dead. 70% of public buildings and schools are still either clad or lined with asbestos here. There are asbestos roofs, unsealed, right through suburbia built during that time.
OMG - we have been removing asbestos as well as leaded paint for decades now.
I would think a lung biopsy would reveal the contaminants.
I worked in a building with asbestos that they started to remove. The policy changed as they found out in the 1990s that removing the asbestos was riskier to the workforce than leaving it where it was.
I assume the plan was to remove the asbestos at some time in the future when major remodeling was done, but the problem is the ventilation system would hold asbestos dust for years if you did the remodeling work. Where else can asbestos dust hide in a building after the removal work produces the hazard???
Exactly why the building needs to be empty - the working crews need to be wearing hazmat suits with supplied air. And every square inch of the place needs to be washed and vacuumed ( wet vac ). It is cheaper to replace the air handling equipment and ducts then it is to try and clean em.
Both conditions result in scar-tissue continually forming within the lungs, eventually leading to more scar than lung.
I was under the impression that schools are being closed in many states of north America, and infrastructure in general is being left to disintegrate.
Yep to both - nothing to do with asbestos or leaded paint though.
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Besides - round-up is known to cause breast cancer - in everyone.
Give me a link to that. I'll need it in my post.
Here are a couple articles.
Study: Glyphosate (Roundup) Feeds Breast Cancer Cell Growth … dprogram.net/2013/...roundup-feeds-breast-cancer-cell-growth-in-the...
(GreenMedInfo) - An alarming new study finds that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup weedkiller, is estrogenic and drives breast cancer cell
News about Round-Up And Breast Cancer
bing.com/news
Toxic shock: California allows up to one thousand times more glyphosate in drinking water than needed to cause breast cancer in women - Natural News.com Toxic shock: California allows up to one thousand times more glyphosate in drinking water than needed to cause breast cancer in women Natural News.com·6 days ago
(NaturalNews) Late last week, a story broke that revealed glyphosate -- the chemical name of Roundup herbicide -- multiplies the proliferation of breast cancer…
Thanks DK. Some of that I already had, but not all. But let's not be too selective with your quotes or spread misleading information lest we get a visit from someone that knows their shit and they try to shoot you down. I think we should try to maintain a fairly high level of credibility, especially when it comes to a subject like GMOs. Besides, there's plenty to find wrong with Monsatan as it is.
Caution accepted.
What are your thoughts on:
"Insecticide gene" - You Know That THAT can not be good.
http://listverse.com/2013/06/22/10-problems-genetically-modified-foods-are-already-causing/
I just got done reading that link a few minutes ago. By "insecticide gene" I assume you're talking about BT, right? No, that is NOT good and is turning out to be as big, if not bigger, a problem than Roundup:
http://digitaljournal.com/article/326208
And here's how fucking insane these people are. Instead of stepping back and realizing there's a problem with the technology since simpler organisms mutate (evolve) much faster than humans, and therefore will probably ALWAYS mutate into resistant strains, the biotech companies decide to double-down and add a SECOND form of BT to the seed and produce strains that can withstand HIGHER concentrations of pesticides.
YEP - insects evolve rapidly ( some faster then others though - like ants ) - one birth cycle = subject to death by poison - next birth cycle not subject to death by that poison. People do not evolve anywhere near the speed of insects - and so those insects that survive the poison ( as well as those that don't ) - end up in our food chain and so the poisons they have eaten as they are eaten and those that eat them are eaten as well as those that don't get separated from the crops get processed into our food products "Flour" "Meat" "Fruit" "Veggies" - as well as the poisons are introduced directly into our food chain "not only by spraying crops" but "ALSO" because the crops are producing pesticides themselves through Genetic Engineering.
Consider ALSO these poisons do not stay in the fields - but they also get into the ground and so the ground water - the excess poisons also get washed away and so end up in lakes streams oceans etc.
Cultivating natural predators to insect pests is the thing that should be being done = non-poisonous.
"Cultivating natural predators to insect pests is the thing that should be being done = non-poisonous."
Exactly! And there's also increasing evidence that these poisons are building up in the soil, killing the beneficial microbes and in turn, killing the soil.
A growing massive chain reaction of DEATH.
FOLKS WE are not immune.
Chain reaction is true. Here's another good link to read when you get the time:
http://www.gmfreecymru.org/pivotal_papers/bee-losses-paper.html
Book marked.
Do people even consider - like with mutated ( gene engineered food like salmon ) - that the agent used to make the mutation possible is still present in the living creature?
Consider:
Are Genetically Engineered Salmon Next? Yes.
Companies are starting to work on getting the required approvals to sell the first genetically engineered fish for food. Genetically engineered salmon is being developed to grow to market size in half the time of natural salmon; 16 to 18 months instead of three years.
How is the salmon developed to grow faster? Well, one company is using a growth hormone gene from the Chinook salmon and adding the genetic switch (gene proteins and DNA sequences that the proteins recognize) from the ocean pout (an eel-like species) that results in the continuous production of the hormone. The company promotes the advantage of these genetically engineered salmon as being that they grow twice as fast, are safe to eat and not expected to have an impact on the environment.
http://www.organic-food-for-everyone.com/genetically-engineered-salmon.html
Above - just one article that hints at a possible carryover into the food chain ( US ). But what about other life that feeds on salmon? If the salmon were released ( accidentally? ).
" . . . are safe to eat and not expected to have an impact on the environment."
Man, they keep spouting the same corporate line every time, don't they?
That's part of the damn problem. They're finding out with GM crops that injecting partial DNA sequences into other organisms is causing unforeseen consequences, such as the production of unanticipated and unwanted proteins that might have negative effects.
But they don't give a damn as long as they profit financially.
(Quote) Ishii-Eiteman (senior scientist at PANNA, the Pesticide Action Network North America) says that the GE industry's solution to increased weed resistance to herbicides is to create new seeds, designed to be used with yet more herbicides. "From an industry perspective, herbicide resistance is simply planned obsolescence that provides an opportunity to market new or older pesticides, ad infinitum," she says. (unquote)
See how these fuckers think? When a problem arises somewhere down the road, it isn't really a "problem." It's a new "market opportunity."
And yes, those salmon WILL get into the open environment, they WILL breed with non-GM salmon, they WILL get eaten by predators further up the food chain.
I fully agree that what these people are doing is, in fact, global bio-terrorism.
All to own the market - which market ? - EVERY market - Safe??? - who the fuck cares as long as we are getting all of the money possible as the world dies.
F'n insane assholes.
Bees are like the salt of the earth. We need 'em, badly. Good work and good luck.
They are so damn evil. What the world needs is a superhero bent on seeing them all put to death by any means.
There is no worse crime I can think of. Rape and kill a thousand nuns, that's still not worse than what Monsanto has done and plans to do.
Killing a bee (with the mind of a sane, informed adult) should be 10 years in prison.
Amazing that any country would allow the destruction of their Bees. Well much of Europe has banned GE crops. Now if we could get them to look seriously at all of the other threats to life.
If bees are destroyed, we've got less than four years before we all starve to death, DK.
I think this is one we have to get onto pronto.
And so my support for all anti Monsatan actions as well as companies in similar operation. This is ( as you so correctly say ) no small deal - every bit as important as shutting down fossil fuel.
And more on a similar vein; class actions of the pre-emptive kind. Gotta play these criminals at their own game.
http://decryptedmatrix.com/live/farmers-and-seed-producers-launch-preemptive-strike-against-monsanto/
A copy of the lawsuit can be found at: (http://www.pubpat.org/assets/files/seed/OSGATA-v-Monsanto-Complaint.pdf)
The case, Organic Seed Growers & Trade Association, et al. v. Monsanto, was filed in federal district court in Manhattan and assigned to Judge Naomi Buchwald. Plaintiffs in the suit represent a broad array of family farmers, small businesses and organizations from within the organic agriculture community who are increasingly threatened by genetically modified seed contamination despite using their best efforts to avoid it. The plaintiff organizations have over 270,000 members, including thousands of certified organic family farmers.
“This case asks whether Monsanto has the right to sue organic farmers for patent infringement if Monsanto’s transgenic seed or pollen should land on their property,” said Dan Ravicher, PUBPAT’s Executive Director. “It seems quite perverse that an organic farmer contaminated by transgenic seed could be accused of patent infringement, but Monsanto has made such accusations before and is notorious for having sued hundreds of farmers for patent infringement, so we had to act to protect the interests of our clients.”
Once released into the environment, genetically modified seed can contaminate and destroy organic seed for the same crop. For example, soon after Monsanto introduced genetically modified seed for canola, organic canola became virtually impossible to grow as a result of contamination.
Excellent this is a MUST DO. Absolutely needed rolling jubilee type action anyone? Avaaz?
http://decryptedmatrix.com/live/farmers-and-seed-producers-launch-preemptive-strike-against-monsanto/
Farmers and Seed Producers Launch Preemptive Strike against Monsanto
Lawsuit Filed To Protect Themselves from Unfair Patent Enforcement on Genetically Modified Seed
Action Would Prohibit Biotechnology Giant from Suing Organic Farmers and Seed Growers If Innocently Contaminated by Roundup Ready Genes
NEW York: On behalf of 60 family farmers, seed businesses and organic agricultural organizations, the Public Patent Foundation (PUBPAT) filed suit today against Monsanto Company challenging the chemical giant’s patents on genetically modified seed. The organic plaintiffs were forced to sue preemptively to protect themselves from being accused of patent infringement should their crops ever become contaminated by Monsanto’s genetically modified seed.
Great stuff! Where can I sign to support?
It's a U.S. class action.
Check on the link I provided. And here.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035148_Monsanto_organic_farmers_petition.html
Thanks again!
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