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Forum Post: Major History Lie Clarified

Posted 1 year ago on July 10, 2013, 10:31 a.m. EST by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ
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[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5854) 1 year ago

Things are always being left out of taught history. After all, race-based slavery didn't begin with the English colonies, it had already existed in Portugal with Papal sanction decades before Colombus had gotten lost on his way to Japan.

And though the Confederacy may have fought to maintain slavery, the Union certainly didn't begin the war fighting to end it. The Proclamation of Emancipation had been used as a threat to end slavery only for those states that had chosen to retain their independence from the Union. It had no bearing on Union slave states, which as a consequence of being on the winning side, had slavery ended for them by legislation only after it had been forcibly brought to an end in the South. Thus, slavery had actually ended in the South before it had ended in the North. And even then, lethally racist riots against the draft had broken out in the North in opposition to the war. The headline of one Pennsylvania paper had read "Willing to fight for Uncle Sam but not for Uncle Sambo". A national report in 1860 is said to have indicated that probably no more than 2% of Northerners would have voted to abolish slavery. During the war, what should have been considered to have been people liberated from slavery were nevertheless legally regarded as being contraband.

Much is always being left out of taught history.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

True; so why teach it at all? It seems only to perpetuate dysfunctional attitudes.

[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5854) 1 year ago

Official history has never been taught to inform, only to indoctrinate.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

That's a great talk, Phanya. Divide-and-conquer, an age-old tactic. And as LeoYo says below, official history has never been taught to inform, only to indoctrinate. Consider the lie still told to this day on any 'history' channel in regards to the dropping of atomic weapons on Japan, that it was to "save a million lives:"

http://www.filmsforaction.org/news/the_real_reason_america_used_nuclear_weapons_against_japan_it_was_not_to_end_the_war_or_save_lives/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27764) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The more things change the more they stay the same? GREED. These days though it is silently ( ? ) promoted as Middle class over the lower class ( can't mention lower class - nope - those are poor people ). Yep this talk sounds like business today ( fortune 5oo or similar ) AND actually it is the wealthy against every one - though they play us off of each-other as best they can. PEOPLE if you have not noticed the "middle" class is shrinking - and NO it is not because more are becoming wealthy - NOPE - it is because so many are becoming ( unmentionable ) lower class - POOR.

http://www.upworthy.com/were-teaching-kids-history-but-were-leaving-this-entire-bit-out-2?g=2&c=ufb1

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

Well, one thing for sure: that would be the smartest, most proficient poor class in the history of the poor.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27764) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Well, one thing for sure: that would be the smartest, most proficient poor class in the history of the poor.

The newly descended? Absolutely no reason for them to be there other than the repercussions of rampant greed.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

I do not dispute that it is rampant greed that got us here. Apparently we changed from worshiping the golden calf to worshiping the bronze bull. I really believe that the economy will crash -- it is resting on air and b.s. anyway -- and people who would otherwise be poor will have to do what they always do -- help each other and work through it.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27764) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Wallstreet is dealing on money that does not exist - might possibly exist over time ( maturation ) if the product had been solid. So yeah - I also believe that we are due for the crash. It may begin when the gov stops printing money to inject into the market.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

It isn't left out entirely. It is usually taught with the first law in Mass. Depending on your location you also have the additional option of taking a course that deals with discrimination/diversity which deals with the fact that racism was intentionally via the same law.

[-] -1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

At what level are these options offered? Most of my programming occurred in the first 10 years of school.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Middle school and high school. I find your "programming" unfortunate. If your parents were more liberal mayhap there would have been more opportunity for learning.

[-] 2 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 1 year ago

Single mother, two kids, Southern Texas, 50's. I learned to read and write and very solid basic math; the conventional wisdom all around me has always been a distorted view. Nothing to do with her liberal or conservative bias; much more to do with the times and finances.

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